noob question regarding g? type phone, updating rom, unlocking, etc - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

i've read a good deal of threads dealing w/ upgrading the rom and the necessity of fully unlocking to do so. however, i'm a noob, so please excuse my ignorance despite reading and searching threads.
i still have a few questions...
i know i've read it, but can't find or remember how to tell if my phone is a G3 or G4...
can i use lokiwiz with my current ipl/spl 1.08, or do i need to downgrade to 1.05 or even 1.04 (sounds like less issues w/ 1.04) first?
do i need to worry about backing up my current 1.8 rom? if i ever need to downgrade again, i can find apps/utils to downgrade w/, or a rom available for download?
will unlocking void warranty?
thanks for your time and patience.

the easy way to tell if you have a G3 or G4 chipset if by looking at the numbers displayed at bootup.
G3 will look like this
ipl 1.08
spl 1.08
G4 will look like this
ipl 1.08.0001
spl 1.08.0001
if your ipl & spl are below 2.00 i.e. 1.08 then you can simply use the tool "aWizard" to CID Unlock your phone, then download and update your rom to a official latest version as this will update your ipl & spl to above 2.00 which is needed when installing a "custom" rom Hope that makes some sense! If not just ask I'll try to answer the best I can.

ratcom said:
the easy way to tell if you have a G3 or G4 chipset if by looking at the numbers displayed at bootup.
G3 will look like this
ipl 1.08
spl 1.08
G4 will look like this
ipl 1.08.0001
spl 1.08.0001
if your ipl & spl are below 2.00 i.e. 1.08 then you can simply use the tool "aWizard" to CID Unlock your phone, then download and update your rom to a official latest version as this will update your ipl & spl to above 2.00 which is needed when installing a "custom" rom Hope that makes some sense! If not just ask I'll try to answer the best I can.
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excellent. thank you.
i thought it was G3 but couldn't remember. yes, it's listed as 1.08, nothing after.
yes, i understand i must update to the official version first. thanks. that's why i want to know if i can/should unlock now while i have this 1.x rom before i update.
is awizard better than lokiwiz 2.b? or 3.0? i'll look at awizard again.
does unlocking generally void warranties?

Yes, Unlocking does void warranties, but Service providers don't know to look for that. If you have problems with the phone, you "Can" exchange it through your Service Provider, but I find as long as you read up and follow direction, you will get better support for your phone Here on xda-dev.

ourmanritter said:
is awizard better than lokiwiz 2.b? or 3.0? i'll look at awizard again.
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Sorry you are right its lokiwiz for CID Unlocking! I had awizard on my mind lately because Ive been playing around dumping roms and changing the pool memory So yes you need lokiwiz to cid unlock!

ourmanritter said:
that's why i want to know if i can/should unlock now while i have this 1.x rom before i update.
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Yes you should unlock NOW because after updating to a 2.0 type rom its very much harder to cid unlock (in fact its impossible with going back to a 1.? version)

ourmanritter said:
lokiwiz 2.b? or 3.0?
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Use 2.b. The 3.0 version is for G4 Wizards.

thanks a lot guys. these are great answers. i hope some other noobs will check this out as i know this would help them.
one last question (i hope):
do i need to back up my current 1.8 rom? if i fully unlock now, then upgrade to t-mobile's rom, then flash a custom rom, i shouldn't need to go back to 1.8 right? even if i do, there seems to be plenty of availability for 1.x roms or apps to change the ipl/spl back, if my understanding is correct. if i need to send the phone in for repair etc, i can easily flash t-mobile's latest rom.
thanks again for your time.
side note: my phone just started experiencing an issue with the speaker/sound. after i unplugged the oem headset last time, i can't get any stock phone sounds, i.e. clicks when hitting buttons/sound when adjusting volume, including hearing the person i'm connected to. everything still works fine with the headset plugged in though. i've looked at all the settings and everything is normal or "on". the speaker still works because i can hear my programmed ring tones when someone calls, or any other sound i added for a particular operation. i'm thinking of hard resetting to see if that will fix it. i wanted to get this resolved before i start "hacking" the phone, in case i do need to take it in. any suggestions?
thanks again

i'll bump this once and then i'm going to start a new thread for help with problem i posted in the last post (bottom).
thanks guys...

This is a known issue across many HTC device types. Most likely it is a contact in your headphone jack being stuck/broken as if the headphones are still plugged in.
Options, from mild to severe:
1.) Try a Soft Reset with the headphones plugged in, then carefully remove the headphones. (This has been reported to be a solution as long as you won't be causing the problem again by using wired headphones.... )
2.) Contact cleaner (A special non-conductive cleaning product, available at any electronics store. Just ask for it.) has been suggested as a fix. Remove battery, let sit for 15 minutes to discharge stored electricity, spray just a little into headphone jack, let dry, reinstall battery, see if it works.
3.) Send phone in for repair.
Or, if more adventurous:
4.) Open phone housing and clean/repair headphone jack manually.
There may be other options, Google is your friend! (Try their advanced search, it's neat!)

blazoner said:
This is a known issue across many HTC device types. Most likely it is a contact in your headphone jack being stuck/broken as if the headphones are still plugged in.
Options, from mild to severe:
1.) Try a Soft Reset with the headphones plugged in, then carefully remove the headphones. (This has been reported to be a solution as long as you won't be causing the problem again by using wired headphones.... )
2.) Contact cleaner (A special non-conductive cleaning product, available at any electronics store. Just ask for it.) has been suggested as a fix. Remove battery, let sit for 15 minutes to discharge stored electricity, spray just a little into headphone jack, let dry, reinstall battery, see if it works.
3.) Send phone in for repair.
Or, if more adventurous:
4.) Open phone housing and clean/repair headphone jack manually.
There may be other options, Google is your friend! (Try their advanced search, it's neat!)
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thanks a lot. i'll try these...

i got some newb questions. i have searched but i'm still a lil confused. i have a g4 rom and i want to unlock it so i can change/flash the rom. any tips or can you guys point me in the right direction?

WRMG3 said:
i got some newb questions. i have searched but i'm still a lil confused. i have a g4 rom and i want to unlock it so i can change/flash the rom. any tips or can you guys point me in the right direction?
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Try the G4 forum? http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=343
--M

thanks i guess i never noticed the g4 section. after i posted i followed some links and found it lol. thanks though. tricky reading all this stuff and understanding it.

WRMG3 said:
i got some newb questions. i have searched but i'm still a lil confused. i have a g4 rom and i want to unlock it so i can change/flash the rom. any tips or can you guys point me in the right direction?
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here's the thread for lokiwiz 3, (for g4)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=265928&highlight=LOKIWIZ+3.0

holy **** i tottaly missed that post. i guess i have more reading to do on what the terms are and mean. thanks Ourman. thanks to everyone on this site. most sites aren't to friendly to newbs who ask a lot of questions. yeah i know to search and read and search and read but people miss things sometimes. thanks again

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shogun's 2.26 rom usb problem

ive installed Shogun_A_La_Carte_Cingular_WWE_2 rom in my wizzard ... and now i cant connect to active sync thru usb neither can i charge it .... its like my USB port is dead...
can ne1 tell me how to revive the usb port ...
or is dere ne other way to flash sum other rom on my wizzard ..... like i can get ne size of rom or cab file on my mem card ive got a 2gb one.
please help me here really scared
if it helps dis is all that it show s in the starting
ipl 1.05
spl 1.05
os 2.26 10.2
thanx waiting for ur replies
It's not a problem of the ROM. I did the exact same thing. It's a problem of the old bootloader with the newer ROM. I finaly got it corrected by going into bootloader mode and updating the ipl/spl to 2.xx. This corrected the problem and
the phone works great with Shogun's rom. Love it.
Here's your step by step anwser
I had installed the same software for a T Mobile MDA for a Cingular Network. The ROM disabled my sync and I was ****ting bricks because I could not update my ROM, nor make calls from my wizard.
step 1. turn off the device by holding down the power button on top of the phone.
Step 2. press the camera button (right hand side) and the power button at the same time to on the device.
Step 3. This puts the device into USB mode, which you will now plug in the USB cable. (the word "USB" will appear on the bottom of the pocket pc screen when it is configured to the computer.) Active Sync will not sync up to the pocket pc (remains grayed out on the computers title bar.)
step 4. download another ROM version. I downloaded cingular 2.26 shotgun (different version from your ROM, but made for cingular devices) FROM HERE ON, DO NOT DISCOUNT YOUR DEVICE FROM THE COMPUTER!!
step 5. Make sure the device is charged more than 50%, then click and run the ROM. Follow the update prompts; and the computer will recognize that the pocket pc is connected to the usb port, but active sync will be grayed out. Allow the software to be installed. remember, do not disconnect, because you could do serious damage to the bios bank chips and never be able to boot.
once it installs the software, you will be relieved to see the NEW ROM on the boot screen and you'll notice everything works beautiful again
YOU CAN NEVER BRICK A WIZARD, just place in it USB MODE and start over. For the intelligent people, backup your information with Active Sync if you dare to experienment with new ROMs.
GOOD LUCK MY FRIEND,
Adam
aoakes said:
YOU CAN NEVER BRICK A WIZARD, just place in it USB MODE and start over.
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If you screw your IPL/SPL then your Wizard will be bricked....just try
Molski
molski said:
If you screw your IPL/SPL then your Wizard will be bricked....just try
Molski
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Wouldn't it be better to release your ROMs without the IPL/SPL then? Would also save you the trouble of having separate G3 and G4 versions--please don't misunderstand me, I appreciate the work you and everyone else on this forum do with no expectation of payment, but it would seem we might all be better off ROM-upgrading without and IPL/SPL, at the very least it might save some noob like naeemwaqas who doesn't know any better...just my suggestion.
here is your answer from me... it has mostly been covered..
YES hold your camera button while powering on to put in bootloader mode
DO NOT FLASH MY ROM.. yet
YES download an official rom so that you can get the updated bootloaders
after that is complete then you can flash my rom...
I DID NOT include updated bootloaders because i didnt want for a noob with a G4 to brick their phone by flashing my rom.. my future releases will be labeled as G3 and G4.. if a noob screws it up from there then its not my fault
jorge_culv said:
Wouldn't it be better to release your ROMs without the IPL/SPL then? Would also save you the trouble of having separate G3 and G4 versions--please don't misunderstand me, I appreciate the work you and everyone else on this forum do with no expectation of payment, but it would seem we might all be better off ROM-upgrading without and IPL/SPL, at the very least it might save some noob like naeemwaqas who doesn't know any better...just my suggestion.
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but then if their IPL/SPL are of 1.xx versions, their upgrade also won't go so well. If only people would do their research before jumping into such dangerous thing..
vseehua said:
but then if their IPL/SPL are of 1.xx versions, their upgrade also won't go so well. If only people would do their research before jumping into such dangerous thing..
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but also your looking at this the wrong way... if the ipl/spl would have been included and if he had a G4 then he would now have a brick... however he is at a point to where he can recover from...
aoakes said:
I had installed the same software for a T Mobile MDA for a Cingular Network. The ROM disabled my sync and I was ****ting bricks because I could not update my ROM, nor make calls from my wizard.
step 1. turn off the device by holding down the power button on top of the phone.
Step 2. press the camera button (right hand side) and the power button at the same time to on the device.
Step 3. This puts the device into USB mode, which you will now plug in the USB cable. (the word "USB" will appear on the bottom of the pocket pc screen when it is configured to the computer.) Active Sync will not sync up to the pocket pc (remains grayed out on the computers title bar.)
step 4. download another ROM version. I downloaded cingular 2.26 shotgun (different version from your ROM, but made for cingular devices) FROM HERE ON, DO NOT DISCOUNT YOUR DEVICE FROM THE COMPUTER!!
step 5. Make sure the device is charged more than 50%, then click and run the ROM. Follow the update prompts; and the computer will recognize that the pocket pc is connected to the usb port, but active sync will be grayed out. Allow the software to be installed. remember, do not disconnect, because you could do serious damage to the bios bank chips and never be able to boot.
once it installs the software, you will be relieved to see the NEW ROM on the boot screen and you'll notice everything works beautiful again
YOU CAN NEVER BRICK A WIZARD, just place in it USB MODE and start over. For the intelligent people, backup your information with Active Sync if you dare to experienment with new ROMs.
GOOD LUCK MY FRIEND,
Adam
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You sir, are an idiot! And shouting such nonsense just proves my point. Please run away... and very fast before someone actually believes your bu!!!**** and bricks their device!
You sir got lucky, you obviously don't have a G4 phone, cause I double dog dare you to try such insanity on a G4.
I've flashed more phones than the average guy and I'm STILL careful.
I'm sure that you probably meant no harm but if you noticed, none of the chef's here have stated such BS...
molski said:
If you screw your IPL/SPL then your Wizard will be bricked....just try
Molski
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Heya molski, wanna go have a drink together and watch this loser cry in his beer after he "slips" ...
shogunmark said:
here is your answer from me... it has mostly been covered..
YES hold your camera button while powering on to put in bootloader mode
DO NOT FLASH MY ROM.. yet
YES download an official rom so that you can get the updated bootloaders
after that is complete then you can flash my rom...
I DID NOT include updated bootloaders because i didnt want for a noob with a G4 to brick their phone by flashing my rom.. my future releases will be labeled as G3 and G4.. if a noob screws it up from there then its not my fault
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Whoa, easy there samurai! My suggestion was directed at Molski, who as far as I can tell still packages up IPL/SPL in his ROMs unlike you. Thanks for pointing this crucial difference out to those who might not know otherwise.
And again, for Molski, this is just a suggestion--there have been plenty of ROM upgrades with IPL/SPL and the vast majority go fine, just seems like as a community we might want to consider doing things (like ROMs with no IPL/SPL for example) to protect newcomers. Now sure they might deserve it every now and again, and scaring the crap out of them might induce a healthy dose of "read before you leap", but could be avoided for this one situation.
jorge_culv said:
Whoa, easy there samurai! My suggestion was directed at Molski, who as far as I can tell still packages up IPL/SPL in his ROMs unlike you. Thanks for pointing this crucial difference out to those who might not know otherwise.
And again, for Molski, this is just a suggestion--there have been plenty of ROM upgrades with IPL/SPL and the vast majority go fine, just seems like as a community we might want to consider doing things (like ROMs with no IPL/SPL for example) to protect newcomers. Now sure they might deserve it every now and again, and scaring the crap out of them might induce a healthy dose of "read before you leap", but could be avoided for this one situation.
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which is why i dont... i may know quite a bit, but im not a master, i dont know it all (dont tell my wife) and dont include ipl/spl for that simple fact.. but can garuantee this guy will read more before experimenting again... its a good scare factor, and a good way to welcome him to the board
hehehe...this is how we learn. But in some countries you could be shot for spreading such blasphemy. Peace and love brothers.

i tried to update G4 rom using the Molski... now only rainbow screen

I cant do anything with it anymore. when i first turn it on the cingular screen comes on and then it goes into the rainbow (bootloader?). how do i fix it from here now?
nimski62 said:
I cant do anything with it anymore. when i first turn it on the cingular screen comes on and then it goes into the rainbow (bootloader?). how do i fix it from here now?
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You really need to post more information. Phone 'G' version, what ROM you were on before, service provider, whether or not you are certain your phone was unlocked (CID, etc). Otherwise, it is like asking 'why does it rain mainly on the plain in Spain?'
--M
How did you know it was a G4? Did you follow the instructions to the letter?
peraltah said:
How did you know it was a G4? Did you follow the instructions to the letter?
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I was pretty sure that i had seen this username before. If you look for the thread labeled "Please fix the link. Rom is needed." you will find this user asking for the link to be fixed and in the next post you see somebody (brooks.nl) providing him/her with a link to a G4 ROM. I'd say that the OP didn't know that there were G3 and G4 phones out there and now we see the results. Just another case of RTFM. Sad really
Kirby
if you are in rainbow (color mode) = bootloader, then it shows to you IPL and SPL
If you have in the ednd of it .0001, then your device is still alive.. Just download any official ROM for your Device and connect it via cabel with PC and the go just like it is connected via Active Sync.
Active Sync is not running, but the flash would be OK and your device alive again
And what if the IPL and SPL are 1.03...... I've tried to downgrade to unlock the sim, but it failed. Since than I have got the rainbow screen.
Can anyone please advice me what to do.....
I know.........RTFM.......
If it was a G4...
If the IPL/SPL before you started had .0001 on them then you have flashed an incompatible bootloader into your G4 device and have bricked it.
If your device was 1.03 to start with then it is a G3 and you flashed a 2.xx rom into a 1.xx bootloader which again doesn't work (G4 safe roms do not include the bootloaders.) In this situation you can recover your device by installing an official 2.xx carrier rom into your phone. And never mix bootloaders again Once this is done if you are CID unlocked then you will be able to install a custom 2.xx rom of your choice.
G3 and G4 bootloaders are not interchangeable. More G4 phones have been bricked on this forum than really should have been for this very reason, read, read, read and when you think you have read enough, read some more. If you have a G4 device the only way that I have read on these forums to CID unlock was to pay a fee to a website to do it for you - Which many people have done and report that it works well.
If your device was a G3 to start with then you might be able to re-flash an official carrier rom (from your carrier) into the phone to revive it. Check their customer service/support website for that information on where to download a release. If you are a Cingular customer you can download this rom from the HTC website (don't know about other carriers)
Things you really should know before you flash:
1. Is my device a G3 or G4?
2. Is my device a G3 or G4?
3. Is my device a G3 or G4?
4. Is my device a G3 or G4?
5. Am I willing to have a failure that will leave me with a worthless piece of electronics?
6. Do I have a real NEED to upgrade or change roms?
7. Have I read and understand how to unlock my phone (if not going with a carrier rom from the carrier to which your phone is locked.)
8. Do I know how to boot into bootloader mode?
9. Do I have a backup plan for re-charging the battery if it becomes discharged completely -- Shouldn't be necessary but lots of people including me have made a mistake and gotten their phones in a state where it will not charge.
10. Do I understand how the flash process works, where will it pause, how long will it pause, can I go without my phone for this period of time?
11. Have I spent a good deal of time reading as many threads on upgrading/flashing/unlocking/identifying as I can in a 2 week period. If you just got your phone.
12. Have I backed up all the information on my phone that I may or will need once the flash is successful?
13. Have I read the entire thread on the rom that I wish to install to see what issues others have encountered while downloading, installing, running/using and how they fixed or worked around them?
14. Is my device a G3 or G4 and do I have the appropriate rom?
Really, the people here aren't trying to be rude or jerks, the problem is that most newcomers to the boards jump in with both feet without reading all of the very well written tutorials and fully heeding the warnings included with them, and invariably they all ask THE SAME questions, because they either A. don't know how to search (yes, we all know the built in search function leaves alot to be desired. -- Use Google) B. are too lazy to search/read and want to be spoon fed. C. really believe that they are the first person to have said issue.
The sad fact is that most people that brick their phones have no good reason to have upgraded in the first place.
I hope your phone was indeed a G3 to start with and you can revive it with a carrier rom. If not then this is a very expensive lesson, and I am sorry that you had to learn it like so many others this way.
Zzan said:
If the IPL/SPL before you started had .0001 on them then you have flashed an incompatible bootloader into your G4 device and have bricked it.
If your device was 1.03 to start with then it is a G3 and you flashed a 2.xx rom into a 1.xx bootloader which again doesn't work (G4 safe roms do not include the bootloaders.) In this situation you can recover your device by installing an official 2.xx carrier rom into your phone. And never mix bootloaders again Once this is done if you are CID unlocked then you will be able to install a custom 2.xx rom of your choice.
G3 and G4 bootloaders are not interchangeable. More G4 phones have been bricked on this forum than really should have been for this very reason, read, read, read and when you think you have read enough, read some more. If you have a G4 device the only way that I have read on these forums to CID unlock was to pay a fee to a website to do it for you - Which many people have done and report that it works well.
If your device was a G3 to start with then you might be able to re-flash an official carrier rom (from your carrier) into the phone to revive it. Check their customer service/support website for that information on where to download a release. If you are a Cingular customer you can download this rom from the HTC website (don't know about other carriers)
Things you really should know before you flash:
1. Is my device a G3 or G4?
2. Is my device a G3 or G4?
3. Is my device a G3 or G4?
4. Is my device a G3 or G4?
5. Am I willing to have a failure that will leave me with a worthless piece of electronics?
6. Do I have a real NEED to upgrade or change roms?
7. Have I read and understand how to unlock my phone (if not going with a carrier rom from the carrier to which your phone is locked.)
8. Do I know how to boot into bootloader mode?
9. Do I have a backup plan for re-charging the battery if it becomes discharged completely -- Shouldn't be necessary but lots of people including me have made a mistake and gotten their phones in a state where it will not charge.
10. Do I understand how the flash process works, where will it pause, how long will it pause, can I go without my phone for this period of time?
11. Have I spent a good deal of time reading as many threads on upgrading/flashing/unlocking/identifying as I can in a 2 week period. If you just got your phone.
12. Have I backed up all the information on my phone that I may or will need once the flash is successful?
13. Have I read the entire thread on the rom that I wish to install to see what issues others have encountered while downloading, installing, running/using and how they fixed or worked around them?
14. Is my device a G3 or G4 and do I have the appropriate rom?
Really, the people here aren't trying to be rude or jerks, the problem is that most newcomers to the boards jump in with both feet without reading all of the very well written tutorials and fully heeding the warnings included with them, and invariably they all ask THE SAME questions, because they either A. don't know how to search (yes, we all know the built in search function leaves alot to be desired. -- Use Google) B. are too lazy to search/read and want to be spoon fed. C. really believe that they are the first person to have said issue.
The sad fact is that most people that brick their phones have no good reason to have upgraded in the first place.
I hope your phone was indeed a G3 to start with and you can revive it with a carrier rom. If not then this is a very expensive lesson, and I am sorry that you had to learn it like so many others this way.
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Congratulations you get it. This is a very well written piece that I hope all newcomers to this site read. Heck maybe we should make them read it before they can move forward. Just a thought.
Kirby
Zzan said:
If the IPL/SPL before you started had .0001 on them then you have flashed an incompatible bootloader into your G4 device and have bricked it.
If your device was 1.03 to start with then it is a G3 and you flashed a 2.xx rom into a 1.xx bootloader which again doesn't work (G4 safe roms do not include the bootloaders.) In this situation you can recover your device by installing an official 2.xx carrier rom into your phone. And never mix bootloaders again Once this is done if you are CID unlocked then you will be able to install a custom 2.xx rom of your choice.
G3 and G4 bootloaders are not interchangeable. More G4 phones have been bricked on this forum than really should have been for this very reason, read, read, read and when you think you have read enough, read some more. If you have a G4 device the only way that I have read on these forums to CID unlock was to pay a fee to a website to do it for you - Which many people have done and report that it works well.
If your device was a G3 to start with then you might be able to re-flash an official carrier rom (from your carrier) into the phone to revive it. Check their customer service/support website for that information on where to download a release. If you are a Cingular customer you can download this rom from the HTC website (don't know about other carriers)
Things you really should know before you flash:
1. Is my device a G3 or G4?
2. Is my device a G3 or G4?
3. Is my device a G3 or G4?
4. Is my device a G3 or G4?
5. Am I willing to have a failure that will leave me with a worthless piece of electronics?
6. Do I have a real NEED to upgrade or change roms?
7. Have I read and understand how to unlock my phone (if not going with a carrier rom from the carrier to which your phone is locked.)
8. Do I know how to boot into bootloader mode?
9. Do I have a backup plan for re-charging the battery if it becomes discharged completely -- Shouldn't be necessary but lots of people including me have made a mistake and gotten their phones in a state where it will not charge.
10. Do I understand how the flash process works, where will it pause, how long will it pause, can I go without my phone for this period of time?
11. Have I spent a good deal of time reading as many threads on upgrading/flashing/unlocking/identifying as I can in a 2 week period. If you just got your phone.
12. Have I backed up all the information on my phone that I may or will need once the flash is successful?
13. Have I read the entire thread on the rom that I wish to install to see what issues others have encountered while downloading, installing, running/using and how they fixed or worked around them?
14. Is my device a G3 or G4 and do I have the appropriate rom?
Really, the people here aren't trying to be rude or jerks, the problem is that most newcomers to the boards jump in with both feet without reading all of the very well written tutorials and fully heeding the warnings included with them, and invariably they all ask THE SAME questions, because they either A. don't know how to search (yes, we all know the built in search function leaves alot to be desired. -- Use Google) B. are too lazy to search/read and want to be spoon fed. C. really believe that they are the first person to have said issue.
The sad fact is that most people that brick their phones have no good reason to have upgraded in the first place.
I hope your phone was indeed a G3 to start with and you can revive it with a carrier rom. If not then this is a very expensive lesson, and I am sorry that you had to learn it like so many others this way.
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DING DING DING, we have a winner!!!! Well put.
--M
WOW guys.. i didnt brick anything. It IS a g4, but i wasnt aware of the CID stuff. I guess it just did the bootloader thing bc those roms needed the device to be CID unlocked. i installed wizard love's rom onit and it seems to be working perfectly. I would just like to know if there is any other roms with a different radio version.. bc sometimes if i randomly look at my device it will have 0 bars. would a diff radio version fix this?
nimski62 said:
WOW guys.. i didnt brick anything. It IS a g4, but i wasnt aware of the CID stuff. I guess it just did the bootloader thing bc those roms needed the device to be CID unlocked. i installed wizard love's rom onit and it seems to be working perfectly. I would just like to know if there is any other roms with a different radio version.. bc sometimes if i randomly look at my device it will have 0 bars. would a diff radio version fix this?
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Glad you got it working.
There are radio only roms that you can download and install but, I am not sure if you need to be CID unlocked to install them.
The latest Official Cingular radio and the one I am currently using (see my sig) are the ones I recommend.
These roms do not contain bootloaders, OS or extended rom so your settings are preserved when installing them and should be safe to install on a G4. But as always I would talk to someone/search through here for someone that knows more about flashing a G4 to see if you need to pay to get your CID unlocked.
you can flash the radio rom i flashed 2.47 radio rom and use the wizard love flash
okay so where exactly can i get the 2.47 radio rom?. also cant i use the risidoro ROM with my CID locked g4? or is that impossible?. where exactly would i find the 2.46 radio rom?

Maybe CID Lock problem ? NEED HELP !!!!

Hi, After the soft reset comand, I removed the battery from my Wizard. After that the followin problem was appear: the phone is bringing up to the splash screen and STOP on this position.I have tried to download another Rom but the problem still is the same. My Phone is not CID unlock and before this, I cooked own rom like is writen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271043 . So any idea how to wake-up my phone MDA Vario.
Ok forgive me if I'm wrong here, I don't really want to judge before I know the full story, but seems to me your brain went on strike momentarily. First rule of flashing any unofficial rom CID UNLOCK YOUR DEVICE. Anyways sorry, I just wanted to say something so it doesn't happen to you again, that said, what rom did you try to upgrade to? what rom did you try to downgrade to after that? is your device a G3 or G4?
If your device is a G3 I would recommend downgrading to this rom by xelecin
ftp://xda:[email protected]_RUU_Wizard_1081002_108_10910_ENG_US.exe
it will ask you if you want to CID unlock your device at the start so you shouldn't need to worry about forgetting this time , if you can't connect your device to activesync just go into the bootloader (hold the camera, voice dial buttons while pressing the reset button) and once it connects run the set-up.
Oh another thing before I forget..... do some searching and read up a bit, because this is a pretty common topic on this forum, best of luck and hope everything works out ok. If not, report back.
*edit* I just noticed the thread that you linked to, I actually wasn't aware that this was possible, but anyways I think it's still much safer to CID unlock your device if possible, and another thing you might try replying in that thread if it doesn't work out since they should be more knowledgeable in the matter..... and that would help keep the forums less cluttered *edit*
Thanks, for your help, Unfortunately you are totaly right for my stupid act (again). At first i tried to solve the problem alone , but whole day I roam through this forum to find solution but I can't find the same problem like my. Maybe because of my ..... brain .Anyway I am with G3. NOW I have
IPL 1.0
SPL 2.26
GSM 01.09.11
OS 1.5.4.2
This is after this procedure http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
I tried also to download also and Molski's 2.26.10.2 AKU2.3 Rom a.k.a. 2.26.10.2 Final Edition Rom, but the problem is the same : The splash screen is running and STOP and.... nothing.
I can go to bootloader and can download new rom, but I can't start fhe phone.
Yeah I know these forums aren't the easiest in which to look for info. So you can go into the bootloader, that's good. Don't try to go to a AKU2.x rom or later, keep it under that, so no 2.26 roms at all. 105, or 108 roms should be good.
Did you try the rom from the link I provided or the one on the thread? and afterwards did it go into the phone at all? My friends MDA had a similar problem last week, caused by the same thing, though in your case I see the SPL isn't updating when you install new roms on his it was the os that wasn't updating, but as soon as I installed that rom I recommended it booted up fine, then I updated his device to molski's 2.3.
I'll check back in a few so let me know how's it going.
Here's what you need to know & if you follow these instructions your prob will be solved.
The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Wish u best of luck.
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Here's what you need to know & if you follow these instructions your prob will be solved.
The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435
Wish u best of luck.
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Ok, but tell me how to solve this :
"qiote"
8. Open ActiveSync, Explore and copy enablerapi.cab from your PC's C:\ (remember that's where you extracted lokiwiz to...) to you device, I don't care where.
9. Pick up your PDA, File Explorer, find the enablerapi.cab and click it.
"quote"
I don't have access to the phone explorer and phone at all.
masr1979 I have tried the rom you give me, but it look like there is some things I don't understand: When I start the exe file i have choice <continue> .Whet I type <c> 2(two) time the soft tell me <no device found> and order me to continue with copy ???. After few seconds tell me that Unlocker ..... Done!, and start HTC wizard Unlocker and NOTHING !!! Stop on this position more then 15 min. and only the led for charging on the phone is active.
Forget all about unlocking. Until you can boot the device completely it'll never work.
Try and install an official 2.x ROM on your device.
My suspicion is that you originally has a G4 device, which is bad because if you DID have a G4 you have a brick now...
Can you remember your phones old ipl/spl? for your sake I hope it wasn't something in this format 2.XX.000X.
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Can you remember your phones old ipl/spl? for your sake I hope it wasn't something in this format 2.XX.000X.
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Of course I'm not sure, but I thing it was 2.21. Anyway did you think that is posible to cook my own rom in G4? I'm totally confused.
Every time when I upload new rom I have this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32884&stc=1&d=1168184491
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...and also this is my bootloader screen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=32885&stc=1&d=1168184491
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Forget all about unlocking. Until you can boot the device completely it'll never work.
Try and install an official 2.x ROM on your device.
My suspicion is that you originally has a G4 device, which is bad because if you DID have a G4 you have a brick now...
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Thanks, but I try to find oficial rom but without success. And very interesting thing I found.. when I start to upload new rom the soft start to check my old rom and after that tell me that i have GE (german) language, but my old was WWE ?
Is it posible some one to give me some link to official 2.x ROM but for T-mobile german language.
Well the other day I tried finding that german rom for a while.... that search was going nowhere, I saw this thread, I don't know if you might want to check into it and maybe try it out. There's mixed results apparently but who knows
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276963

Can somone please, going to cry in several seconds

my wizard is stuck at the ipl spl screen, i just tried to throm farias new rom on it even though it is cid locked (i used shelltool)
now this happened
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
i dont even know how to enter bootloader mode, i searched the forums but its so hard to find things, im serious, it's a problem ive had before, any help and i would love you
jawnsixteen said:
my wizard is stuck at the ipl spl screen, i just tried to throm farias new rom on it even though it is cid locked (i used shelltool)
now this happened
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
i dont even know how to enter bootloader mode, i searched the forums but its so hard to find things, im serious, it's a problem ive had before, any help and i would love you
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reset and hold the camera button,you will see a 3 color screen...connect to the PC it should say usb in the bottom of the device screen....now install the latest update from your carrier.
PS
for future reference if you device is ended CID unlocked you do not need to use shelltools...just use the update utility provided by the rom.
also this info has been posted 1 trilion times
..........
Its not that hard to look at the stickies (thats were the really important stuff is located).
Here's a great post for you to use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and it got stuck at 99%, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the sheeltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and when i powered on it wasn't your rom it was the one i had on it before with some things different, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the shelltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
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thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and it got stuck at 99%, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the sheeltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
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A really useful thread (besides the WIKI is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613 it, by the way, is the very first item on the WM6 forum, this forum has Dr. P's EXCELLENT thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 plus other useful stickies) It seems that your phone is 'working' after flashing the TMo 2.26, the first thing you need to do is find out if you have a G3 or a G4, then CID unlock appropriately. Skip the shelltool stuff for now, if you don't understand what phone you have, you will be on the road to "brick city".
--M
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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CID unlocking (as far as I know) won't void your warrantee--at least it hasn't voided mine (TMo US), but YMMV. That said, it isn't a bad thing to ask for help, (cross posting is generally frowned on) we like to help people who aren't lazy or stupid.
When you do post for help, generally the more info provided the better, but I sense you know that. If your phone is a G3, I am not really sure why you are seeking help in the G4 forum....anyway.
IMHO, Faria's WM6 works really well, and I haven't had serious issues with it. There are others that love different ROMs or will cook their own, great! Nottoosmart has a good looking ROM (a Mun derivative ROM) everyone will have an opinion, I know what works well for me. So "what is the best"? Hmm Faria's WM6 (for me).
--Mark
jawnsixteen said:
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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While keeping your phone CID Locked does keep you from voiding your warranty in that respect, flashing a custom rom on your phone will technically void your warranty also (although unless do something nasty to it, you should be able to get it back to the official rom and with it still CID locked then you should be fine). Example: You flash the latest and greatest WM6 on your phone and then your USB connector breaks and your SD slot doesn't work. You now can't get back to WM5 so they will know if they look. Far fetched, but I'm just throwing it out that if you are really concerned about your warranty, flashing custom roms may not be a good thing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to tell you not to do it, I'm just saying that doing pretty much anything in the upgrading and WM6 forums here is basically voiding your warranty. But I think in most cases, the carriers don't look that close.
And please ask for assistance when you have issues. There are so many posts though, its hard to tell who has really read and who hasn't sometimes. Just remember that the stickies at the top of the forums are your friends and there is really good info there to help you get unstuck (most of the time).
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Scared to post but I am stuck must take your wrath

Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?

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