hello friends
i am a new user of wm5 device ( O2 XDA mini S) in india.
i have purchase my mobile from London U.K.
my problem is bit funney.
now see the screens atteched below.
1st screen shows time (as per GMT +5:30) 5:06 AM 15/10/2006 (which is not a correct time in india,the time in my place as per IST is 4:35 PM14/10/2006.)
now i have changed time to GMT -7:00 Which shows the correct time and date of india.( Screen 2).
now can any body help me how to get rid of this problem.
please help me
i am in a big problem as i didn't get the right time on my miobile.
please help me out it's urgent..............
PRANAV DESAI
It took me by surprise when one day my battery died and my date and time was screwed...after diging the device i found that in settings - system - clock and alarm u can change the numbers...yea, u can...i also thought that they where fixed but not...
Trashman said:
It took me by surprise when one day my battery died and my date and time was screwed...after diging the device i found that in settings - system - clock and alarm u can change the numbers...yea, u can...i also thought that they where fixed but not...
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but after doing that when i sync my device with pc./ soft reset it the time changes again..and my appo and task list also changed sim.
i didn't understand that when i am setting my device to GMT +5:30 it must shows time in india.but it doesn't.
and when i set it to GMT -7:00 it shows current time in India
what do you think it's b'cus i purchased my device from U.K.??????????
any body have ans please?????????/
You have changed your Timezone in Settings->System->Clock&Alarms->Home and have Home selected ?
And what about timezone on desktop? it seems like it refresh time from desktop but wrong...
I am having the exact same problem... Everytime I sync, It changes the time 1 hour back... This is driving me crazy!!!! Everytime I sync, I have to change the time back to its original time!!!
Rjp20 said:
I am having the exact same problem... Everytime I sync, It changes the time 1 hour back... This is driving me crazy!!!! Everytime I sync, I have to change the time back to its original time!!!
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This sounds like a daylight savings time problem.
It happened to me as well ... (I felt really dumb .. nut it happens )... untill I realized that the timezone on my desktop computer was not set properly... e.g. if the time zone is set +5 .. .when synced you will get +5h on your device
As i said...
After installing Faria's 3.3 ROM I am having the same problem on my wizard. AS is set not to update time & date automatically. I found a solution in the Artemis Forum, you have to set both "home" and "visiting" times the same. I just did this, and looks like it's working
I thought Windows Mobile automatically changed to British Summmer time etc . Mine didn't last night .. Is it suposed to ? Thought it usd to
Mine did.
Did you select that option when you first set it up?
my guess is that you never told it to do this.
start|settings|phone|timezones - automatic change time zone and clock
Strange that is checked in the phone options . Do you mean at initial set up from hard reset ?
hrmmm. yours was clicked? I'd set the clock back to yesterday at 11:59 and watch what happens again.
The time zones option is not for daytlight savings. It is for the device to auto change timezone when you travel/roam... and it is most certainly not advised - as it changes all your appointment times too!
(And there;s threads on here saying it does other nasty things too).
Hi yea , just hard reset and done that ... Nothing
You can actually check the thing buy looking at the notification queue (at least for my WM5 HTC Wizard). You'll see an item on DST changing time. Do whatever you want, and see if that's noted there.
kireol said:
hrmmm. yours was clicked? I'd set the clock back to yesterday at 11:59 and watch what happens again.
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The time change happens at 0200 - the official changeover time.
Hmm , Ive hard reset ... Nothing .. Sorry what additional software do i need to see the notification queue
I would be interested in this too; mine didn't change over and in fact neither did my old WM 2003 Himalaya and it usually did
What version of the phone are you lads using?
Im using a Vario III and mine updated fine.
HTC Branded Tytn 11
i wonder if i can add problem to this,,,mine update fine..BUT my alarms still go off at the old time ie..7.00 am to get up is set to 7 but goes off at 6....
i am sure a hard reset will fix it , just wanted let you all know....
Hey!
I seriously need some help here. Toolbar clock keeps changing. Suddenly it is on time and then the next time I turn it on it might have gone back 2 hours.
Example.
I turn it on and the clock shows 15.34.
I check my calendar and turn it off (standby)
I turn it on again the next time, say after 30 min. The clock SHOULD show 16.04, but it might say 07.17.
Anybody had the same problem?
I tried calling out, send a message, etc. but the clock does not change. Sometimes it goes back to normal, ie. it displays the correct time without me doing anything, but today it has not and the time is still wrong.
This is seriously annoying. I use my phone as my watch and I need it to display the correct time at ALL times.
Thanks
Hi, helangen.
I had a similar problem involving time. I kept finding that every so often my appointments kept changing by an hour. Everytime I went to the clock settings it showed plus one hour. So changed it back and then it would do it again and change to a time zone ahead.
Under "settings/personal/phones" there is a tab that says time zones. this controls whether or not the phone changes the time zones and clock automatically.
Personally, i erased my phone using clear storage under "settings/system" and started a fresh making sure I choose the right time zone and regional settings first off. Then entered all my reoccuring appointments and restored a copy of my PIM with the latest version of PIMBACKUP. At least this saved me entering all my contacts and kept my sms and mms.
I then unticked the automatic option I mentioned earlier and have had not one time related problem since.
Don't know if this will help but it can't hurt to share as you never know..
diigibio (diigimatrix)
diigibio said:
Hi, helangen.
I had a similar problem involving time. I kept finding that every so often my appointments kept changing by an hour. Everytime I went to the clock settings it showed plus one hour. So changed it back and then it would do it again and change to a time zone ahead.
Under "settings/personal/phones" there is a tab that says time zones. this controls whether or not the phone changes the time zones and clock automatically.
Personally, i erased my phone using clear storage under "settings/system" and started a fresh making sure I choose the right time zone and regional settings first off. Then entered all my reoccuring appointments and restored a copy of my PIM with the latest version of PIMBACKUP. At least this saved me entering all my contacts and kept my sms and mms.
I then unticked the automatic option I mentioned earlier and have had not one time related problem since.
Don't know if this will help but it can't hurt to share as you never know..
diigibio (diigimatrix)
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Cheers. I'll give that a try. It's not that the clock just changes with an hour, but it is totally random how it changes. I might have to do a hard reset ;(
I can confirm that this solution worked. Thanks. Turned off the automatic timezone change and the clock have been correct for three days straight.
I have noticed that my kasier seems to loose time. I will check the current GPS time and by my trusty watch (lol) and then set the time on the device. A few days later or so and the time on the clock on the device has lost about 10 mins! Anyone else have this issue?
Aside to this, does tha kaiser auto update the time from the service provider or from anywhere else?
I had exactly the same problem, seems the time difference between my home computer and work computer was to blame. I had it sync the time at home but not at work.
At least it gave me an excuse for being 20mins late on Monday
Please forgive me if this is being discussed elsewhere, but I skimmed through the Kaiser forum, and I didn't see anyone else mentioning this problem. My phone automatically reset the clock for DST yesterday, and looking through the calendar today all the appointments are an hour off. For example, my work schedule. On the day summary page it says I work 07:30 - 21:00 today, however when you click edit appointment it says 06:30 - 20:00. On Wednesday I have jury duty. On the day page it says that jury duty starts at 10:30, however it really starts at 9:30, and if I show up an hour late I am in contempt of court!
Is there a setting I am not aware of? When I click edit appointment it shows the correct time, but on the day page its an hour late. The thing that really bothers me is that since I have an erratic schedule at work I have it set to remind me an hour before, just in case I forget to set my alarm clock the night before. Today I got my 1 hour reminder while actually driving to work!
I am using the new Tilt ROM, details are in my signature.
Thanks, Jay
Update: I've been on the phone with AT&T tech support for 30 minutes now, and it still doesn't work right ...
-Jay
If you are saying the Today Screen Calendar is off by an hour, but the calendar inside the pda is ok; A soft reset should fix your issue.
We had a couple of Hermes and kaiser's with this issue yesterday.
Try the attached cab
Ok, I 've been transferred to HTC support from ATT, which is nice, I didn't have to call them myself, and the ATT rep explained my problem to them. There is a hotfix of this issue, I haven't tried it yet, but I figured I'd share. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949168
-Jay
eagle 1 said:
If you are saying the Today Screen Calendar is off by an hour, but the calendar inside the pda is ok; A soft reset should fix your issue.
We had a couple of Hermes and kaiser's with this issue yesterday.
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I've soft reset and took the battery out. I'm going to try the DST cab.
-Jay
WOW! Mine is too!
Didn't even notice.
All my calendar events were changed from 8am start to 9am start.
What the heck?!
Yeah, it's stupid daylight savings time. You have to download a patch from microsoft to fix it, can do it straight to the phone by going to www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile and hit the Update option. I don't really understand why it couldn't just be automatically sent thru the Windows Update option under Settings...talk about a frustrating issue though!
now the question is will it work with 6.1
I saw this coming days ahead because of my scheduling :S...
Anyways, what fixed for me was just fixing the time on my Kaiser, all but one (?) appointments switched back to the original time automatically. No extra cabs or tweaks.
Good luck with that.
I've tried running that patch, and after installing the cab, it resets the Tilt, and then when it comes back everything is still the same. I've tried switching to a different timezone, and then back (per the advice in the another thread) to no avail.
Jimmyv - what do you mean you "fixed" the time?
Jay, please keep us updated as to what you're finding out.
Jimmyy said:
I saw this coming days ahead because of my scheduling :S...
Anyways, what fixed for me was just fixing the time on my Kaiser, all but one (?) appointments switched back to the original time automatically. No extra cabs or tweaks.
Good luck with that.
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I tried resetting the clock, but the appointments were not effected. I just got back from lunch, I'm going to try the cab now.
-Jay
Keep in mind this is not, nor should it be considered, a permanent fix. I don't know what long-term problems this could cause, but I'll tell you how I got it to work for me.
1. (Not sure if this is needed, because it didn't seem to change anything) Install the 2008 DST update from Microsoft.
2. Make sure all your appointments are still set to their original times (As in, you didn't change the original hour so that it'd remind you with it's skewed view of reality )
2a. (You may not have to do this) Under the Phone options dialog (Settings -> Personal -> Phone), go to the 'Time Zones' tab, and uncheck 'Automatic change time zone and clock'.
3. Go to the clock settings dialog (Settings -> System -> Clock & Alarms) Set the time zone to the one an hour behind you (-6 to -7 is what I did)
4. Set the time, manually, an hour ahead. (In the system clock dialog, there are two options for time: Time zone, and time. Set the time zone an hour behind, then set the actual time an hour ahead.)
5. Enjoy. Your appointments should now be okay.
I do hope someone figures out what's really causing this, though, because I'm not keen on changing the time zone every time DST comes into effect.
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Mine works fine.
Your time is pulled off the network. I don't see how this could cause a problem.
YEa... had this problem myself. Figured it was a good time to hard reset and reinstall since I had a crapload of stuff I didn't use anymore.
vena_wolf said:
Keep in mind this is not, nor should it be considered, a permanent fix. I don't know what long-term problems this could cause, but I'll tell you how I got it to work for me.
1. (Not sure if this is needed, because it didn't seem to change anything) Install the 2008 DST update from Microsoft.
2. Make sure all your appointments are still set to their original times (As in, you didn't change the original hour so that it'd remind you with it's skewed view of reality )
2a. (You may not have to do this) Under the Phone options dialog (Settings -> Personal -> Phone), go to the 'Time Zones' tab, and uncheck 'Automatic change time zone and clock'.
3. Go to the clock settings dialog (Settings -> System -> Clock & Alarms) Set the time zone to the one an hour behind you (-6 to -7 is what I did)
4. Set the time, manually, an hour ahead. (In the system clock dialog, there are two options for time: Time zone, and time. Set the time zone an hour behind, then set the actual time an hour ahead.)
5. Enjoy. Your appointments should now be okay.
I do hope someone figures out what's really causing this, though, because I'm not keen on changing the time zone every time DST comes into effect.
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That worked, but for appointments I entered today now are an hour early! I can't win.
-Jay
Rescue9 said:
YEa... had this problem myself. Figured it was a good time to hard reset and reinstall since I had a crapload of stuff I didn't use anymore.
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A hard reset wouldn't be bad, but I really don't want to re-enter all of my appointments. Otherwise I could fix it by just deleting all the appointments and re-entering them.
-Jay
Twenty4 said:
Mine works fine.
Your time is pulled off the network. I don't see how this could cause a problem.
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I think the problem is that 2 things are trying to do the same thing. The network is trying to adjust for DST and windows is trying to do it too. I wish there was a way to just turn off DST and let the phone manage the time.
-Jay
Jay2TheRescue said:
I think the problem is that 2 things are trying to do the same thing. The network is trying to adjust for DST and windows is trying to do it too. I wish there was a way to just turn off DST and let the phone manage the time.
-Jay
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I just had a brainstorm! I'm in the eastern time zone. (GMT -5) Indiana does not participate in DST. I switched my time zone to GMT-5 Indiana, and all my appointments are correct now. I'm leaving autoupdate time on the phone, so this should take care of itself, and the phone will manage the time changes.
-Jay
I just realized you do have to turn autoupdate time off to use my earlier method. Futhermore, due to the same problem, I'm not sure you're new method will work forever. The reason I had to turn autoupdate time off was because the network told my phone it was -not- in the -7 time zone. I think, after a little bit of time, it will tell you're phone it's not in Indiana and you'll be stuck with the same problem all over again. x.x I'm going to look at the registry for the clock/calendar integration and see if I can't find some hidden setting that'll stop the clock from messing with the appointments. I'm pretty new to this though, so don't bet on my finding something that'll work. Any help from someone smarter would be very much appreciated. ;D
Edit: Sadly, the only thing I could find that looks anywhere close to something in relation to this is the value TimeZoneInformation in HKLM\Time. I can't figure out how I'm supposed to edit that so that changing the time zone doesn't touch the appointments, though. I'm not even convinced it's possible. Anyone else know any registry values that might relate to this problem? I'm going to try and decompile the MS patch next to see if I can find any hints with what they did.. Even if it didn't work.