OK, a word from the DOC.... to the wise ...
If one has successfully unlocked their G3 device they won't be complaining that their device doesn't have the themes, ringers, little tweaks and proggies installed by the extended ROM as these things will be installed...
Vippie has prepared a nice tutorial named Howto flash a Wizard... a little tutorial! that is a "must read" IMO, please take the time!
jpmche has published an unlocking guide for our Spanish only amigos here at [Favor de Leer antes de Preguntar] La guia en Español para Des-bloquear el Wizard
mestrini recommends saving your CID block that is backed up when running the Lokiwiz tool. Lokiwiz will save it as a bin file and it is useful if you encounter a "Data Crashes. Please contact your service center" error. Please take a look at his thread.
btw, a G4 PDA will report an IPL and SPL similar to 2.21.0001 and a G3 PDA will report something similar to 2.21 (notice the G3 doesn't have the trailing .0001!)
Read between the lines here... almost ALL the postings of problems posted in the ROM threads are directly due to people not truly unlocking their device.
In the real world there is a phrase ... RTFM, loosely translated to "Read The Freak'n Manual"... Faria in particular took pains to create a manual for unlocking G3 devices. I've personally unlocked probably close to 50 Cingular 8125's and a few T-Mobiles. I've seen PROBABLY every situation with a G3 device here.
A couple of things...
1st - Most of the custom ROM's here require that your device be CID unlocked.
2nd - CID unlocking, as well as flashing a custom ROM, will void your warranty.
3rd - There is always the chance, even after all precautions are taken, that you might brick your device. This, however, is extremely unlikely unless you have a G4 PDA and attempt this.
4th - Please don't cross post. This particular thread was "stickied" to keep it at the top where noobies can see it and veterans can attempt to help. My attempt with this thread is to alleviate the posting of obvious CID unlocking problems in the chef's threads so that they can concentrate on perfecting their ROM and not answering questions that have been already been answered countless times before and really have nothing to do with their ROM.
5th - Faria and I reference the Button 1.05 ROM. You DO NOT have to use the 1.05 to unlock your device but you may instead use an official 1.x ROM (Lokiwiz .2b only works with 1.x ROM's) if it will allow you to downgrade to it. Often, however,the only way to downgrade to an official 1.x ROM is to downgrade to the 1.05 first... catch-22.
6th - This technique is the best way to downgrade a device to a previous version, for instance when you need to return to an official "shipped" ROM for warranty reasons.
PLEASE take the time to read all the way through this before making the decision to unlock your phone. We are not responsible for you bricking your device.
If you have a G3 device and follow Faria's instructions, which I only repeat time after time, you WILL have a working device..... no ****!
If you have a G4 device DO NOT FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS, YOU WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE!!
Also, if you DO have a G4 Wizard, please do NOT post anything here regarding how to unlock your device. This is for G3's only, please start your own thread...
So... being that my friend Faria's primary language isn't English (though he has a better mastery of it than many of my fellow Americans...) I'll expound on it ONE LAST TIME ...
Please do not use the PC for anything, including browsing the internet, checking email, playing freecell, or anything while this is happening! Have nothing going on in the background.
mestrini advises (and I agree!)
I've come to realize that many "NO COMMUNICATION" errors are due to low voltage battery so i think it would be good to include in your guide to have a full (or almost) battery before using any RUU.
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1. Glance through Faria's original thread on this (he wrote the book!!)
2. Download Button's 1.05 ROM at RapidShare or Badongo
3.. Downgrade your ROM to the Button 1.05. Let it go through the whole setup please...
Note: If your device fails at 98% with a 302 error follow Vippie's advice and try the Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 instead.
4. Download lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker UPDATE Version 0.2b
5. Extract the afore mentioned file to the root of your C drive. Do NOT extract to a folder with spaces...
6. Open Activesync WITH YOUR DEVICE NOT CONNECTED! and delete your partnership.
7. Connect your device and cancel the partnership. (You're a guest )
8. Open ActiveSync, Explore and copy enablerapi.cab from your PC's C:\ (remember that's where you extracted lokiwiz to...) to you device, I don't care where.
9. Pick up your PDA, File Explorer, find the enablerapi.cab and click it.
10. (Back to your PC) ... <Start> <Run> <cmd> <Enter> to give you a most wonderful MS Dos prompt (be afraid, VERY afraid!)
11. In the MS Dos box (mouses not allowed!!!) type "CD\" <enter> (no quotes)
12. Type "lokiwiz.bat" <enter> (Actually, if you have XP, type lok then <tab> it SHOULD complete the filename, YMMV.
13. You will see a screen that has ...
U. Unlock
L. Lock
C. CID Unlock (SuperCID)
Q. Quit
14. Hit the U key on your PC and press <Enter> ... your PDA WILL REBOOT upon completion !!!!!!!
15. Wait for your PDA to reboot, rerun the lokiwiz batch file (if you hit the up arrow key twice on your keyboard it will retype "lokiwiz", then hit <Enter>) then hit the C key on your PC and press <Enter> ... YOUR PDA WILL REBOOT UPON COMPLETION !!!
(if your Pocket PC Phone does NOT reboot each time, you didn't do it right! Stop and make that work, trust me!, then go on)
16. Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking.
17. My suggestion, take for what it's worth, is to download and install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM
This will give you a strong 2.26 IPL and SPL to work with.
Now you SHOULD have a IPL and SPL of 2.26 to work with. If not, you screwed up! Don't attempt to install someone's hard work and ***** before you do these steps!
EDIT for Step 17 - Download and install the 3.08 IPL/SPL rather than the 2.26, your choice! (I suggest doing the T-Mobile 2.26 first but that's me
IF, by chance your device hangs and never completes the flash (always give it a LOT of time, with no programs running, hopefully after a fresh reboot of your computer) you'll be stuck in (hopefully) the bootloader screen. It's very scary (at least to me the 4 or 5 times my own custom ROM's have been bad) all is not lost. Each time (after trial and error) I was able to restore. If this happens reboot your PC and then rerun the Button 1.05. It will act like it doesn't see it at first but have faith! I've tried this by using various provider's shipped ROMs and it always tell me it can't communicate. But, if I reboot, the 1.05 has always worked.
If you still have issues, uninstall ActiveSync. REBOOT! Download and install ActiveSync 4.5 Don't create a partnership. Try to run the 1.05 again.
Also a good idea is to delete your Windows temp folder. With XP this is typically
"C:\Documents and Settings\PC User's Logon Name, whatever that is\Local Settings\Temp" (Show hidden files need to be checked)
Most of you can paste this into your "RUN" box and click OK
cmd /k del "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Local Settings\Temp" /s/q/f
(type exit and hit enter when it completes)
Also, a good idea is to close all apps, shell to a command prompt by clicking <RUN>, typing cmd and clicking OK. A nice black MS Dos box awaits. Type CHKDSK/F and enter. Then type Y and hit enter. Type exit and hit enter. Reboot your PC and let it go through the data integrity test. Try again.
A last note. If you DO ever go back to the 1.05 ROM for any reason you need to repeat the lokiwiz steps as you won't be able to install a 2.x IPL/SPL bootloader.
A last disclaimer
Faria originally posted this unlocking technique using Button's 1.05 and machinagod's lokiwiz 0.2b. I have merely attempted to simplify the steps.
Final note
Microsoft has asked that all ROM's be removed from the FTP and we have complied. I have searched the internet and found the Button 1.05 and T-Mobile ROM's and updated the links here. Thanks to whoever posted the Button 1.05!
Enjoy!
awesome guide, and i just want to thank you guys for doing so much for the community
Great job Dr. P. and real wise words!
Regards,
Molski
Can this thread be stickied?
If anyone wants it, i think i might want to write a thread for newbies later... just to point them to the right direction...
vseehua said:
Can this thread be stickied?
If anyone wants it, i think i might want to write a thread for newbies later... just to point them to the right direction...
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Yeah, this thread should be stickied....and XDA-Dev should make me a mod of this forum, so I could delete every cid-unlocking question
Molski
great post !
bravo doc !
Thanks guys!
faria said:
i also sugested that applying new members should not be able to post when registred ,they shoud waith a week or more ,therefore forcing them to read ,in order to fix their problems.this i belive would make the forum wizer and allot cleaner by simlpy applying that rule.
what do you think guys?
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Having read varios forums I don't think that would cure the problem. The best solution I think would be as Molski suggested in having moderators with the ability to delete repeating questions. My own suggestion would also be to give people of a certian level (ie: senior member) the ability to start and moderate thier own threads, therefore giving you the ability to keep a thread on topic.
faria said:
thanks steve for the kind words.
i for one i m not coming back untill there is some clean up in his forum,
the admin has contact me and said they are looking at the issue.since this is a non paid jod and everyone got lives it could be a very long while.
i also sugested that applying new members should not be able to post when registred ,they shoud waith a week or more ,therefore forcing them to read ,in order to fix their problems.this i belive would make the forum wizer and allot cleaner by simlpy applying that rule.
what do you think guys?
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First...great job Dr. P Although you have typed the same thing many times before. I know I read them all.
Now... I agree with what Jose has said here. I for one spent a long time reading and learning before I felt comfortable messing with my phone and I work with software and hardware for a living. Many of the new owners of these phones come on here and jump in with both feet and then the trouble starts. Perhaps Molski should be a mod on this forum, it might help (Molski i will tell you now it is a thankless job.) at least then things would be cleaner around here. I know that everyone has other jobs but couldn't troublemakers be banned sooner than they are and is it really that hard to block an IP? I'm done rambling besides i have to get back to work.
Kirby
Wooh everyone's back at least to offer their 2 cents and Dr. Puttingham, we Americans do speak good ole English maybe colo(u)red sometimes . Faria thanks for commenting. Molski keep up the good work and Summiter, please reach out. This place is not going to be the same without you folks.
Any idea, on how to downgrade a rom back to the original one? My phone needs to be shipped back to TMobile, and i can't get it back to the original T-Mobile NL rom?
Sgele said:
Any idea, on how to downgrade a rom back to the original one? My phone needs to be shipped back to TMobile, and i can't get it back to the original T-Mobile NL rom?
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To my knowledge Button's 1.05 is lower than any provider's shipping ROM so you shouldn't have any problem "upgrading" to your official shipped ROM. I've personally taken 3 Cingular 8125's back to the shipped 1.08 this way to return to Cingular.
Good luck!
My apologies to Dr. P and all the senior members. I was one of those guys that were constantly asking the repeated question. I got it straightened out now. Both of my MDA's are unlocked and working perfect. Thank you all so much for all your help.
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Just an idea - do we all have to have open PM and email. If we could have PM or email only on invite or something, the good people here could get some peace, and everyone had to ask on the forum, where everyone else (at least some of you) can give an answer. We still have to have some moderators i think, but you didnt have to answer hundreds of PMs and emails.
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Yes this is off topic. Please don't hijack this thread with issues not directly related to unlocking G3 devices...
Which is precisely what has the folks angry, the threads going in different directions than what was intended.
No offense meant.
Im sorry. I guess that applies to faria, andy_morgan, rkwhyte2, and brando457 too, who was off topic before me. I am new here, and saw the discussion went off topic, but when they did it, I thought it was ok. Sorry again. Im learning, and it will not happen again.
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Im sorry. I guess that applies to faria, andy_morgan, rkwhyte2, and brando457 too, who was off topic before me. I am new here, and saw the discussion went off topic, but when they did it, I thought it was ok. Sorry again. Im learning, and it will not happen again.
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Yes it does but as I said, no hard feelings. (I'll deal with the others in my own way )
Great job
This guide is to good for words... Even my mother can now CID Unlock a Wizard
Thx Dr. P and the rest.
..im wondering if we should include screen shots along with this?! what do you guys think
Did anybody unlock phone in this way?
Im afraid from "brick" of my phone!
..wow are u serious?
Related
I have a newly bought Cingular 8125 in India. I would love to Upgrade that.
Though the box says it is for UK, I can use with the service providers in India.
I assume it is unlocked already.(is it really?)
This is my device information at boot:-
IPL: 2.25
SPL: 2.25
GSM: 02.25.11
OS: 2.25.11.1
I am planning to use Molsky.Biz ROM available here:-
RUU_Molski.Biz_226102_22610105_022511_WWE (G3 Device. IPL/SPL like: 2.xx)
I hope my device is G3.
Do I need to CIDUnlock my device? What is the FullUnlock?
Molsky.Biz says:-
" Also DO NOT FORGET to CID UNLOCK your Wizard. This is only possible with LokiWiz 0.2b and
IPL/SPL 1.xx, if you have a CID LOCKED Wizard with IPL/SPL 2.xx.0001 flash a G4 Rom !! "
But My IPL/SPL is not 1.xx as you can see above in my details.
What should I do to unlock? Do I need to do that at all?
and what is meant by AKU? Do I need that?
I sold my nokia and communicator to buy this phone. So dont want to brick it because of my ignorance!
Please guide me.
Many Thanks.
Read this thread and follow it
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
Your phone is a G3. If the IPL and SPL has more than 2 digits after the first decimal (ie: 2.xx.xx) then it's a G4.
As for unlocking, that confuses the bejesus out of me.
I would say download the G3 ROM, figure out how to unlock your phone (if possible) and then you should be good to go.
You SHOULD be scared given all the threads around here from people who trashed their phones. And I'd bet few of them could give a straight answer as to why they wanted to do so in the first place. So before you do anything, define why you want to update the rom. Does it do something specific that you absolutely can't live without and makes it worth the risk of ruining the phone? Maybe a custom rom is a tiny bit faster but in a day's time, will it make any difference? Probably not, and an operator rom that's a tiny bit slower is still a LOT faster than a dead phone. Don't forget that the moment you start flashing with anything but an operator approved rom, you're out of warrantee. if you absolutely MUST update the rom, then start reading the link above. Every question you asked has already been answered here many, many times. Is your phone a G3 or a G4? Better know BEFORE you start. Oops...you're at 55% and your PC crashes...what do you do? Better know BEFORE you start. The phone reboots and won't go past the splash screen, what do you do now? Better know BEFORE you start.
Thank you all for the replies.
The main reason for flashing it to the new rom was speed and space considerations.
I was owning an XDA Mini earlier and successfully did the BigStorage and Rom updates.
But seeing many users bricking their wizard here and being not sure about the 'unlocking thing' i've decided to atleast not to venture into the bleeding edge atleast during my warranty period.
I know many questions might have been answered many a times, but the answers too are very contextual, they are different for different versions / models etc.
Hopefully I will do it sometime next year!
i would vote the warranty period is the best time to do it.. then you can tell your provider you tried to update their rom and now your phone dont work and let them send you a replacement...
Flashing isnt all that scary, the first time its a little nerve racking, but then again i like living on the edge...
So if your gonna do it, here is a quick simple explanation...
Downgrade to a 1.xx rom from the FTP site, after the your IPL/SPL should show 1.xx during boot up (mine actually differed, had IPL 1.xx SPL 2.xx and still unlocked just fine, some people claim to have issues though)
after successfully booting run lokwiz 2b (its the one i used) do the sim and supercid unlock.
Then reflash a stock 2.xx rom so that you are sure to get the updated bootloaders, after that has completed successfully then flash any rom you want..
its that simple, just a little time consuming
How to copy the cab file(enable rapi) to your device and run it before running lokiwi
Please disreegard below. Just found it.
Thanks..
I am kind of new in this.
I want to unlock the device but do not know how to
copy the cab file(enable rapi) to your device and run it before running lokiwiz.
I will appreciate your help on this so I can continue with the upgrades.
Thanks in Advance.
1 - Unzip lokiwiz02b.zip to somewhere (extract to c:\lokiwiz) in your computer
2. Connect your phone via ActiveSync to your PC . Browse your phone with File Explorer from your PC.
3 - Copy EnableRapi.cab to your Wizard (My Document)
4 - Execute the EnableRapi.cab in your phone. Wait for it to finish
5 - Guarantee that your phone is connected via activesync with the computer
6 - Execute lokiwiz.bat (from your computer run c:\lokiwiz\lokiwiz.bat, double click on that file) and follow the instructions on your screen...
7 - Select Option U to unlock your Wiz.
Hi, After the soft reset comand, I removed the battery from my Wizard. After that the followin problem was appear: the phone is bringing up to the splash screen and STOP on this position.I have tried to download another Rom but the problem still is the same. My Phone is not CID unlock and before this, I cooked own rom like is writen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043 . So any idea how to wake-up my phone MDA Vario.
Ok forgive me if I'm wrong here, I don't really want to judge before I know the full story, but seems to me your brain went on strike momentarily. First rule of flashing any unofficial rom CID UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE. Anyways sorry, I just wanted to say something so it doesn't happen to you again, that said, what rom did you try to upgrade to? what rom did you try to downgrade to after that? is your device a G3 or G4?
If your device is a G3 I would recommend downgrading to this rom by xelecin
ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_Wizard_1081002_108_10910_ENG_US.exe
it will ask you if you want to CID unlock your device at the start so you shouldn't need to worry about forgetting this time , if you can't connect your device to activesync just go into the bootloader (hold the camera, voice dial buttons while pressing the reset button) and once it connects run the set-up.
Oh another thing before I forget..... do some searching and read up a bit, because this is a pretty common topic on this forum, best of luck and hope everything works out ok. If not, report back.
*edit* I just noticed the thread that you linked to, I actually wasn't aware that this was possible, but anyways I think it's still much safer to CID unlock your device if possible, and another thing you might try replying in that thread if it doesn't work out since they should be more knowledgeable in the matter..... and that would help keep the forums less cluttered *edit*
Thanks, for your help, Unfortunately you are totaly right for my stupid act (again). At first i tried to solve the problem alone , but whole day I roam through this forum to find solution but I can't find the same problem like my. Maybe because of my ..... brain .Anyway I am with G3. NOW I have
IPL 1.0
SPL 2.26
GSM 01.09.11
OS 1.5.4.2
This is after this procedure http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
I tried also to download also and Molski's 2.26.10.2 AKU2.3 Rom a.k.a. 2.26.10.2 Final Edition Rom, but the problem is the same : The splash screen is running and STOP and.... nothing.
I can go to bootloader and can download new rom, but I can't start fhe phone.
Yeah I know these forums aren't the easiest in which to look for info. So you can go into the bootloader, that's good. Don't try to go to a AKU2.x rom or later, keep it under that, so no 2.26 roms at all. 105, or 108 roms should be good.
Did you try the rom from the link I provided or the one on the thread? and afterwards did it go into the phone at all? My friends MDA had a similar problem last week, caused by the same thing, though in your case I see the SPL isn't updating when you install new roms on his it was the os that wasn't updating, but as soon as I installed that rom I recommended it booted up fine, then I updated his device to molski's 2.3.
I'll check back in a few so let me know how's it going.
Here's what you need to know & if you follow these instructions your prob will be solved.
The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Wish u best of luck.
DoCtOr_X said:
Here's what you need to know & if you follow these instructions your prob will be solved.
The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Wish u best of luck.
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Ok, but tell me how to solve this :
"qiote"
8. Open ActiveSync, Explore and copy enablerapi.cab from your PC's C:\ (remember that's where you extracted lokiwiz to...) to you device, I don't care where.
9. Pick up your PDA, File Explorer, find the enablerapi.cab and click it.
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I don't have access to the phone explorer and phone at all.
masr1979 I have tried the rom you give me, but it look like there is some things I don't understand: When I start the exe file i have choice <continue> .Whet I type <c> 2(two) time the soft tell me <no device found> and order me to continue with copy ???. After few seconds tell me that Unlocker ..... Done!, and start HTC wizard Unlocker and NOTHING !!! Stop on this position more then 15 min. and only the led for charging on the phone is active.
Forget all about unlocking. Until you can boot the device completely it'll never work.
Try and install an official 2.x ROM on your device.
My suspicion is that you originally has a G4 device, which is bad because if you DID have a G4 you have a brick now...
Can you remember your phones old ipl/spl? for your sake I hope it wasn't something in this format 2.XX.000X.
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Can you remember your phones old ipl/spl? for your sake I hope it wasn't something in this format 2.XX.000X.
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Of course I'm not sure, but I thing it was 2.21. Anyway did you think that is posible to cook my own rom in G4? I'm totally confused.
Every time when I upload new rom I have this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32884&stc=1&d=1168184491
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...and also this is my bootloader screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32885&stc=1&d=1168184491
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Dr Puttingham said:
Forget all about unlocking. Until you can boot the device completely it'll never work.
Try and install an official 2.x ROM on your device.
My suspicion is that you originally has a G4 device, which is bad because if you DID have a G4 you have a brick now...
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Thanks, but I try to find oficial rom but without success. And very interesting thing I found.. when I start to upload new rom the soft start to check my old rom and after that tell me that i have GE (german) language, but my old was WWE ?
Is it posible some one to give me some link to official 2.x ROM but for T-mobile german language.
Well the other day I tried finding that german rom for a while.... that search was going nowhere, I saw this thread, I don't know if you might want to check into it and maybe try it out. There's mixed results apparently but who knows
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963
I just received my Cingular 8125 refurbed. I believe I have a G3:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
ROM 2.25.11.1 WWE
I tried using lokiwiz2b and got the ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.
After reading about 50+ posts, it seems I am not the only one, but again it seems lokiwiz worked for many.
Can someone help me here where should I start from ? How can I SIM unlock this phone to use it with other carriers ?
sunnye said:
I tried using lokiwiz2b and got the ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.
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You can't run lokiwiz .2b until you drop to a 1.xx ROM.
Please read, understand, and follow every step in this (and the posts it points you too) or you will kill your phone before the first day is out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
And rather than asking for how to do things, take some initiative to look around more. Just reading the Stickies at the top of the Wizard Upgrading and Wizard WM6 forums is enough to answer all of your questions. Also don't forget the Wiki. Everything you need (including SIM Unlocking) can be found here. We are willing to help, but we aren't willing to pick up the spoon and put it in your mouth for you
Also make sure to check the Wiki! Lots of useful info over there. (If you need any of the programs it talks about in the step by step posts let me know, I can reupload if your unable to get links to them)
mfrazzz said:
You can't run lokiwiz .2b until you drop to a 1.xx ROM.
Please read, understand, and follow every step in this (and the posts it points you too) or you will kill your phone before the first day is out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
And rather than asking for how to do things, take some initiative to look around more. Just reading the Stickies at the top of the Wizard Upgrading and Wizard WM6 forums is enough to answer all of your questions. Also don't forget the Wiki. Everything you need (including SIM Unlocking) can be found here. We are willing to help, but we aren't willing to pick up the spoon and put it in your mouth for you
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Excellent thread link, I a regular at HF so know my way around there, but new to this forum so had a hard time looking for info. Thanks for the info.
Removed pending posting of instructions.
What is this for?
Thanx.
Prislav said:
Hi!
Subj - http://rapidshare.com/files/76444771/wzg3.7z
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Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).
Totally agreed! I wouldn't go for it!
I don't mind to brick my wizard again!
mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
mfrazzz said:
Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).
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Lokiwiz has been a trusted and faithful friend. Until I get more info, instructions, screeners even...I will keep using my trusted friend Loki.
No offense to the OP, but "read my other posts" doesn't tell us much. Your other posts are just like this one. Short and to the point, no real info given...nothing telling me how to install/run it. Nothing troubleshooting if an issue should arise. Read the Loki thread, or Dr. P's tutorial...everything anyone needs to know about Loki is there. Yours...not so much.
Hey, all I need is a "no-answer" answer from the poster and that's enough for me to hold back.
Prislav said:
mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.
i tried on my friends wizard not mine.. .copy alll those files on wizard.. and click spl.lnk..and see the difference...
zabardast_1 said:
Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.
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Very true!!
IF, you check his entries, other posts like this one have been made in other device sections. Now how all the mighty guru's here have somehow overlooked this ability, and he has manged to make it happen...
When a dev here releases something, it is does with so much info that if something does happen, a person KNOWS it can be fixed. To say:
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Tells me this person really gives a sh*t less about whether or not my usage helps or kills my device. Real nice attitude there...makes me really confident about using the linky.
And to the poster above...you feel so confident about it that you tried it on a friends wizard??? If it does work, as you say, please give us more details about it...since we have none really.
Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.
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Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.
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Thank you.
I certaily wasn't about to take the risk, especially with the attitude from the OP.
Again, thanks.
Guys dont bombard like this , Prislav has always presented raw content like this in Prophet forum also. Maintaining the terminology, just see diagram, might be useful- simple
But im not favouring any one. please!
I force nobody. Do not want, it is not necessary. To me it is not important.
Well this thread seems nice and hostile .
Unless I am missing something all Prislav has done is to use JumpSPL by Pof (Nice WinCE Tramp by the way ) to fire off a patched G3 SoftSPL and from there let you launch into the ROM update routine.
Prislav’s post may have been a little short on details but there is plenty of info on the board and in his previous threads on the subject. Pof's JumpSPL thread is also a goldmine of info.
Prislav also seems to have been kind enough to provide a patched 'flashable' SPL for G3 devices.
I have not tried this yet (my G3 junkers are at home, so I will tonight) but looking at the dumps of the files and the steps that Prislav has gone through I think this should work.
The SoftSPL seems to contain nothing dangerous and I test launched it on a G4 I have on my desk to no adverse affect (in fact it did almost what I expected, not sure it is putting the device into the correct 'wait for USB' state mind you but it does answer to prods from MTTY ).
Looking at the way the file is patched (and my limited knowledge in this area may let me down, I am more of an ARM Linux hacker) is very interesting. It also looks very much like this could be wrapped into a SoftSPL flashtool that just soft patches a G3 before flashing (and also gives users a choice to flash a HardSPL if wanted, just like we do with G4’s and most modern HTC devices).
Ok,
Just an update to my last post,
I found an old G3 with a broken keyboard under my desk. IPL/SPL 2.17, ancient radio and AKU2.
SoftSPL via JumpSPL from Pof/Prislav seems to work fine .
Converted the Hard-SPL.nb to an nk.nbf (with just the SPL in it).
Flashed the resulting nk.nbf.
Device is now running a patched SPL (2.H4).
Just upgraded device to WM6 from an off the shelf ROM (had Jag 4.0 handy) using the usual NVID update tool.
The end result is an old, unhacked WM5 G3 upgraded to WM6 in a matter of mins.
Download: I will edit this post when I get home and have had a chance to upload the files to my site. - Stuck at work right now.
Edit @ 22:00, 17th Jan: Download is now up here. Use with care and don't come crying to me (or Prislav ).
HowTo: Install PatchedSPL on a G3 Wizard (or just run a SoftSPL if you flash another OS ROM at step 7 with the included flash tool).
Warning: I have only tried this with 2.* IPL’s/SPL’s, I can’t be sure it will not brick devices running 3.* or 1.* IPL’s/SPL’s. It will be a few days before I can test this so if you have a 3.* or 1.* bootloader I would suggest you leave this well alone. Do not try this on a G4, there is no point and you may well brick it .
1: Install latest ActiveSync (If you’re upgrading from WM5-6 your going to need it)
2: Download the rar from my website.
3: Copy the contents of the “Copy to root of G3 Wizard device” folder to the ROOT of your Wizard using ActiveSync.
4: From File Explorer run the SPL shortcut from the root of the device.
5: Wait for the screen to go white (you are now running a patched SoftSPL running from RAM),
6: Unplug and reconnect the USB lead to the PC (you can check the connection with MTTY if your so inclined).
7: Wait a few seconds and start the ROM upgrade in “Flash-WizG3-PatchedSPL”.
If all goes well this will work just like a normal ROM update (without anything shown on your Wizard’s screen) and your device will reboot after a few mins.
Check the version of the SPL running, if it is SPL version 2.H4 all should be fine and your now running a CID unlocked device that can take any Wizard ROM.
John
What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this proceudure (Hard Spl)?
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What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this procedure (Hard Spl)?
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To be honest, very little. Both leave you free to flash a ROM of your choice .
This just uses the same 'methods' as used with newer HTC devices and the G4 Wizards.
It will also be easy enough to wrap with ROM's to create 'G3' SoftSPL upgrades that flash to any G3 device without messing about. Just grab the installer, drop your nb.nbf of choice and run the upgrade.
I'll try and bundle up such an installer tonight if I get time.
Hmmm, why do I feel like I have hijacked this thread .
John
So You mean:
You can Create such an installer than given a certain NBF (OS) does even the CID unlock itself.
It would be great
Aldo
MOD EDIT HDuser 02/01/09
This page has gone wiki and can be found here.
For a better understanding it is recommended that you read all 3 parts under "Flashing - Changing your device to a new version or language" on the main wiki page found here
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so, yeah, why not do one for this device too
[size=+3]UPDATE: Hard-SPL released![/size]
[size=+2]NOTE: This is NOT a SIM unlocker - it also doesn't unlock Security for other radios. if you need that, GO HERE[/size]
[size=+2]23/04/09 -
UPDATE: New version will work on SPL 1.54 or above ROMS!!!! [/size]
so I of course changed the 1.56 rom wiki accordingly to that. (someone can review it if they want)
many thanks to testers for testing!
[size=+1]Donations are always appreciated to the big link in our signature ("elite project"). Thank you!![/size]
Preparations:
0) this package is for Blackstone devices. for any BLAC***** now (SSPL loader checks this).
1) make sure you have .NET framework installed on your PC! if not, get it from http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...fd-ae52-4e35-b531-508d977d32a6&DisplayLang=en
2) if you have vista, WMDC update is recommended: http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-center.mspx
Instructions:
read this if unsure how to install Hard-SPL...
1) download Hard-SPL package from attachment, use 1.56 HSPL (HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip ) if you want to use new 1.5x ROMs. then extract to an empty folder.
NOTE: 1.14 HSPL (the original Unsigned_HardSPL_for_Blackstone_OliNex.zip) is good for only older ROMs, 1.56 HSPL (HSPLWrapper_Blackstone_156OliNex.zip) is good for newer ROMs. 1.56 is not backwards compatible with old ROMs. the incompatible ROM will still boot but screen is going to look funny which is a temporary issue but uncomfortable.
2) you must Have Phone Synced with PC in Windows Mobile!!!
3) run HardSPLWrapper_Blackstone.exe on PC, make sure it's launched from a local drive (not through network drive, etc.). if you are on vista, launching as Administrator is recommended,
4) follow steps in the RUU, check device for prompts after PC shows loading bar, press Yes on phone if asked. please answer with Yes as fast as you can!
5) some notes: when RUU says it will hard reset, do not worry, it is not going to do that. also when it says the flash will take 10 minutes, ignore that, it will only take a minute or so.
6) device should go to a tricolour screen now that says 1.07.OliNex, the SSPL version, which is temporary.
7) in a bit unusual way, it will take a few seconds for the RUU to detect the device, but do not worry, as soon as the "USB" text on the tricolour screen shows up, RUU will see device.
8) SPL flashes, device automatically reboots, job done.
9) to confirm you got it installed, go into bootloader mode (tricolour screen!) and verify the screen shows 1.14.OliNex or for new version 1.56.OliNex, which is the Hard-SPL version.
NOTE: you will not see the SPL version during normal boot, that is the OS version, not SPL!
to enter SPL to check version, fully power the device off by long press of power key, then power on while holding the "volume down" key on the left side of the device. keep holding the volume down key until you see tricolour screen which is the bootloader mode, then release it.
NOTE 2: anyone having problems with the device entering SSPL automatically, please copy SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.exe from SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip attachment to the device and run it. then once the screen is sayingn 1.07.OliNex, run RUU manually. i.e. you launch the Hard-SPL RUU (HardSPLWrapper_Blackstone.exe) on the PC and flash.
*important*: make sure that the USB cable is plugged in and device is synced to Windows Mobile even if doing manual SSPL method.
NOTE 3: this is unsigned Hard-SPL. no limitations on flashing ROMs or radio packages. also, this has overwrite protection against HTC RUU's overwriting HSPL with a stock one, so if someone needs to revert to stock SPL for warranty reasons, a stock SPL downgrade package is posted in this post as well. use this relocker *only* if you need to return the phone for warranty, and only use it as last step - after reflashing stock OS and radio. see steps at the end of this post about how to reflash stock SPL.
NOTE 4: do not use this RUU for anything other than SPL flashing (i.e. hardspl or stock spl restore)!!! nothing other than SPL's made by Olinex team (using OliNex custom cert) will flash to make SSPL more secure. if you want to flash some other rom, then use shipped RUU or blackstone customRUU if you need to flash cooked ROM.
NOTE 5: for developers asking: Hard-SPL is not based on MFG SPL, as that SPL causes the screen not to turn on after a resume. (maybe solved one day ). so currently, MFG SPL can strictly be used for development and hacking.
Troubleshooting:
- read the instructions above.
- read the instructions above.
- read the instructions above.
nothing happens on the device, does not enter tricolour screen mode anyone having problems with the device entering SSPL automatically, please copy SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.exe from SSPL-Manual-TouchHD.zip attachment to the device and run it. then once the screen is showing 1.07.OliNex, run RUU manually. i.e. you launch the Hard-SPL RUU (HardSPLWrapper_Blackstone.exe) on the PC and flash.
general usb connection error problems if you get connection error in RUU after the device goes to 1.07.Olinex screen, then
- try a different USB port
- try different USB cable
- do not touch USB cable during the process especially if it is already a bit dodgy
- also do not use USB hub
- you can also try rebooting your PC
- and you can try using another PC.
- also you can try unticking advanced network functionality in start menu / settings / connections / usbtopc applet.
- another reason for USB connection error: if your PC takes too long to load the drivers (if your device is in bootloader for the first time and perhaps if you are on vista), then if RUU times out, but HD still says "USB" on the tricolour screen, just leave it there and re-run the RUU when driver installation finishes.
- finally, you can try disabling antivirus or firewall programs on the PC.
HD specific USB or connection errors:
- as already said, in a bit unusual way, it will take a few seconds for the RUU to detect the device, but do not worry, as soon as the "USB" text on the tricolour screen shows up, RUU will see device. if not (happens very rarely), wait for RUU to time out (or wait 5 minutes). then remove back cover, reset, it will boot OS again, then you can retry unlocking process from step 1.
- alternatively, launch SSPL-Manual.exe from attachment, run it, wait until 1.07.OliNex tricolour screen says "USB" on it, then run the HardSPLWrapper_Blackstone.exe on the PC.
other issues if SSPL-Manual.exe or Enterbootloader.exe fails to run (says missing component or similar), try a hard reset of the device.
How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!
0. be sure to first restore stock OS, and stock radio. stock SPL is always to be done last!!
1. download your choice of a stock spl package from this post. (currently 1.13, 1.14, 1.15, 1.54)
2. also download the original hardspl from the attachments in this post.
3. run the hardspl exe but do not click anything in RUU yet. just let the hardspl EXE extract the files for flashing.
4. the SPL you want to revert to is a .NBH file, put the stock SPL NBH in the extracted hardspl package, overwriting the original NBH file in it!
5. continue with the RUU (or if needed, run SSPL-Manual.exe manually, then run RUU when it goes to tricolour 1.07.OliNex screen), it goes to 100%, reboots, done.
+6. to verify, enter bootloader mode, see version number on tricolour screen, should now just say 1.14.0000 or any other version ending in .0000, but not ending in OliNex!
that's it.
+7. no worries: if your device is stuck in bootloader mode with Hard-SPL and you need warranty service, you can still flash stock SPL.
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Congrats on releasing this HSPL.
Now the cooking and flashing can begin.
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As you all may have noticed the thread has been cleaned up.
From now on: keep it clean, stop begging, no whining.
Yes the HSPL will be released, yes it will be free.
[SIZE=+2]Warning: those who leak the testversion will be banned, no exeptions![/SIZE]
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Nicely put. I see no reason to beg but then again I don't have the phone... yet. I know you must hate that begging crap more than anyone. I was right there with you when you developed the Wizard HardSPL remember?
Anyways keep up the great work OliNex! I can't wait until I have this phone!
dharvey4651 said:
Nicely put. I see no reason to beg but then again I don't have the phone... yet. I know you must hate that begging crap more than anyone. I was right there with you when you developed the Wizard HardSPL remember?
Anyways keep up the great work OliNex! I can't wait until I have this phone!
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Don't have this phone either, but like you (and most seniors) I do respect the efforts of Olipro and Cmonex (and alike).
They have contributed a lot for our community.
BTW. The honour for the Wizard HSPL goes to Olipro (as always), it was his patching that made the thing work (who's else )
Neh, i'll wait for the public release. I've seen enough horrible failures with HTC devices already when alpha testing
Good job cmonex and Olipro!
have HTC Blackstone SPA firmware to test... waiting for HSPL !
Olipro and Cmonex: the best!
Thanks to all mods
Congrats to all moderators who are doing fantastic jobs, dont have the phone yet but thanks guys, U all rocks
Yeah finally!!
Let the tests go fine and the flashes begin!
Great job man, many thanks!
Cheers.
Waiting patiently for the public release as well. Great job guys, once this gets wrapped up a world of rom cooking will open for the already great HD.
Thanks, please do let us know if we can be of any help!
Guys
Now it is time for you to do some work while you wait.
The good news is that I have enough details to write the wiki page.
The bad news is that I am going to bed.
The worst news is that I have requested that the application not be realesed untill the site is prepered for that.
So you all have a few choices, sit and wait, do nothing and complain.
or
Help us help you.
This is what I need
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one the follwing page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash1
I need somebody to
1) opne the page, add there name in it under ??? on the top line
2) Save the page so that nobody mess with you
3) Check for spelling
4) Check it is readable and understandable
5) Check the content that it is nobb proof.
6) Correct what needs to be corrected.
7) Remove the first commnet
8) Post in this thread that it has been done (so that I know about it)
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On the follwing page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_BLackstone_Flash2
I need sombody to extract that shp.exe and follow the outline that I have placed.
Look at how I formated the first page when it came to the files.
I will pick it up some other time.
I also am lost for words on the HSPL issue, need sobody toexplain it.
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We need to update the roms as people will want them
here is what I wrote on that subject
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3037840&postcount=4
the WIKI page that needs updating is
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Ship_exe
Also one needs to check the forum for theads as a few other roms have poped up.
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So guys, help us to help you and let some of us with day jobs go to bed.
Thanks
And guys
Please lets use the thread to check what has been done as I don't want to read through 18 pages of "I am waiting" to read about what has not been done.
Like I said, help us help you.
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Guys
Now it is time for you to do some work while you wait.
The good news is that I have enough details to write the wiki page.
The bad news is that I am going to bed.
The worst news is that I have requested that the application not be realesed untill the site is prepered for that.
So you all have a few choices, sit and wait, do nothing and complain.
or
Help us help you.
This is what I need
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one the follwing page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Flash1
I need somebody to
1) opne the page, add there name in it under ??? on the top line
2) Save the page so that nobody mess with you
3) Check for spelling
4) Check it is readable and understandable
5) Check the content that it is nobb proof.
6) Correct what needs to be corrected.
7) Remove the first commnet
8) Post in this thread that it has been done (so that I know about it)
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On the follwing page
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_BLackstone_Flash2
I need sombody to extract that shp.exe and follow the outline that I have placed.
Look at how I formated the first page when it came to the files.
I will pick it up some other time.
I also am lost for words on the HSPL issue, need sobody toexplain it.
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We need to update the roms as people will want them
here is what I wrote on that subject
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3037840&postcount=4
the WIKI page that needs updating is
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone_Ship_exe
Also one needs to check the forum for theads as a few other roms have poped up.
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So guys, help us to help you and let some of us with day jobs go to bed.
Thanks
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sure thing, I have a little spare time right now so I will contribute with you guys, just step one so far.....
I think I did step one, please feel free to correct or improve anything, glad to be of any help, cheers.
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As you all may have noticed the thread has been cleaned up.
From now on: keep it clean, stop begging, no whining.
Yes the HSPL will be released, yes it will be free.
[size=+2]Warning: those who leak the testversion will be banned, no exeptions![/size]
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I am sorry, but I still have to say I have got the so called HSPL in some forums. I downloaded it and have it tested. It worked. Someone said it is SSPL made by Cmonex not the HSPL.
I am not sure if it was the leaked test version. If you need it let me know.
Guys, Great Job. Thanks a lot.
skywalkeret said:
I am sorry, but I still have to say I have got the so called HSPL in some forums. I downloaded it and have it tested. It worked. Someone said it is SSPL made by Cmonex not the HSPL.
I am not sure if it was the leaked test version. If you need it let me know.
Guys, Great Job. Thanks a lot.
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Skywalkeret, what u have is leakage of Cmonex's testversion and so-called HSPL by someone, which makes you several steps to the success. what i know from Cmonex SSPL is not secure at this stage. And he/she does HOPE everyone can pay patience for the final HSPL release. THE PRE-LEAKAGE of SSPL WOULD MAKE HTC to improve their future "firewall" against HSPL, and I don't believe that EVERY EACH HTC OWNER or FANS would like to hear this sort of stuff?!
It is A REAL SHAME for those guys lost their promise to Cmonex and just make their own threads HOT, even DO NOT MENTION A WORD ABOUT THE GENERATOR OF THIS SSPL.
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Skywalkeret, what u have is leakage of Cmonex's testversion and so-called HSPL by someone, which makes you several steps to the success. what i know from Cmonex SSPL is not secure at this stage. And he/she does HOPE everyone can pay patience for the final HSPL release. THE PRE-LEAKAGE of SSPL WOULD MAKE HTC to improve their future "firewall" against HSPL. It is A REAL SHAME for those guys lost their promise to Cmonex and just make their own threads HOT, even DO NOT MENTION A WORD ABOUT THE GENERATOR OF THIS SSPL.
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Seems you are the right one i have talked to in some other forums. I sugguest we may do something to wake those guys up and warning them.
If there is anything I can help, please let me know.
Re: Raphael_ding
hey, ding. i got you. I must say, world is just like a box of chocolate. you dont know what you gona get lol. they just did it.
me? yes, im just waiting for the original olinex's NON-BETA version lol
again. thanks olinex's hard work. you let me flash a lot of ROM on my S1, TOUCH PRO, ....and my future HD.
skywalkeret said:
Seems you are the right one i have talked to in some other forums. I sugguest we may do something to wake those guys up and warning them.
If there is anything I can help, please let me know.
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THX, Skywalkeret, what we can do is to post sth. and let those guys know about what they are doing. And better ask forum moderators to eliminate those leakege threads ASAP.
Cheers