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hi there,
Im currently a wizard user and i love it, only 2 drawbacks are Lack of GPS and a slow processor. Ive been reading up alot on the tilt lately and heres what i found...
1 - the video/graphics problem still exists
2 - Red Light of death is a COMMON problem
ill be buying this phone from ebay, and unlocking it for T-mobile (USA) since i wont be under AT&ts warranty, i have no way of knowing the RLOD will ever hit me.... so i cant exchange a dead kaiser/tilt
So i ask you tilt users to advise me...... thanks in advance
Will the data work on T-Mobile's 3G when they launch it this summer?
Is there any way to use the front facing camera (video call or some sort of messenger, whatever) on T-Mobile?
What about the push to talk- will that work on T-Mobile?
T-Mobile is so much cheaper than AT&T, and I really want a Kaiser, preferably an unbranded one with front facing camera...
funkadesi said:
hi there, Im currently a wizard user and i love it
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Not a tilt user, mine is an o2 (UK) branded Kaiser. I was a HTC Universal user and loved that. What prompted me to upgrade (apart from the fact the upgrade was free!) was the intergrated GPS and larger memory. I'm very pleased with my little Kaiser in comparison to the size of the Uni and love having everything onboard.
But the million dollar question really is what do you use your Wizard for?
For me, it's a bit of Internet use (love Opera Mobile) over WiFi, ebook reading, PIM, MP3 player, email, skype over Wifi, gaming (but nothing much more intensive than solitaire). I use TomTom don't seem to suffer from the jerky graphics as much as others, and having the GPS onboard is priceless, cos I know that the 1 day I would really need it, I'd have left the external GPS at home with the Uni! I have watched some videos, but I've re-encoded them to a lower bitrate, yes the Kaiser does have issues with high bitrate video's. However on balance, the higher internal memory and integrated GPS means my Kaiser does everything my Universal did, only I don't have to worry about where I'm installing applications, or leaving things at home.
So whilst I am very happy with my purchase, I have noticed my device performs better than some at the tasks I use it for. So it's back to you to tell us what you want yours for!
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Will the data work on T-Mobile's 3G when they launch it this summer?
Is there any way to use the front facing camera (video call or some sort of messenger, whatever) on T-Mobile?
What about the push to talk- will that work on T-Mobile?
T-Mobile is so much cheaper than AT&T, and I really want a Kaiser, preferably an unbranded one with front facing camera...
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Have they even confirmed with the rolling out of their "3g"?
well I use my phone for Im/Texting alot and GPS is another major application for me, I drive alot so its quite important for me, ofcourse at the end of the day im gonna use to make calls.
only thing im stuck on is wether i need the qwety keyboard or not
GPS is worth it
I use iGo 2006 and like it a lot. For me, the GPS is why the phone is worth it.
My complaints are that: the speakerphone is not good; the camera could be better and is useless in low light; no insurance offered by at&t; battery life, but I am used to it by now... needs a charge every few days or so depending on what you use (GPS will kill it quickly); the graphics problem is annoying, maybe programs like navigon would work smoothly but the phone is still worth it, I never use my video ipod to watch media because I don't like the small screen.
With WM6, I use SBSH software pocketbreeze for functionality and wisbar advance for looks. Most people care about the speed, but I'm happy with it. Oh yeah, Q-Mobile 1.2 has made the phone much more stable.
One last thing, I got mine for $75 after rebates but I would not have gone over $300. That's me though, some people have money and want a tech gadget that they can customize to their liking.
I upgraded to the Tilt from the 8125 a month ago and have been very pleased with my purchase. Obviously there will be risks of the thing bricking down the road, but you shouldn't let that scare you away from a purchase. If anything, that should be incentive for you to buy the HTC branded version of the phone and not the Tilt.
Just my opinion, but I would stay away from ebay too. The thought of buying fairly expensive electronics sight-unseen from an anonymous seller has always seemed kinda sketchy to me.
Love my tilt. The gps, 3G and faster processor was why i upgraded. I mostly use iGO , Flexmail, MSN, and Google Maps when I'm out. Sold my Wizard 8125 and picked up the tilt.... I have to say that i am very happy so far.
I've had the best phones of every carried in the MidEast area. Touch, Dash, BB Curve, MotoQ9h, and now the Kaiser. Its the best phone with the most available features. The ability to customize the phone in an endless number of ways makes this phones worth a lot more than it is. Even though the video displays aren't the best and worse than predecessors, its still a killer phone. Plus, you cant find a better community, in terms of developers and activity, than XDA. I say this because I was on a lot of there forums and I can say that the amount of intelligence here is amazing.
Get the kaiser and return it if your dont like it.
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Have they even confirmed with the rolling out of their "3g"?
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This is pretty much all I know about it:
http://www.phonenews.com/mwc-t-mobi...aunch-in-summer-possible-android-device-2739/
So sometime this summer.
i really like this phone but im not sure, after what i've read, if it really worth. i also got my eyes on the vox and on n95..can u help me a lil on this choice? the s730 seems to be over the n95 at some aspects but that graphics software that lacks brings me a some doubts..thank you
George
zadude said:
i really like this phone but im not sure, after what i've read, if it really worth. i also got my eyes on the vox and on n95..can u help me a lil on this choice? the s730 seems to be over the n95 at some aspects but that graphics software that lacks brings me a some doubts..thank you
George
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IMO considering any Nokia is insane. But what is most important - what do you want to use this phone for?
well almost everything one of those phones could offer me..listening to music on my way to work, browsing the web by wlan especially, watching some movies, use the calendar to be sure i dont loose any meetings, send tons of email and sms, all of those packed in a compact and user friendly device..s730 seems perfect except those bugs...
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well almost everything one of those phones could offer me..listening to music on my way to work, browsing the web by wlan especially, watching some movies, use the calendar to be sure i dont loose any meetings, send tons of email and sms, all of those packed in a compact and user friendly device..s730 seems perfect except those bugs...
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I love the s730... however, I wish I waited for the version that will be released with North American 3G support (well... i use TMobile, which doesn't have a 3G network in NA anyway, also nobodies sure which RF chipset is included in the WING220 anyway, so it may support 850/1900 HSDPA after all).
The video driver appears to be being worked on by HTC, although jockyw states it is in a different way than perfect.
Overall, I'm very happy with my S730, but if you're in North America, I'd wait for the model with support for the North American 3G frequencies. Otherwise, I strongly recommend the device. The WLAN support is fine. Video play back is fine, I use GSPlayer and Windows Media Player. Does your work use ActiveSync for mobile devices (do they support Windows Mobile devices)? If so, this will work fine. The only inescapable problem I have is that the Microsoft Bluetooth Drivers don't support **** for profiles (nothing to do with the phone though).
If you use Last.FM, you may want to check out the little PHP app I "created." Link in my signature \/. If you don't use it, you may want to start, it's awesome.
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I love the s730... however, I wish I waited for the version that will be released with North American 3G support (well... i use TMobile, which doesn't have a 3G network in NA anyway, also nobodies sure which RF chipset is included in the WING220 anyway, so it may support 850/1900 HSDPA after all).
The video driver appears to be being worked on by HTC, although jockyw states it is in a different way than perfect.
Overall, I'm very happy with my S730, but if you're in North America, I'd wait for the model with support for the North American 3G frequencies. Otherwise, I strongly recommend the device. The WLAN support is fine. Video play back is fine, I use GSPlayer and Windows Media Player. Does your work use ActiveSync for mobile devices (do they support Windows Mobile devices)? If so, this will work fine. The only inescapable problem I have is that the Microsoft Bluetooth Drivers don't support **** for profiles (nothing to do with the phone though).
If you use Last.FM, you may want to check out the little PHP app I "created." Link in my signature \/. If you don't use it, you may want to start, it's awesome.
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I must agree with bigflavor, except:
- I don't know anything about problems with 3G here in Europe. Everything works fine (doesn't mean there aren't any in the US)
- Video playback depends on format (and codec) of the file you want to play. Some of them are OK, some sucks. E.g. MP4 which is the output of built-in camera looks like a terrible slideshow.
- Generally I would say if you prefer to work, go and get it. If you prefer gaming & multimedia, don't
zadude said:
i really like this phone but im not sure, after what i've read, if it really worth. i also got my eyes on the vox and on n95..can u help me a lil on this choice? the s730 seems to be over the n95 at some aspects but that graphics software that lacks brings me a some doubts..thank you
George
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I have an s730 and n95-2. Both devices are great in their diff ways. If I had to chose between the two I would pick n95-2. It is quicker, more responsive, and for wifi it can't be beat. I do like my s730 tho. However it sometimes freezes, needs reboots and is slower in running thru the menus and also slower with wifi, not sure why. I have the option of using either one and go between both. I realize this being a winmo forum that nokia gets knocked a bit, but the n95 line is really very good IMHO and should be compared.
It is definitely worth buying. It is a very, very good smartphone. Yeah, there are problems, but an update is coming which should fix them. I have noticed one major problem only and three minor problems + few MICRO problems. The major problem - ram consumption. It is not THAT bad, OF COURSE, it even doesn't annoy. The only thing is that you see that there are 3 megabytes free from time to time. And sometimes an app won't launch so u have to open task manager and kill some apps. Minor problems - multipress timeout setting has no effect (i set it to 0.5s but it still timeouts in 1 sec). Second problem - included RSS hub app (which is super-cool!!) has a bug which doesn't let you set the refresh setting lower than 1h. Oh, and GPRS/EDGE/UMTS/HSPDA won't disconnect by itself even though idle disconnect timer is set to 30s! So u have to kill GSM data with comm manager . No video issues or whatsoever. Well, watching videos with WMP is LAGGY, but not with Core Player! Current video subsystem is not worse than that of Tornado, Vox etc. As HTC said, it need software optimisation so it would render the same way tornados, voxes did. ATI chip was not mentioned in specs. HTC would have to pay huge amounts of money to ATI for licensing just to enable it. Mentioning Qualcomm chipset doesn't mean that all the possible features, which all are licensed, will be available. Its like with windows versions: there are more expensive ones with more stuff enabled.
BTW, does anybody know if that update will include WM 6.1 which would be AWESOME?
zadude said:
i really like this phone but im not sure, after what i've read, if it really worth. i also got my eyes on the vox and on n95..can u help me a lil on this choice? the s730 seems to be over the n95 at some aspects but that graphics software that lacks brings me a some doubts..thank you
George
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Actually NO, it doesn’t! I allready did this stupid choice and now I'm crying for RAM and decent video.
And BTW, If you’ll compare it with iPhone which is in the same price segment, you’ll understand why I’m so disappointed.For this amount of money I’m tired to stay on internet, hoping for a solution. Go and spend 400USD for an iPhone which is now absolutely breakable for any GSM carrier and stay away from cares and interminable board discutions.
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And BTW, If you’ll compare it with iPhone which is in the same price segment, you’ll understand why I’m so disappointed.For this amount of money I’m tired to stay on internet, hoping for a solution. Go and spend 400USD for an iPhone which is now absolutely breakable for any GSM carrier and stay away from cares and interminable board discutions.
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Unless you want to surf via 3G, in which case you're screwed with the Iphone, because it doesn't support it.
profir said:
Actually NO, it doesn’t! I allready did this stupid choice and now I'm crying for RAM and decent video.
And BTW, If you’ll compare it with iPhone which is in the same price segment, you’ll understand why I’m so disappointed.For this amount of money I’m tired to stay on internet, hoping for a solution. Go and spend 400USD for an iPhone which is now absolutely breakable for any GSM carrier and stay away from cares and interminable board discutions.
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I completely disagree. iPhone is in a different class. It is better for multi-media, but has worse messaging, communications, phone-dialing functions. You cant use it with one hand, etc.
And even though S730 ati subsystem is not wired it doesn't mean that it should run slower than for example VOX did which doesn't even have a dedicated graphics subsystem (after upcoming software patch). So iPhone is not even an option unless you are absolutely dumb about what you want from a phone. iPhone is a toy, compared. A cool toy
If you're not sure between S730 and N95 then I would go with the N95, it's a much more 'refined' product and does the things that it does very well, whereas the S730 is potentially more powerful but it's a bit more rough around the edges, mostly down to the operating system.
Oh and the biggest difference is that S730 has a QWERTY keyboard whereas the N95 doesn't.
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If you're not sure between S730 and N95 then I would go with the N95, it's a much more 'refined' product and does the things that it does very well, whereas the S730 is potentially more powerful but it's a bit more rough around the edges, mostly down to the operating system.
Oh and the biggest difference is that S730 has a QWERTY keyboard whereas the N95 doesn't.
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N95 has a bigger screen, but of same resolution. I used to have a N95-1 (first generation), and i didn't like it at all. It feels more like a simple nokia than a powerful smartphone. Contact searching sucks very, very hard (compared), emailing sucks too, internet browser renders sites worse, it IS laggy most of the time, slider mechanism wore out (became loose) very soon, note even talking about exchange "support", etc. On the good sides, it has standard headphones connector (HTC has a nice RM - W100/E100 remote music controller with 2.5mm port), it has sliding-out music controls, it feels durable (except the slider), it has a very good camera and a good look. I would definitely go with S730 though. It has it's flaws but i'm very happy with it.
The main difference is the keyboard. If you want to type some texts it's your phone. If not, N95 has GPS and better camera.
Been offered a diamond ( which I have updated to latest rom and works pretty fast) or a touch 3g 2 weeks old. Can you advise the pros and cons of each and what would be the best buy?
Cheers
ryanburger said:
Been offered a diamond ( which I have updated to latest rom and works pretty fast) or a touch 3g 2 weeks old. Can you advise the pros and cons of each and what would be the best buy?
Cheers
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I guess this all depends on where you live if you want 3G or not. Example: 3G is on the Touch 3G is only available in Europe and not North America. Thus no 3G if that matters to you. On the Diamond, 3G is pretty much world wide.
It's best to get more detail....here
ryanburger said:
Been offered a diamond ( which I have updated to latest rom and works pretty fast) or a touch 3g 2 weeks old. Can you advise the pros and cons of each and what would be the best buy?
Cheers
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Diamond all the way. The specs and usability are twice as good as a Touch3G. The only advantage of the Touch3G would be Footprints (yup the VGA version of Footprints is bug central ).
Can you explian what footprints are? Excuse my ignorance. Also will use the phone in UK. Just that the Touch 3g seems marginarly faster when using the touchflow interface. But the screen on the diamond is nice. R
footprints i think is just an extra tab on touchflo, where you can take snaps, add texts and upload them somwhere to the world wide web.
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footprints i think is just an extra tab on touchflo, where you can take snaps, add texts and upload them somwhere to the world wide web.
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It adds GPS-data to your photos so you and others can see where in the world the photo was snapped.
Pros Touch3G = better processor
Pros Diamond = TFT3D, VGA
about model, color etc, depends on you
This was the same confusion when i wa about to buy diamond. Now post buying diamond...its Diamond anytime anywhere in the world
I vote for diamond beside the design very elegant you also will get that you want on that phone
I have tried both Diamond and Touch 3g over the last few days and the diamond is much nicer with more features, however the battery life is terrible. I tried to show someone the features of it and within minutes I could see the battery life fading away. The touch 3g on the other hand (although fewer features) seems a little faster and to be honest, unless you use camera or GPS regularly, I can probably get by with less features. FM radio for instance. I cant remember when I used the headset on my last phone, finding it an optional extra that's not needed.
I must admit, I have difficulty resisting all the latest bangs and whistles gadjets but secuming to the high price tags and poor battery life etc when in reality I hardly use all of the features advertised.
R
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I have tried both Diamond and Touch 3g over the last few days and the diamond is much nicer with more features, however the battery life is terrible. I tried to show someone the features of it and within minutes I could see the battery life fading away. The touch 3g on the other hand (although fewer features) seems a little faster and to be honest, unless you use camera or GPS regularly, I can probably get by with less features. FM radio for instance. I cant remember when I used the headset on my last phone, finding it an optional extra that's not needed.
I must admit, I have difficulty resisting all the latest bangs and whistles gadjets but secuming to the high price tags and poor battery life etc when in reality I hardly use all of the features advertised.
R
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Actually a Diamond will get insane battery life. It just depends on the ROM being used. In about 6 hours of moderate use, I have 82% of my battery left from a full charge. Just throwing that out there.
What ROM is that? I have updated to the latest from HTC namaely 2.03.405.3 WWE . It does run faster but I had to charge it twice at work today after showing someone google maps on HSDPA . I think it looks great but £G seems faster and more reliable. Thanks Ryan
From WWDC Latest Iphone twice as quick apparently, has:-
3Mp camera, shoots video, - yawn
7.2Mbps HSDPA, MMS (if carrier supports it) woohoo
Voice control. (been there said it done it)
Built in Compass (not seen that in WM?)
Promised Battery life looks goog - 9 hrs wifi browsing!!!
Same old style, same old interface, all starting to look a bit "last years thing" to me still it is catching up with some features that WM phones have had for a while.
Mmmmm....
If you go line by line trying to match up features, you'll go nuts... not to mention you'll end up comparing to multiple different HTC/WM phones. And you'll still miss why the iPhone is such a success.
All I can say is the $99 3G model is very very appealing, if I wasn't on the plan of my life (SERO).
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If you go line by line trying to match up features, you'll go nuts... not to mention you'll end up comparing to multiple different HTC/WM phones. And you'll still miss why the iPhone is such a success.
All I can say is the $99 3G model is very very appealing, if I wasn't on the plan of my life (SERO).
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yup, i have been saying this for quite a while, i mean they say...
A can do this, B can do that and C can do this other thing... but the iPhone cant do all of them "thats fair...."
i really want to see the Pre vs iPhone duke out (i want to get a Pre but still have time to be converted cuz my contract isnt up in a couple of months)
I have to say one thing apple really did not think about the name here "iphone 3G S". wtf?!?! is S for anyway? second round? if so then just put a 2 at the end like most companies => HTC for example.
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I have to say one thing apple really did not think about the name here "iphone 3G S". wtf?!?! is S for anyway? second round? if so then just put a 2 at the end like most companies => HTC for example.
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the 's' is for speed, since apps run 2x faster the made it 3GS...I agree though, lame name.
Im contemplating getting it though, as much as it pains me to say that.
I want the TP2, but not sure when the release date for AT&T is and I am scared my impatience may get the best of me!
wow! upgraded the OS and the phone runs faster, and some new/add features, and they calling it a NEW PHONE iphone 3Gs! no wonder iphone is for iDIOT! what do think the "i" in iphone stands for? i=iDIOT!
if they do this on windows mobiles, they will have a HUGE lawsuit on their ass!
upgraded Touchpro2 with windows 6.5 with add features, phone runs faster, it' the TP2+ !
upgraded sony x1 with windows 6.5 with add features, phone runs faster, it' Sony Xperia X2 !
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wow! upgraded the OS and the phone runs faster, and some new/add features, and they calling it a NEW PHONE iphone 3Gs! no wonder iphone is for iDIOT! what do think the "i" in iphone stands for? i=iDIOT!
if they do this on windows mobiles, they will have a HUGE lawsuit on their ass!
upgraded Touchpro2 with windows 6.5 with add features, phone runs faster, it' the TP2+ !
upgraded sony x1 with windows 6.5 with add features, phone runs faster, it' Sony Xperia X2 !
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I believe that with the upgrade, there are still some things that the iPhone3G still can not do. MMS is one I believe, and obviously the extended battery life would be another (among other things)
I noticed you are ATT, how did you get TP2, did you buy it from europe and unlock it for at&t?
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I believe that with the upgrade, there are still some things that the iPhone3G still can not do. MMS is one I believe, and obviously the extended battery life would be another (among other things)
I noticed you are ATT, how did you get TP2, did you buy it from europe and unlock it for at&t?
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i'm sure there' some features in wm6.5 that wm6.1 can not do, they dont call it a new phone just cus you upgraded the freaking OS with added features!
i'm sure if you upgrade your phone radio (rom), you might have better battery life, u still have the same old phone, NOT a new phone!
calling it a new phone, iphone 3Gs is false adversting!
As with all things apple, it is marketed so well, the point of my post was not to slag off the iphone, (it does after all have many things in its favour) but to point out that apple have an uncanny ability to add features that are old hat an most other platforms (not just WM) and sell them as in some way revolutionary.
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I believe that with the upgrade, there are still some things that the iPhone3G still can not do. MMS is one I believe, and obviously the extended battery life would be another (among other things)
I noticed you are ATT, how did you get TP2, did you buy it from europe and unlock it for at&t?
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i don't think the i in iphone is for idiot , i don't think its wrong for people to have them .
they are on the otherhand not my kind of phone lol . i like my fuze very much !
he never said he had a tp2 lol
Some of you guys are really reaching here. Upgrading a ROM leads to better battery life?
Also, don't forget that before 6.1, every new release required a new phone. I still have a WM5 Moto Q that Moto never upgraded to WM6.
Also, my expensive Touch Pro only records in crappy QCIF
Apple products are all about style and simplicity. Most are made so that your grandma can pickup and use them. If apple took the 3g and raised the price to 120 and called it jphone 3g, it would still sell more than any other smartphone because of the interface. FYI not an apple fanboy, I do own several windows mobile devices and it is my favorite platform. And think about it windows mobile and other os's are spread over several devices, If you want apple's os you only have the iphone, the ipod touch doesn't make cellular network calls.
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Some of you guys are really reaching here. Upgrading a ROM leads to better battery life?
Also, don't forget that before 6.1, every new release required a new phone. I still have a WM5 Moto Q that Moto never upgraded to WM6.
Also, my expensive Touch Pro only records in crappy QCIF
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not a rom, but a radio could give you better battery life / reception etc
pending on the ROM. that is why its good to read which radios have been tested =]
Apple is Great Marketing and medium products (it's not a flame, only reality).
10mins ago I see to TG5 about iPhone 3GS... I haven't see about other Device (only 10 seconds to Nokia and Omnia): Great Marketing!!!
They could sell jPhone without problems
Yeah, their marketing is what makes the difference.
They market things like MMS and Copy/Cut/Paste like they were big changes.
Does it run mulitple applications
Can the iPhone run multiple applications. I dont have much knowledge abt iPhone- Like I am listening to music, browsing wifi and suddenly receive call. While the call is getting recorded(call recorder) access word or excel file or even lookup to email or sms received and on hangup , the call the recorder stops- music continues and you can get back to browsing from where you left.
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Can the iPhone run multiple applications. I dont have much knowledge abt iPhone- Like I am listening to music, browsing wifi and suddenly receive call. While the call is getting recorded(call recorder) access word or excel file or even lookup to email or sms received and on hangup , the call the recorder stops- music continues and you can get back to browsing from where you left.
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No Call Recorder (that i know of) but everything else is possible on a stock iPhone.
there's no competition for the difference in plan rate if you scored sprint sero
even on my evdo htc mogul/titan 6800 the opera browser (turbo or mini socket/proxy) gives 7mbps for web page loading
i sense i'm not missing too much except more memory and some hard drive space should you drop the extra $100 for the 32gb iphone
but then again a 16gb microSD card is only $50
slendering down my brick with extended battery to match that of the iphone doesn't justify the price offset i receive for an outdated phone with cheap accessories
it does enough for a device in my pocket to keep me happy
but if money isn't an option...there seem to be just as good options in the wm market
about the only product i am really in desire of from "the other side" is one of their past mac bluetooth keyboards for my wm phone
how you like them apples
Truth is - price point is the key. Look at how many Tilt's were purchased and how many people joined this forum when ATT had them on sale from .01 to 99 dollars.
Hey all.
Today, you would be a diamond 1 or HD/Diamond 2 ?
Iv'e heared diamond 1 is slow, and her touch sceen is crap.
Well, depends on how you look at it. Of course the phone can be slow and such, but with minor tweaks to TF3D and to the registry, you can get the phone real smooth. Out of all those you said, I would pick HD because it got a 3,5mm jack and a bigger screen
Dont get a Diamond 1. You'll be investing un old(er) tech. I would get a Diamond 2 or TP2. I'm using a BB Bold at the moment which i prefere to the Diamond.. I'm sticking with RIM untill WinMo 7 comes out natively on devices.
If the previews of the Zune HD are anything to go by then Win Mo 7 will be worth the wait and i'll be ditching RIM in a heartbeat as they just dont have the same quality of software base available possibly due to restrictions of what memory is available to programs whilst there running. But, what they do well is the basics you'd expect of a communications device. Email, phone calls, even the mp3 player is much better sound quality than on my old Diamond
The efforts of the ROM cookers on this forum is excellent and Im sure MS are taking on board comments from web sites like this but a chef is only as good as his ingredients and the ROMs being leaked at the moment are full of bugs.
This is obviously just my own opinion on the subject though
i prefere the diamond 1 its cheaper , cooler , got the look , have a lot of developers here , alot of ROMS , does not have any manufacture problems like the diamond 2 or the pro 2
Aqrab, what manufactues problem are you talking about??
Artieq, iv'e didnt meant about the screen size. iv'e heared its a fingerprint nightmare...and also it have poor battery life.
I can get diamond 1 in 225$, and diamond2/HD in 480- 500$
spikeuk76, what are you talking about ?
"Dont get a Diamond 1. You'll be investing un old(er) tech. I would get a Diamond 2 or TP2. I'm using a BB Bold at the moment which i prefere to the Diamond.. I'm sticking with RIM untill WinMo 7 comes out natively on devices."
What TP2 is ?
BB bold?
RIM?
WINMO 7 ?
Well, now i need to decide between the diamond 2 to the HD. it's a very hard decision
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its cheaper , cooler , got the look , have a lot of developers here , alot of ROMS
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Yeah, that also were the main reasons for me to buy a D1.
D2 has a bigger screen, more RAM, better Cam, microSD card slot and a battery with more capacity. If you need one of these and are willing to invest much more than the D2 is your device.
In my opinion the D1 runs very smooth even with demanding apps. Remember also, D2 has the same chipset.
fwmone said:
Yeah, that also were the main reasons for me to buy a D1.
D2 has a bigger screen, more RAM, better Cam, microSD card slot and a battery with more capacity. If you need one of these and are willing to invest much more than the D2 is your device.
In my opinion the D1 runs very smooth even with demanding apps. Remember also, D2 has the same chipset.
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Hello
I'm gonna make alot of skype calls (wifi) with the device
The device can't replace music player like COWON D2+
Same chipset? what? and the hd have the same also ?
It's not that i need to add alot of money to buy the hd/diamond 2.
I'm afraid the diamond 1 will be slow, fingerprint nightmare, and bad battery.
I think the best for me will be hd/diamond 2.
Well, you are right about the battery life and fingerprints, but the phone itself IS SMOOTH AS SILK (for me).
Well diamond1 is in different level compared to D2 & HD because is a lot cheaper and have less ram and rom.
So between thous two I would go for diamond 2, because it's little smaller than HD, and other specks are the same, except the HD has 3.5 jack & bigger screen.
So it's depends what you like - need, bigger screen 3.5 jack, get HD, I like a little smaller device, that could comfortably fit in my pocket, so I would get D2!
Yeah, its alot cheaper, i can get diamond 1 in 225$, and diamond2/HD in 480- 500$.
But diamond 1 has few bad things that has been fixed in hd and d2, don't you think so?
Anyway, i don't know if i need a big screen. i will mostly use it to make fring (skype) calls, and in 4-6months, i will use the software teamviewer that will be released.
I will not use the device for playing music, because the cowon d2 from what iv'e heared, have better sounds quality.
efi2222 said:
Hello
I'm gonna make alot of skype calls (wifi) with the device
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Wifi is an absolute battery drainer. D2 has indeed 200mAh more capacity but also a larger screen. You might wanna go with the D1 HTC 1340mAh "extended battery". Although that one requires another back cover which makes the devices thicker.
efi2222 said:
Same chipset? what? and the hd have the same also ?
It's not that i need to add alot of money to buy the hd/diamond 2.
I'm afraid the diamond 1 will be slow, fingerprint nightmare, and bad battery.
I think the best for me will be hd/diamond 2.
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HD also features the Qualcomm chipset.
From what I and many others can say the D1 runs perfectly smooth - but yes, it is a fingerprint magnet (as will be D2/HD) and its battery is small. I bought a second one but only for heavy usage (eg navigation on the bike). Otherwise it offers me a reasonable lifetime even when listening to music for hrs.
Hey
lol why buy other device when you can just buy an HD/diamond 2
I think i will go over the diamond 2... i will see it in a store and then decide.
thank you.
Hello all,
I have a lot of Problems with this VPA. Now it makes all, but not what I want. After a start it runs fine, but after a Hour it makes silly things.
I will now try a lite Rom or anything else.
Thanks a lot to all hard Workers on custom Roms
today i sold my diamond. thx foe god...i just wanna thx to all xda members who helped me modding and ypgrading..but after i saw the iphone, tired that famous multi touch...i just sicked and tired of changin roms, etc...
hope one day when winmo will have multi touch, changable rongtones and such litle things i will back to htc devices...
cheers...
Can't comment on multi-touch, but pretty sure every Windows mobile device I've had since my first Magician has supported changing ringtones, in fact I actually found the adding of ringtones to be more hassle on the iPhone than it ever was on any of my Win devices. (I recently sold my iPhone 3G in favour of getting a new Windows Mobile device)
Just been offered the Diamond for free on a £20/month contract, so seriously considering going for that unless something else is available