Please forgive me if this is being discussed elsewhere, but I skimmed through the Kaiser forum, and I didn't see anyone else mentioning this problem. My phone automatically reset the clock for DST yesterday, and looking through the calendar today all the appointments are an hour off. For example, my work schedule. On the day summary page it says I work 07:30 - 21:00 today, however when you click edit appointment it says 06:30 - 20:00. On Wednesday I have jury duty. On the day page it says that jury duty starts at 10:30, however it really starts at 9:30, and if I show up an hour late I am in contempt of court!
Is there a setting I am not aware of? When I click edit appointment it shows the correct time, but on the day page its an hour late. The thing that really bothers me is that since I have an erratic schedule at work I have it set to remind me an hour before, just in case I forget to set my alarm clock the night before. Today I got my 1 hour reminder while actually driving to work!
I am using the new Tilt ROM, details are in my signature.
Thanks, Jay
Update: I've been on the phone with AT&T tech support for 30 minutes now, and it still doesn't work right ...
-Jay
If you are saying the Today Screen Calendar is off by an hour, but the calendar inside the pda is ok; A soft reset should fix your issue.
We had a couple of Hermes and kaiser's with this issue yesterday.
Try the attached cab
Ok, I 've been transferred to HTC support from ATT, which is nice, I didn't have to call them myself, and the ATT rep explained my problem to them. There is a hotfix of this issue, I haven't tried it yet, but I figured I'd share. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949168
-Jay
eagle 1 said:
If you are saying the Today Screen Calendar is off by an hour, but the calendar inside the pda is ok; A soft reset should fix your issue.
We had a couple of Hermes and kaiser's with this issue yesterday.
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I've soft reset and took the battery out. I'm going to try the DST cab.
-Jay
WOW! Mine is too!
Didn't even notice.
All my calendar events were changed from 8am start to 9am start.
What the heck?!
Yeah, it's stupid daylight savings time. You have to download a patch from microsoft to fix it, can do it straight to the phone by going to www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile and hit the Update option. I don't really understand why it couldn't just be automatically sent thru the Windows Update option under Settings...talk about a frustrating issue though!
now the question is will it work with 6.1
I saw this coming days ahead because of my scheduling :S...
Anyways, what fixed for me was just fixing the time on my Kaiser, all but one (?) appointments switched back to the original time automatically. No extra cabs or tweaks.
Good luck with that.
I've tried running that patch, and after installing the cab, it resets the Tilt, and then when it comes back everything is still the same. I've tried switching to a different timezone, and then back (per the advice in the another thread) to no avail.
Jimmyv - what do you mean you "fixed" the time?
Jay, please keep us updated as to what you're finding out.
Jimmyy said:
I saw this coming days ahead because of my scheduling :S...
Anyways, what fixed for me was just fixing the time on my Kaiser, all but one (?) appointments switched back to the original time automatically. No extra cabs or tweaks.
Good luck with that.
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I tried resetting the clock, but the appointments were not effected. I just got back from lunch, I'm going to try the cab now.
-Jay
Keep in mind this is not, nor should it be considered, a permanent fix. I don't know what long-term problems this could cause, but I'll tell you how I got it to work for me.
1. (Not sure if this is needed, because it didn't seem to change anything) Install the 2008 DST update from Microsoft.
2. Make sure all your appointments are still set to their original times (As in, you didn't change the original hour so that it'd remind you with it's skewed view of reality )
2a. (You may not have to do this) Under the Phone options dialog (Settings -> Personal -> Phone), go to the 'Time Zones' tab, and uncheck 'Automatic change time zone and clock'.
3. Go to the clock settings dialog (Settings -> System -> Clock & Alarms) Set the time zone to the one an hour behind you (-6 to -7 is what I did)
4. Set the time, manually, an hour ahead. (In the system clock dialog, there are two options for time: Time zone, and time. Set the time zone an hour behind, then set the actual time an hour ahead.)
5. Enjoy. Your appointments should now be okay.
I do hope someone figures out what's really causing this, though, because I'm not keen on changing the time zone every time DST comes into effect.
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Mine works fine.
Your time is pulled off the network. I don't see how this could cause a problem.
YEa... had this problem myself. Figured it was a good time to hard reset and reinstall since I had a crapload of stuff I didn't use anymore.
vena_wolf said:
Keep in mind this is not, nor should it be considered, a permanent fix. I don't know what long-term problems this could cause, but I'll tell you how I got it to work for me.
1. (Not sure if this is needed, because it didn't seem to change anything) Install the 2008 DST update from Microsoft.
2. Make sure all your appointments are still set to their original times (As in, you didn't change the original hour so that it'd remind you with it's skewed view of reality )
2a. (You may not have to do this) Under the Phone options dialog (Settings -> Personal -> Phone), go to the 'Time Zones' tab, and uncheck 'Automatic change time zone and clock'.
3. Go to the clock settings dialog (Settings -> System -> Clock & Alarms) Set the time zone to the one an hour behind you (-6 to -7 is what I did)
4. Set the time, manually, an hour ahead. (In the system clock dialog, there are two options for time: Time zone, and time. Set the time zone an hour behind, then set the actual time an hour ahead.)
5. Enjoy. Your appointments should now be okay.
I do hope someone figures out what's really causing this, though, because I'm not keen on changing the time zone every time DST comes into effect.
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That worked, but for appointments I entered today now are an hour early! I can't win.
-Jay
Rescue9 said:
YEa... had this problem myself. Figured it was a good time to hard reset and reinstall since I had a crapload of stuff I didn't use anymore.
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A hard reset wouldn't be bad, but I really don't want to re-enter all of my appointments. Otherwise I could fix it by just deleting all the appointments and re-entering them.
-Jay
Twenty4 said:
Mine works fine.
Your time is pulled off the network. I don't see how this could cause a problem.
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I think the problem is that 2 things are trying to do the same thing. The network is trying to adjust for DST and windows is trying to do it too. I wish there was a way to just turn off DST and let the phone manage the time.
-Jay
Jay2TheRescue said:
I think the problem is that 2 things are trying to do the same thing. The network is trying to adjust for DST and windows is trying to do it too. I wish there was a way to just turn off DST and let the phone manage the time.
-Jay
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I just had a brainstorm! I'm in the eastern time zone. (GMT -5) Indiana does not participate in DST. I switched my time zone to GMT-5 Indiana, and all my appointments are correct now. I'm leaving autoupdate time on the phone, so this should take care of itself, and the phone will manage the time changes.
-Jay
I just realized you do have to turn autoupdate time off to use my earlier method. Futhermore, due to the same problem, I'm not sure you're new method will work forever. The reason I had to turn autoupdate time off was because the network told my phone it was -not- in the -7 time zone. I think, after a little bit of time, it will tell you're phone it's not in Indiana and you'll be stuck with the same problem all over again. x.x I'm going to look at the registry for the clock/calendar integration and see if I can't find some hidden setting that'll stop the clock from messing with the appointments. I'm pretty new to this though, so don't bet on my finding something that'll work. Any help from someone smarter would be very much appreciated. ;D
Edit: Sadly, the only thing I could find that looks anywhere close to something in relation to this is the value TimeZoneInformation in HKLM\Time. I can't figure out how I'm supposed to edit that so that changing the time zone doesn't touch the appointments, though. I'm not even convinced it's possible. Anyone else know any registry values that might relate to this problem? I'm going to try and decompile the MS patch next to see if I can find any hints with what they did.. Even if it didn't work.
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I thought Windows Mobile automatically changed to British Summmer time etc . Mine didn't last night .. Is it suposed to ? Thought it usd to
Mine did.
Did you select that option when you first set it up?
my guess is that you never told it to do this.
start|settings|phone|timezones - automatic change time zone and clock
Strange that is checked in the phone options . Do you mean at initial set up from hard reset ?
hrmmm. yours was clicked? I'd set the clock back to yesterday at 11:59 and watch what happens again.
The time zones option is not for daytlight savings. It is for the device to auto change timezone when you travel/roam... and it is most certainly not advised - as it changes all your appointment times too!
(And there;s threads on here saying it does other nasty things too).
Hi yea , just hard reset and done that ... Nothing
You can actually check the thing buy looking at the notification queue (at least for my WM5 HTC Wizard). You'll see an item on DST changing time. Do whatever you want, and see if that's noted there.
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hrmmm. yours was clicked? I'd set the clock back to yesterday at 11:59 and watch what happens again.
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The time change happens at 0200 - the official changeover time.
Hmm , Ive hard reset ... Nothing .. Sorry what additional software do i need to see the notification queue
I would be interested in this too; mine didn't change over and in fact neither did my old WM 2003 Himalaya and it usually did
What version of the phone are you lads using?
Im using a Vario III and mine updated fine.
HTC Branded Tytn 11
i wonder if i can add problem to this,,,mine update fine..BUT my alarms still go off at the old time ie..7.00 am to get up is set to 7 but goes off at 6....
i am sure a hard reset will fix it , just wanted let you all know....
Hey!
I seriously need some help here. Toolbar clock keeps changing. Suddenly it is on time and then the next time I turn it on it might have gone back 2 hours.
Example.
I turn it on and the clock shows 15.34.
I check my calendar and turn it off (standby)
I turn it on again the next time, say after 30 min. The clock SHOULD show 16.04, but it might say 07.17.
Anybody had the same problem?
I tried calling out, send a message, etc. but the clock does not change. Sometimes it goes back to normal, ie. it displays the correct time without me doing anything, but today it has not and the time is still wrong.
This is seriously annoying. I use my phone as my watch and I need it to display the correct time at ALL times.
Thanks
Hi, helangen.
I had a similar problem involving time. I kept finding that every so often my appointments kept changing by an hour. Everytime I went to the clock settings it showed plus one hour. So changed it back and then it would do it again and change to a time zone ahead.
Under "settings/personal/phones" there is a tab that says time zones. this controls whether or not the phone changes the time zones and clock automatically.
Personally, i erased my phone using clear storage under "settings/system" and started a fresh making sure I choose the right time zone and regional settings first off. Then entered all my reoccuring appointments and restored a copy of my PIM with the latest version of PIMBACKUP. At least this saved me entering all my contacts and kept my sms and mms.
I then unticked the automatic option I mentioned earlier and have had not one time related problem since.
Don't know if this will help but it can't hurt to share as you never know..
diigibio (diigimatrix)
diigibio said:
Hi, helangen.
I had a similar problem involving time. I kept finding that every so often my appointments kept changing by an hour. Everytime I went to the clock settings it showed plus one hour. So changed it back and then it would do it again and change to a time zone ahead.
Under "settings/personal/phones" there is a tab that says time zones. this controls whether or not the phone changes the time zones and clock automatically.
Personally, i erased my phone using clear storage under "settings/system" and started a fresh making sure I choose the right time zone and regional settings first off. Then entered all my reoccuring appointments and restored a copy of my PIM with the latest version of PIMBACKUP. At least this saved me entering all my contacts and kept my sms and mms.
I then unticked the automatic option I mentioned earlier and have had not one time related problem since.
Don't know if this will help but it can't hurt to share as you never know..
diigibio (diigimatrix)
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Cheers. I'll give that a try. It's not that the clock just changes with an hour, but it is totally random how it changes. I might have to do a hard reset ;(
I can confirm that this solution worked. Thanks. Turned off the automatic timezone change and the clock have been correct for three days straight.
This has been bugging me for awhile now. If I start a program on my Tilt and then let it sit long enough for it to power off the screen automatically, when I press the power button to turn it back on, it always goes back to the Today Screen. Is there a way to have it resume the last program I had running instead? It is very annoying when reading a book on the device and I have to keep going back to the start menu to start it back up.
Search before you post!!!!!
Just for this time... I'll do it for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=11222661
I've been reading all of the Kaiser Posts and didn't see anything myself. I looked at the four results you have listed, and none of them appear to have a solution. Does that mean there is no solution?
try doing what one of the posts said
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leon100
May it's the setting 'Today timeout:' under Settings/Personal/Today/Items..."
there is a checkbox for turning the return to today timer off
and a dropdownbox to set it up if one wish to do so after a longer period
That setting was already set to 4 hours as it is the default, but no go. I do have a PIN setup due to my Exchange server at work, but it looked like people were still having the issue even without a PIN.
One of the threads said that several programs allow you to set this up, but none of the posts defined which programs would let you.
Eagle6990 said:
That setting was already set to 4 hours as it is the default, but no go. I do have a PIN setup due to my Exchange server at work, but it looked like people were still having the issue even without a PIN.
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yeah, i have PIN for exchange too. today screen cpl doesn't help either.
None of the threads mentioned here in post #2 provide a concrete solution, just speculations.
Adding to the speculation, I think this is a Windows Mobile 6 bug. I have a Treo 750 that never had this problem with the original WM5 ROM but it did with a WM6 beta ROM and it does with the official WM6 update. Now, my new Tilt also reverts to the Today screen, which is extremely annoying.
A related issue, if you set a hotkey in MediaPlayer to toggle the screen on or off while playing music, it also returns to the Today screen instead of MediaPlayer when you toggle the screen back on.
In this post there is an answer: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352839&page=3
The problem appears when you use a pin-code...
So, the only way today is to remove the pin-code from the lock-settings.
//T
Since I'm syncing to my corporate Exchange server with PIN enforced, I guess I'll have to live with it. I am interested in the poster from the linked thread that says only his Kaiser is having this issue with a PIN, but looks like nobody has a better answer so far. Next time I hard reset my phone I'll give this a try before I sync to the server and setup a PIN.
This is my first time using this site and it's great! I'm sorry for any stupid questions I ask that may have been answered somewhere else already. I have the ATT Tilt/HTC Kaiser 8925 and love it...recently the ringer randomly switches to vibrate. It does it sometimes when I'm using the calendar/appointments and sometimes when I haven't even touched it. I've seen tons of posts on HTC Home versions that affect it but I found (then lost) a thread that said something about about a Registry Edit you could to to fix it? Any help would be greatly appreciated or any other thoughts that may help fix this. I keep missing calls and it's driving me crazy!! Thanks so much!
i haven't searched yet, but mine will switch to any level, i keep it on vibrate while at work(Kohl's) and today it switched to loud while in my pocket and i didn't realize it till my VC started to read an extremely long text in front of my boss. fortunately he thought it was the coolest thing ever but he said it will never happen again or i'm fired(ass hole) but yeah i will post what i find when i search later
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i haven't searched yet, but mine will switch to any level, i keep it on vibrate while at work(Kohl's) and today it switched to loud while in my pocket and i didn't realize it till my VC started to read an extremely long text in front of my boss. fortunately he thought it was the coolest thing ever but he said it will never happen again or i'm fired(ass hole) but yeah i will post what i find when i search later
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Thanks so much for your help! Yeah, this is driving me crazy..pretty much every time I'm using the calendar/appointment fucntion, it switches automoatically to vibrate from ring and vibrate. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again!!!
Are you using a stock ROM?
Unless people have had the exact same problem, it's going to be hard to help you without more info on what software is on your device.
If it does happen to be a random occurrence, a hard reset usually fixes it.
i have a similar problem with my tilt
i have noticed this hapening on my tilt which is running duttys latest rom. its only been happening in the last fed weeks.
ive also noticed that sometimes the phone will ring for a couple of seconds then go into vibrate mode as well.
i found my problem to be the settings in spb phone suite. if you have any profiles set etc if you change the system settings spb phone suite will automatically change them back after like 10-20 minutes. hope this is a help to some people. but i was about to go crazy till i sat and stared long and hard at my phone and realized what could also be the problem. i no longer have the issue!
i think this happens when your profile is set to automatic... it takes your status from your calender (if you have set it to busy in some meeting) it will switch to vibrate and if there is nothing for you in the calender it switches to the normal mode.....
I had the problem, then I flashed to L26 v6 and no more problems.
gandotratushar said:
i think this happens when your profile is set to automatic... it takes your status from your calender (if you have set it to busy in some meeting) it will switch to vibrate and if there is nothing for you in the calender it switches to the normal mode.....
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*Dumb question, but how and where do you SET your PROFILE? There's tons of options on the phone, but I don't know of anywhere to change something that says profile from automatic to something else? Any info. on that would be great and I'll try your solution. I'd rather not do a hard reset if I can help it. Thanks!
Having the same issue. Saw this post:
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/board/message?board.id=cingular&message.id=69784
Not sure if it works yet, but good luck to others!
Mike
Looks like this might be due to HTC Home. It appears there is an update / fix:
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/ht...ugin-all-icons-coloured-clocks-1-package.html
Hi
The clock on my htc tytn II keep displaying wrong time. I set the time but after few hours time is still the same . It has happened few times.
Any idea what's going wrong with it.
K
do you have the right time zone set?
If you do have the right timezone and it still changes, maybe your network time is off. Go to start, settings, phone and then the Time Zones tab on the bottom and uncheck "Automatic change time zone and clock."
Also sometimes when you sync your device with your pc it will set your device's time to you pc's time so check your pc time and time zone as well if it happens after you sync.
Thanks for the reply, I have unchecked "Automatic change time zone and clock" option but just to clarify the problem.
The time on the phone seems to stand still on random ocassions.
e.g. i normally set the alarm to wake up at 4:30 am everyday. The alram didn't go off today. When I suddenly woke up at 06:00 am and found the time on phone is 4:00 am . it felt good having 2 extra hours of sleep
It happened couple of times last year but this year so far 4 time already.
K
so is your time changing or getting stuck?
Is your entire device freezing or just your clock?
If its just your clock, i dont know what would be causing that. Try making sure all other programs are exited and/or do a soft reset before you go to bed.
clock is getting stuck.
phone works fine no problem, have been doing soft resets and after that it works fine for a day or two.
i guess i need to do sme more poking around to try to fig out what is causing the clock to get stuck.
thanks any ways.
K
Hi k_aftab,
i have the same problem.
have you find the cause of this problem?!
thanks
I have the same problem too...any fix?