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I thought Windows Mobile automatically changed to British Summmer time etc . Mine didn't last night .. Is it suposed to ? Thought it usd to

Mine did.
Did you select that option when you first set it up?

my guess is that you never told it to do this.
start|settings|phone|timezones - automatic change time zone and clock

Strange that is checked in the phone options . Do you mean at initial set up from hard reset ?

hrmmm. yours was clicked? I'd set the clock back to yesterday at 11:59 and watch what happens again.

The time zones option is not for daytlight savings. It is for the device to auto change timezone when you travel/roam... and it is most certainly not advised - as it changes all your appointment times too!
(And there;s threads on here saying it does other nasty things too).

Hi yea , just hard reset and done that ... Nothing

You can actually check the thing buy looking at the notification queue (at least for my WM5 HTC Wizard). You'll see an item on DST changing time. Do whatever you want, and see if that's noted there.

kireol said:
hrmmm. yours was clicked? I'd set the clock back to yesterday at 11:59 and watch what happens again.
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The time change happens at 0200 - the official changeover time.

Hmm , Ive hard reset ... Nothing .. Sorry what additional software do i need to see the notification queue

I would be interested in this too; mine didn't change over and in fact neither did my old WM 2003 Himalaya and it usually did

What version of the phone are you lads using?
Im using a Vario III and mine updated fine.

HTC Branded Tytn 11

i wonder if i can add problem to this,,,mine update fine..BUT my alarms still go off at the old time ie..7.00 am to get up is set to 7 but goes off at 6....
i am sure a hard reset will fix it , just wanted let you all know....

Help!!!! Time keeps changing

Hey!
I seriously need some help here. Toolbar clock keeps changing. Suddenly it is on time and then the next time I turn it on it might have gone back 2 hours.
Example.
I turn it on and the clock shows 15.34.
I check my calendar and turn it off (standby)
I turn it on again the next time, say after 30 min. The clock SHOULD show 16.04, but it might say 07.17.
Anybody had the same problem?
I tried calling out, send a message, etc. but the clock does not change. Sometimes it goes back to normal, ie. it displays the correct time without me doing anything, but today it has not and the time is still wrong.
This is seriously annoying. I use my phone as my watch and I need it to display the correct time at ALL times.
Thanks

Hi, helangen.
I had a similar problem involving time. I kept finding that every so often my appointments kept changing by an hour. Everytime I went to the clock settings it showed plus one hour. So changed it back and then it would do it again and change to a time zone ahead.
Under "settings/personal/phones" there is a tab that says time zones. this controls whether or not the phone changes the time zones and clock automatically.
Personally, i erased my phone using clear storage under "settings/system" and started a fresh making sure I choose the right time zone and regional settings first off. Then entered all my reoccuring appointments and restored a copy of my PIM with the latest version of PIMBACKUP. At least this saved me entering all my contacts and kept my sms and mms.
I then unticked the automatic option I mentioned earlier and have had not one time related problem since.
Don't know if this will help but it can't hurt to share as you never know..
diigibio (diigimatrix)

diigibio said:
Hi, helangen.
I had a similar problem involving time. I kept finding that every so often my appointments kept changing by an hour. Everytime I went to the clock settings it showed plus one hour. So changed it back and then it would do it again and change to a time zone ahead.
Under "settings/personal/phones" there is a tab that says time zones. this controls whether or not the phone changes the time zones and clock automatically.
Personally, i erased my phone using clear storage under "settings/system" and started a fresh making sure I choose the right time zone and regional settings first off. Then entered all my reoccuring appointments and restored a copy of my PIM with the latest version of PIMBACKUP. At least this saved me entering all my contacts and kept my sms and mms.
I then unticked the automatic option I mentioned earlier and have had not one time related problem since.
Don't know if this will help but it can't hurt to share as you never know..
diigibio (diigimatrix)
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Cheers. I'll give that a try. It's not that the clock just changes with an hour, but it is totally random how it changes. I might have to do a hard reset ;(

I can confirm that this solution worked. Thanks. Turned off the automatic timezone change and the clock have been correct for three days straight.

All of my appointments are an hour off after DST change!

Please forgive me if this is being discussed elsewhere, but I skimmed through the Kaiser forum, and I didn't see anyone else mentioning this problem. My phone automatically reset the clock for DST yesterday, and looking through the calendar today all the appointments are an hour off. For example, my work schedule. On the day summary page it says I work 07:30 - 21:00 today, however when you click edit appointment it says 06:30 - 20:00. On Wednesday I have jury duty. On the day page it says that jury duty starts at 10:30, however it really starts at 9:30, and if I show up an hour late I am in contempt of court!
Is there a setting I am not aware of? When I click edit appointment it shows the correct time, but on the day page its an hour late. The thing that really bothers me is that since I have an erratic schedule at work I have it set to remind me an hour before, just in case I forget to set my alarm clock the night before. Today I got my 1 hour reminder while actually driving to work!
I am using the new Tilt ROM, details are in my signature.
Thanks, Jay

Update: I've been on the phone with AT&T tech support for 30 minutes now, and it still doesn't work right ...
-Jay

If you are saying the Today Screen Calendar is off by an hour, but the calendar inside the pda is ok; A soft reset should fix your issue.
We had a couple of Hermes and kaiser's with this issue yesterday.

Try the attached cab

Ok, I 've been transferred to HTC support from ATT, which is nice, I didn't have to call them myself, and the ATT rep explained my problem to them. There is a hotfix of this issue, I haven't tried it yet, but I figured I'd share. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949168
-Jay

eagle 1 said:
If you are saying the Today Screen Calendar is off by an hour, but the calendar inside the pda is ok; A soft reset should fix your issue.
We had a couple of Hermes and kaiser's with this issue yesterday.
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I've soft reset and took the battery out. I'm going to try the DST cab.
-Jay

WOW! Mine is too!
Didn't even notice.
All my calendar events were changed from 8am start to 9am start.
What the heck?!

Yeah, it's stupid daylight savings time. You have to download a patch from microsoft to fix it, can do it straight to the phone by going to www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile and hit the Update option. I don't really understand why it couldn't just be automatically sent thru the Windows Update option under Settings...talk about a frustrating issue though!

now the question is will it work with 6.1

I saw this coming days ahead because of my scheduling :S...
Anyways, what fixed for me was just fixing the time on my Kaiser, all but one (?) appointments switched back to the original time automatically. No extra cabs or tweaks.
Good luck with that.

I've tried running that patch, and after installing the cab, it resets the Tilt, and then when it comes back everything is still the same. I've tried switching to a different timezone, and then back (per the advice in the another thread) to no avail.
Jimmyv - what do you mean you "fixed" the time?
Jay, please keep us updated as to what you're finding out.

Jimmyy said:
I saw this coming days ahead because of my scheduling :S...
Anyways, what fixed for me was just fixing the time on my Kaiser, all but one (?) appointments switched back to the original time automatically. No extra cabs or tweaks.
Good luck with that.
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I tried resetting the clock, but the appointments were not effected. I just got back from lunch, I'm going to try the cab now.
-Jay

Keep in mind this is not, nor should it be considered, a permanent fix. I don't know what long-term problems this could cause, but I'll tell you how I got it to work for me.
1. (Not sure if this is needed, because it didn't seem to change anything) Install the 2008 DST update from Microsoft.
2. Make sure all your appointments are still set to their original times (As in, you didn't change the original hour so that it'd remind you with it's skewed view of reality )
2a. (You may not have to do this) Under the Phone options dialog (Settings -> Personal -> Phone), go to the 'Time Zones' tab, and uncheck 'Automatic change time zone and clock'.
3. Go to the clock settings dialog (Settings -> System -> Clock & Alarms) Set the time zone to the one an hour behind you (-6 to -7 is what I did)
4. Set the time, manually, an hour ahead. (In the system clock dialog, there are two options for time: Time zone, and time. Set the time zone an hour behind, then set the actual time an hour ahead.)
5. Enjoy. Your appointments should now be okay.
I do hope someone figures out what's really causing this, though, because I'm not keen on changing the time zone every time DST comes into effect.
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AT&T Tilt, running Custel 2.1 AT&T Chopped and Screwed with Custel Touch Fix.

Mine works fine.
Your time is pulled off the network. I don't see how this could cause a problem.

YEa... had this problem myself. Figured it was a good time to hard reset and reinstall since I had a crapload of stuff I didn't use anymore.

vena_wolf said:
Keep in mind this is not, nor should it be considered, a permanent fix. I don't know what long-term problems this could cause, but I'll tell you how I got it to work for me.
1. (Not sure if this is needed, because it didn't seem to change anything) Install the 2008 DST update from Microsoft.
2. Make sure all your appointments are still set to their original times (As in, you didn't change the original hour so that it'd remind you with it's skewed view of reality )
2a. (You may not have to do this) Under the Phone options dialog (Settings -> Personal -> Phone), go to the 'Time Zones' tab, and uncheck 'Automatic change time zone and clock'.
3. Go to the clock settings dialog (Settings -> System -> Clock & Alarms) Set the time zone to the one an hour behind you (-6 to -7 is what I did)
4. Set the time, manually, an hour ahead. (In the system clock dialog, there are two options for time: Time zone, and time. Set the time zone an hour behind, then set the actual time an hour ahead.)
5. Enjoy. Your appointments should now be okay.
I do hope someone figures out what's really causing this, though, because I'm not keen on changing the time zone every time DST comes into effect.
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AT&T Tilt, running Custel 2.1 AT&T Chopped and Screwed with Custel Touch Fix.
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That worked, but for appointments I entered today now are an hour early! I can't win.
-Jay

Rescue9 said:
YEa... had this problem myself. Figured it was a good time to hard reset and reinstall since I had a crapload of stuff I didn't use anymore.
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A hard reset wouldn't be bad, but I really don't want to re-enter all of my appointments. Otherwise I could fix it by just deleting all the appointments and re-entering them.
-Jay

Twenty4 said:
Mine works fine.
Your time is pulled off the network. I don't see how this could cause a problem.
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I think the problem is that 2 things are trying to do the same thing. The network is trying to adjust for DST and windows is trying to do it too. I wish there was a way to just turn off DST and let the phone manage the time.
-Jay

Jay2TheRescue said:
I think the problem is that 2 things are trying to do the same thing. The network is trying to adjust for DST and windows is trying to do it too. I wish there was a way to just turn off DST and let the phone manage the time.
-Jay
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I just had a brainstorm! I'm in the eastern time zone. (GMT -5) Indiana does not participate in DST. I switched my time zone to GMT-5 Indiana, and all my appointments are correct now. I'm leaving autoupdate time on the phone, so this should take care of itself, and the phone will manage the time changes.
-Jay

I just realized you do have to turn autoupdate time off to use my earlier method. Futhermore, due to the same problem, I'm not sure you're new method will work forever. The reason I had to turn autoupdate time off was because the network told my phone it was -not- in the -7 time zone. I think, after a little bit of time, it will tell you're phone it's not in Indiana and you'll be stuck with the same problem all over again. x.x I'm going to look at the registry for the clock/calendar integration and see if I can't find some hidden setting that'll stop the clock from messing with the appointments. I'm pretty new to this though, so don't bet on my finding something that'll work. Any help from someone smarter would be very much appreciated. ;D
Edit: Sadly, the only thing I could find that looks anywhere close to something in relation to this is the value TimeZoneInformation in HKLM\Time. I can't figure out how I'm supposed to edit that so that changing the time zone doesn't touch the appointments, though. I'm not even convinced it's possible. Anyone else know any registry values that might relate to this problem? I'm going to try and decompile the MS patch next to see if I can find any hints with what they did.. Even if it didn't work.

HTC Diamond randomly restarts

Hi,
I noticed that my Diamond keeps frequently decides to restart, especially overnight when recharging. Anyone know something about this?

have had the same problem in the past restarts 1-2 an hour. installed diff rom and no problems. will try to think of the rom builds which might be more helpfull

had the same issue with rom 1.35 when first gotten the phone.
its been resolved since I upgraded to 1.93

HTC_GLOW said:
have had the same problem in the past restarts 1-2 an hour. installed diff rom and no problems. will try to think of the rom builds which might be more helpfull
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I've had this issue with BePe 0.97, under same circunstances: charging at night.
But I had an additional issue, as the phone was endlessly restarting. It showed the initial screen and vibrated, but before it showed the ROM and Radio version it restarted again. Eventually I was able to put the PIN and boot WMobile, and I quickly turned the flight mode on (as I wanted it to be stable at night, as I needed the alarm this morning).
I've no idea about what happened, as I had made no changes, but lastly the phone only charges 2 bars during all night long, and I can't connect it to the PC via ActiveSync. (I don't know if it can be related to this problem...)

Hi all,
I am working on the official HTC rom (I believe it's 1.37) and have not installed any unknown software...

1.35 rom on my wife's TD, same problem as yours
1.37 rom on mine, same problem, abeit less frequent
now both on 1.93 rom, no problems.
maybe give it a try, been pretty smooth on both TDs so far without any tweaks done

1.93 restarts
My HTC Diamond restarts during recharge at night.. i have 1.93. this sucks.. Anyone else have this issue?

try doing a hard reset.
i had some issues like opera not working n some others that i can't recall offhand b4 when first upgraded to 1.93
i did a hard reset and have not had any issues since
funny thing is, everyday at midnight, if i were wake the phone, the minutes flap on the clock will start to flip non-stop till the exact minute eg. 12.39am; the minutes flap will continuously flip from 12.00 to 12.39

My diamond also does random restarts. Not only while charging at night, but during the day, while working with it, too.
I tried a lot of roms. On some the restarts where less frequent, but still there. Any idea what I can do about it?
Greetz

Hi,
My Diamond also random restarts. I try 3 type ROM (original CZECH, original ENGLISH, Dutty), but Diamond random restarts. Any idea???
(sorry for my english )

Hard-SPL or warranty return
Dare I suggest it, but if you have this issue AFTER a rom change, and/or after a a HARD reset then the only thing left is your SPL (Hard or otherwise)...have you "played" around here yet?
If you have and this has made no change I would be beating a path to your handset provider with you warranty card for service repair or replacement!!!

1.93
enfant_terrible1979 said:
had the same issue with rom 1.35 when first gotten the phone.
its been resolved since I upgraded to 1.93
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My HTC Touch Diamond has 1.93 installed and it's still happening.
Have 3 HTC Diamonds, 2 working fine and 1 got this problem since the day I bought it.
Anyone has link to download the 1.35 ROM? Thanks.

I dont think that it has something to do with Hard-SPL. I had the problem with the original rom to (never flashed).
I now used Aztor Rom, didnt install any apps, but the restarts still happen. I have the feeling that they only happen if applications were running.
Maybe the storrage gets to full?
Tonight I am going to install Panosha shine on v2.0 with a bigger pagepool- maybe that helps?!?
Greetz
Korbi

I got the same issue
I bought HTC diamond 20 days back. It is restarting automatically . sometimes while incoming call recieved or sometimes while calling others from contacts. sometimes in the night by itself getting restarted. more over sometime it is automatically switched off.
I am using ROM 1.93.720.2.
Can anyone help me out here

Turns off while charging and changes the clock
Hi guys, I noticed none of you had the problem like i did:
If I leave my Diamond to be charged during the night, sometimes it works just fine and nothing happens. But like this morning it really f*cked me up: It reboots and when i woke up (to the sound of the alarm clock) it was in the "enter pin" screen. TouchFlo3d worked just fine and I inserted the pin code and it's been working just fine since then. The only problem (which I discovered after my morning shower) came up when my boss called me and told me I was already 10 minutes late (work starts at 3pm). My Diamond showed me that it was still 2.35pm and I had been woken up by the alarm at 2.20 as I had set it.
So the problem: The device turns off during charging and changes the time of the clock (or the clock jams and doesn't update for a while...)
I have the 1.93.414.1 WWe ROM from htc.com and eveyrthing else works just fine. This problem was first discovered when I bought this device with the original 1.34 ROM I believe.. Updated to 1.93 and still it continues. Any suggestions ?

How did you enter the pin to boot to windows mobile? I have the same problem it keeps rebooting itself and I do not know what to do, I did hard reset but it did not help.
Thanks.

I start to investigate the wired issue...
I noticed if I put the Diamond to sleep (charge) after Midnight nothing happened and no restart during night , if I put Diamond before Midnight , then it may get Restart during the night..
The other issue I noticed the wired Clock between 00:00 and 00:39 as
some reported here, if you open the Diamond , lets say at 00:30 , u will see clock start from 00:00 to 00:01 , 00:02 etc till it arrive to 00:30 ,
I m using Second Today screen with Digital clock installed and found that there is no problem in clock , i'll explain:
During the clock moving from 00:00 to 00:30 (in the TF3D) I pressed on the Second Today and saw clock 00:30, moved back to TF3D and saw clock continue moving to the "target" 00:30..
I made 1 +1 (restart problem and clock problem) and found that the problem comes from TF3D...
To prove it I made this test - I put Diamond to sleep before Midnight ,
but after Shut down the TF3D from setting >> Today
and open the TF3D back during the morning...
Since I made it, No restart during night anymore...
So all you have to do is to close the TF3D to prevent from restert during night, and open it back in the morning..
Try it too so we can be sure it's TF3D problem..
Seems like TF3D needs to sleep too during the night

Bug in TF3d
On Duttys penultimate rom I had the clock issue but also when I went to contacts. TF3d wouldn't display them and reverted to the home screen again.

arix said:
I start to investigate the wired issue...
I noticed if I put the Diamond to sleep (charge) after Midnight nothing happened and no restart during night , if I put Diamond before Midnight , then it may get Restart during the night..
The other issue I noticed the wired Clock between 00:00 and 00:39 as
some reported here, if you open the Diamond , lets say at 00:30 , u will see clock start from 00:00 to 00:01 , 00:02 etc till it arrive to 00:30 ,
I m using Second Today screen with Digital clock installed and found that there is no problem in clock , i'll explain:
During the clock moving from 00:00 to 00:30 (in the TF3D) I pressed on the Second Today and saw clock 00:30, moved back to TF3D and saw clock continue moving to the "target" 00:30..
I made 1 +1 (restart problem and clock problem) and found that the problem comes from TF3D...
To prove it I made this test - I put Diamond to sleep before Midnight ,
but after Shut down the TF3D from setting >> Today
and open the TF3D back during the morning...
Since I made it, No restart during night anymore...
So all you have to do is to close the TF3D to prevent from restert during night, and open it back in the morning..
Try it too so we can be sure it's TF3D problem..
Seems like TF3D needs to sleep too during the night
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I dont even use TF3D and have this problem...

korbi said:
I dont even use TF3D and have this problem...
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and you said "My diamond also does random restarts. Not only while charging at night, but during the day, while working with it, too."
Seems like you have other problem. not the night restarting

Wrong time

Hi
The clock on my htc tytn II keep displaying wrong time. I set the time but after few hours time is still the same . It has happened few times.
Any idea what's going wrong with it.
K

do you have the right time zone set?
If you do have the right timezone and it still changes, maybe your network time is off. Go to start, settings, phone and then the Time Zones tab on the bottom and uncheck "Automatic change time zone and clock."
Also sometimes when you sync your device with your pc it will set your device's time to you pc's time so check your pc time and time zone as well if it happens after you sync.

Thanks for the reply, I have unchecked "Automatic change time zone and clock" option but just to clarify the problem.
The time on the phone seems to stand still on random ocassions.
e.g. i normally set the alarm to wake up at 4:30 am everyday. The alram didn't go off today. When I suddenly woke up at 06:00 am and found the time on phone is 4:00 am . it felt good having 2 extra hours of sleep
It happened couple of times last year but this year so far 4 time already.
K

so is your time changing or getting stuck?
Is your entire device freezing or just your clock?
If its just your clock, i dont know what would be causing that. Try making sure all other programs are exited and/or do a soft reset before you go to bed.

clock is getting stuck.
phone works fine no problem, have been doing soft resets and after that it works fine for a day or two.
i guess i need to do sme more poking around to try to fig out what is causing the clock to get stuck.
thanks any ways.
K

Hi k_aftab,
i have the same problem.
have you find the cause of this problem?!
thanks

I have the same problem too...any fix?