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Has anyone CID ulocked and had it not void the warranty

Ive been looking for a while and no one is actually sure about voiding the warranty. Has anyone done it and sent it in? Can some one explain about cid unlocking a little. Reading the other posts just gets me (and im sure others) confused

jawnsixteen said:
Ive been looking for a while and no one is actually sure about voiding the warranty. Has anyone done it and sent it in?
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Let me make it simple... CID Unlock voids your warranty. period. The question comes in that when you try to do warranty work is whether they will notice or not. I've heard some say they don't, and others have said they do. So in a nutshell, just understand that you ARE VOIDING your warranty. You may or may not be "caught" though if you try to get warranty work, but you made the decision to do something that voids it, so you have to live with that choice.
Can some one explain about cid unlocking a little. Reading the other posts just gets me (and im sure others) confused
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If you can't read and understand this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
then you have no business doing this procedure. Dr. P has written an excellent post that takes you through the process step by step. Very simple and even tells you what to look for as you do it. There is no point trying to explain it further as it would be the exact same post as Dr. P's since it lays it out step by step in full detail.

ok, thank you.
now just one last question, i have upgraded to the newest tmobile rom, and i read somewhere that by doing that it unlocks somthing, did i read wrong?

jawnsixteen said:
now just one last question, i have upgraded to the newest tmobile rom, and i read somewhere that by doing that it unlocks somthing, did i read wrong?
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I'm not aware of installing the newest (2.26?) TMobile ROM unlocking anything. You need to do the CID Unlock procedure and then finish by installing a rom like the TMobile 2.26 official rom. But jsut installing this rom doesn't unlock anything, just gets you to a current stable base to work off of for doing custom roms (very important step that too many people seem to be skipping).

how to do???

i had a question is there any way to do a superCID withou paying or do i have to pay for it thanks?

luis_valerio said:
i had a question is there any way to do a superCID withou paying or do i have to pay for it thanks?
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You must pay and you can have it for free... (check the Wiki)

luis_valerio said:
i had a question is there any way to do a superCID withou paying or do i have to pay for it thanks?
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If you have a G3 you can do it yourself for free, read the stickies to find out how.
If you have a G4 you will have to pay for Super CID. There is currently no known way to unlock a G4 without paying for it. You can however use the shelltool to bypass the CID check when flashing. This has mixed results from those that use it so I would suggest talking to those that have actually used this to see their results, or suggestions.
If you don't know which you have read some more before you attempt to flash anything. Doing G3 steps on a G4 device could very well brick your device beyond recovery.

i have done that the thing is that i believe i did unlock it but i can flash to like a hardspl like others do i only can for like wizard Wm6 what can i do

luis_valerio said:
i have done that the thing is that i believe i did unlock it but i can flash to like a hardspl like others do i only can for like wizard Wm6 what can i do
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You guys must help us help you and that includes writing in real ENGLISH (punctuated) and be clear about your issues and desires...

HTC TYTN II (not Tilt) Questions

Hello, I am going to buy an HTC TYTN II Unlocked phone. I am now using an ATT 8525 on which I installed the HTC TYTN rom with WM6. I unlocked the 8525 using the Hard/SPL and SIM/CID unlock. My question is, since the TYTN II I am buying will be unlocked, do I still need to do the HARD/SPL and SIM/CID unlock to make the phone work on multiple carriers? I don't think I will be playing around with any different roms on the TYTN II since I heard it is a good rom, so my main question is about the SIM issue.
Thanks, sorry if this is a stupid question.

nope. its an unlocked phone by default if you buy it htc branded, so you don't need to do anything to sim unlock it, it'll just work - just make sure you let it set everying up properly when you turn it on for the first time

If you are buying an "unlocked" phone, it is SIM unlocked. That's what makes it possible to use it on any GSM carrier.
You only need to flash HardSPL (CID unlock the phone) if you plan to flash ROMs. That being said - the HTC ROM is decent, but not up to par with what the pros are cooking up here. I was hesitant to flash, so I used it for the first week. When I started flashing, I never looked back. They take the best from the stock ROMs and improve upon it (particularly in the speed and performance arena). FWIW.

Hey thanks for the clarification. I guess I should consider using a cooked ROM like I did for my 8525, what a difference it made to use the TYTN rom. I know there is a link for the HardSPL, so all I need to do is flash that to the TYTN II and I can use any rom I find, right? What about the issues with the drivers for the TYTN II, do any new roms address those issues? If I flash HardSPL am I then forced to immediately flash a new rom?
Is this the link for the HardSPL for the TYTN II?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679

I don't need to run the SIM unlocker obviously, right? Just HardSPL?

What about SuperCID and Security Unlocker?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361236
Do I need to bother with this?

Hey there. What if I do the SIM/CID unlock on the TYTN II already unlocked phone? I remember that I had to do that on my 8525 before I could do the HardSPL. In other words, should I do the SIM/CID unlock and then do the HardSPL??
Thanks!

SIM unlock and CID unlock are two different things. If you are buying an "unlocked" phone, it will be SIM unlocked and you don't need to run anything. I wouldn't run anything SIM related (like the SIM unlocker that was released), just so you don't cause an issue. HardSPL (which will CID unlock your phone) will not force you to immediately flash a new ROM...just gives you the option to. Does not affect the current ROM you have on it. So there is no confusion - you should be looking here for info on HardSPL. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679 If you have any issues with the HardSPL, there are several stickies and many topics related to problems.
I have not used SuperCID or Security Unlocker. As such, there is no need to in order to take advantage of custom ROMs.
Again...don't mess around with the SIM unlocker if you are buying an "unlocked" phone. You do HAVE to run HardSPL before you try to flash a ROM or radio or anything. However, once you flash HardSPL you do not HAVE to immediately flash a ROM or radio.
I highly encourage you to read the wiki and the stickies more than once before you start messing around with this stuff or if you are even slightly confused. The standard ROM isn't so bad that you have to run out and flash the first day if you are not comfortable doing so. Good luck.

I'm getting a locked ATT which I'll be CID unlocking as well as SIM unlocking. What then would be the best ROM to run for the best overall functionality etc etc
Thanks
JG

Hey thanks for the help. I am fairly conifdent about flashing roms. I did it with no problem on the 8525 and it has worked well so far. I guess I will wait and play with the standard rom on the TYTN II and then decide about changing, but I will definitely flash HardSPL as soon as I get it.
Thanks again!!

jgdorado said:
I'm getting a locked ATT which I'll be CID unlocking as well as SIM unlocking. What then would be the best ROM to run for the best overall functionality etc etc
Thanks
JG
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They don't like anyone to ask about which rom to use because ther are so many, you just have to decide and play around with them on your own.

jgdorado said:
....What then would be the best ROM to run for the best overall functionality ....
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What is the best religion?
Which is the best football team?
OK the last one doesnt really apply as everyone knows it is Man United but you get the idea. Everyone has their own needs, preferences etc.
Best advice is to read the relevent ROM threads and choose one that sounds most appropriate for your needs. FWIW though Duttys ROMs do seem very popular.

Am I right in thinking...

Hi all, sorry for being such a newbie, but...
I want to buy a Diamond locked to the Orange network, UK. Am I right in thinking the following...
1) The only way to get this phone unlocked is to pay for software (As mentioned elsewhere on this forum).
2) Once unlocking software is purchased, it comes with other software which de-brands the phone and replaces the Orange firmware with the HTC original (or at least, a cooked version thereof).
Thanks for all help received !!!
P.S. I did try searching for these answers myself on the forum, but kinda lost the will to live whilst reading page 6 of a 16-page thread, in which people appeared to contradict one another - So I thought I would just ask the experts and get a simple yes / no !

1) Not strictly the only way, but the simplest and cheapest.
2) No, you can leave as is, or you can just put whatever you like in it, and that's whether or not it's locked to Orange...
I'm still locked to Orange (no intention of changing given the great deal I got), and I've already flashed to the latest HTC original 1.93.405.1, I've tried a variety of radios, and am currently back to 1.00.25.05, (the phone originally came from Orange with a 1.00.25.03 Radio).

1. why get a phone from orange and then want to unlock it.why not use it on orange.
2.you can use any rom on here with it locked to orange.i use swiftbl 6.0 and
mines still locked to orange.just follow instuctions on how to flash rom on here.it is easy dont worry about it.

964rs777 said:
1. why get a phone from orange and then want to unlock it.why not use it on orange.
2.you can use any rom on here with it locked to orange.i use swiftbl 6.0 and
mines still locked to orange.just follow instuctions on how to flash rom on here.it is easy dont worry about it.
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1. Because, obviously, his intention is so.

Hi,
Thanks for all the help.
I didn't make myself very clear above. What I was trying to say was that I am going to buy a phone which is (briefly) used, but comes with a 1-year guarantee. At present the phone is locked to Orange and I wanted to unlock it and rebrand it because...
1) Orange are alot dearer unless you tie yourself into a (min)12 month contract
[Something which I def. dont want to do !]
AND
2) Orange usually (or at least used to) personalize a phones firmware with their own menu system/ icons etc. Which again, I don't want, because the phones original/generic firmware is usually better IMHO.
I was hoping that the unlocking & de-branding may simply have been a case of flashing the phone using existing software - but oh well !!!
Actually, just a thought - the Orange phones do come locked don't they ?

Orange phones are locked, yes. But with the Diamond, it's unbranded so no real need to flash the ROM unless you want to improve upon it's working speed
Flashing the ROM is pretty easy and all the software is free and available on this site in the ROMs section.
Unlocking the phone means paying for an unlock code which isn't usually that expensive.

keep in mind that this will void your warranty too

But with the Diamond, it's unbranded
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Excellent that makes a nice change !
keep in mind that this will void your warranty too
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Is there no way of backing up the original rom before overwriting it ?
Thanks

Question Just bought this - Question regarding unlocking & root

I just bought this phone. It's actually quite nice and better than I expected. Paid 475€ for it brand new in a store here in Italy. I'm coming from the good old XZ1 Compact, aka the best phone ever made. This seems to be a big (too big, tfw no phone under 5.5) improvement over it.
That being said, I was wondering how does Asus react to their phones being unlocked. I come from Sony which does not like unlocking, in fact on the XZ1 and XZ2, unlocking was permanent and you lost drm keys and stock features fOrEveR. How is it on this one? Does it void the warranty forever? Do you lose stock features after unlocking? Can you relock the bootloader and go back to full stock eventually?
I googled and searched all over but I find conflicting and contraddicting informations about this, on top of the usual ****ty websites with ai generated copypaste guides.
Thanks in advance.

MarkMRL said:
I just bought this phone. It's actually quite nice and better than I expected. Paid 475€ for it brand new in a store here in Italy. I'm coming from the good old XZ1 Compact, aka the best phone ever made. This seems to be a big (too big, tfw no phone under 5.5) improvement over it.
That being said, I was wondering how does Asus react to their phones being unlocked. I come from Sony which does not like unlocking, in fact on the XZ1 and XZ2, unlocking was permanent and you lost drm keys and stock features fOrEveR. How is it on this one? Does it void the warranty forever? Do you lose stock features after unlocking? Can you relock the bootloader and go back to full stock eventually?
I googled and searched all over but I find conflicting and contraddicting informations about this, on top of the usual ****ty websites with ai generated copypaste guides.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi
see the readme from the ASUS Unlock tool from here https://www.asus.com/de/Mobile/Phones/ZenFone/Zenfone-8/HelpDesk_Download/
Unlock Device App
NOTICE:
Before you download, install, and use the Unlock Device App (“Service”), you understand that you need to take all risks in terms of quality and performance of the Service, including but not limited to: once you trigger the Service, you’re not able to recover your ASUS products to the original status at the time of manufacturing (“Original Product”) anymore. Original Products which is used with the Service (“Changed Product”) will no longer be regarded as the Original Products. The software updates will not be available to the Changed Product, and the digital content in the Changed Product may no longer be used. In addition, the software and hardware problems of your ASUS product caused by using the Service may not apply to your ASUS Warranty Information, please read ASUS Warranty Information of your ASUS product carefully on ASUS official website.(https://bacchus.asus.com/support/Article/1060/)
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>> Does it void the warranty forever?
I think so
>>Do you lose stock features after unlocking?
I did not find anything that did not work anymore after unlocking (but I tested only the functionality that is important for me ....)
>>Can you relock the bootloader and go back to full stock eventually?
I don't know if you can relock the phone but I doubt it.
You can reinstall the Original ASUS Firmware and it still works like before. You can also install the updates for the original OS manually (I did not test if OTA still works)
regards
Bernd

MarkMRL said:
I just bought this phone. It's actually quite nice and better than I expected. Paid 475€ for it brand new in a store here in Italy. I'm coming from the good old XZ1 Compact, aka the best phone ever made. This seems to be a big (too big, tfw no phone under 5.5) improvement over it.
That being said, I was wondering how does Asus react to their phones being unlocked. I come from Sony which does not like unlocking, in fact on the XZ1 and XZ2, unlocking was permanent and you lost drm keys and stock features fOrEveR. How is it on this one? Does it void the warranty forever? Do you lose stock features after unlocking? Can you relock the bootloader and go back to full stock eventually?
I googled and searched all over but I find conflicting and contraddicting informations about this, on top of the usual ****ty websites with ai generated copypaste guides.
Thanks in advance.
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To add to bnsmb's response,
When the phone is unlocked, some apps will not work, like google pay for example, but the bootloader can be relocked with one fastboot command and you will get all features back (except OTA updates from the settings, you will have to update manually)
(It is not recommended to relock the bootloader when not on the Stock Asus ROM)
To relock, simply type these two commands
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot oem asus-csc_lk
reboot
The phone will prompt you to do a factory reset when booting

Adaoh said:
To add to bnsmb's response,
When the phone is unlocked, some apps will not work, like google pay for example, but the bootloader can be relocked with one fastboot command and you will get all features back (except OTA updates from the settings, you will have to update manually)
(It is not recommended to relock the bootloader when not on the Stock Asus ROM)
To relock, simply type these two commands
adb reboot bootloader
fastboot oem asus-csc_lk
reboot
The phone will prompt you to do a factory reset when booting
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Hi
>>To relock, simply type these two commands
Good to know that but before I test it:
The phone can be unlocked again after the relock?
regards
Bernd

bnsmb said:
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>>To relock, simply type these two commands
Good to know that but before I test it:
The phone can be unlocked again after the relock?
regards
Bernd
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Yes, I have tried it once, but some people reported it does not work depending on the version, I tried on Android 12 and it worked the first time (and on android 11 but that was the first unlock a while ago)

Thank you for the info! I can't find the official manual or faq though, even from the link bnsmb provided :\
That's why I asked here in the first place. From what I can tell after looking through this info, they will know you have unlocked from the imei, considering their unlock tool talks to the mothership before doing the deed. It is still unclear if they will respect the warranty period even after unlocking. I don't care about asking them for support on an unlocked phone, I just want to make sure it will get repaired or replaced for free (in terms of money and hassle) if I get a defect down the line that is unrelated to the unlock, such as a hardwre failure or assembly defect.
Anyway, it seems the only way to shed light on this mystery is to ask Asus themselves. I will report back as soon as they respond to my questions.

Warranty with unlocked bootloader
The warning text of the unlock app links you to the Warranty Policy for ASUS Phones, where the relevant part reads:
6. Exclusions from this limited Warranty Service
[...]
(m) Unusability or damage to hardware of the product caused by installing and using any kind of the Unlock Device App, which is a utility that will unlock your product’s boot loader but will render the warranty null and void.
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So yes as is usual, they will try to use "you having unlocked your bootloader" as an excuse to not repair their broken phones under warranty.
But, depending on your local consumer protection laws, there is a good chance this is actually illegal. In the EU for example, during the 2 years of required warranty THEY have to prove YOU that the defect was ACTUALLY CAUSED by you messing with the phone's software - which generally speaking they can't because it wasn't.
If you haven't seen it i recommend this thread for some details of people who have actually been in that situation - from what i saw after a quick glance through, 3 out of 3 people there got their unlocked&rooted phones replaced under warranty in the end, even it it took some effort to convince the support...

sirozan said:
If you haven't seen it i recommend this thread for some details of people who have actually been in that situation - from what i saw after a quick glance through, 3 out of 3 people there got their unlocked&rooted phones replaced under warranty in the end, even it it took some effort to convince the support...
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The linked thread does tell that one person was successful with the ASUS support, "all other" unfortunately not, see e.g. post #6.

.Michael. said:
The linked thread does tell that one person was successful with the ASUS support, "all other" unfortunately not, see e.g. post #6.
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Reading posts #31 and #38 i am pretty sure the person from post #6 did not have to play in the end as well. I also can't see anyone else in there who reported they tried to get unlocked phone replaced and didn't

Ups my fault, I have not seen the posts after #20 ... So it seems the warranty (given by law) is not void but the guarantee is (given by the company).

Anyway, in the meantime, Asus replied to me saying that if you unlock you lose your entire warranty no matter what. I reiterated, asking if I will also lose my right to a free repair for issues totally unrelated to the unlock, and they said yes, you will lose every right to repair.
So that is the official stance!
Too bad, I'm still in the return period so I might just get rid of it and hunt for a Pixel 5. Kind of sad though, the phone performed pretty well for me so far. But I need muh root and eventually LineageOS...