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Hi,
I've installed the latest AKU 3.2 Version on my Wizard.
Now i've wanted to downgrade to AKU 2.0 (with the original Loader Provided from "Vario_AKU2.0_05-2006.exe") and the tool tells me it is not possible. Is there a way to make it run?
Thanks a lot
It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..
Nobody warns ??????????????????????????
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.
mforce said:
It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..
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There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...
Dr Puttingham said:
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.
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Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
vseehua said:
There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...
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I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..
Possible solution
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).
mforce said:
Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..
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If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. I've done it my Cingular 8125 and it's 3 replacement PDA's numerous times. In addition I've downgraded at least 20 phones to 1.05 so's I could unlock and then upgrade. And then done it again. If you follow faria's instructions that is.... Now I HAVE had to flash the 1.05 twice to get the SPL down to 1.05. Humor us huh?
Note: I realize that Faria says that it doesn't work above 2.21 but I have performed this procedure on at least a dozen "out of the box" Cingular 2.25's. Downgrade to 1.05. Extract lokiwiz to the root of your C drive. Copy enablerapi.cab to your device (I know that you've unlocked your device, just indulge me please ) Execute enablerapi.cab from your PDA. get to a Dos prompt and run lokiwiz from the C prompt. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!
Dr Puttingham said:
If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!
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Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..
Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan
A2Z said:
Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..
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Great! it works
stefan1975 said:
Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan
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This one.. (flash it 2 times!)
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Seppl82 said:
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).
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Does NOT work, thnx anyway
I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)
Downgrading/Upgrading
Dr P. or anyone else,
I've seen "somewhere on this board" a description of how to flash "any rom" without having to downgrade to 1.05, it stated to change the .exe file to a .rar and then change the ruu file to one that is not looking for the current phone status. I've tried that and have not had success in doing so. IF there is infact a way to do this, could someone please provide a blow by blow scenario to accomplish it?
Thanks,
vpu2
HighVoltage said:
I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)
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Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....
Dr Puttingham said:
Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....
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Hi Guys,
I tried everything but it doesn't help das anyone had another option?
Thanks
could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.
Dr Puttingham said:
could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.
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I tried everything what everybody said in this post.
Mr hokkie, please humble me and document exactly what device you own and your exact IPL/SPL/OS/GSM versions. Beacuase I just don't think that you've got in in ya to be my first failure. Show me what you got
I own a Dutch MDA Vario from T-mobile, which has a T-mobile SIM-lock. I want to remove the SIM-lock, so I tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474&page=1. Unfortunately it returned an error, it appears I have a 2.21 ROM, so I want to downgrade the rom, which brought me to this thread.
I've downloaded the CUSTOM_RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe, and ran it. I get the first few screens (the caution-screen, the prepare-screen, the Update screen, the verify screen and the last screen). After that I get the screen where a percentage bar should start moving. My phone-screen is now divided in about four horizontal parts.
The first one is red-fading to black, and it reads RUU on the top-right, and the line below it reads IPL 2.21.0001. The last line in this part reads SPL 2.21.0001.
The second part is similar to the first, but it is green, without any text. The third part is similar to the green one, except it's blue.
The last part is smaller than the previous parts, it's plain white (about two lines high) and reads USB.
On my PC I get a screen telling me:
ERROR[300]: INVALID UPDATE TOOL
This Udate Uility cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get newer Update Utillity.
What am I doing wrong here? (BTW: I'm a computer-expert and a phone-noob)
By the way, the verify screen reads:
From:
Model ID: WIZARD
Image Version: 1.2.0.0
Language: ENGLISH
To:
Model ID: Prodigy
Image version:
Language: WWE
I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.
177media said:
I am pulling my hair out here...
I have an 8125, with the following
Sim Carrier and Rom = T-Mobile
IPL/SPL=3.08
GSM=01.12.10
OS=1.5.4.2
Rom Version=1.5.4.2 WWE
Radio Version 01.12.10
I followed the two main tutorials on how to SIM and CID unlock, got both my IPL and SPL to match, flashed in the TMo Rom and thought all was good.
Now I was poking around and see that it is not a 2.26 rom that is on there but it is a 1.5.4.2. So what do I do, I go to
http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
to get the Mobile MDA Software Version (2.26.10.2)
and when I run the file that gets downloaded, it gives me a
ERROR [296] : UPGRADE ONLY
Now, does it see that the phone is infact not an MDA and is a 8125 and does not like it?
So now from this point, (I have done my research and forum search, and RTFM many times so pleae dont blast me) what do I need to do to get the updated 2.26 rom, and eventually get up to the WM6.
I appreciate all the help, as I am seriously ready to have phone meet wall.
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You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?
Zzan said:
You have already flashed newer bootloaders that 2.26. You have 3.08. Why do you need to go back to 2.26? IF you are CID unlocked (did you take your bootloaders down to 1.xx then run lokiwiz, and then bring them up to 3.08?) you should be able to flash your WM6 rom now. Have you tried?
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I think he upgraded the IPL/SPL alone from button's 1.01 and now can't flash any ROM since 3.08 can't handle 1.5 OS.
My advise is to flash IPL/SPL 1.01 and from there flash a 2.26 but... there are a lot of people mentioning IPL 3.08 and SPL 1.xx meaning that IPL won't allow to downgrade. I think it's up to him...
my understanding is that you shouldn't be going to an ipl/spl of 3.xx unless you are flashing from an ipl/spl of 2.xx. (based on thread information from old roms of molski and faria, last days of wm5 roms).
if possible, you should try to reflash back to 1.05 (i think they were customized so you shouldn't have problems).
official t-mobile roms won't let you downgrade to my understanding...at least not from one official t-mobile to another official (3.08 --> 2.26 or 2.26 -->1.80).
so...retry to flash buttons 1.05, then move up to 2.26...and then if you really want to flash again to 3.08.
That is exactly what I figured out last night.
When I RTFM where it says EDIT STEP 17: Flash to 3.08 .......
I took that as a instad of thinking that it contained the 2.16 rom as well as the IPL/SPL upgrades.
So I went through reflashed both back down to buttons 1.05 and then reflashed back up to 2.26 and then to WM6, everything is dandy and it is all becuase of the wonderful people here. I can not say it enough. This place is the greatest! And thank you all yet again.
I'm glad you managed to save your phone. Not many these days by counting the number of "Help" threads
Can i ask you to please give something back to the forum? please check my signature and visit the "Data crashes" solution thread. Tx
Definitly will.
I have read the guides to unlocking and from what I see there are none that work on 3.xx SPL/IPL. I was able to downgrade the IPL but never the SPL.
I have seen several threads that say if you flash button rom (several times) it will eventually downgrade the SPL also, but all night as I worked I flashed the button ROM (about 12-15 times) and still can't downgrade the SPL from the 3.08, only IPL goes to 1.01
Tried the original Cingular ROM and it isn't accepted (I think because I have a higher SPL than the original 2.26), tried using the ShellTool, Tried SoftSPL too but none worked.
IS THERE A WAY TO DOWNGRADE THE 3.08 SPL SO THAT I CAN USE THE LOKIWIZ02 OR LOKIWIZ03. I saw a thred saying that 3.08 can't be downloaded but I also saw SEVERAL saying to just keep insisting with the Button rom that it will eventually work (but after almost 15 consecutive tries I've had it).
Any help would be GREAT.
thanks
MGF
IPL 1.01
SPL 3.08
GSM 1.12.10
OS 1.5.4.2
Button ROM doesn't work for that. I tried numerous times too. The only ROMs that work to downgrade to anything else from 3.08 are the OEM releases from either T-Mo or AT&T.
The Cingular ROM isn't accepted because it checks the OS version number. I had to try several peoples' ROMs until I found one with a low enough version number to where the Cingular ROm could flash on top of it.
Try to flash T-Mobile 2.26 to bring it down to ipl/spl 2,26 then go for button's 1.05,hope it'll do the trick.
Good luck
p.s. you can try the wizard_love_Rom also,lol
I want to downgrade my phone, too. but the original T-Mobile AKU2.0 say while reading the phones ROM-Version "only update"... so, with this no downgrade is possible.
How can i CID unlock with AKU3? I want to flash a new ROM from xda-developer as well... damn
Regards
Thomas
You could probably extract the nk.nbf and use the standard tools to flash it.
The nk.nbf can usually be found in a .tmp folder in c:\documents and settings\yourname\Local Settings\Temp
Thanx for your Hint... but which "Standard-Tool" should i use?
Sorry for this silly question, but i am new in experience with my vario
imate kjam
hello, i am new enterent on this forum and need help for, have imate kjam G3 IPL/SPL 1.xx os 1.1.9.3 device and i want to upgrade with latest WM 5 SE 3.8.2.1. Can i upgrade this OS without facing any prb i.e CID/sim locked prb??? kindly adivice to me what is the right way to upgrade my imate kjam (t-mobile) thank you.
best regards
farry
Unless you are using official kjam update, otherwise please CID unlock your G3 device first, or you will face problems.
thank u for advice, but how to CID unlock first before upgrade the rom, any tool for apply to unlock?? plz help
regards
farry
hi all..My MDA VARIO IPL is 1.01 and SPL is 2.26.I flashed MDA 2 times with Button Rom but no changes happend with SPL and its same.I want to upgrade my MDA to the latest Rom available with WM5.Now m stuck with my phone and dont know excatly wat to do.I downloaded the latest Rom from T-Mobile website and try to install but it gives me error i.e "249 Invalid Vendor ID ".
Plz need urgent help in this matter.Regards
You may try to unlock first, then reflash again and SPL should also stay at 1.01.
I beg to differ. When I CID Unlocked My G3 USA T-Mobile MDA, the SPL never Changed until I flashed it with the 3.08 IPL/SPL.
I just proceeded with the upgrade and everything went fine.
Umm...
That's just my experience. My Wizard was unlocked this way.
There may be many undiscovered solutions.
dharvey4651 said:
I beg to differ. When I CID Unlocked My G3 USA T-Mobile MDA, the SPL never Changed until I flashed it with the 3.08 IPL/SPL.
I just proceeded with the upgrade and everything went fine.
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How did you CID unlock? Via imei-check's? Or your bootloaders were already 1.xx?
i've installed now Button Rom but still my IPL is 1.01 and SPL is 2.26 which is same as it was before with T-mobile Rom.Anyone can guide how to downgrade my SPL.Also how to chek whether my Phone is CID unlocked now? I run lockiwiz and i think its CID unlocked now but still wana confirm.
OK..finally i got IPL and SPL same i.e 1.01.Now m going for the next step...
ahmeed80 said:
OK..finally i got IPL and SPL same i.e 1.01.Now m going for the next step...
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Use WST, is easier and safer...
mestrini said:
How did you CID unlock? Via imei-check's? Or your bootloaders were already 1.xx?
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To CID unlock my G3 USA T-Mobile MDA, I simply used the tutorial [READ FIRST] The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards and followed the instructions to the letter.
When I received my device, it was a factory shipped USA T-Mobile MDA with IPL/SPL of 2.26.
I flashed the button ROM giving me an IPL of 1.05 but leaving my SPL untouched.
I installed EnableRapi.cab and soft-reset.
I connected as a guest by canceling synchronization.
I downloaded lokiwiz and ran lokiwiz.bat and pressed U to SIM unlock my device and let it reboot itself.
I once again canceled synchronization leaving my device connected as a guest, ran lokiwiz.bat and this time pressed C to CID unlock my device and let it reboot itself.
I used WST to check to see if my device was in fact CID unlocked and it was.
This time I allowed my device to synchronize with my PC when it connected and then proceeded to flash the T-Mobile Official WM5 Rom directly after completing the unlocking process and it went smoothly.
Then I flashed the IPL/SPL set of 3.08 and that went smoothly.
Then I flashed the 2.19.11 T-Mobile UK Radio and again, that went smoothly.
After all of that was completed, I experimented with new ROMs for a while until finally settling for TNT.1437 TouchFlo using the 2.19.11 Radio and never had any problems the whole time.
Everything went so smooth that I thought about writing another tutorial that was simple and to the point describing the process that I used and detailing how to do it since all of the tutorials here are very complex and can be confusing to a noobie flashing for the first time but never got around to it.
I have a TMO MDA that was stuck at SPL 2.26 and now 3.08. I never had this problem before having successfully CID unlocked one TMO MDA and 2 AT&T 8125s in the past. I had the stuck SPL problem, but lokiwiz was able to CID unlock them anyway. This time lokiwiz2b doesn't work.
I have tried button ROM many times, Wizard Love, followed all the tutorials, and even tried flashing ROMs with IPL/SPL only and my SPL was stuck at 2.26 while IPL would change. I even made custom nbf files with nb2nbf and setting the CID as appropriate, but it made no difference so even having the correct CID in the nbf results in not being able to write to the flash. After messing around with it for about 8-hours, I got desperate thinking about once I flashed an 8125 to IPL/SPL 3.08 before unlocking it, and how its SPL was stuck at 3.08, but lokiwiz worked on it anyway. So as a last ditch effort, I updated to IPL/SPL to 3.08, reflashed button ROM, and tried lokiwiz. Nope, didn't work! So I think fine, I'll reflash TMO shipping ROM. I got an error "Upgrade Only, use a newer nbf". I had this problem with an 8125 before after flashing TNT whose OS was 6.0-something, but I downgraded to button ROM and could flash the OEM no prob, now it won't take the OEM and I'm on button 1.5.x. Weird! I tried other ROMs and no go. I am stuck on button ROM!
Anything else I can try? I'm guessing SPL won't downgrade, I actually thought about taking SPL 1.0x and hex-editing the version number to 3.09 or something like that so it can overwrite 3.08, but is there a checksum that needs to be computed?
Nevermind! I got an old version of lokiwiz to work. I don't know the "why" behind it, but here's what I did:
Remembering when I unlocked my other Wizards, I used lokiwiz on a Vista machine, I went back to the same Vista machine. It had the same old version of lokiwiz still on it. I tried that lokiwiz, and it was able to CID unlock my MDA that was stuck on SPL 3.08 and IPL 1.01. Now all is well. I don't know what version of lokiwiz it was, but it's an older one downloaded around October '07. I don't know if the machine being Vista is significant, but I doubt it.
So I guess if your SPL is stuck on too high of a version, use an older lokiwiz and it just might work!
ITS ALIVE!
GnatGoSplat said:
Nevermind! I got an old version of lokiwiz to work. I don't know the "why" behind it, but here's what I did:
Remembering when I unlocked my other Wizards, I used lokiwiz on a Vista machine, I went back to the same Vista machine. It had the same old version of lokiwiz still on it. I tried that lokiwiz, and it was able to CID unlock my MDA that was stuck on SPL 3.08 and IPL 1.01. Now all is well. I don't know what version of lokiwiz it was, but it's an older one downloaded around October '07. I don't know if the machine being Vista is significant, but I doubt it.
So I guess if your SPL is stuck on too high of a version, use an older lokiwiz and it just might work!
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I cant believe it.. IT WORKED! SPL @ 3.08 and i unlocked using lokiwiz .2b!! flashed the WM6 ROM and am happily lost in wonderland!!
Thanks man!
Z
p.s. somebody friggin sticky this!
That's pretty cool that you got 2b to work. I tried that version and it wouldn't work, I actually had to go older than 2b.
I know this thread has been dead for a while but this worked for me too lokiwiz .2b on a TMO MDA, that might give hope to someone else who's trying. I just had to redo the whole flash unlock dance about 4 times, but it finally worked. oh yea and Vista almost bricked the damn thing so i suggest doing the xp steps they seem to be more widely tested.
There's still another very fine option,in case its not possible to downgrade SPL to 1.xx and if its a mismatch.
"WST_2.2" tool has proved very successful in CID unlocking,but IPL 1.xx is eseential.