I read some article about Vista that delaying me to bought it:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#functionality
What do you thing?
cornelius said:
I read some article about Vista that delaying me to bought it:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#functionality
What do you thing?
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I think just 1 thing:
DON'T BUY VISTA.....and if anyone give you Vista as a gift then throw them back or sell them away
if u like Windows, then Windows XP is the only way to stay in peace...
but i advise that Vista is only a hole...a hole in performances, a hole in our wallett (if u buy vista premium, a big hole for nothing) and a big hole in personal security...i think this is not a OS but a rootkit....
Have you seen this thread?
There is a link there to a podcast about vista. What all the security will do to speed and stability of your system.
My conclusion:
If the consumers are smart enough Vista will die.
Also:
XP and other windows versions owe their popularity in large part to the fact that there are plenty of cracked versions.
If vista doesn't get cracked (mainly cause no one bothers to put in the effort) it won't gain popularity.
lol... Vista was cracked before it was released! I agree though, I've got it installed and it's just not worth it at all... I use pc mainly for creating audio and Vista's put a huge dent in audio processing. My very expensive professional soundcard is pretty much useless as M$ now say that they've decided the way everyone's been routing sound to cards is now not in their plans and they'd like Vista to take on the responsibility - yeah, well, it's pretty poor Bill... maybe you should leave this kinda stuff up to the professionals???!!!
It's all down to Vista's supposed "Security Features", but I've read a lot of reports outlining the hole's in it, basically saying it's completely meaningless. It causes problems with Networking, Audio, and performance that just can't be justified. He's gone and released it WAY before it's ready, same as always. Users will be inundated with updates until finally it starts working like XP now does, by which time he'll have another official part-release ready on the market.
Stay clear of Vista for now if you use your PC for anything more than word processing
Anything M$ related check out http://www.mydigitallife.info/ Excellent site!
P.S.... a guy on this forum has as his signature ""Microsoft". Nice of Bill to name the company after his manhood". Thought that was quite apt
Buy a Mac and all of your security issues are solved.
Windowsrookie said:
Buy a Mac and all of your security issues are solved.
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A Mac couldn't support my needs even if it wanted to
hmmmmmm
Windowsrookie said:
Buy a Mac and all of your security issues are solved.
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Why is it that one of the first things that happens when someone warns about a bug in an update to something pc related, someone says get a Mac.. or Stick to Linux??
no to kick off a huge flamer between PC's, Macs & Linux freaks.. however..
Its getting old...
Juggles said:
Why is it that one of the first things that happens when someone warns about a bug in an update to something pc related, someone says get a Mac.. or Stick to Linux??
no to kick off a huge flamer between PC's, Macs & Linux freaks.. however..
Its getting old...
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I love these arguments as I use and like all three
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I love these arguments as I use and like all three
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ROFL That's just greedy...
Macs are just as misleading!
Windowsrookie said:
Buy a Mac and all of your security issues are solved.
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The ad on tv with the mac and pc is misleading and I'm ticked. I tried to replace a HD on an iBook... wow! Good thing I have a COMPUTER SCIENCE degree. 2.5 hours just to get to the hard drive. Why? because they want more money from you.
Anyway, I am actually pretty excited about getting vista for one of my computers.
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The ad on tv with the mac and pc is misleading and I'm ticked. I tried to replace a HD on an iBook... wow! Good thing I have a COMPUTER SCIENCE degree. 2.5 hours just to get to the hard drive. Why? because they want more money from you.
Anyway, I am actually pretty excited about getting vista for one of my computers.
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I am not sure what ad it is you are referring to, and I don't mean to sound rood but is the time it takes to replace a part relay the driving consideration in what type of computer to get?
And even if so what does that have to do with the OS?
I may not have a degree but I open my PC every 6 month or so, if not to add / change component then just to dust it out and given the amount of peripherals connected to it, it can take 10 minutes just to unplug and then plug back all the cables (two of the big non USB annoyances are UPS status and capture card IR that use serial connectors).
At any rate, I understand the whole "I am switching to Mac / Linux etc." rants. And sorry I don't want to insult anybody but lets face it: in most cases you're just gonna stick with your XP box because getting used to a new OS is not a simple matter. (We have a MAC, don't remember specific model, at work and I got to play with it a couple of times - shortage of mouse buttons drove me crazy How can you live without 'right click'???)
But seriously you may not be switching right now but the point of it all is that there are viable (if not as popular) alternatives to M$ crap regardless of hardware architecture and that is a very comforting thought.
P.S. Here is what I can tell you about my experience with Vista:
We put a Beta on one of the stations at work (it came with our MSDN subscription). The Pentium 4 2.4GHz 258 MB machine ran at a tolerable speed (though I now know it wasn't quite up to specs for this OS), but after a week we needed it for doing real work so it was formatted back to XP.
I have tested on AthlonXP 2500+, 1 Gb ram DDR 400 MHz, Geforce FX5600 Ultra, and after a week of testing I've determined that it works 2-3 times slower than XP, i will not sacrifice performance over crappy security, silly GUI effects and poor compatiblity
My mother in law (a non technical person) just bought a new laptop pre loaded with vista. She complained that it works much worse than her old xp laptop and decided to just take it back for a refund.
I hope the same thing happens a million times and all those refunds will out weight the gains they are hoping for in cornering the drm video market.
The evil in vista is just a sign of the wider decay in American civil liberties. I normally would not care but now thanks to America pushing wipo onto Australia in order to get a trade deal, all that American evil is heading my way.
I do not think copyright crimes should be criminal offenses. Vista, DRM, DMCA, RIAA and so call anti terror laws are crushing ordinary people. They use copyright as a door into peoples lives to persecute them for any other thing they can find along the way.
I would like to see an open source p2p searchable anonymous adhoc wireless network program. That way free people around the world could create and grow an alternate network to rival the internet that no one could use to slam someone in jail. Each users copy of the program could be compiled with a unique identifier that lets it be addressed over the network but in no way ties in to their real identity. If enough people used it it could work, some with enough protection could set up gateways into the real internet to join the two networks.
This may sound stupid now but IMO lack of anonymity in ip based networks will eventually spell the end of them.
what kind of world do we live in where a person needs to run oftware from an encrypted volume within a virtual pc on a pc with ip blocking software and software and hardware firewalls just to feel that big brother won't be able to get at your stuff when they secretly break into your house and ransack it while your at work (as they are allowed to do in Aus under anti terror laws). Seriously!
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I have tested on AthlonXP 2500+, 1 Gb ram DDR 400 MHz, Geforce FX5600 Ultra, and after a week of testing I've determined that it works 2-3 times slower than XP, i will not sacrifice performance over crappy security, silly GUI effects and poor compatiblity
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lol... freaky! I've got the same specs just another .5 Gb of RAM. I've actually gone back to XP too.
I think Vista has great potential overall, but it's just not ready... give it a year and people will be raving about it (by then it should have two or three service packs )
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How about os2
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vista on my old C64
to break his rock-solid security
May be it's not time for go to VISTA, wait for SP maybe 6th will fix this, and I tested it with Vista on PC, core 2 duo (errr forgot the speed coz it's office PC), than other PC with same spec run on XP, who the XP performance far better...
Weird, I have 3 machines running Windows Vista Ultimate and are working great, 1 Dell Inspiron(Intel Centrino, 1GB ram), 1 Sony VAIO(Pentium 4 512Mb ram) and 1 PC (AMD, 1Gb ram), all of you, did you change the performance in control panel? Maybe that is your slow Vista....All my drivers are OK...
And all are Vista Cra**ed.....
Speaking of drivers... Microsoft have recommended to device manufacturers/driver writers to avoid creating unified device drivers while at the same time shipping vista with unified drivers. What hypocrisy. They reserve the right to automatically revoke your drivers at any time, with the potential of bricking your machine but don't even follow their own guidelines set out to avoid large scale simultaneous revocations.
One reason it runs slow is that once every millisecond (1000th of a second) vista checks every component to see if it is secure (for drm). This is a lot to be doing on a permanent basis. Its not the only reason it runs slow, because vista is over time learning the patterns of usage for an individual it starts to try and keep a lot of stuff loaded in memory. This is not a bad thing but unless you have 3-4 gig it dose not function as well leading to a slow down.
I just don't like the direction all this drm is going. For me it has little to do with piracy and more to do with freedom. I do not want to be living in a time where a book can be revoked so that it can no longer be read because a government or dictator has decided to use drm to control public opinion. I want to live in a time where competition decides what survives in the market place and not drm/dmca monopolies.
XP works very well there is no reason to change (to vista).
Be Free
OdeeanRDeathshead said:
Speaking of drivers... Microsoft have recommended to device manufacturers/driver writers to avoid creating unified device drivers while at the same time shipping vista with unified drivers. What hypocrisy. They reserve the right to automatically revoke your drivers at any time, with the potential of bricking your machine but don't even follow their own guidelines set out to avoid large scale simultaneous revocations.
One reason it runs slow is that once every millisecond (1000th of a second) vista checks every component to see if it is secure (for drm). This is a lot to be doing on a permanent basis. Its not the only reason it runs slow, because vista is over time learning the patterns of usage for an individual it starts to try and keep a lot of stuff loaded in memory. This is not a bad thing but unless you have 3-4 gig it dose not function as well leading to a slow down.
I just don't like the direction all this drm is going. For me it has little to do with piracy and more to do with freedom. I do not want to be living in a time where a book can be revoked so that it can no longer be read because a government or dictator has decided to use drm to control public opinion. I want to live in a time where competition decides what survives in the market place and not drm/dmca monopolies.
XP works very well there is no reason to change (to vista).
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DRM important but it doesn't mean lock our freedom to get info etc, and ofcource they souldn't control costumer!!!!
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I just downloaded SyncMate to sync my Kaiser to my Mac at work, but when I plug my phone in, it doesn't see it. It's listed in the system profiler, but that's it.
Anyone try this yet?
I depend on syncmate being on a mac mini while relocating tot he east coast. I have been using this software for a bout a month now on a MBP, mac mini and an imac. All seemed to locate the device without a problem. It will try to load a driver to your tilt. have you seen that occur yet. I am still trying to decide if I am brave enough to flash from my SD or if there is a way to do it with syncmate (although doubtful seeing that most kitchen's rely on executables most likely crafted in VBs environments).
Long story short, works for me. Mac OSX 10.5(x).
Good luck.
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I depend on syncmate being on a mac mini while relocating tot he east coast. I have been using this software for a bout a month now on a MBP, mac mini and an imac. All seemed to locate the device without a problem. It will try to load a driver to your tilt. have you seen that occur yet. I am still trying to decide if I am brave enough to flash from my SD or if there is a way to do it with syncmate (although doubtful seeing that most kitchen's rely on executables most likely crafted in VBs environments).
Long story short, works for me. Mac OSX 10.5(x).
Good luck.
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Haven't tried syncmate, I use Missing sync with great results. I use Windows XP and Bootcamp for all rom related downloads to my Tilt from my Mac.
Cannot flash from a OSX
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393869
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393869
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It's sad to think most developers are limited in their perspectives. your question is one I have been asking since I bought my tilt. I am very much pro apple and the iPhones have not lured me yet, althought I am finally getting tempted, if the SDK portions didn't have to go through apple's engineering and legal process (my intelecctual property rights are demolished by their agreements).
I'm trying to not through up a virtual win(x) environ on this mac min as it is my wife's and in a few days I'll have a new mbp or mb (depends on what I can convince my new employer that I get, tho they are pro win(x) so hoping for the mbp so I can bootcamp and ReFit it).
I side with not a Treo fan. I don't know the HTC framework well enough to confidently state that it could be done. Given my wife and son are back trying to sell our home in Utah and I am in CT, means I have time to investigate. I will look.
Again, I like SyncMate, but have heard great things about Missing sync, too. You're one of many that like that application. Me being the cheapskate I am (I prefer the term frugal), I like SyncMate and it's overall design, look and feel.
Here's to happy flashing natively in OSX soon
Hey Guys.
Long time reader. Sometimes contributer. Tried cooking my own one weekend... Failed a bunch of times, realized that there are way more talented people cooking roms that are better then mine.
My question to the community is this. What do you have, can you do with, or make your Windows Moble Phone do that will really WOW a regular windows mobile user such as myself?!
Linux/Google Android is getting close to complete and it is a new interface but it still doesn't really WOW?! Windows Mobile 7? when? where? what will THAT look like? Anyone controlling their house? lights? garage door? climate conditions? Anyone have a Kaiser that transforms into a tiny bot with a gatlling gun? I mean what does it take to really impress someone with a Kaiser?
Since the 8525 came out and even a little before (verizon 6600, 6700, 6800 & treo 700w) I have been addicted to flashing my phone to find a faster, better looking and more reliable rom. Threaded SMS, good job. Better Photo Album software, awesome. Something other then the default file explorer, pocket ie and media player, FANTASTIC! more RAM and ROM space, higher MicroSD capacity, totally cool! but I'm at the point where you just want more! It's like some addictive drug I guess.
anyone want me to be a tester?! for anything? where do i sign up?
now that i re-read this.. maybe i should have put this in the general forum...
ehr... How about you try installing that Manilla-thingy?
Wow effect kinda depends on what you're used to..
Hope you find your 'WOW!' ...and let us all know ;-) Good luck!
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Hey Guys.
Long time reader. Sometimes contributer. Tried cooking my own one weekend... Failed a bunch of times, realized that there are way more talented people cooking roms that are better then mine.
My question to the community is this. What do you have, can you do with, or make your Windows Moble Phone do that will really WOW a regular windows mobile user such as myself?!
Linux/Google Android is getting close to complete and it is a new interface but it still doesn't really WOW?! Windows Mobile 7? when? where? what will THAT look like? Anyone controlling their house? lights? garage door? climate conditions? Anyone have a Kaiser that transforms into a tiny bot with a gatlling gun? I mean what does it take to really impress someone with a Kaiser?
Since the 8525 came out and even a little before (verizon 6600, 6700, 6800 & treo 700w) I have been addicted to flashing my phone to find a faster, better looking and more reliable rom. Threaded SMS, good job. Better Photo Album software, awesome. Something other then the default file explorer, pocket ie and media player, FANTASTIC! more RAM and ROM space, higher MicroSD capacity, totally cool! but I'm at the point where you just want more! It's like some addictive drug I guess.
anyone want me to be a tester?! for anything? where do i sign up?
now that i re-read this.. maybe i should have put this in the general forum...
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i run HARET and everyone goes WOW!
here's a list of what made me go "wow!" over the years: htc home, htc cube.throttlelauncher,spb mobile shell,android,etc up until touchflo3d aka manila2d which is the last coolest thing i played with.
manilla 2d
andriod
a little program called basils smser is alot of fun, its a bomber flooder, type what message you want to send and how many times you want to send it. it also has practical uses such as voting for american idol haha i got just over 20 thousand votes in for the last finale
another program called oist allows you to remotely control your phone through txt messages
SKYFIRE! the skyfire revolution my friend is a must
the panoramic camera function is fun to play with
also their is a program that you take a picture of a buisnes card and it automatically picks everything up and fills in all the information.....
a prgram that acts as a remote for your tv.....
their is alot of stuff out their really..... with windows mobile if you can imagine it there is just about a program to do it
you know what? ...... almost everytime someone posts something different here on XDA... its makes me go WOW.....why? you ask? becuase its windows based! (meaning we can rape the [email protected]$# out of it...haha) and i love not having restrictions at all as we do with these phones in general..... so when someone ask me to get away from htc or windows based phones... i say HELLLLL NOOOO just for that reason!!!!!
ps.... if you do your research you would be able to ask for a #2 with no tomatoes if you wanted it to...... hypothetically speaking!!!!!
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you know what? ...... almost everytime someone posts something different here on XDA... its makes me go WOW.....why? you ask? becuase its windows based! (meaning we can rape the [email protected]$# out of it...haha) and i love not having restrictions at all as we do with these phones in general..... so when someone ask me to get away from htc or windows based phones... i say HELLLLL NOOOO just for that reason!!!!!
ps.... if you do your research you would be able to ask for a #2 with no tomatoes if you wanted it to...... hypothetically speaking!!!!!
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here's a list of what made me go "wow!" over the years: htc home, htc cube.throttlelauncher,spb mobile shell,android,etc up until touchflo3d aka manila2d which is the last coolest thing i played with.
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My list is shorter:
when I got my first WM 2003 SE PocketPC for Phone Edition (or whatever that horrible name was) I expected and waited for BSOD for about a week until I finally shook my head in disbelief it didn't happen
And I'm with WinMo since - that's my one and only WOW...
@ OP
Don't be naive. It's a Windoze mini computer with a phone. The worst existing Operating System on the market, perhaps ever in the computing history. Isn't it a "WOW!" already? It's a miracle in itself that it works
And as previous poster said - that's also exactly why we all use it, don't we? To have possibility to hack, crack, f*ck and whatever else we can with it. Same as with our big computers. We use linux for daily stuff (or a Mac at worst, if youre into eyecandy limited crap), and Windozes for the apps that are handy and not avail. there. Its exactly the same with our small computers, aka PPC or Smartphones.
So, honestly, if youre into WinMo phones for some "kewl" "wow factor", youre in the wrong place, and with wrong device in your hand.
I say go get an iCrap 3G and start pleasuring it (/edit: I mean fingering it, like all those Apple nuts do) and start showing off if you're into "wow" instead of what you can do with it or use it for , and of course if you're not the last on the block to have that crappy "i" phone that consists entirely of "kewl" look but no substance at all ;-) ... because seriously, as far as "kewl factor" goes, no one beats Apple (in both uselessness and "wow" factor in the same time) and current "best looking UI" on WinMo - Manila - (notice I didn't say it is best at all, just best looking) is still not as cool as iPoo's UI (because it can NOT be - can you even imagine using i.e. Word or Excel with just touch screen and no stylus? Not to mention lack of copy'n'paste ROTFL)
And don't count on Android. As linux-based OS, it will never be as popular as cranky WinMo - because most people use Windozes and ppl stick with what they know usually. I'm sure it will be best and most stable OS out of all mobile platforms, yet it won't be more popular in the mobile world than linux is among PC users (I wish I'm wrong...)
If anything - maybe one day that old Symbian, if it still have some juice left in it, may surprise us one day with stable and "WOW'y" OS...
Just my 0.02
oh and yeah, why is it in development? Im not even sure it even fits "general", it should have been in iPhone section... oh yeah <smack myself in the head> thankfully we don't have any iPoo section
I can lock and unlock my car doors, open my car doors, roll my windows up and down, start the engine, turn it off, turn on and off the headlights and control my stereo from my WinMo's touch screen. details are to be remain in my head since it took me a year to make it possible. When I show it to people, I don't just get a "WOW" I get lots of "HOLY **** "
cproaudio yesterday.
my wow
winmobile torrent but i would like to find a program that will convert video files on the kaiser directly without the need for a comp.
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I can lock and unlock my car doors, open my car doors, roll my windows up and down, start the engine, turn it off, turn on and off the headlights and control my stereo from my WinMo's touch screen. details are to be remain in my head since it took me a year to make it possible. When I show it to people, I don't just get a "WOW" I get lots of "HOLY **** "
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I always knew that the first 'K' in KITT stood for Kaiser...
Hello XDA-Developers,
I have to write something about Bill Gates & Steve Jobs.
For that I need some Polls
Would be nice if you could help me, just vote
First Poll:
[22.01 Which Microsoft OS' you like most?]
I made my vote...but if you had windows 7 as a choice it would've been my pick.
Windows for Workgroups 3.11
My vote goes to XP, the best OS i have ever seen, vista and W-Se7en are the biggest POS ever built
xp for me.....well x64 xp
but having to use vista at home....i miss xp
What about Windows 7 ?! It's the best OS ever made.
Should of had WinNT in that list.
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Should of had WinNT in that list.
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which version, there were several?
but dos was the best os. nice and stable.. and plenty fast.
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but having to use vista at home....i miss xp
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if you miss it then dual boot, that should give you your "xp-fix".
but if you have a core2 duo or above with 2gb or more memory and a sensible video card vista will run petty nice.
I've gotten so used to vista so when I go over to my friend's house I get pissed because I have to use xp. it's the truth, so I think I know what you're going through but in reverse.
on my rig I wouldn't dear desecrate it's inner tubes with xp. I don't mean to start a flame war but I had to say it.
vista is good on up to date hardware, well actually the only things that really needs to upgrade in the system is the video card and memory, even an old p4 would run it well.
I setup my brother's rig with a 939 socket athlon 3500, 2gb mem and an nvidia 8600gt and vista ran smoothly. (and this isn't even up to date hardware)
the key for better vista performance is: add more memory!
does anyone remember when xp just came out and OEMs shipped it with 256mb memory and it ran like molases? and how there was a huge hoopla about it until they started shipping them with 512mb? but in reality the sweet spot for xp was 1gb memory or more. it's the same thing with vista now, people try to run it on 1gb memory when the sweet spot is 2gb or more.
the driver issues was the manufacturers' fault because they sat on their asses until the last minute, but that issue has been ironed out for a while now so that shouldn't be a problem anymore.
I know others have a lot to say about the reason they prefer xp. but it all boils down to a user's preference.
PS: I know there are passionate people here so if anyone is going go reply to my post please leave the flame-throwers at home.
worst thing with old nt4 was that one could not reinstall it without a format
so if it required a reinstall you'd best have a full backup of your data
Another vote for Vista. Currently running 64 and 32 versions at home (gaming PC and HTPC), as well as XP (Laptop) and W2K (photoframe) so have lots of experience of each.
Just as Lennie said, so long as Vista has enough RAM to operate it's lovely. I've gotten so used to it's new little shortcuts that I find XP cumbersome now sometimes. Please don't take this as dissing XP, it's still a lovely system, but Vista was built as an improvement on XP and I personally think they succeeded.
Haven't tried W7 yet, guess I probably will if it starts gaming better than Vista.
Again - this is my own opinion and not a salvo in a flame war. If you love XP over Vista, so long as you're talking from experience and not prejudice then fair play to you.
Thank you for your post and answers
I will open a new thread in the day.
But first I need a idea for a poll about Apple Products
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But first I need a idea for a poll about Apple Products
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Does the hype surrounding all Apple products make you more likely to buy them, or less?
Who do you feel has the control at Apple:
- The engineers
- The consumer research dept
- The marketing dept
Or simply, in your experience did your Apple product live up to your expectations?
I'd be interested to see the answers to those personally.
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Now that Steve Jobs has taken a medical leave of absence, soon to retire ( pancreatic cancer ) , what will become of Apple?
1). Apple will keep on it's current path, because it's products are superior in quality and design, no matter who runs the company.
2). Apple will lose it's lustre because the product quality and design will go down hill under new management
3).The products have always been crap, Steve Jobs is just the ultimate salesman, so goodbye Apple market share.
4). The Apple mystique is ingrained , it is not about Steve Jobs or the quality and design, the Apple fanbois will continue to buy no matter what.
Or something like that.
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Now that Steve Jobs has taken a medical leave of absence, soon to retire ( pancreatic cancer ) , what will become of Apple?
3).The products have always been crap, Steve Jobs is just the ultimate salesman, so goodbye Apple market share.
4). The Apple mystique is ingrained , it is not about Steve Jobs or the quality and design, the Apple fanbois will continue to buy no matter what.
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I second this
5) on the desktop market apart from fancy games more and more tasks are moved
to the browser and google is having a field day apple vs. ms is becoming less and less
and issue apart from on the mobile platform where browsers are less easy to access then dedicated apps
so it's iphone vs. wm rather then macosx vs. windows now
According to this article.
I personally think this won't affect the Windows PC sales, I don't even think this will happen, but what if Mac OSX became the dominant OS of the market? What does XDA think this means for the future of computing?
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According to this article.
I personally think this won't affect the Windows PC sales, I don't even think this will happen, but what if Mac OSX became the dominant OS of the market? What does XDA think this means for the future of computing?
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It doesn't mean too too much. It basically means that Apple is THOUGHT to be more profitable and a smarter investment. Microsoft still nets more in the long run. And don't worry about the dominant OS, that's not even CLOSE.
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It doesn't mean too too much. It basically means that Apple is THOUGHT to be more profitable and a smarter investment. Microsoft still nets more in the long run. And don't worry about the dominant OS, that's not even CLOSE.
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XP and Vista rock....i use both of them and mac is boooooo....i use them at school and not satifactory just complicated
Spoiled apples will never be bigger then Microsoft!
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Spoiled apples will never be bigger then Microsoft!
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You mean soiled? Haha
in the first 2 months Microsoft sold more win7 copies than all OSX together. what thread are we talking about ? lol
Market cap is a contruct of the stock market. Apple will not be bigger in:
User base
# of employees
Gross revenues
The market loves Apple, it hates Microsoft. There are numerous reasons, but market cap is not really a number that I feel holds a great deal of water in calculating company size. Just ask Enron - market cap has a funny way of being able to fluctuate quickly...
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According to this article.
I personally think this won't affect the Windows PC sales, I don't even think this will happen, but what if Mac OSX became the dominant OS of the market? What does XDA think this means for the future of computing?
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That will take ages to happen, if happens...
I personally don´t care about mac...
Mac's price point will ALWAYS mean that they will never, ever take over Windows.
Why in your right mind would you spend $2000+ to get a mac when you could get better hardware for the same or lower price.
kenikh said:
Market cap is a contruct of the stock market. Apple will not be bigger in:
User base
# of employees
Gross revenues
The market loves Apple, it hates Microsoft. There are numerous reasons, but market cap is not really a number that I feel holds a great deal of water in calculating company size. Just ask Enron - market cap has a funny way of being able to fluctuate quickly...
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Exactly!
khsbenny said:
Mac's price point will ALWAYS mean that they will never, ever take over Windows.
Why in your right mind would you spend $2000+ to get a mac when you could get better hardware for the same or lower price.
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Exactly!
Just cheap speculations.
khsbenny said:
Mac's price point will ALWAYS mean that they will never, ever take over Windows.
Why in your right mind would you spend $2000+ to get a mac when you could get better hardware for the same or lower price.
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+1
you get the best pc game with the most advance graphics and 1 tb or 1500$ or even cheaper
i mean i know mac is never going to take over windows, but i have a mac
1) they are not confusing just have to learn how to use it like using linux or a new phone os.
2) the os is quicker i've had my 2.26 dual core 4gb ram macbook pro booting quicker than a 2.26 quad core windows 7 machine.
do you want me to go on?
slaming said:
i mean i know mac is never going to take over windows, but i have a mac
1) they are not confusing just have to learn how to use it like using linux or a new phone os.
2) the os is quicker i've had my 2.26 dual core 4gb ram macbook pro booting quicker than a 2.26 quad core windows 7 machine.
do you want me to go on?
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No need to, no one cares anymore
@"Apple Will Be a Bigger Company Than Microsoft This Summer "
Yeah right!!
i wonder why steve jobs never has normal hair, does he love to be bold? just came to my mine....
bold........ i dont think so ..........
Bald........ might be
I honestly see Linux getting bigger than apple this summer.
Noone will touch MS for a very, very long time.
Dont slam me with me being a fanboy, I cant stand windows - But I HAVE to use it.
slaming said:
i mean i know mac is never going to take over windows, but i have a mac
1) they are not confusing just have to learn how to use it like using linux or a new phone os.
2) the os is quicker i've had my 2.26 dual core 4gb ram macbook pro booting quicker than a 2.26 quad core windows 7 machine.
do you want me to go on?
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Apple, confusing?? Who the hell said that.
One of my problems with apple is that it always feels dumbed down.
That and they're lack of FREEDOM!
To hell with tibet, FREE APPLE USERS!
lonelykatana said:
Apple, confusing?? Who the hell said that.
One of my problems with apple is that it always feels dumbed down.
That and they're lack of FREEDOM!
To hell with tibet, FREE APPLE USERS!
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i did read earlier someone did hate how mac was confusing, and don't feel locked down at all with my mac maybe i would with an iphone but defiantly not on a mac.
Macs are good, but wont be the dominating "PC".
I personally don't get why the iPad sales are so high...its a pointless piece of hardware...
Hi all!
Can anyone tell me if there is there such as thing like a Plex server but for documents? Where I can view my PDFs, word docs, sheets etc from anywhere?
I want to keep my files locally I don't want to upload anything to the cloud. I would like it to set it up just like plex. I want to be able to organize in a similar way, and to be able to view them on click.
TY!
Not sure if that actually applies to your needs, could be overkill, but how about Next Cloud:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nextcloud
https://alternativeto.net/software/nextcloud/about/
Most people probably use a provider for it but you could also run it yourself. If you want to try it beforehand, tab.digital offers accounts with 8GB for free:
https://tab.digital/
Even though I'd like to set it up myself in the long run and keep files locally only, just like you said, DIY comes with two nagging disadvantages:
1. You need to keep a server running (with permanent connection to the outside world)
2. You and only you are responsible for setting it up and keeping it up to date.
Hey Sigmund! TY so much for answering
I am going to give this a go. I did see a post on reddit and someone also mentioning NextCloud.
I was hoping for something for like an installer and done but I will give it a go. Well, let me try it first on tab.digital
Big thanks really! Much appreciated
Ken
Do you want to use documents inside a local network or over the internet ?
karandpr said:
Do you want to use documents inside a local network or over the internet ?
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Hey!
Both
If something like Plex existed for docs, that would be awesome
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installer
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Well, yes, of course:
https://nextcloud.com/install/#install-clients
However, this would be just a client and as such you still need a server, either your own or an "official" one like from tabdigital
Speaking of tabdigital, there are other providers with free plans:
https://nextcloud.com/sign-up/
Due to the addictive nature of next cloud, I don't think it matters much for the beginning where you get started (for me, greedy as I am, the 8GB was way too intriguing) - in the end you end up with more
Perhaps something else like OwnCloud could work for you as well but I cannot say much about it (it lost out in my personal shoot out, don't remember exactly why but I think it was something regarding open source).
Here be even more:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_file_synchronization_software
For simple mirroring syncthing might be good enough (for example to keep shadow copies of your files on your router's USB-stick):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syncthing
(since you mentioned plex, I guess that wouldn't be good enough for you)
PS: Oh, and let us know how you like it!
Edit: Oi! Forgot one thing - as for "office" like word etc, it can get kinda complicated because often it's only available in paid accounts.
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Hey!
Both
If something like Plex existed for docs, that would be awesome
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You can get a cloud host like digital ocean / linode /ovh and setup a basic FTP server. (it's 5-6$ a month for 40GB )
Then use something like Fx Explorer or file explorer to download and upload files.
Or Just get a pair of external hard drives.
They work with far fewer hassles and are much more robust.
As long as you maintain them regularly.
Thank you both for your replies.
Seems the closest I will find is NextCloud: I played around with it for a bit and it seems that it could do the trick in the end
@KenPino Welcome
karandpr said:
it's 5-6$ a month for 40GB
Or Just get a pair of external hard drives.
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Hmm, I have currently 80GB for about 60€/a (5€/month) for Next Cloud.
Pro: I don't have to take care of it myself
Contra: It does only Next Cloud.
Alternative: Own little server at home... Since you mentioned external drives, may I ask if and how you would do it? Can't imagine you would let run your machine/drives all day and night long?
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@KenPino Welcome
Hmm, I have currently 80GB for about 60€/a (5€/month) for Next Cloud.
Pro: I don't have to take care of it myself
Contra: It does only Next Cloud.
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The problem is data centers are either very easy to maintain or very hard. Suddenly you can have a data center being sold off to big vendor or just shutting down.
Sometimes countries create laws that make running a data center a hassle. And they would rather bailout than maintain.
IMO , if you have data > 20 GB, then local backups are the safest way to go.
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Can't imagine you would let run your machine/drives all day and night long?
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Alternative: Own little server at home... Since you mentioned external drives, may I ask if and how you would do it? Can't imagine you would let run your machine/drives all day and night long?
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Memes apart. Storage is cheap.
SD cards, USB drives. and few external drives.
The important stuff is backed up on 2+ storage options.
SD cards can be used on phones and PC.
Got 2x 256 GB USB drives which act as storage bridge docs and media.
For 2TB+ external drives, I have a cable but I usually use the USB OTG as a medium of transfer. I would not like my phone's USB slot to be fried.
Most PCs are equipped with office suites but I have LibreOffice portable inside the drive for editing.
Oh, and I have one USB drive which is also a portable Linux drive (Linux mint) so I have an operating system for x86 machines.
Phones & Tabs should have a doc reader/office suite and stuff like that,
Cloud and network solutions are good IF you have or travel in places with good connectivity.
Portable storage is convenient for everything else. And you retain ownership of files.
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Memes apart. Storage is cheap.
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Cloud and network solutions are good IF you have or travel in places with good connectivity.
Portable storage is convenient for everything else. And you retain ownership of files.
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Oh, I see. Got it wrong there:
(indeed, memes are fun!)
I thought you meant having such network services like nextcloud running on external drives but you meant backups in general.
Yeah, I am covered: Syncthing puts stuff to my computer when charging (mostly fotos), Vorta puts this and other things (like ~) elsewhere. And finally I put those once a month on an external SSD (but SATA not USB).
If something needs to go back to the phone than it goes via a USB-OTG or syncthing.
Quite frankly, I despised online storage for the longest time but it does have it merits sometimes, and NextCloud seemed to be the best choice.
Next step, my own server at my own home... just need to figure out something cheap, efficient but powerful enough. Neither router nor raspberry would be good enough, so probably some ITX with AM4, should be possible to stay within 15-25W.
SigmundDroid said:
Oh, I see. Got it wrong there:
(indeed, memes are fun!)
I thought you meant having such network services like nextcloud running on external drives but you meant backups in general.
Yeah, I am covered: Syncthing puts stuff to my computer when charging (mostly fotos), Vorta puts this and other things (like ~) elsewhere. And finally I put those once a month on an external SSD (but SATA not USB).
If something needs to go back to the phone than it goes via a USB-OTG or syncthing.
Quite frankly, I despised online storage for the longest time but it does have it merits sometimes, and NextCloud seemed to be the best choice.
Next step, my own server at my own home... just need to figure out something cheap, efficient but powerful enough. Neither router nor raspberry would be good enough, so probably some ITX with AM4, should be possible to stay within 15-25W.
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I have toyed with creating a portable system with Raspberry Pi or an old android phone. But the battery is the issue in both cases.
File servers don't take much space or resources. A raspi should be able to service at the very least 100 concurrent users.
I have an old laptop which I will be tinkering around to see if it works as some sort of backup device.
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old laptop
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Dang! That's a good idea, except for lacking big drives...
https://www.instructables.com/Using-a-full-sized-HDD-in-a-Laptop/
OK, this is maybe not a good idea but I was pretty surprised to find someone actually doing it.
Still, I really like the laptop idea! Convenient, easy and with builtin screen! Gotta check for any small laptops with passive cooling and 2.5" drive.
SigmundDroid said:
Dang! That's a good idea, except for lacking big drives...
https://www.instructables.com/Using-a-full-sized-HDD-in-a-Laptop/
OK, this is maybe not a good idea but I was pretty surprised to find someone actually doing it.
Still, I really like the laptop idea! Convenient, easy and with builtin screen! Gotta check for any small laptops with passive cooling and 2.5" drive.
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You can get laptop or desktop caddies.
I had a system like this(or worse.), a PATA caddy + power unit.
Man this makes want to hack around right now