Hello. First, I have a Cingular 8125 with the 2.17 ROM from this website.
I was playing around with streaming audio over Edge/GPRS through Windows Media Player and noticed when I do this, I cannot receive incoming calls. Is anybody else having this problem?
I did some research and found very few results except from one interesting FAQ post on SlingMedia's website. They produce a device that lets you stream your TV out on the internet. You can watch using clients for many platforms, including WM5. This FAQ states that a WM5 device using an AKU2 ROM (they specifically mentioned a Sprint device) has a feature known as Dedicated Data Transmission Mode enabled, which blocks incoming calls in favor of streaming the data over the internet. I'm assuming this will also affect the 8125 with 2.17 ROM, being AKU2... But I'm just completely GUESSING based on that Sling FAQ.
Keep in mind I'm not using SlingPlayer, I'm using Windows Media Player, but I assume that they stream data the same way or very similar, insofar as that Dedicated Data Transmission Mode stuff is concerned (if that is, indeed, the problem).
ANYWAY. Am I even on the right track? Has anybody else experienced this problem with any HTC Wizard variant? And, even better, anybody have a solution? Streaming my Sirius subscription on the phone is great, but not if it blocks incoming calls.
This is the case for me...streaming BBC1extra through mediaplayer, my phone just goes to VM. I hope this helps!...I have not tried to stream through pocketmusic but I suspect it will fix the problem. I will try and post an update ASAP!
I think this may be a GPRS implementation problem. AFAIK GPRS/EDGE should have the ability to suspend the internet connection when an incoming call is detected. Not all phones have this ability, however.
It's possible the Wizard has this ability, but can't do it while there is active internet traffic (as opposed to, say, a "parked" connection between downloading websites). Try downloading a large file and calling your phone, my theory is it will not accept the call. Then try doing it while browsing the web - if it accepts the call, then it's probably to do with the Radio ROM not being able to accept calls while there is active internet traffic. A future Radio ROM may have this fixed.
I have this problem as well. I have it with my current 2.26 rom, and I also had it with my original Qtek 1.x rom.
This is by far the most anoying thig about this phone. I love listening to streamed radio, but not being to receive calls makes it a lot less practical.
I use slingplayer mobile on my 8125(summiter2.5 rom) and it does not block incoming calls. it will disconnect the stream and patch the phone call through.
There isn't a smartphone or PPC that will do data and voice at the same time. It's possible, but not with these phones. Or any other that I know of, for that matter. I had a smartphone once that would determine which would go through based on which window was topmost, but that was the closest I ever saw to having a choice. With every other phone I've ever owned, it worked one way or the other but not both.
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I use slingplayer mobile on my 8125(summiter2.5 rom) and it does not block incoming calls. it will disconnect the stream and patch the phone call through.
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That's how I wish it worked for me. Can you confirm that streaming radio via MS Mediaplayer does not pause or disconnect? Could this be a MS Mediaplayer bug/feature?
Can slingplayer be used for streams other than your own slingbox?
Thanks,
Bert
Wow. I must be imagining things then Mark because I just got a call 10 minutes ago while streaming a podcast. Maybe has something to do with the 2.47.11 GSM ROM I'm using: RUU_Prodigy_024711_QTEK_WWE_RADIO.exe available in the uploads section of the FTP. BTW, it was during a lower bandwidth podcast on a 4-bar Cingular EDGE connection to thier isp.cingular APN.
Hmm, I wonder if it is Radio ROM related, or maybe ISP related.
I currently have a custom Cingular ROM (ShogunMark) :
ROM 2.26.10.2 WWE 6/7/06
Radio 02.25.11
Protocal version 4.1.13.12
My ISP is the old AT&T (now run by Cingular), so I use different settings than a regular Cingular customer would.
Re-reading the first post, leads me to believe that it is Radio ROM related. Baarod, I will try the same radio version you've got.
Update:
I installed the 2.47.11 radio ROM, but I still cannot receive calls while listening to streaming audio. (Neal Boortz from Atlanta's WSB mms://uni5.cox.streamaudio.com/WSB_AM )
I've actually considered forwarding my calls to my VOIP account, and use SJPhone to get the calls...
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okay -- my gprs connection disappears after a day or so and i have to make another connection -- if i give it the previous name then i am told that the connection already exists. any way around
second problem is that i am using bluetooth headset and i can hear songs on it but no calls -- i can hear only a loud hiss. is it a known issue and is there a way aoound it??
The Bluetooth is a known, and very "annoying"problem to say the least. The trouble is that it is not clear where it comes from. It seems to affect also ppl who have upgraded their firmware...
And in the best end-user support tradition, neither the manufacturer (HTC) nor the distributor (O2 et al) even bother to acknowledge it or say if they intend to fix it.
Are you sure the GPRS actually dissapears? There is a known problem where it will not re-connect,if you put it into flight mode and then back out of flight mode you may find the GPRS wil re-connect. As for the BT issue, have you recently upgraded the rom? The 169 version from O2 had known BT headset issues.
I will answer both the questions -- firstly regarding the upgradation of the radio version -- i have not upgraded the firmware as far the bluetooth is concerned but i did upgrade the radio version. but the fact remains that i can hear the songs being played on the media player. what i am looking for is some tweak or a setting i am missing. i have already tried to uninstall and install the drivers again but i have had no joy.
regarding the gprs a soft reset is helping but yes -- it does disappear. and the fact is though i cannot find the first connection i made, i a told that i cannot make the next connection with the old name. can i know what speeds i would be getting over the gprs connection anyway??
thanks a ton
I recently had the chance to play with the Nokia E61i and the built in VOIP client is brilliant. It allows you to use internal speaker, speaker phone and bluetooth with VOIP calls.
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
Even knowing there are many VOIP applications for Windows Mobile, I tried many with the HTC Titan and only ONE worked ok, but the problem was it only worked trough the speaker phone which was very annoying and not convenient.
I understand voip should be included in WM6.
IE : the integrated phone application can do voip.
Tried it with WM6 and voipbuster on my HTC Wizard and it's working although the sound is not so good sometimes because of the Wizard weak processor (I think).
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I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
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I have already asked that question some time ago - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322377 - and it turned out there is no VoIP support in Kaiser by default. I haven't seen any traces of VoIP in Kaiser I've played with two days ago. And finally, take a look into official Kaiser product sheets - they don't mention VoIP at all, while it's a good feature to shout about.
So basically, there is no VoIP support in Kaiser. However, installing it as an add-on from cab files might have a chance to work, but someone with real Kaiser with hands would need to test it and let us know.
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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Amen !
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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Well, this is great news! I hope I could confirm it as soon as my Kaiser come - I couldn't resist and pre-ordered one in Handtec.co.uk. ))
Installed the .cab as well and works like a charm.
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I have Kaiser now, I've installed VOIP Drivers.cab and MajikVOIP.cab. Installs all components correctly, logs into SIP account, makes a call, but... sound comes out of external speaker, instead of internal earpiece!
Did you manage to make it work properly and if yes - which cabs exactly did you install? Thanks.
im keen to find out also! I thought that you could only access voip using cooked roms.
There are a number of WM5 VoIP endpoints available.... however I'm not entirely sure about WM6 yet. I work in VoIP, and its on my list of things the check now that i have my shiny new TyTN II sat infront of me!
I'll keep you all updated with my findings.
Mind you.. i must check tmobiles policy on VoIP, I had a sneaky feeling they are blocking necessary ports...
managing your voip client?
for those with Voip enabled and working, can you tell me how the voip client determines which connection to use, ie wifi or using the data plan?
I have installed Fring and it works well. Is this different than the other voip programs discussed above?
from what i understand, Fring is a stand alone app, where as the voip i am looking at is fully integrated into the phone and uses the standard dialer, hence my previous question about how the Voip determines which connection to use? And if that is automatic? ie. if wifi is available will it just connect via wifi and if wifi isnt available will it then revert automatically to using the data plan to make the voip call.
Not that this helps with the Kaiser, but according to HP, the new iPaq BM series should have the VoIP client enabled by default; in fact, as far as I'm aware, it's the only device announced with it enabled.
Hi,
I'm new to the PDA and WM phone world, and i have a quick question. If there was a voip program of sorts for a phone like this, would that mean you could just pay for a data plan and not have to pay for a voice plan from a company like AT&T? And then u could still text message, e-mail, internet and the sorts, but also be able to make calls through your program?
Hi
Most providers (certainly here in the UK) flag data used for Messenging and/or VoIP so they are charge at a higher rate or excluded from your inclusive allowance so you pay extra or not blocked completely.
VoIP on a mobile device is only really of benefit when you are in range of a wireless connection.
Regards
Phil
Hey, thanks for the reply. Does anyone know if AT&T restrict data like he said? That's gonna be the main service i will be using, and want to know if they do or not.
Hi.
I can't get the VoIP to work with my Kaiser.
No problem getting it to work with my Hermes.
I have downloaded and installed the file:
"VOIP Drivers"
"MajikVoIP"
and I'm using Schaps VoIP Config tool.
I can get the device to connect to the SIP server, and it will show in the home screen as "selected"
however, whenever I try to make a call, I get the error : "Network Service not available. Try again later" or some other messages about how the connection can't go through
The SIP account is set up to only accept g711 (either ulaw or alaw).
Has anyone experienced that problem as well ?
What did you do to activate VoIP on your Kaiser?
Thank you
Jean-Yves
Bump!
Decided to install VoIP to. But whatever I do I get the same error/message. I tried a WIFI and G3/GRPS connections, I tried VoIP Buster and our Company (Swyx) IPPBX and the alle result in the Network service not available message.
I tried the same accounts on my Wizard and the work flawlessly.
Anybody can shed any light on this matter? As far as all the other other threads go VoIP should work without any problems.
TIA, cheers,
Cacti
Same problem here
I tried many different solutions from different threads. I even managed to get the call another phone using VOIP (VOIPbuster network), but the other phone could not hear me and I could not hear the other....
I used different cab files like MajikVOIP and WM6VoIP, but no configuration works. I even tried different IPDialplans, but no avail...
Hopefully someone could shed light on this issue.
Oh, my ROM is the original UK rom...
actually, different problems.
@jyavenard/le_cactus: does it work over WiFi? If there is a block or proxy then WiFi should work. TMO is known to actively block VoIP on their European network.
@epoot: your issue is something altogether different and not easily answered since in-call audio loss isn't fully understood yet. I suspect its bandwidth/codec related and have done testing which supports this theory, but I have yet to produce a working low-bandwidth codec due to logic troubleshooting difficulties.
Hi Sleuth,
Thanks for your response, strangely enough I looked at my profile and it seems that I am from the US. Well maybe I created this account when I was travelling, but I am living in the Netherlands using the operator Orange with a non-branded HTC Kaiser (bought it without subscription).
I am testing VOIP over Wifi and have tried the different configurations found in the different threads of this forum. Never got it to work though...
So the proxy issue you mention does not affect me, I think? It might be another problem...
In one configuration with certain cabs from one of the forums, I kept getting the searching... status and VOIP did not work. In the other got the message: Network service not available...
In antoher configuration I finally managed to call someone, but no audio from both ends...
I was hoping to find a walkthrough of a successfull VOIP installation on an orginal UK rom...
Cheers,
Edwin
wierd, I could've sworn the OP's info was US/albania not yours epoot... Sorry for the confusion, I've edited my previous post for clarification.
I've installed the TNT VoIP cab available in the cabs thread. After I removed my AT&T hidden proxy along with the two port restriction entries in hklm\comm\rtc\adaptertypes I was able to connect just fine over 3G with both-way audio. My only issue is that sound plays out the back speaker instead of my Tilt's earpiece speaker.
VOIP internal speaker
I've finally gotten VOIP to work using the MajikVOIP.cab and VOIPdrivers.cab. Now all the sounds is coming out of the external speakers. Anyway to re-route this to the internal speakers? Great forum!
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wierd, I could've sworn the OP's info was US/albania not yours epoot... Sorry for the confusion, I've edited my previous post for clarification.
I've installed the TNT VoIP cab available in the cabs thread. After I removed my AT&T hidden proxy along with the two port restriction entries in hklm\comm\rtc\adaptertypes I was able to connect just fine over 3G with both-way audio. My only issue is that sound plays out the back speaker instead of my Tilt's earpiece speaker.
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Hi sleuth. I am using Tmobile from the Netherlands with an unlimited 3G plan. i was wondering if u can tell me where i can find the Tmobile's hidden proxy ( if there is 1) and how to modify/edit the hklm\comm\rtc\adaptertypes in order to use my Tmobile 3G network for VOIP. What i see is that the string value is set to default. Atm i am using ur VOIP cab with VOIPCHEAP, which works fine over WIFI..but getting disconnected if i want to use it over Tmobile's 3G.
thank you in advance.
Tommy
try using www.fring.com, it's very easy to setup and works ok.
I've tested fring too.
Did the sound in your case come out of the loudspeaker or on the earphone?
the sound is coming from earphone.
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the sound is coming from earphone.
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are u sure? my old fring version gives sound from the speakerphones and yesterday i downloaded the newest fring version for my tytnII, which gave the same result..sound from the rear speakers. could u try to set ur volume on max and then listen again..cuz when u set at low volume it could also sound like it comes from the earphone. I've used skype, fring and sleuth kaiserVOIP.cab ..all with the same result.
AGEphone Mobile 2.5 Speakerphone Edition supports the internal speaker on the Kaiser and a range of other HTC devices (with more to come)!
Ever since upgrading to WM 6.1, I've had a number of issues with my Tilt. I can't receive MMS, I can't play Xvid videos (with TCPMP or TCMP), and my GPS signal takes longer to lock. This is a whole lot to give up for just threaded SMS (I haven't really seen anything else that's improved).
Is there any where I can get WM 6.0 reset, or a at least a lead on how to fix these issues (att mms settings cab didn't work, changing the default proxy settings didn't work for mms either).
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Ever since upgrading to WM 6.1, I've had a number of issues with my Tilt. I can't receive MMS, I can't play Xvid videos (with TCPMP or TCMP), and my GPS signal takes longer to lock. This is a whole lot to give up for just threaded SMS (I haven't really seen anything else that's improved).
Is there any where I can get WM 6.0 reset, or a at least a lead on how to fix these issues (att mms settings cab didn't work, changing the default proxy settings didn't work for mms either).
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If you do a google search for ATT MMs settings, one of the sites is directly from ATT Support and resolved my issue. It sounds like your rom came with a new radio, try flashing 1.65.24.36 as your radio. made a hell of a difference all around for my phone, especially for my GPS
Yes one of the things AT&T recently changed is you not longer need the [email protected] username and CINGULAR1 password for their MMS. Also if it is set to proxy through wap.cingular turn that off as well and make sure you turn on IP Header compression
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If you do a google search for ATT MMs settings, one of the sites is directly from ATT Support and resolved my issue.
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I've actually spent hours on the phone with ATT support and we still haven't been able to resolve the issue. Something about when I turn the phone off, the settings end up going back to default (with the username and password to log for MMS.
It sounds like your rom came with a new radio, try flashing 1.65.24.36 as your radio. made a hell of a difference all around for my phone, especially for my GPS
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I'm an extreme newbie. Where would I get the radio? How would I flash it? Just like the Roms?
Also, any idea on what's going on with the ability to play divx movies? TCPMP and TCMP have the same issue. They display the first few frames and then it freezes. The sound plays just fine, though.
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I've actually spent hours on the phone with ATT support and we still haven't been able to resolve the issue. Something about when I turn the phone off, the settings end up going back to default (with the username and password to log for MMS.
I'm an extreme newbie. Where would I get the radio? How would I flash it? Just like the Roms?
Also, any idea on what's going on with the ability to play divx movies? TCPMP and TCMP have the same issue. They display the first few frames and then it freezes. The sound plays just fine, though.
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If the settings keep resetting then I would suggest flshing a your rom again or try a new rom. Go to the Kaiser Rom Development forum under kaiser and you will find all the wiki's your little heart could desire including radios, flashing, and all the good stuff that comes with modifying your phone. I would try coreplayer to play your movies, I find TCMP as primitive and unreliable.
Hi,
I try to use skype under WIFI/UMTS/HSDPA, but I hear one word on three/four...I thought it was a Windows Mobile Software block but it is not (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=474370), I thought it was a carrier lock, but it is not. I tried a Toshiba g900 (wich is slower than Kaiser) with the same carrier and Skype works very very well, have you ever tried Skype with the Kaiser? I have the lastest Hyper Dragon ROM but it is not a ROM issue because it did not work even with its original rom and radio rom, this thing is driving me crazy! I made tests just after an hard reset and with wifi, so it is not a network issue but a device problem, how can I check if everything is ok? Maybe a benchmark to test CPU? Or what else?
I've never been able to run Skype smoothly on the Kaiser regardless of ROM. It's just too slow.
Not happening here. Running Skype 2.5 on WM 6.0 original ROM or WM 6.1 3.02 and it works fine. Just did a test call while connected to WiFi and the voice quality is great.
What's the difference between us? Different Kaiser Model? Wrong radio version? Wrong what? Why me and kilrah cannot use skype smoothly and vcespon can? Someone tells that his KAiser is fast in opening apps etc. but mine it is not fast even to open the start menu...I want to go deeper in this, what can I do to know if our Kaiser has some problems?
Mine is pretty fast doing everything, just skype will always skip very badly, regardless of version. It'll miss sound bits here and there, sometimes even blank completely for several seconds. That is, totally unusable except just for text chat.
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Not happening here. Running Skype 2.5 on WM 6.0 original ROM or WM 6.1 3.02 and it works fine. Just did a test call while connected to WiFi and the voice quality is great.
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Could you say more? We must solve it
ROM and radio firmware version can make a lot of difference. WiFi performance / RAM available. After trying dozens of ROMs for months, I only use the original WM 6.0 with 1.27.15.32 radio, or the official 3.02 with 1.58.26.20.
WiFi connection works OK for me even in "best battery" setting. I've been streaming music from shoutcast.com for half an hour without problems.
Skype 2.5 does not seem to have any problem with a test call, I have not tested it on long conversations, thoug.
Hmm actually I forgot about that setting, with WiFi on "Best Performance" a test call works fine. I was usually on "Best Battery".
Just need not to be doing other things on the phone at the same time. Can forget about using BT headset as well.