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Someone help if possible! My GPS on my Tilt was working perfectly with Google Maps and LiveSearch... but today i turned it on and it's locking onto a position about 500+ miles away. I have VisualGPS installed and it now is only locking onto a max of 3 satellites (but sees many more satellites) when it used to lock onto about 6+! It also thinks i'm at 57,000 feet and somewhere over the gulf of mexico when i'm currently in south carolina on a trip! I tried soft resetting about 5x and ran QuickGPS a few times as well... nothing has fixed it. Any suggestions?
did you install anything new or do anything major like settings or drop the phone?
Nope...it was working fine one day, and not working the next... phone wasn't dropped and no new software was installed and no settings were changed. Not sure if the chip is malfunctioning or not...but it does lock onto a location... the wrong location.... but it is consistently putting me in somewhere in alabama at the moment
Hi UTZorro
I can't really help you with your problem but I did notice on mine the other day that the satalites would drop in and out quickly and never lock onto more that 3. It was a very clear day with clear view of the sky. The co-ords were out by quite a long way because of it. The DOP was never very good. I restarted and it seemed to solve the problem but it wasn't a good sign. I know I hadn't dropped mine and the quickGPS data was current.
I also noticed that the voice in tomtom was all over the place.. I had to reinstall tomtom to fix the problem and put the voice on the main memory. At the time I thought it might be my 4GB SDcard but now I'm not so sure.
Dylan
Hi
Have you tried leaving it on for several minutes? GPS on these sorts of devices make several assumptions as they try to lock on quickly so you don't have to wait, sometimes that initial lock is wrong due to these assumptions. Either turn it on and leave for it around 10-15 minutes in clear view of the sky or try running QuickGPS, that may help.
I've had this happen now and again, just leaving it for several minutes to get a "proper" fix and all is well.
Regards
Phil
I saw the same problem, i was driving and according to my gps i was going 485 km/hr and i was "flying": above the sea. kept the copiliot log as thought it was funny
I rebooted my kaiser and it went back to normal
This randomly happens to me also on a Stock HTC rom. Not too often though so not a major problem.
Reboot fixes it ...
I had the same problem last week. I Soft reset the device and removed the battery before it booted back up. After about a minute I put it back in and it was OK again.
happens to me as well, soft reset solves the problem... also if you have your GPS app on your SD card removal fixes this as well, very peculiar problem
PhilipL said:
Have you tried leaving it on for several minutes? GPS on these sorts of devices make several assumptions as they try to lock on quickly so you don't have to wait, sometimes that initial lock is wrong due to these assumptions. Either turn it on and leave for it around 10-15 minutes in clear view of the sky or try running QuickGPS, that may help.
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I second this: I had strange behavior after a lockup and it took several tries with 10minute or so open-sky accesses to clear up:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1650269&postcount=31
Go sit on a park bench for 15 minutes or so with the GPS on and open in an app which shows the satellites in view - like TomTom/Mapopolis/whatever and see if you don't eventually get back up to the 7+ birds you normally get.
Good luck!
Richard
recently this error has been happening more frequently to me with TomTom, restarting doesnt seem to fix it all the time anymore... does anyone know what causes this? It constantly showes me somewhere in Ontario, Canada about 500 miles from where I actually am.
Is there a way to disable and re-enable the GPS chip via software similar to what a hard-reset does but without the 30 seconds+ downtime associated with the hard-reset?
This is being caused by Quick GPS. If you have not connected to the internet via Activesync for a while then when you first start your internal GPS or lose sat coverage it diverts to the last stored Quick GPS data for the most prominant 3 sats (they show up as full signal when you look a gps data in you mapping SW) that should be in your area.
Either sync at least every 5 days (on a PC with T'internet connection) or disable quick GPS and be patient for a lock.
Hope this helps.
Hi
I had the same problem, but it seems I found a solution.
I'm not 100% shure, but for what I remember I had this problem very often. like every time I was starting navigation it was wrong, so I had to soft reset - Everthing was fine - till next time when it was wrong again - and soft reset and again, again and agian.
It was so annoying - then on a Polish forum a guy wrote somethign about downloading quickGPS data (what he read here) and quickGPS was the solution, but for me it was to disalbe every sync function - because I set to sync evertime it was possible I believie that was it.
Now I'm using kaiser for about a week and testing it 2-3 times a day. and it never failed. I'm not 100% shure it was it - but it looks fine now.
So after a few days after I originally posted with this problem, it noticed it had spontaneously fixed itself after my flight back to town and I pinpointed what fixed it. (keep in mind i have stock Tilt Rom, QuickGPS was updated at the time (about 25x to be exact) and I had even hard resetted and it didn't fix it)... but here's what did fix it interestingly enough:
So, for some reason, if you have flight mode enabled on the phone, then you turn on the GPS (which I admit I did while bored midflight wondering how high up we were) it MAY get messed up like what happened to me. The only way to fix it is by putting the phone back in flight mode turning the GPS back on and then turning it off again and re-exiting flight mode. I have no idea why flight mode and the gps would be related in this siutation (it makes no sense to me)... I didn't believe it myself until I repeated this experiment twice!!! So, i'm posting this for reference to anyone who may have the same problem in the future if their phone was in flight mode and their GPS got activated and then subsequently messed up! Any thoughts?
Please forgive me if this is being discussed elsewhere, but I skimmed through the Kaiser forum, and I didn't see anyone else mentioning this problem. My phone automatically reset the clock for DST yesterday, and looking through the calendar today all the appointments are an hour off. For example, my work schedule. On the day summary page it says I work 07:30 - 21:00 today, however when you click edit appointment it says 06:30 - 20:00. On Wednesday I have jury duty. On the day page it says that jury duty starts at 10:30, however it really starts at 9:30, and if I show up an hour late I am in contempt of court!
Is there a setting I am not aware of? When I click edit appointment it shows the correct time, but on the day page its an hour late. The thing that really bothers me is that since I have an erratic schedule at work I have it set to remind me an hour before, just in case I forget to set my alarm clock the night before. Today I got my 1 hour reminder while actually driving to work!
I am using the new Tilt ROM, details are in my signature.
Thanks, Jay
Update: I've been on the phone with AT&T tech support for 30 minutes now, and it still doesn't work right ...
-Jay
If you are saying the Today Screen Calendar is off by an hour, but the calendar inside the pda is ok; A soft reset should fix your issue.
We had a couple of Hermes and kaiser's with this issue yesterday.
Try the attached cab
Ok, I 've been transferred to HTC support from ATT, which is nice, I didn't have to call them myself, and the ATT rep explained my problem to them. There is a hotfix of this issue, I haven't tried it yet, but I figured I'd share. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/949168
-Jay
eagle 1 said:
If you are saying the Today Screen Calendar is off by an hour, but the calendar inside the pda is ok; A soft reset should fix your issue.
We had a couple of Hermes and kaiser's with this issue yesterday.
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I've soft reset and took the battery out. I'm going to try the DST cab.
-Jay
WOW! Mine is too!
Didn't even notice.
All my calendar events were changed from 8am start to 9am start.
What the heck?!
Yeah, it's stupid daylight savings time. You have to download a patch from microsoft to fix it, can do it straight to the phone by going to www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile and hit the Update option. I don't really understand why it couldn't just be automatically sent thru the Windows Update option under Settings...talk about a frustrating issue though!
now the question is will it work with 6.1
I saw this coming days ahead because of my scheduling :S...
Anyways, what fixed for me was just fixing the time on my Kaiser, all but one (?) appointments switched back to the original time automatically. No extra cabs or tweaks.
Good luck with that.
I've tried running that patch, and after installing the cab, it resets the Tilt, and then when it comes back everything is still the same. I've tried switching to a different timezone, and then back (per the advice in the another thread) to no avail.
Jimmyv - what do you mean you "fixed" the time?
Jay, please keep us updated as to what you're finding out.
Jimmyy said:
I saw this coming days ahead because of my scheduling :S...
Anyways, what fixed for me was just fixing the time on my Kaiser, all but one (?) appointments switched back to the original time automatically. No extra cabs or tweaks.
Good luck with that.
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I tried resetting the clock, but the appointments were not effected. I just got back from lunch, I'm going to try the cab now.
-Jay
Keep in mind this is not, nor should it be considered, a permanent fix. I don't know what long-term problems this could cause, but I'll tell you how I got it to work for me.
1. (Not sure if this is needed, because it didn't seem to change anything) Install the 2008 DST update from Microsoft.
2. Make sure all your appointments are still set to their original times (As in, you didn't change the original hour so that it'd remind you with it's skewed view of reality )
2a. (You may not have to do this) Under the Phone options dialog (Settings -> Personal -> Phone), go to the 'Time Zones' tab, and uncheck 'Automatic change time zone and clock'.
3. Go to the clock settings dialog (Settings -> System -> Clock & Alarms) Set the time zone to the one an hour behind you (-6 to -7 is what I did)
4. Set the time, manually, an hour ahead. (In the system clock dialog, there are two options for time: Time zone, and time. Set the time zone an hour behind, then set the actual time an hour ahead.)
5. Enjoy. Your appointments should now be okay.
I do hope someone figures out what's really causing this, though, because I'm not keen on changing the time zone every time DST comes into effect.
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AT&T Tilt, running Custel 2.1 AT&T Chopped and Screwed with Custel Touch Fix.
Mine works fine.
Your time is pulled off the network. I don't see how this could cause a problem.
YEa... had this problem myself. Figured it was a good time to hard reset and reinstall since I had a crapload of stuff I didn't use anymore.
vena_wolf said:
Keep in mind this is not, nor should it be considered, a permanent fix. I don't know what long-term problems this could cause, but I'll tell you how I got it to work for me.
1. (Not sure if this is needed, because it didn't seem to change anything) Install the 2008 DST update from Microsoft.
2. Make sure all your appointments are still set to their original times (As in, you didn't change the original hour so that it'd remind you with it's skewed view of reality )
2a. (You may not have to do this) Under the Phone options dialog (Settings -> Personal -> Phone), go to the 'Time Zones' tab, and uncheck 'Automatic change time zone and clock'.
3. Go to the clock settings dialog (Settings -> System -> Clock & Alarms) Set the time zone to the one an hour behind you (-6 to -7 is what I did)
4. Set the time, manually, an hour ahead. (In the system clock dialog, there are two options for time: Time zone, and time. Set the time zone an hour behind, then set the actual time an hour ahead.)
5. Enjoy. Your appointments should now be okay.
I do hope someone figures out what's really causing this, though, because I'm not keen on changing the time zone every time DST comes into effect.
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That worked, but for appointments I entered today now are an hour early! I can't win.
-Jay
Rescue9 said:
YEa... had this problem myself. Figured it was a good time to hard reset and reinstall since I had a crapload of stuff I didn't use anymore.
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A hard reset wouldn't be bad, but I really don't want to re-enter all of my appointments. Otherwise I could fix it by just deleting all the appointments and re-entering them.
-Jay
Twenty4 said:
Mine works fine.
Your time is pulled off the network. I don't see how this could cause a problem.
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I think the problem is that 2 things are trying to do the same thing. The network is trying to adjust for DST and windows is trying to do it too. I wish there was a way to just turn off DST and let the phone manage the time.
-Jay
Jay2TheRescue said:
I think the problem is that 2 things are trying to do the same thing. The network is trying to adjust for DST and windows is trying to do it too. I wish there was a way to just turn off DST and let the phone manage the time.
-Jay
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I just had a brainstorm! I'm in the eastern time zone. (GMT -5) Indiana does not participate in DST. I switched my time zone to GMT-5 Indiana, and all my appointments are correct now. I'm leaving autoupdate time on the phone, so this should take care of itself, and the phone will manage the time changes.
-Jay
I just realized you do have to turn autoupdate time off to use my earlier method. Futhermore, due to the same problem, I'm not sure you're new method will work forever. The reason I had to turn autoupdate time off was because the network told my phone it was -not- in the -7 time zone. I think, after a little bit of time, it will tell you're phone it's not in Indiana and you'll be stuck with the same problem all over again. x.x I'm going to look at the registry for the clock/calendar integration and see if I can't find some hidden setting that'll stop the clock from messing with the appointments. I'm pretty new to this though, so don't bet on my finding something that'll work. Any help from someone smarter would be very much appreciated. ;D
Edit: Sadly, the only thing I could find that looks anywhere close to something in relation to this is the value TimeZoneInformation in HKLM\Time. I can't figure out how I'm supposed to edit that so that changing the time zone doesn't touch the appointments, though. I'm not even convinced it's possible. Anyone else know any registry values that might relate to this problem? I'm going to try and decompile the MS patch next to see if I can find any hints with what they did.. Even if it didn't work.
hi,
about 2-3 times this week, my tilt would go to sleep, but when i press the power button, it would not wake. i know there is still power because of the blinking green and bluetooth light. any suggestions on how to fix this?
I think that's the "Sleep of Death". Do a search for it. For me, I did a hard reset and it went away.
Good luck!
happens to me also. So annoying, next time it happens call yourself and see if the phone wakes up or if it jumps straight to voicemail, i'd like to know mines hasnt done it in a while. I think it happens when you have it plugged into the wall for a long period of time and its sleeping. Like that night when you're sleeping.
I've had that problem a few times but its mainly only when its on the charger at night that it happens. What I've been doing now is just not turning it off at night when its charging that way the alarm goes off in the morning. Some people don't like it on as the screens not completely off and the light drives them nuts.
are you within the 30 day period, as in a new contract? I am on my 4th phone, the three before this one all had the same problem not waking, hopefully you are not past the 30 days and can trade it in, you could always try installing the new ATT rom, it might fix your issue I have heard it helped some, if nothing else its worth a try.
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are you within the 30 day period, as in a new contract? I am on my 4th phone, the three before this one all had the same problem not waking, hopefully you are not past the 30 days and can trade it in, you could always try installing the new ATT rom, it might fix your issue I have heard it helped some, if nothing else its worth a try.
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Do youy use any other roms? Do you hard reset?
This happened for the very first time to me this week on my tytn 2. Fixed it by taking the battery out. Had my phone for 6 months.
my alarm didn't go off this morning for that very reason....good thing I have 2 other alarms...lol
I thought my problem was charging related, but I didn't charge it overnight...
I have had the same problems too , on my fourth phone now . What has seem to of helped was removing the micro sd card , doing a hard reset and for the last 4 days , had no further "sleeping" problems .
it would be interesting to find out whether you all have been using micro sd cards in your phones ( THIS COULD BE CAUSING THE PROBLEM) Or should I say a faulty sd card could be causing the problem .
also some interesting points regarding the same topic here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351404
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Do youy use any other roms? Do you hard reset?
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When I had the first three phones I was just typical "Joe Consumer" I had no idea about this website or any of the cool stuff I have learned here. So consequently I just knew there as a problem and it was pissing me off so I kept taking them back and swapping. If the 4th didn't work I was going to go with the iphone so I could have something to use when I travel to check email and other BS. But the 4th worked and all is well. Although sometimes i wish I would of got the Iphone just because of battery life and it is alot faster with applications than my phone at least. But I cant take that feeling of being in a Jail Cell every time I hold that thing...........
I am running stock O2 WM6 ROM on an O2 XDA Stellar with a whole host of applications (Batterystatus, SPB Pocket Plus, phone suite, weather, mobile shell, insight, time, Calendar++, HTC Task Manager, Large Menu, are "running" (ie today plugin or might have started) and I think I killed most other things before I went to bed) and my Kaiser has recently started to crash and I don't know why.
This morning I went to check my phone (which was on charge) and it wouldn't turn on (must have died between 4am and 8am). I hit the power button, then other buttons (just in case), tapped the screen, etc.... and get nothing. Finally whipped out the stylus, prodded the reboot button and waited for it to come back to me. This is the second or third time this has happened over the last two weeks, the other time I remember clearly was when I pulled it out my pocket to find it similarly unresponsive.
When it is restarted it boots happily and everything seems to be running/working fine, but it is kind of concerning that it completely locked up in the first place while I was not using it.
Does anyone know of a way this can happen? Are there any known conflicts that can cause it to lock up? Does WM keep logs somewhere to help track down problems?
i'm also having the same exact problem with my tilt. today i got to work late cause it crashed somewhere along the night and the alarm didn't ring. i woke up 10 minutes before my start time at work. lol. third time it happens in 3 weeks.
I have a Tilt, WM 6.0, and stock ROM and I had the exact same problem... drove me nuts. Have you enabled 'Wifi Standby Mode' using KasierTweak? I enabled that option and when my phone went to sleep with WiFi turned on, it would occasionally crash and refuse to wake up without hitting the reset button.
After disabling 'Wifi Standby Mode' the problem went away. If you have KasierTweak you'll see it listed under the 'Data' entry.
Just a thought. Hope that helps.
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After disabling 'Wifi Standby Mode' the problem went away. If you have KasierTweak you'll see it listed under the 'Data' entry.
Just a thought. Hope that helps.
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Nope, was disabled
Am thinking about it and when I was using Garmin for GPS last it rebooted on it's own and I can't get it to get a GPS lock any more. Am wondering if I have actually managed to break the hardware or if this is a symptom of a bigger problem.
Not really wanting to wipe the device, but it will happen when O2 release their ROM update
Thanks for your thoughts, was thinking people were just ignoring me (it's not iPhone/GUI related, so wasn't expecting many replies).
I had the same problem occuring every night, and this was driving me nuts as well.
I've tried many things, like configuring email updates only once a day, disabling wifi while asleep, removing other software that might try to connect to the internet regularly (weather, RSS...), rewrite completely the PhoneAlarm profile schedule parameters
Nothing worked.
I finally removed the PhoneAlarm night switch schedule, and has no problem since.
I'm not sure of this because the parameters has worked fine many month.
Could this help someone there ?
This sounds like the problem many have described as sleep of death or SOD for short. Might give a quick search on sleep of death and see what you can come up with. I cured mine by stopping activesync and comm manager before putting it to sleep.
hope this helps...james
Guys I think you may be Describing the "Sleep of Death." Here is a Thread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339792&highlight=Sleep+Death
It is also covered by another thread which has popped up
Standby of Death (SOD) with the Tytn II from Kaiser General (I joined that thread here).
If anyone wants to reply to this thread, please read and use both/either of these two threads (and if mods want to lock this one, that's fine by me).
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2 where the resolution was to change SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
Hi
The clock on my htc tytn II keep displaying wrong time. I set the time but after few hours time is still the same . It has happened few times.
Any idea what's going wrong with it.
K
do you have the right time zone set?
If you do have the right timezone and it still changes, maybe your network time is off. Go to start, settings, phone and then the Time Zones tab on the bottom and uncheck "Automatic change time zone and clock."
Also sometimes when you sync your device with your pc it will set your device's time to you pc's time so check your pc time and time zone as well if it happens after you sync.
Thanks for the reply, I have unchecked "Automatic change time zone and clock" option but just to clarify the problem.
The time on the phone seems to stand still on random ocassions.
e.g. i normally set the alarm to wake up at 4:30 am everyday. The alram didn't go off today. When I suddenly woke up at 06:00 am and found the time on phone is 4:00 am . it felt good having 2 extra hours of sleep
It happened couple of times last year but this year so far 4 time already.
K
so is your time changing or getting stuck?
Is your entire device freezing or just your clock?
If its just your clock, i dont know what would be causing that. Try making sure all other programs are exited and/or do a soft reset before you go to bed.
clock is getting stuck.
phone works fine no problem, have been doing soft resets and after that it works fine for a day or two.
i guess i need to do sme more poking around to try to fig out what is causing the clock to get stuck.
thanks any ways.
K
Hi k_aftab,
i have the same problem.
have you find the cause of this problem?!
thanks
I have the same problem too...any fix?