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date and time adjust problem?????????????/

hello friends
i am a new user of wm5 device ( O2 XDA mini S) in india.
i have purchase my mobile from London U.K.
my problem is bit funney.
now see the screens atteched below.
1st screen shows time (as per GMT +5:30) 5:06 AM 15/10/2006 (which is not a correct time in india,the time in my place as per IST is 4:35 PM14/10/2006.)
now i have changed time to GMT -7:00 Which shows the correct time and date of india.( Screen 2).
now can any body help me how to get rid of this problem.
please help me
i am in a big problem as i didn't get the right time on my miobile.
please help me out it's urgent..............
PRANAV DESAI

It took me by surprise when one day my battery died and my date and time was screwed...after diging the device i found that in settings - system - clock and alarm u can change the numbers...yea, u can...i also thought that they where fixed but not...

Trashman said:
It took me by surprise when one day my battery died and my date and time was screwed...after diging the device i found that in settings - system - clock and alarm u can change the numbers...yea, u can...i also thought that they where fixed but not...
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but after doing that when i sync my device with pc./ soft reset it the time changes again..and my appo and task list also changed sim.
i didn't understand that when i am setting my device to GMT +5:30 it must shows time in india.but it doesn't.
and when i set it to GMT -7:00 it shows current time in India
what do you think it's b'cus i purchased my device from U.K.??????????
any body have ans please?????????/

You have changed your Timezone in Settings->System->Clock&Alarms->Home and have Home selected ?

And what about timezone on desktop? it seems like it refresh time from desktop but wrong...

I am having the exact same problem... Everytime I sync, It changes the time 1 hour back... This is driving me crazy!!!! Everytime I sync, I have to change the time back to its original time!!!

Rjp20 said:
I am having the exact same problem... Everytime I sync, It changes the time 1 hour back... This is driving me crazy!!!! Everytime I sync, I have to change the time back to its original time!!!
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This sounds like a daylight savings time problem.

It happened to me as well ... (I felt really dumb .. nut it happens )... untill I realized that the timezone on my desktop computer was not set properly... e.g. if the time zone is set +5 .. .when synced you will get +5h on your device

As i said...

After installing Faria's 3.3 ROM I am having the same problem on my wizard. AS is set not to update time & date automatically. I found a solution in the Artemis Forum, you have to set both "home" and "visiting" times the same. I just did this, and looks like it's working

British Summer Time

I thought Windows Mobile automatically changed to British Summmer time etc . Mine didn't last night .. Is it suposed to ? Thought it usd to

Mine did.
Did you select that option when you first set it up?

my guess is that you never told it to do this.
start|settings|phone|timezones - automatic change time zone and clock

Strange that is checked in the phone options . Do you mean at initial set up from hard reset ?

hrmmm. yours was clicked? I'd set the clock back to yesterday at 11:59 and watch what happens again.

The time zones option is not for daytlight savings. It is for the device to auto change timezone when you travel/roam... and it is most certainly not advised - as it changes all your appointment times too!
(And there;s threads on here saying it does other nasty things too).

Hi yea , just hard reset and done that ... Nothing

You can actually check the thing buy looking at the notification queue (at least for my WM5 HTC Wizard). You'll see an item on DST changing time. Do whatever you want, and see if that's noted there.

kireol said:
hrmmm. yours was clicked? I'd set the clock back to yesterday at 11:59 and watch what happens again.
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The time change happens at 0200 - the official changeover time.

Hmm , Ive hard reset ... Nothing .. Sorry what additional software do i need to see the notification queue

I would be interested in this too; mine didn't change over and in fact neither did my old WM 2003 Himalaya and it usually did

What version of the phone are you lads using?
Im using a Vario III and mine updated fine.

HTC Branded Tytn 11

i wonder if i can add problem to this,,,mine update fine..BUT my alarms still go off at the old time ie..7.00 am to get up is set to 7 but goes off at 6....
i am sure a hard reset will fix it , just wanted let you all know....

Text messages time stamp 1 hour behind.

I've tried a couple cooked roms, and to the best of my knowledge I didn't have this issue on my stock AT&T rom.
I've set my time zone to Moutain Time (-7), and the time on the today screen shows the correct time, but all my text messages show up with a time stamp exactly minus one hour, so 8:45pm is showing up as 7:45pm.
Can anyone tell me why this is?

jmacdonald801 said:
I've tried a couple cooked roms, and to the best of my knowledge I didn't have this issue on my stock AT&T rom.
I've set my time zone to Moutain Time (-7), and the time on the today screen shows the correct time, but all my text messages show up with a time stamp exactly minus one hour, so 8:45pm is showing up as 7:45pm.
Can anyone tell me why this is?
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not sure what exactly is the problem or if this will help, but when I do receive SMS from overseas, I get them with their time zone.
e.g. I am in Singapore (+8GMT) and I receive a message from Sydney (+10GMT), I will receive the message as 12pm, although its only 10am in Singapore.

I've been playing around with the time zone settings in the phone options and it's not helping. There is an option to automatically update time from the network but that hasn't fixed anything.
All texts I am receiving are from local GMT -7 time zone people, various cariers. I'm using AT&T if it helps anyone with any ideas.
Text messages are still being stamped one our behind.
It's hard to believe I am the only one suffering this. I haven't done anything other than try some different roms. I haven't done any special settings that I can imagine would cause this to happen.
-James

I'm pretty sure its due to daylight savings time which was supposed to be this weekend, but they backed it up to next weekend. AT&T still hasn't fixed this.

Having the same issue my txts are one hour ahead...

Where are you located? What time zone are you in?
If you force your phone into GSM/EDGE mode, it may fix the issue. Of course who wants that?
Call AT&T and complain. I've talked to HTC, they say they simply use the time stamp that comes from the network and it's not their fault.
It only seems to happen in 3G mode.
-James

All of my appointments are an hour off after DST change!

Please forgive me if this is being discussed elsewhere, but I skimmed through the Kaiser forum, and I didn't see anyone else mentioning this problem. My phone automatically reset the clock for DST yesterday, and looking through the calendar today all the appointments are an hour off. For example, my work schedule. On the day summary page it says I work 07:30 - 21:00 today, however when you click edit appointment it says 06:30 - 20:00. On Wednesday I have jury duty. On the day page it says that jury duty starts at 10:30, however it really starts at 9:30, and if I show up an hour late I am in contempt of court!
Is there a setting I am not aware of? When I click edit appointment it shows the correct time, but on the day page its an hour late. The thing that really bothers me is that since I have an erratic schedule at work I have it set to remind me an hour before, just in case I forget to set my alarm clock the night before. Today I got my 1 hour reminder while actually driving to work!
I am using the new Tilt ROM, details are in my signature.
Thanks, Jay

Update: I've been on the phone with AT&T tech support for 30 minutes now, and it still doesn't work right ...
-Jay

If you are saying the Today Screen Calendar is off by an hour, but the calendar inside the pda is ok; A soft reset should fix your issue.
We had a couple of Hermes and kaiser's with this issue yesterday.

Try the attached cab

Ok, I 've been transferred to HTC support from ATT, which is nice, I didn't have to call them myself, and the ATT rep explained my problem to them. There is a hotfix of this issue, I haven't tried it yet, but I figured I'd share. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949168
-Jay

eagle 1 said:
If you are saying the Today Screen Calendar is off by an hour, but the calendar inside the pda is ok; A soft reset should fix your issue.
We had a couple of Hermes and kaiser's with this issue yesterday.
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I've soft reset and took the battery out. I'm going to try the DST cab.
-Jay

WOW! Mine is too!
Didn't even notice.
All my calendar events were changed from 8am start to 9am start.
What the heck?!

Yeah, it's stupid daylight savings time. You have to download a patch from microsoft to fix it, can do it straight to the phone by going to www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile and hit the Update option. I don't really understand why it couldn't just be automatically sent thru the Windows Update option under Settings...talk about a frustrating issue though!

now the question is will it work with 6.1

I saw this coming days ahead because of my scheduling :S...
Anyways, what fixed for me was just fixing the time on my Kaiser, all but one (?) appointments switched back to the original time automatically. No extra cabs or tweaks.
Good luck with that.

I've tried running that patch, and after installing the cab, it resets the Tilt, and then when it comes back everything is still the same. I've tried switching to a different timezone, and then back (per the advice in the another thread) to no avail.
Jimmyv - what do you mean you "fixed" the time?
Jay, please keep us updated as to what you're finding out.

Jimmyy said:
I saw this coming days ahead because of my scheduling :S...
Anyways, what fixed for me was just fixing the time on my Kaiser, all but one (?) appointments switched back to the original time automatically. No extra cabs or tweaks.
Good luck with that.
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I tried resetting the clock, but the appointments were not effected. I just got back from lunch, I'm going to try the cab now.
-Jay

Keep in mind this is not, nor should it be considered, a permanent fix. I don't know what long-term problems this could cause, but I'll tell you how I got it to work for me.
1. (Not sure if this is needed, because it didn't seem to change anything) Install the 2008 DST update from Microsoft.
2. Make sure all your appointments are still set to their original times (As in, you didn't change the original hour so that it'd remind you with it's skewed view of reality )
2a. (You may not have to do this) Under the Phone options dialog (Settings -> Personal -> Phone), go to the 'Time Zones' tab, and uncheck 'Automatic change time zone and clock'.
3. Go to the clock settings dialog (Settings -> System -> Clock & Alarms) Set the time zone to the one an hour behind you (-6 to -7 is what I did)
4. Set the time, manually, an hour ahead. (In the system clock dialog, there are two options for time: Time zone, and time. Set the time zone an hour behind, then set the actual time an hour ahead.)
5. Enjoy. Your appointments should now be okay.
I do hope someone figures out what's really causing this, though, because I'm not keen on changing the time zone every time DST comes into effect.
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AT&T Tilt, running Custel 2.1 AT&T Chopped and Screwed with Custel Touch Fix.

Mine works fine.
Your time is pulled off the network. I don't see how this could cause a problem.

YEa... had this problem myself. Figured it was a good time to hard reset and reinstall since I had a crapload of stuff I didn't use anymore.

vena_wolf said:
Keep in mind this is not, nor should it be considered, a permanent fix. I don't know what long-term problems this could cause, but I'll tell you how I got it to work for me.
1. (Not sure if this is needed, because it didn't seem to change anything) Install the 2008 DST update from Microsoft.
2. Make sure all your appointments are still set to their original times (As in, you didn't change the original hour so that it'd remind you with it's skewed view of reality )
2a. (You may not have to do this) Under the Phone options dialog (Settings -> Personal -> Phone), go to the 'Time Zones' tab, and uncheck 'Automatic change time zone and clock'.
3. Go to the clock settings dialog (Settings -> System -> Clock & Alarms) Set the time zone to the one an hour behind you (-6 to -7 is what I did)
4. Set the time, manually, an hour ahead. (In the system clock dialog, there are two options for time: Time zone, and time. Set the time zone an hour behind, then set the actual time an hour ahead.)
5. Enjoy. Your appointments should now be okay.
I do hope someone figures out what's really causing this, though, because I'm not keen on changing the time zone every time DST comes into effect.
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That worked, but for appointments I entered today now are an hour early! I can't win.
-Jay

Rescue9 said:
YEa... had this problem myself. Figured it was a good time to hard reset and reinstall since I had a crapload of stuff I didn't use anymore.
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A hard reset wouldn't be bad, but I really don't want to re-enter all of my appointments. Otherwise I could fix it by just deleting all the appointments and re-entering them.
-Jay

Twenty4 said:
Mine works fine.
Your time is pulled off the network. I don't see how this could cause a problem.
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I think the problem is that 2 things are trying to do the same thing. The network is trying to adjust for DST and windows is trying to do it too. I wish there was a way to just turn off DST and let the phone manage the time.
-Jay

Jay2TheRescue said:
I think the problem is that 2 things are trying to do the same thing. The network is trying to adjust for DST and windows is trying to do it too. I wish there was a way to just turn off DST and let the phone manage the time.
-Jay
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I just had a brainstorm! I'm in the eastern time zone. (GMT -5) Indiana does not participate in DST. I switched my time zone to GMT-5 Indiana, and all my appointments are correct now. I'm leaving autoupdate time on the phone, so this should take care of itself, and the phone will manage the time changes.
-Jay

I just realized you do have to turn autoupdate time off to use my earlier method. Futhermore, due to the same problem, I'm not sure you're new method will work forever. The reason I had to turn autoupdate time off was because the network told my phone it was -not- in the -7 time zone. I think, after a little bit of time, it will tell you're phone it's not in Indiana and you'll be stuck with the same problem all over again. x.x I'm going to look at the registry for the clock/calendar integration and see if I can't find some hidden setting that'll stop the clock from messing with the appointments. I'm pretty new to this though, so don't bet on my finding something that'll work. Any help from someone smarter would be very much appreciated. ;D
Edit: Sadly, the only thing I could find that looks anywhere close to something in relation to this is the value TimeZoneInformation in HKLM\Time. I can't figure out how I'm supposed to edit that so that changing the time zone doesn't touch the appointments, though. I'm not even convinced it's possible. Anyone else know any registry values that might relate to this problem? I'm going to try and decompile the MS patch next to see if I can find any hints with what they did.. Even if it didn't work.

Wrong time

Hi
The clock on my htc tytn II keep displaying wrong time. I set the time but after few hours time is still the same . It has happened few times.
Any idea what's going wrong with it.
K

do you have the right time zone set?
If you do have the right timezone and it still changes, maybe your network time is off. Go to start, settings, phone and then the Time Zones tab on the bottom and uncheck "Automatic change time zone and clock."
Also sometimes when you sync your device with your pc it will set your device's time to you pc's time so check your pc time and time zone as well if it happens after you sync.

Thanks for the reply, I have unchecked "Automatic change time zone and clock" option but just to clarify the problem.
The time on the phone seems to stand still on random ocassions.
e.g. i normally set the alarm to wake up at 4:30 am everyday. The alram didn't go off today. When I suddenly woke up at 06:00 am and found the time on phone is 4:00 am . it felt good having 2 extra hours of sleep
It happened couple of times last year but this year so far 4 time already.
K

so is your time changing or getting stuck?
Is your entire device freezing or just your clock?
If its just your clock, i dont know what would be causing that. Try making sure all other programs are exited and/or do a soft reset before you go to bed.

clock is getting stuck.
phone works fine no problem, have been doing soft resets and after that it works fine for a day or two.
i guess i need to do sme more poking around to try to fig out what is causing the clock to get stuck.
thanks any ways.
K

Hi k_aftab,
i have the same problem.
have you find the cause of this problem?!
thanks

I have the same problem too...any fix?