Operator ID 00000000 ?/Installationwith a broken touchscreen - MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading

Hey guys.
First let me introduce myself, since this is my very first post . I've been a fan of the BlueAngel for quite a while now, and just yesterday I managed to pick up a broken one for myself. The damage isn't too bad, the touch screen is cracked (not functional at all), and I've already ordered one off ebay. In the meantime, the device is usable, either through Pocket Controller, or just through its built-in keyboard + buttons (ahh, such a pain ! ).
Being the gadget freak that I am, I clearly started looking up OS hacks, and ran into this board. When I found out that the device can run WM5 -> :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
So, after going through some Wikis and doing a few thorough searches, I feel the need to ask the following two questions:
1. My DeviceData.txt reads the following: PH20B 0 B WWE E 00000000 1.40.00 0 0 1.12.00 12.00
Does that mean that with WM2k5_v4_R2.1\WM5_Ivan_upgrade I should use SetOperator.bat 00000000 ?
2. Can I go through the whole intallation/upgrade process without having a fully functional touchscreen ?
Thanks for taking the time to read this.

hmm, sounds corrupted to me, but try it, if it refuses then it didnt work.
I dont think you will get very far without the touchscreen as it wont let you get past the 'align screen' bit

I've gotten past the allign screen, that's no biggie. All you need to do is delete the "Welcome" shortcut from the \Windows\Start Up\ folder . At least that's how it's done in WM2003.
If it refuses then it didn't work.
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I'm not sure what that means, but I'm not looking forward to bricking my unit. If it "won't work", will it just revert back to WM2003 ?

Well I finally did the upgrade as planned (I'm a fiddler ) and I can say it sorta worked. The phone is running much slower than it did in WM2003, but I was somehow expecting that.
Now something very weird is happening: on certain soft resets, the first two numbers on boot out of the three (I believe R and G) aren't there. The screen just says "none". Now on the next soft reset, they're back up, and the phone actually works. How weird is that, huh .

Thats quite normal
Check this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47817&highlight=
And one more thing - when the R NONE appears and you do not soft-reset you'll most propably loose your e-mail accounts settings
See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=48681&highlight=

You're right, it is normal Thanks a bunch, guys.
That's good to know. All I need to do now is solve my damn WiFi issues. I'll look it up, maybe it's the ROM's fault.

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Rom upgrade failing/Screen Problems?

I am a Newbie so be patient with me and your advice is appreciated.
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wiza200) G3
Rom 1.1.7.5
Radio 4.0.13.16
Ext rom 1.1.7.105
I purchased the phone unlocked and have used it with sim's from other countries. When I attempt to run the following updates.
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_WWE-30MB
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2
I get the error "file name is not a valid Pocket PC application".
What am I doing wrong?
(I have also read all the recommended threats which were great. Thanks for sharing)
you obvious did not read all the recommenced sites! My guess is that you tried to run the upgrade file in pocket pc. You must connect your phone to the computer and establish activsync connection first. than you run the upgrade file on your computer
gonzo11 said:
I am a Newbie so be patient with me and your advice is appreciated.
I have a Qtek 9100 (Wiza200) G3
Rom 1.1.7.5
Radio 4.0.13.16
Ext rom 1.1.7.105
I purchased the phone unlocked and have used it with sim's from other countries. When I attempt to run the following updates.
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_WWE-30MB
RUU_Molski.Biz_AKU2.3-226102_22610105_024711_WWE-30MB-CF2
I get the error "file name is not a valid Pocket PC application".
What am I doing wrong?
(I have also read all the recommended threats which were great. Thanks for sharing)
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Navy2010 is correct you are running the updates from your PPC this won't work. You must run the programs from a PC. I also suggest a little more reading.
To get you started have a look at these threads:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=282498
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=284292
Make sure you have CID unlocked the device.
Kirby
Thanks Gents but one more question for u?
The upgrade went perfectly. Thanks
The reason I was trying to upgrade the ROM is not resolved still.
When device is in the Portrait position (slide is closed) my touch screen works maybe 20% of the time. When I open the slide the touch screen works perfectly. The issue still occurs after the upgrade.
Any recommendations?
gonzo11 said:
The upgrade went perfectly. Thanks
The reason I was trying to upgrade the ROM is not resolved still.
When device is in the Portrait position (slide is closed) my touch screen works maybe 20% of the time. When I open the slide the touch screen works perfectly. The issue still occurs after the upgrade.
Any recommendations?
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Sounds like a hardware failure and could be the reason the phone was sold... ?? If you can return it under some warrantee, I'd lean that direction.
--M
I agree.
Yep I agree. I have sent an email to the seller. In all fairness He sold me a brand new device and he has been pretty good so far. Let see what he says now. I'll update the post when he gets back to me. Thanks for you comments.
Seller has sent me an RMA form
I guess he is going to repair it or replace it.
He emailed me an RMA form which I have sent back. Saga continues.
gonzo11 said:
The upgrade went perfectly. Thanks
The reason I was trying to upgrade the ROM is not resolved still.
When device is in the Portrait position (slide is closed) my touch screen works maybe 20% of the time. When I open the slide the touch screen works perfectly. The issue still occurs after the upgrade.
Any recommendations?
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I have had this problem but in reverse it turned out to be muck under the screen and would cause the start button to activate by just pushing the side of the case.
Get a laminated buisness card or something like it and slide it in between the screen and case
You may have something here
Thanks Eddieitman. I tried it and nothing much came out, but usually after a few mins the screen locks up. This time it's still responsive after 15mins. We'll wait and see after an hour if it still works. fingers are cross.
btw nice site.
Still locking up but a little squeeze works. lol
I am talking about the device. lol Unfortunately, it's still locking up. But when I squeeze the sides of screen it comes back. Sounds like my situation maybe a little worse than yours. I going to send it back and see what they do. thks for the help.
Screen issue not covered by warrantee.
This is a Update/FYI.
I sent my phone into Arvato Teleservice out of Germany to fix the screen issue. $97.00 cdn to do so. First off their customer service is absolutely horrendous. So avoid them.
They determined the issue to be a damaged Main Board, but because of the flashed ROM they are not going to do it under warrantee. I should of downgraded before sending it in (my fault). I am still fighting with them.
Cost to fix $490.00repair + $97.00shipping = buy a new phone.
I am not suggesting it is a result of the ROM but wondering has anyone experienced screen issues after flashing the ROM?

Issue with erratic scroll wheel behavior

Hello all,
I'm just now debating on whether or not I need to exchange my new Tilt in for another one, or if this is just normal break-in behavior.
The scroll wheel is very erratic, sometimes when scrolling down it will go up instead and reversing the scrolling motion will cause it to freak out (go down once then scroll up like crazy). Also pressing the scroll wheel in to select/click on something often doesn't work forcing me to try several times to "click" on what I have selected.
The scrolling action is nowhere near as smooth as my Hermes, is anyone else having these issues?
******* separate but related issue *******
If it is indeed a hardware issue, does anyone know of a way to restore the bootloader back to AT&T's ... I flashed HardSPL and think I should probably put it back to stock.
Thanks,
Dave
same problem
i am having the same issue, wondering if i should go back to that nasty blue slut of a rom
FEATURES
SuperCID / Security Level=0
Does not check NBH signatures
Based on 1.50 MFG bootloader, rtask enabled
Accept any password
Model ID check only 4 chars
SPL overwrite DISABLED (to bypass, use SSPL-KAIS.exe)
I guess using the SSPL-KAIS.EXE and then flashing an AT&T om would solve that.
Cheers,
Cactus
reitjam said:
i am having the same issue, wondering if i should go back to that nasty blue slut of a rom
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I was having the same problem with the AT&T ROM, but admittedly was not running it for very long before pof released HardSPL.
That's what makes me think it's hardware related.
le_cactus said:
FEATURES
SuperCID / Security Level=0
Does not check NBH signatures
Based on 1.50 MFG bootloader, rtask enabled
Accept any password
Model ID check only 4 chars
SPL overwrite DISABLED (to bypass, use SSPL-KAIS.exe)
I guess using the SSPL-KAIS.EXE and then flashing an AT&T om would solve that.
Cheers,
Cactus
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Thanks Cactus,
I haven't checked the SSPL thread today, I saw that pof closed it last night because it was bricking a lot of phones. Thought he mentioned that he was going to try to get a working one out soon.
Thanks again for the reply.
sirsycho said:
******* separate but related issue *******
If it is indeed a hardware issue, does anyone know of a way to restore the bootloader back to AT&T's ... I flashed HardSPL and think I should probably put it back to stock.
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SSPL v1 is just fine to flash an SPL or a splash screen, it will not work if you flash a full NBH containing OS becuase the NBH buffer is smaller on 0.92.
thanks pof!
Erratic scroll wheel persists across ROMs
Well I flashed back to AT&T ROM this morning and have been playing with it all day, and the erratic behavior is still there.
Given that only one other person complained here, I think it might be my device. Gonna go see my AT&T guy about an exchange.
Thanks for bearing with me.
sirsycho,
Let me know if you got a new device and it is better, please. I am having issues with having to click the scroll wheel really hard to get it to register at times. On another note, unlike all the other keys on my Tilt keyboard, the 's' key barely goes down when you press it and it doesn't click like all the otthers. This causes me to instinctively hit it multiple timessss so I get a lot of Ss in a row. Anyone else?
I have the same problem. It sometimes works and sometimes it dont.
willieb9000 said:
sirsycho,
Let me know if you got a new device and it is better, please. I am having issues with having to click the scroll wheel really hard to get it to register at times. On another note, unlike all the other keys on my Tilt keyboard, the 's' key barely goes down when you press it and it doesn't click like all the otthers. This causes me to instinctively hit it multiple timessss so I get a lot of Ss in a row. Anyone else?
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My new device is on the FedEx truck for delivery today... I'm going to try it out with the standard AT&T ROM for a bit to get a good baseline and then flash to HTC's... I'll try to post an update tonight.
Thanks.
sirsycho said:
Well I flashed back to AT&T ROM this morning and have been playing with it all day, and the erratic behavior is still there.
Given that only one other person complained here, I think it might be my device. Gonna go see my AT&T guy about an exchange.
Thanks for bearing with me.
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Not you're device. I had this issue prior to unlocking, then with the htc rom and again now with the att rom. To me, it looks either hardware issue, or something lower level is the OS that is common to all current roms. PErhaps the sensitivity of the wheel needs tweaking somehow.
I had issues with my scroll wheel as well. Coming from an 8525 I was like WTF did they do to this wheel? Sometimes the click wasn't registering, but either it's broken in, or I've adjusted my habits because it seems OK now, though not as solid feeling as the 8525 was. I'm sitting here with both the 8525 and Tilt in my hands and the wheel on the 8525 is definitely better.
I'm experiencing the same problem. The wheel feels scratchy when rotated, unlike my Hermes which was smooth. Usually wheels of this type are metal contacts against a circuit board, which use a binary gray code to register direction. I'm thinking its been designed poorly. Perhaps the Hermes unit was $.02 more money.
I wonder if we can replace it with a Hermes unit?
thanks sirsycho.. Update us once you get your new one.
Update with new Tilt and ATT ROM
ok... I'm still running the ATT ROM and still having the scroll wheel issues. Exactly the same things mentioned by others here... scrolling doesn't always register and when pressing in on the wheel I have to do it a couple times before it actually works.
On a side note, it seemed to be getting better on the older device before I switched, but as was mentioned above, that might just be me getting used to the substandard hardware (both of my Hermes work sooo much better).
I'll probably try this out through tomorrow before I flash the HTC ROM... I'll post again if anything improves.
Same scroll wheel problems for me (I have a Tilt). It sounds like maybe it improves as you break it in, so I'll give it a few more days before returning. Grrr....
Same problem here with my first Tilt. I returned the next day because this thread hadn't popped up yet so I thought it was just me and one defective unit. I subsequently got one that (knock on wood) has performed much better. Still notice a few jutters here and there, but the wheel doesn't feel as "scratchy" as mentioned before.
When I had my first Tilt, I noticed it much more when moving the wheel slowly. Here's hoping the problem doesn't start again because so far so good with my new one.
hello i'm using htc Tytn II
rom version : 1.81.707.0 WWE
rom date : 09/05/07
Radio version : 1.27.12.11
Protocol version : 22.45.88.07H
CE OS 5.2.1620 (Build 1825.0.4.2)
and everything works fine up,down and push.....
cheers
Just got a Tilt 3 days ago
Just got a Tilt 3 days ago and Im having the same erratic scroll wheel problem.
I see that this is an old thread, so I'm wondering if any conclusion as to this being a hardware or software problem have been made?
Thanks

TyTN II Keyboard & Softkey Death

Hi all... just curious if anyone has had this problem or has any advice for me:
Today out of nowhere my TyTN II starts acting really funky. When I push the "power" button on the right hand side, it lights up the phone, pulls up the phone application and some letters begin appearing one-at-a-time where the currently dialing number usually shows up (E, D, F, and then C if it makes any difference). It will also light up and do this intermittently when the phone is not being used. The notes recorder app also came up and began recording until I unmapped that application from the 6th button in the settings. In addition, all of the slide out keyboard buttons and the soft-keys themselves (save for the middle button) are completely non-responsive. Using the stylus on-screen works fine. So far a soft reset and a hard reset (always wonderful away from home) hasn't alleviated the issue.
I've contacted HTC support, and they gave me the warranty repair number (of course this crap always happens on a weekend). It sure sounds like a hardware failure to me, but I just thought I'd throw it out to the geeks on here...
I'll buy it for 100 dollars. email me: [email protected]
or you could try doing a master reset on the phone or flashing it with a rom..
hopefully you have hard spl on your phone
huh? huh? and huh?
Oh and if anyone out there who isn't inclined to be a jerk, could you give me some insight into what to expect from HTC service and repair? Do you agree that this is a hardware issue and most likely not a corrupted ROM?
Its not master reset its hard reset. What he is saying is to reset everything and it should work. Look at the Wiki for help. We aren't gonna spoon feed you answers that are searchable, but if they aren't specifically answered in some source then we will help which is 50% of the time.
~~Tito~~
did any of you guys even read his post?
castlecraver said:
So far a soft reset and a hard reset (always wonderful away from home) hasn't alleviated the issue.
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XtreMe_G said:
did any of you guys even read his post?
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I said to do it again then read the wiki if it doesn't work. 2nd time should be the charm.
If not use a different rom .
This happened to my up button I forgot to mention, it was the radio for me that was the problem so try a different radio also.
Did you find the answer?
Hello Mate,
I've got the very same issue, thought it may have been a virus at first, but after loading up a new rom the problem still exists, I'm reckoning the phone is less than useless now
i had this type of problem for quite some amount of time & that too randomly. then i found that a key lock feature in pocketmusic was interfering and causing it. similarly, i feel any other apps that may use/ be used to remap keys may cause this issue.
ofc, since u have done a hard reset, this may not really apply to u. but then which rom & radio are u using anyways?
Hey... just an update. I sent the device back to HTC in Houston with an RMA. Communication with the repair center was fairly poor. I had no idea the phone was on it's way back to me until it showed up at my door today. No information in the box, but I wasn't charged for any repair and everything works as normal at this time. The device went through the "first time" setup when powered on. Still no idea what caused the problem or what exactly they did. R:...12.32, D:1.56.0 (same as before I'm pretty sure).
axeman: Never had pocketmusic on this (AFAIK), but if it was due to some other software re-mapping the keys, wouldn't it sort itself out with a hard reset? I could be wrong. This seems more like a hardware failure to me.
devil's advocate: Try contacting the HTC repair center in your country. They gave me an RMA without any trouble and their turnaround was quick (although I would have appreciated some notification that it was fixed and back on it's way). I got my TyTN II within a few weeks of it coming out, so I'd assume yours is under warranty still as well. I wouldn't chalk it up as worthless quite yet, even (dare I say) still worth more than $100. (Suck my balls, gqstatus0685 )

"W" letter

hey ive been having this problem for the past couple days and was wondering if anyone has experianced the same thing or could shed abit of light on it.
basically whenever writing a text, or word document or typing a web address, etc and i click on the letter "w" nothing comes up and the phone crashes, doesnt let me type anything, goes super super slow and doesnt really respond to nething so i have to reset it. this happens when using the "w" on the on screen keyboard and on the pull out keyboard.
i havnt dropped it recently and its in perfect condition, also havnt installed anything recently that may hav caused it. it just seemed to randomly start happening. will have to try a hard reset if theres no other solution, but any ideas would be greatly appreciated?
I would suggest a hard reset. If it is a software error that should do the trick.
But i guess this has something to do with hardware. I had that problem with my wizard. The commanager button caused the device to crash. Once I opened it I found about 1 kg of dust sitting behind the button. Once that was out of the way the device was normal again.
edit: Just try opening the device as a last resort.
here you can find the service manual. Link removed - no longer valid
thanks mate, may try a hard reset then. but i'll leave it till weekend after exams have finished as its quite time consuming installing everything again, etc.
i perhaps should have mentioned that it only crashes if "w" is the first letter i use. if i type something else an then use it, it seems to work. (altho i havnt tested this properly, i'll assume this is usually the case). just seems like a very strange problem to get
anywayz, thank you for ur advice
nice screen name Is this a stock ROM or a cooked one? maybe the keyboard fix would correct it?
fade2black said:
nice screen name Is this a stock ROM or a cooked one? maybe the keyboard fix would correct it?
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haha thank you.. umm.. its the default one that came with the t-mobile mda vario III. was working fine up until the other day.. whats this keyboard fix u speak of tho?
I have almost the same problem with my "w" key also. I have to press it longer than i do other keys to get it to type a "w" and when i do it causes a slow down on my phone.
sounds like its time for a song..
http://myspacetv.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=1022602
lol.. u can spell out the name of the band without the letter W.. so its good.
flobots - No "W"
anyway.. on topic.. wat rom is A7LAS using?

2 issues with Tilt keypad

I bought an ATT tilt quite a while ago. It is out of warranty now, and wouldn't you know it, something went wrong.
I'm currently using Dutty's Diamond ROM (with the keyboard fix installed), but the same happened before with the official ROM. While I text some keys don't work. I'll be typing away, just to look at the screen and see that I am missing a bunch of letters, rendering the message unreadable. I then have to go back and fill in all the blanks, and even then sometimes it takes several tries to get it to go. The same happens with the backspace key; sometimes it just doesn't work, other times it does (oddly enough, when it doesn't work normally, it usually lets me hit "function" and use it as the delete key).
My other concern is that there is a ton of lag while typing. It takes a while for letters to show up. Is that normal (for the Tilt, at least. I'm still wishing I had bought a BlackBerry)?
Yeah, I had similar troubles. I just upgraded my SPL and hopefully will be testing it further testing.
what SPL are you running?
I'm not entirely sure, it was a while ago that I flashed the ROM. How do I find out what it is? I tried Device Information, but it wasn't there.
you have to put it in Bootloader mode.
hold power and camera button while resetting with the stylus, then you'll come to the tricolor screen which will give you the SPL info.
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
I am having the same exact problem, 1 out of 5 times it works corectly so im thinking it has to be somekind of software, my problem started when I started using ROMeOS's rom's and I have tried different SPL's virsions.
I've heard that the keyboard/membrane may be the problem. Is that likely? If so, is there anywhere to buy them?
crushbup said:
KAIS1*0 MFG
SPL-1.0.OliPof
CPLD-8
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You can use this to update your SPL, I just went from 1.0 to 3.29.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
mech_supernova said:
I am having the same exact problem, 1 out of 5 times it works corectly so im thinking it has to be somekind of software, my problem started when I started using ROMeOS's rom's and I have tried different SPL's virsions.
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What SPL are you currently on? did you reinstall the ROM after updating ur SPL?
crushbup said:
I've heard that the keyboard/membrane may be the problem. Is that likely? If so, is there anywhere to buy them?
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cnn.cn has them for cheap AFAIK!
Thanks!
But they only have the outer keypad (the one right below the screen). Well, I hope this can be fixed with software, because the only place I saw that listed them showed them at $39.99 and they were out of stock.
whistler4ever said:
You can use this to update your SPL, I just went from 1.0 to 3.29.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
What SPL are you currently on? did you reinstall the ROM after updating ur SPL?
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I got the same SPL he has, I did a hard reset afterwards then downgraded back to 1.0 because I saw no improvement.
I thought RomeOS worked best with 3.29.
crushbup said:
Thanks!
But they only have the outer keypad (the one right below the screen). Well, I hope this can be fixed with software, because the only place I saw that listed them showed them at $39.99 and they were out of stock.
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http://www.gsm4world.us/shop/tytn-p4550-keyboard-flex-p-1433.html
found this in another thread!
Success! If the SPL doesn't work and I can't convince AT&T to do it, I'll order one and put it in. How do you install it?
EDIT: I just installed skyfire, and noticed that while I was putting in my email and password it was smooth and nothing was skipped. I'm almost 100% certain this is a problem with WinMo itself
I have been having the same problem as you are describing, but I have noticed that it is with heavy use keys like T, H, E, R, S and for some reason V.
I was getting the feeling that it was a hardware problem rather than a software problem because, especially with the V, I have to apply a bit of pressure to get the button to work.
Unfortunately for me I bought mine off Ebay so the warranty is already void.
Incidentally mine started happening when I had the original network providers (T-Mobile) rom on it. I have since installed an original HTC rom and it hasnt made the slightest bit of difference.
So, how easy is it to open up the back of the Tytn II and replace the keyboard unit then?
Oh my god! Thank you for posting this. I swear I have always felt like posting this but always got too lazy. I thought it was only me that had this problem. It is so annoying typing away, and then having to spend another minute to retype the letters that didn't get inputed the first time. It is so frustrating and I thought it was my fault or something, or ROM, I believe its hardware related, but I am not going to spend another dime on this POS. I'm just not so patiently awaiting t-mobile to release their android device, and I will jump ship and never look back! Thanks for the post again, it has given me piece of mind.....ironically
I'm kind of wanting T-Mobile's Android phone, but seeing as how it's made by HTC, I'll wait for the first couple of user-reviews to come out. I bought the Tilt based on website reviews, but man, I was really misled. They said the camera was great, I can only get blurry unrecognizable images. They made no mention of the fact that when you switch to landscape it takes 3 seconds for all the graphics to appear.
I'm disappointed, and I think my next phone will be a plain vanilla flip phone.
Anywho, I'm updating the SPL now, I'll post if it makes any change.
Okay, I now have HardSPL 3.56 and there does not appear to be much of a change. There was some short lag at the beginning of the text string, but afterwards it caught up. I missed no letters this time. I cannot say how much of this was the placebo effect (i.e. it just felt faster), but perhaps if everyone with the issue tries we can have a reasonable answer.
ETA: I added a poll, so if you try this, fill in the poll!
disable word suggestion under Input setting.
i don't miss any characters with it disabled.
It was already disabled for me. I know I didn't change it, I think the ROM came that way.

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