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OK, a word from the DOC.... to the wise ...
If one has successfully unlocked their G3 device they won't be complaining that their device doesn't have the themes, ringers, little tweaks and proggies installed by the extended ROM as these things will be installed...
Vippie has prepared a nice tutorial named Howto flash a Wizard... a little tutorial! that is a "must read" IMO, please take the time!
jpmche has published an unlocking guide for our Spanish only amigos here at [Favor de Leer antes de Preguntar] La guia en Español para Des-bloquear el Wizard
mestrini recommends saving your CID block that is backed up when running the Lokiwiz tool. Lokiwiz will save it as a bin file and it is useful if you encounter a "Data Crashes. Please contact your service center" error. Please take a look at his thread.
btw, a G4 PDA will report an IPL and SPL similar to 2.21.0001 and a G3 PDA will report something similar to 2.21 (notice the G3 doesn't have the trailing .0001!)
Read between the lines here... almost ALL the postings of problems posted in the ROM threads are directly due to people not truly unlocking their device.
In the real world there is a phrase ... RTFM, loosely translated to "Read The Freak'n Manual"... Faria in particular took pains to create a manual for unlocking G3 devices. I've personally unlocked probably close to 50 Cingular 8125's and a few T-Mobiles. I've seen PROBABLY every situation with a G3 device here.
A couple of things...
1st - Most of the custom ROM's here require that your device be CID unlocked.
2nd - CID unlocking, as well as flashing a custom ROM, will void your warranty.
3rd - There is always the chance, even after all precautions are taken, that you might brick your device. This, however, is extremely unlikely unless you have a G4 PDA and attempt this.
4th - Please don't cross post. This particular thread was "stickied" to keep it at the top where noobies can see it and veterans can attempt to help. My attempt with this thread is to alleviate the posting of obvious CID unlocking problems in the chef's threads so that they can concentrate on perfecting their ROM and not answering questions that have been already been answered countless times before and really have nothing to do with their ROM.
5th - Faria and I reference the Button 1.05 ROM. You DO NOT have to use the 1.05 to unlock your device but you may instead use an official 1.x ROM (Lokiwiz .2b only works with 1.x ROM's) if it will allow you to downgrade to it. Often, however,the only way to downgrade to an official 1.x ROM is to downgrade to the 1.05 first... catch-22.
6th - This technique is the best way to downgrade a device to a previous version, for instance when you need to return to an official "shipped" ROM for warranty reasons.
PLEASE take the time to read all the way through this before making the decision to unlock your phone. We are not responsible for you bricking your device.
If you have a G3 device and follow Faria's instructions, which I only repeat time after time, you WILL have a working device..... no ****!
If you have a G4 device DO NOT FOLLOW THESE INSTRUCTIONS, YOU WILL BRICK YOUR DEVICE!!
Also, if you DO have a G4 Wizard, please do NOT post anything here regarding how to unlock your device. This is for G3's only, please start your own thread...
So... being that my friend Faria's primary language isn't English (though he has a better mastery of it than many of my fellow Americans...) I'll expound on it ONE LAST TIME ...
Please do not use the PC for anything, including browsing the internet, checking email, playing freecell, or anything while this is happening! Have nothing going on in the background.
mestrini advises (and I agree!)
I've come to realize that many "NO COMMUNICATION" errors are due to low voltage battery so i think it would be good to include in your guide to have a full (or almost) battery before using any RUU.
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1. Glance through Faria's original thread on this (he wrote the book!!)
2. Download Button's 1.05 ROM at RapidShare or Badongo
3.. Downgrade your ROM to the Button 1.05. Let it go through the whole setup please...
Note: If your device fails at 98% with a 302 error follow Vippie's advice and try the Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102 instead.
4. Download lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker UPDATE Version 0.2b
5. Extract the afore mentioned file to the root of your C drive. Do NOT extract to a folder with spaces...
6. Open Activesync WITH YOUR DEVICE NOT CONNECTED! and delete your partnership.
7. Connect your device and cancel the partnership. (You're a guest )
8. Open ActiveSync, Explore and copy enablerapi.cab from your PC's C:\ (remember that's where you extracted lokiwiz to...) to you device, I don't care where.
9. Pick up your PDA, File Explorer, find the enablerapi.cab and click it.
10. (Back to your PC) ... <Start> <Run> <cmd> <Enter> to give you a most wonderful MS Dos prompt (be afraid, VERY afraid!)
11. In the MS Dos box (mouses not allowed!!!) type "CD\" <enter> (no quotes)
12. Type "lokiwiz.bat" <enter> (Actually, if you have XP, type lok then <tab> it SHOULD complete the filename, YMMV.
13. You will see a screen that has ...
U. Unlock
L. Lock
C. CID Unlock (SuperCID)
Q. Quit
14. Hit the U key on your PC and press <Enter> ... your PDA WILL REBOOT upon completion !!!!!!!
15. Wait for your PDA to reboot, rerun the lokiwiz batch file (if you hit the up arrow key twice on your keyboard it will retype "lokiwiz", then hit <Enter>) then hit the C key on your PC and press <Enter> ... YOUR PDA WILL REBOOT UPON COMPLETION !!!
(if your Pocket PC Phone does NOT reboot each time, you didn't do it right! Stop and make that work, trust me!, then go on)
16. Watch the rebooting of your PDA, if BOTH IPL and SPL are 1.xx then great. Quite probably your IPL will be 1.xx and your SPL will be 2.xx. Rerun the button 1.05 ROM downgrade a second time and it will become 1.x on both IPL and SPL. You don't need to redo the unlocking.
17. My suggestion, take for what it's worth, is to download and install the T-Mobile 2.26 ROM
This will give you a strong 2.26 IPL and SPL to work with.
Now you SHOULD have a IPL and SPL of 2.26 to work with. If not, you screwed up! Don't attempt to install someone's hard work and ***** before you do these steps!
EDIT for Step 17 - Download and install the 3.08 IPL/SPL rather than the 2.26, your choice! (I suggest doing the T-Mobile 2.26 first but that's me
IF, by chance your device hangs and never completes the flash (always give it a LOT of time, with no programs running, hopefully after a fresh reboot of your computer) you'll be stuck in (hopefully) the bootloader screen. It's very scary (at least to me the 4 or 5 times my own custom ROM's have been bad) all is not lost. Each time (after trial and error) I was able to restore. If this happens reboot your PC and then rerun the Button 1.05. It will act like it doesn't see it at first but have faith! I've tried this by using various provider's shipped ROMs and it always tell me it can't communicate. But, if I reboot, the 1.05 has always worked.
If you still have issues, uninstall ActiveSync. REBOOT! Download and install ActiveSync 4.5 Don't create a partnership. Try to run the 1.05 again.
Also a good idea is to delete your Windows temp folder. With XP this is typically
"C:\Documents and Settings\PC User's Logon Name, whatever that is\Local Settings\Temp" (Show hidden files need to be checked)
Most of you can paste this into your "RUN" box and click OK
cmd /k del "C:\Documents and Settings\%username%\Local Settings\Temp" /s/q/f
(type exit and hit enter when it completes)
Also, a good idea is to close all apps, shell to a command prompt by clicking <RUN>, typing cmd and clicking OK. A nice black MS Dos box awaits. Type CHKDSK/F and enter. Then type Y and hit enter. Type exit and hit enter. Reboot your PC and let it go through the data integrity test. Try again.
A last note. If you DO ever go back to the 1.05 ROM for any reason you need to repeat the lokiwiz steps as you won't be able to install a 2.x IPL/SPL bootloader.
A last disclaimer
Faria originally posted this unlocking technique using Button's 1.05 and machinagod's lokiwiz 0.2b. I have merely attempted to simplify the steps.
Final note
Microsoft has asked that all ROM's be removed from the FTP and we have complied. I have searched the internet and found the Button 1.05 and T-Mobile ROM's and updated the links here. Thanks to whoever posted the Button 1.05!
Enjoy!
awesome guide, and i just want to thank you guys for doing so much for the community
Great job Dr. P. and real wise words!
Regards,
Molski
Can this thread be stickied?
If anyone wants it, i think i might want to write a thread for newbies later... just to point them to the right direction...
vseehua said:
Can this thread be stickied?
If anyone wants it, i think i might want to write a thread for newbies later... just to point them to the right direction...
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Yeah, this thread should be stickied....and XDA-Dev should make me a mod of this forum, so I could delete every cid-unlocking question
Molski
great post !
bravo doc !
Thanks guys!
faria said:
i also sugested that applying new members should not be able to post when registred ,they shoud waith a week or more ,therefore forcing them to read ,in order to fix their problems.this i belive would make the forum wizer and allot cleaner by simlpy applying that rule.
what do you think guys?
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Having read varios forums I don't think that would cure the problem. The best solution I think would be as Molski suggested in having moderators with the ability to delete repeating questions. My own suggestion would also be to give people of a certian level (ie: senior member) the ability to start and moderate thier own threads, therefore giving you the ability to keep a thread on topic.
faria said:
thanks steve for the kind words.
i for one i m not coming back untill there is some clean up in his forum,
the admin has contact me and said they are looking at the issue.since this is a non paid jod and everyone got lives it could be a very long while.
i also sugested that applying new members should not be able to post when registred ,they shoud waith a week or more ,therefore forcing them to read ,in order to fix their problems.this i belive would make the forum wizer and allot cleaner by simlpy applying that rule.
what do you think guys?
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First...great job Dr. P Although you have typed the same thing many times before. I know I read them all.
Now... I agree with what Jose has said here. I for one spent a long time reading and learning before I felt comfortable messing with my phone and I work with software and hardware for a living. Many of the new owners of these phones come on here and jump in with both feet and then the trouble starts. Perhaps Molski should be a mod on this forum, it might help (Molski i will tell you now it is a thankless job.) at least then things would be cleaner around here. I know that everyone has other jobs but couldn't troublemakers be banned sooner than they are and is it really that hard to block an IP? I'm done rambling besides i have to get back to work.
Kirby
Wooh everyone's back at least to offer their 2 cents and Dr. Puttingham, we Americans do speak good ole English maybe colo(u)red sometimes . Faria thanks for commenting. Molski keep up the good work and Summiter, please reach out. This place is not going to be the same without you folks.
Any idea, on how to downgrade a rom back to the original one? My phone needs to be shipped back to TMobile, and i can't get it back to the original T-Mobile NL rom?
Sgele said:
Any idea, on how to downgrade a rom back to the original one? My phone needs to be shipped back to TMobile, and i can't get it back to the original T-Mobile NL rom?
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To my knowledge Button's 1.05 is lower than any provider's shipping ROM so you shouldn't have any problem "upgrading" to your official shipped ROM. I've personally taken 3 Cingular 8125's back to the shipped 1.08 this way to return to Cingular.
Good luck!
My apologies to Dr. P and all the senior members. I was one of those guys that were constantly asking the repeated question. I got it straightened out now. Both of my MDA's are unlocked and working perfect. Thank you all so much for all your help.
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Just an idea - do we all have to have open PM and email. If we could have PM or email only on invite or something, the good people here could get some peace, and everyone had to ask on the forum, where everyone else (at least some of you) can give an answer. We still have to have some moderators i think, but you didnt have to answer hundreds of PMs and emails.
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Yes this is off topic. Please don't hijack this thread with issues not directly related to unlocking G3 devices...
Which is precisely what has the folks angry, the threads going in different directions than what was intended.
No offense meant.
Im sorry. I guess that applies to faria, andy_morgan, rkwhyte2, and brando457 too, who was off topic before me. I am new here, and saw the discussion went off topic, but when they did it, I thought it was ok. Sorry again. Im learning, and it will not happen again.
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Im sorry. I guess that applies to faria, andy_morgan, rkwhyte2, and brando457 too, who was off topic before me. I am new here, and saw the discussion went off topic, but when they did it, I thought it was ok. Sorry again. Im learning, and it will not happen again.
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Yes it does but as I said, no hard feelings. (I'll deal with the others in my own way )
Great job
This guide is to good for words... Even my mother can now CID Unlock a Wizard
Thx Dr. P and the rest.
..im wondering if we should include screen shots along with this?! what do you guys think
Did anybody unlock phone in this way?
Im afraid from "brick" of my phone!
..wow are u serious?
my wizard is stuck at the ipl spl screen, i just tried to throm farias new rom on it even though it is cid locked (i used shelltool)
now this happened
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
i dont even know how to enter bootloader mode, i searched the forums but its so hard to find things, im serious, it's a problem ive had before, any help and i would love you
jawnsixteen said:
my wizard is stuck at the ipl spl screen, i just tried to throm farias new rom on it even though it is cid locked (i used shelltool)
now this happened
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
i dont even know how to enter bootloader mode, i searched the forums but its so hard to find things, im serious, it's a problem ive had before, any help and i would love you
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reset and hold the camera button,you will see a 3 color screen...connect to the PC it should say usb in the bottom of the device screen....now install the latest update from your carrier.
PS
for future reference if you device is ended CID unlocked you do not need to use shelltools...just use the update utility provided by the rom.
also this info has been posted 1 trilion times
..........
Its not that hard to look at the stickies (thats were the really important stuff is located).
Here's a great post for you to use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and it got stuck at 99%, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the sheeltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and when i powered on it wasn't your rom it was the one i had on it before with some things different, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the shelltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
jawnsixteen said:
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and it got stuck at 99%, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the sheeltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
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A really useful thread (besides the WIKI is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613 it, by the way, is the very first item on the WM6 forum, this forum has Dr. P's EXCELLENT thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 plus other useful stickies) It seems that your phone is 'working' after flashing the TMo 2.26, the first thing you need to do is find out if you have a G3 or a G4, then CID unlock appropriately. Skip the shelltool stuff for now, if you don't understand what phone you have, you will be on the road to "brick city".
--M
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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CID unlocking (as far as I know) won't void your warrantee--at least it hasn't voided mine (TMo US), but YMMV. That said, it isn't a bad thing to ask for help, (cross posting is generally frowned on) we like to help people who aren't lazy or stupid.
When you do post for help, generally the more info provided the better, but I sense you know that. If your phone is a G3, I am not really sure why you are seeking help in the G4 forum....anyway.
IMHO, Faria's WM6 works really well, and I haven't had serious issues with it. There are others that love different ROMs or will cook their own, great! Nottoosmart has a good looking ROM (a Mun derivative ROM) everyone will have an opinion, I know what works well for me. So "what is the best"? Hmm Faria's WM6 (for me).
--Mark
jawnsixteen said:
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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While keeping your phone CID Locked does keep you from voiding your warranty in that respect, flashing a custom rom on your phone will technically void your warranty also (although unless do something nasty to it, you should be able to get it back to the official rom and with it still CID locked then you should be fine). Example: You flash the latest and greatest WM6 on your phone and then your USB connector breaks and your SD slot doesn't work. You now can't get back to WM5 so they will know if they look. Far fetched, but I'm just throwing it out that if you are really concerned about your warranty, flashing custom roms may not be a good thing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to tell you not to do it, I'm just saying that doing pretty much anything in the upgrading and WM6 forums here is basically voiding your warranty. But I think in most cases, the carriers don't look that close.
And please ask for assistance when you have issues. There are so many posts though, its hard to tell who has really read and who hasn't sometimes. Just remember that the stickies at the top of the forums are your friends and there is really good info there to help you get unstuck (most of the time).
i love you guys
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What is this for?
Thanx.
Prislav said:
Hi!
Subj - http://rapidshare.com/files/76444771/wzg3.7z
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Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).
Totally agreed! I wouldn't go for it!
I don't mind to brick my wizard again!
mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Sorry, not meant as a slam, but someone with only 21 posts, puts up a Rapidshare link for something to flash to a Wizard saying its HardSPL and no other instructions or information... Sorry (again, no offense meant by this) but I wouldn't flash something that is unexplained (if there is another post about this, then at least give a pointer to that in the first post).
FWIW: HardSPL is a way of making your device almost unbrickable. If it works like with the Hermes and Kaiser HardSPL, then you do the steps needed to install this, instead of the old CID unlock procedure of having to go back to the Button ROM and running lokiwiz.
But still, I'd be careful flashing something like this until more is known about it (the source, instructions for the method to install it, etc).
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Lokiwiz has been a trusted and faithful friend. Until I get more info, instructions, screeners even...I will keep using my trusted friend Loki.
No offense to the OP, but "read my other posts" doesn't tell us much. Your other posts are just like this one. Short and to the point, no real info given...nothing telling me how to install/run it. Nothing troubleshooting if an issue should arise. Read the Loki thread, or Dr. P's tutorial...everything anyone needs to know about Loki is there. Yours...not so much.
Hey, all I need is a "no-answer" answer from the poster and that's enough for me to hold back.
Prislav said:
mfrazzz
I with you agree, but...
I shall be immodest - please read ALL my messages ;-)
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.
i tried on my friends wizard not mine.. .copy alll those files on wizard.. and click spl.lnk..and see the difference...
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Very irresponsible attitude,don't post if you are not sure what it's all about,but if you post than have the courage to standby it.
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Very true!!
IF, you check his entries, other posts like this one have been made in other device sections. Now how all the mighty guru's here have somehow overlooked this ability, and he has manged to make it happen...
When a dev here releases something, it is does with so much info that if something does happen, a person KNOWS it can be fixed. To say:
Instructions are not present because I do not wish to be responsible for another's nonsense. To whom it is necessary that will understand.
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Tells me this person really gives a sh*t less about whether or not my usage helps or kills my device. Real nice attitude there...makes me really confident about using the linky.
And to the poster above...you feel so confident about it that you tried it on a friends wizard??? If it does work, as you say, please give us more details about it...since we have none really.
Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.
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Until we see some directions as well as a bit more transparency from the OP, I'm removing the link. OP, please PM me when you have fulfilled those requirements.
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Thank you.
I certaily wasn't about to take the risk, especially with the attitude from the OP.
Again, thanks.
Guys dont bombard like this , Prislav has always presented raw content like this in Prophet forum also. Maintaining the terminology, just see diagram, might be useful- simple
But im not favouring any one. please!
I force nobody. Do not want, it is not necessary. To me it is not important.
Well this thread seems nice and hostile .
Unless I am missing something all Prislav has done is to use JumpSPL by Pof (Nice WinCE Tramp by the way ) to fire off a patched G3 SoftSPL and from there let you launch into the ROM update routine.
Prislav’s post may have been a little short on details but there is plenty of info on the board and in his previous threads on the subject. Pof's JumpSPL thread is also a goldmine of info.
Prislav also seems to have been kind enough to provide a patched 'flashable' SPL for G3 devices.
I have not tried this yet (my G3 junkers are at home, so I will tonight) but looking at the dumps of the files and the steps that Prislav has gone through I think this should work.
The SoftSPL seems to contain nothing dangerous and I test launched it on a G4 I have on my desk to no adverse affect (in fact it did almost what I expected, not sure it is putting the device into the correct 'wait for USB' state mind you but it does answer to prods from MTTY ).
Looking at the way the file is patched (and my limited knowledge in this area may let me down, I am more of an ARM Linux hacker) is very interesting. It also looks very much like this could be wrapped into a SoftSPL flashtool that just soft patches a G3 before flashing (and also gives users a choice to flash a HardSPL if wanted, just like we do with G4’s and most modern HTC devices).
Ok,
Just an update to my last post,
I found an old G3 with a broken keyboard under my desk. IPL/SPL 2.17, ancient radio and AKU2.
SoftSPL via JumpSPL from Pof/Prislav seems to work fine .
Converted the Hard-SPL.nb to an nk.nbf (with just the SPL in it).
Flashed the resulting nk.nbf.
Device is now running a patched SPL (2.H4).
Just upgraded device to WM6 from an off the shelf ROM (had Jag 4.0 handy) using the usual NVID update tool.
The end result is an old, unhacked WM5 G3 upgraded to WM6 in a matter of mins.
Download: I will edit this post when I get home and have had a chance to upload the files to my site. - Stuck at work right now.
Edit @ 22:00, 17th Jan: Download is now up here. Use with care and don't come crying to me (or Prislav ).
HowTo: Install PatchedSPL on a G3 Wizard (or just run a SoftSPL if you flash another OS ROM at step 7 with the included flash tool).
Warning: I have only tried this with 2.* IPL’s/SPL’s, I can’t be sure it will not brick devices running 3.* or 1.* IPL’s/SPL’s. It will be a few days before I can test this so if you have a 3.* or 1.* bootloader I would suggest you leave this well alone. Do not try this on a G4, there is no point and you may well brick it .
1: Install latest ActiveSync (If you’re upgrading from WM5-6 your going to need it)
2: Download the rar from my website.
3: Copy the contents of the “Copy to root of G3 Wizard device” folder to the ROOT of your Wizard using ActiveSync.
4: From File Explorer run the SPL shortcut from the root of the device.
5: Wait for the screen to go white (you are now running a patched SoftSPL running from RAM),
6: Unplug and reconnect the USB lead to the PC (you can check the connection with MTTY if your so inclined).
7: Wait a few seconds and start the ROM upgrade in “Flash-WizG3-PatchedSPL”.
If all goes well this will work just like a normal ROM update (without anything shown on your Wizard’s screen) and your device will reboot after a few mins.
Check the version of the SPL running, if it is SPL version 2.H4 all should be fine and your now running a CID unlocked device that can take any Wizard ROM.
John
What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this proceudure (Hard Spl)?
AldoWeb said:
What's the difference between CID unlock(using LokiWiz) and this procedure (Hard Spl)?
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To be honest, very little. Both leave you free to flash a ROM of your choice .
This just uses the same 'methods' as used with newer HTC devices and the G4 Wizards.
It will also be easy enough to wrap with ROM's to create 'G3' SoftSPL upgrades that flash to any G3 device without messing about. Just grab the installer, drop your nb.nbf of choice and run the upgrade.
I'll try and bundle up such an installer tonight if I get time.
Hmmm, why do I feel like I have hijacked this thread .
John
So You mean:
You can Create such an installer than given a certain NBF (OS) does even the CID unlock itself.
It would be great
Aldo
I just got my new Cingular 8125/Wizard last week from my friend and found out about XDA developers and was intrigued with what I can do with my new device. I figured out how to flash the new WM6 onto my phone to replace the laggy WM5. Now that I have had this ROM for long enough, I'd like to change to a new ROM that I've found. Also, this new ROM is a different version of WM6. I don't know if I'm supposed to downgrade first or just start loading a new ROM on? If I am supposed to downgrade, how do I do it and what is the best program to use. Thanks in advance,
Brock
Start in the Wizard wiki (check link on top of page) where you'll find a lot of info to help you know your device; there are two generations of them. You can also get my tool - WST (check my signature) which will also help you.
Also pay attention to the stickies as they have valuable guides
good luck and welcome
mestrini said:
Start in the Wizard wiki (check link on top of page) where you'll find a lot of info to help you know your device; there are two generations of them. You can also get my tool - WST (check my signature) which will also help you.
Also pay attention to the stickies as they have valuable guides
good luck and welcome
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Thank you. I have a G4 Wizard by the way. I looked through a lot of forums and through the Wizard Wiki and couldn't find how to flash a new ROM after on WM6, only on how to flash from the original WM5. I looked at WST and I'm a little confused. I'm not sure what it is or how to use it? Also, my phone is CDI unlocked. Also, what is the program WizardLove and what does it do? I see all the talk about it and I don't understand it.
No. You don't understand (or you didn't look carefully).
G4 Wizard CANNOT be CID unlocked with free software.
Head to the G4 subforum and look the stickies carefully,
First flash with your original carrier ROM, then use either SoftSPL or HardSPL to flash another version of WM6.
starkwong said:
No. You don't understand (or you didn't look carefully).
G4 Wizard CANNOT be CID unlocked with free software.
Head to the G4 subforum and look the stickies carefully,
First flash with your original carrier ROM, then use either SoftSPL or HardSPL to flash another version of WM6.
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Ok what I meant is I flashed the HardSPL onto my G4. I'm on Cingular so what exactly is my original carrier rom and where do I find it? I already used HardSPL, do I need to do it again? Thanks again for everyones help. After I get this once, I won't have any more trouble
bropark08 said:
Ok what I meant is I flashed the HardSPL onto my G4. I'm on Cingular so what exactly is my original carrier rom and where do I find it? I already used HardSPL, do I need to do it again? Thanks again for everyones help. After I get this once, I won't have any more trouble
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Ahh, you should have started by saying that you already knew what device you have and that already applied the HardSPL patch
Now, as long as you flash "G4 safe" ROMs (without IPL/SPL), you can try as many as you'd like. If you had used SoftSPL that would require to do it everytime you flashed a new ROM
cheers
I have watch videos...read instruction etc, etc, all I could on ATT Tilt/Kaiser flashing...I still don't have a clue. Do I do some type of CID unlock 1st....then is there a Jump SPL and than a Hard SPL. Is any of them two done from the boot loader screen. I can fix most electronics but I don't understand.. no you-tube video...i saw it on flashing the kaiser....sound quality bad for the hard of hearing (me).
Goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
Download Jump SPL and Run it. Then the hard-spl. This will then allow you to flash the custom ROMs on your Kaiser.
Regards,
Carty..
I just went through this a few days ago trying to flash my first custom rom. I have to agree it is incredibly confusing and contradicting, which is why I'm taking the time to post this. Just read as much as you can about it and don't try to flash the rom until you understand. I am no expert on this by any means, but this is what i did on my tilt to flash HardSPL. I tried to make this as simple as possible just so you see the exact steps I went through, but i highly recommend reading the thread linked in the previous post by Carty above and the other link I'm posting at the very end.
1. download JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061.
2. get the hardSPL version you need for your rom. I used v3.56 from the link Carty gave you in the post above, because the rom I am using was based on the official att 6.1 rom. You may need a different one for the rom you want to flash I don't know too much about this yet. Leave the folder where you unzipped the hardspl files open on your desktop so you wont have to look for it later.
3. connect your phone to the PC, and transfer JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe over to your phone with activesync. Remove your microsd card if you have one on your phone (very important).
4.run JumpSPL1.93-KAIS.exe on your phone, it should go to a bootloader mode with the tricolor screen and underneath it will say USB.
5.Unplug the phone from the PC, wait about 5-10 seconds and plug it back in. Activesync should NOT be able to recognize your phone. If it does, something went wrong so start over.
6. Finally you can run the KaiserCustomRUU.exe from the hardSPL folder on your pc desktop and follow the instructions. It will load the HardSPL on your phone.
7. if you want to make sure it loaded, shut down your device and when your are turning it on press both the power and camera button at the same time, it will go into bootloader mode and show you what SPL is on your device. mine says SPL-3.56.Hard after I loaded the hardspl. You are now ready to flash a new rom.
This wiki helped me the most:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser#ROMx20.Upgrading
Read as much of it as you can, especially the "SPL questions?" link, that was the most useful for me.
I hope this helps
All good advice! I just loaded the HardSPL on my phone for the first time and it worked perfectly.
Now all i need is a work connection that doesnt block my attempts to download ROM's!!!!!!
tricky_uk said:
All good advice! I just loaded the HardSPL on my phone for the first time and it worked perfectly.
Now all i need is a work connection that doesnt block my attempts to download ROM's!!!!!!
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LOL.
hjlow makes mirrors of the ROM downloads at Blogspot. Are those any good for you?
Ta
Dave
DaveShaw said:
LOL.
hjlow makes mirrors of the ROM downloads at Blogspot. Are those any good for you?
Ta
Dave
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Sadly blogspot gets locked as well.......i've managed to download some stuff of here but in general sites it classes as 'personal storage' it gets a bit upset about...
if anyone knows any other way round i'd be eternally grateful!
ben_zin said:
I just went through this a few days ago trying to flash my first custom rom. I have to agree it is incredibly confusing and contradicting, which is why I'm taking the time to post this. Just read as much as you can about it and don't try to flash the rom until you understand. I am no expert on this by any means, but this is what i did on my tilt to flash HardSPL. I tried to make this as simple as possible just so you see the exact steps I went through, but i highly recommend reading the thread linked in the previous post by Carty above and the other link I'm posting at the very end.
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Amen to that.. I like this guy.
Thx...clear and direct....now I am ready.
Carty said:
Goto http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
Download Jump SPL and Run it. Then the hard-spl. This will then allow you to flash the custom ROMs on your Kaiser.
Regards,
Carty..
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does this work on diamond?or i mean, should i frist jump spl ant hen hard, or just jump spl?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408109&page=506 post 5055
materijalmen said:
does this work on diamond?or i mean, should i frist jump spl ant hen hard, or just jump spl?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408109&page=506 post 5055
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This will then allow you to flash the custom ROMs on your Kaiser.
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No , this is what works on the Diamond
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414835
denco7 said:
No , this is what works on the Diamond
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414835
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i have tried this already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621 but nothing has changed...i asked for help, but nobody answers....see the last posts int that thread.
materijalmen said:
i have tried this already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408621 but nothing has changed...i asked for help, but nobody answers....see the last posts int that thread.
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Unfortunately this is the Kaiser forum and you will get even less help here.
Post your questions in the Diamond forum and people will help,when and if they are able. And in the meantime, read and search and try to figure it out for yourself, All the steps and instructions are there.
Sometimes people, unfortunately, mistake this site for the HTC free support line, with 12 techs waiting at their PC's to help. Then they get irritated that no one answers their requests for help on a timely basis . If people won't or can't answer your questions then you need to figure it out on your own.
The bottom line is, if you don't know what you are doing, then you shouldn't be messing around with your phone. Sorry
denco7 said:
Unfortunately this is the Kaiser forum and you will get even less help here.
Post your questions in the Diamond forum and people will help,when and if they are able. And in the meantime, read and search and try to figure it out for yourself, All the steps and instructions are there.
Sometimes people, unfortunately, mistake this site for the HTC free support line, with 12 techs waiting at their PC's to help. Then they get irritated that no one answers their requests for help on a timely basis . If people won't or can't answer your questions then you need to figure it out on your own.
The bottom line is, if you don't know what you are doing, then you shouldn't be messing around with your phone. Sorry
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I second Denco Read Read Read Read Read........ as anything you will ask, or can even think to ask..... more than likely has ALREADY been asked AND Answered.
Htc XDA member: how can I help you today?
Xda Newb: My phone isnt working.... Can you fix it ?
Htc XDA member: is your phone plugged in and turned on?"
Xda Newb:Wheres the on button?
( 1 min later) where do I plug it in at ?
(2 mins later) whats a battery?
(2.25 mins later) how do I know its on?
(2.3 mins later) why wont you answer me ?
(2.35mins later)Why arent you telling me my answers?
(2.4 mins later)whats wrong with my phone?
(2.5 mins later) You guys must be jerks because you wont spoon feed me [email protected]@@!!!
XDA MODERATOR : you noob you are banned for not reading PAGE 1 of the GODDAMN WIKI as all your answers were right there 1 click away. Now you cant access them HAHA. This is what you get for being IMPATIENT AND ANNOYING ( They should really do this here )
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Just my rant
denco7 said:
No , this is what works on the Diamond
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=414835
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How is this link related to the topic?
I want to use JumpSPL to change the version of HardSPL I have on diamond b/c my USB port does not work.
kyniemxotxa98 said:
How is this link related to the topic?
I want to use JumpSPL to change the version of HardSPL I have on diamond b/c my USB port does not work.
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And what I said was that this was the Kaiser forums and not the Diamond forums. Putting Kaiser Spl's on a Diamond will brick your phone faster than throwing it into a bucket of water. So I gave him a link to the Diamond forum and Diamond Security/CID/Sim unlocker.
How is your question related to the Kaiser forums ?
Will it work on my TP/Excalibur? No as phones have different hardware to which is why h-spl's are device specific.
The best way to help yourself and not get a brick "expensive paperweight" is to head to device subforum and do some reading, as last thing you want is to be creating a thread named "Help"
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And what I said was that this was the Kaiser forums and not the Diamond forums. Putting Kaiser Spl's on a Diamond will brick your phone faster than throwing it into a bucket of water. So I gave him a link to the Diamond forum and Diamond Security/CID/Sim unlocker.
How is your question related to the Kaiser forums ?
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Since I cannot find anything helpful in Diamond forum, I dig around in other forums to try to rescue my phone and make it usable.
Which is a recipe for diasaster...seriously, if you are gonna do something as stupid as to try to make something SPECIFICALLY for another device work on yours, then you do not deserve to own a Diamond.