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Vista will control you!!!

I read some article about Vista that delaying me to bought it:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#functionality
What do you thing?

cornelius said:
I read some article about Vista that delaying me to bought it:
http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/vista_cost.html#functionality
What do you thing?
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I think just 1 thing:
DON'T BUY VISTA.....and if anyone give you Vista as a gift then throw them back or sell them away
if u like Windows, then Windows XP is the only way to stay in peace...
but i advise that Vista is only a hole...a hole in performances, a hole in our wallett (if u buy vista premium, a big hole for nothing) and a big hole in personal security...i think this is not a OS but a rootkit....

Have you seen this thread?
There is a link there to a podcast about vista. What all the security will do to speed and stability of your system.
My conclusion:
If the consumers are smart enough Vista will die.
Also:
XP and other windows versions owe their popularity in large part to the fact that there are plenty of cracked versions.
If vista doesn't get cracked (mainly cause no one bothers to put in the effort) it won't gain popularity.

lol... Vista was cracked before it was released! I agree though, I've got it installed and it's just not worth it at all... I use pc mainly for creating audio and Vista's put a huge dent in audio processing. My very expensive professional soundcard is pretty much useless as M$ now say that they've decided the way everyone's been routing sound to cards is now not in their plans and they'd like Vista to take on the responsibility - yeah, well, it's pretty poor Bill... maybe you should leave this kinda stuff up to the professionals???!!!
It's all down to Vista's supposed "Security Features", but I've read a lot of reports outlining the hole's in it, basically saying it's completely meaningless. It causes problems with Networking, Audio, and performance that just can't be justified. He's gone and released it WAY before it's ready, same as always. Users will be inundated with updates until finally it starts working like XP now does, by which time he'll have another official part-release ready on the market.
Stay clear of Vista for now if you use your PC for anything more than word processing
Anything M$ related check out http://www.mydigitallife.info/ Excellent site!
P.S.... a guy on this forum has as his signature ""Microsoft". Nice of Bill to name the company after his manhood". Thought that was quite apt

Buy a Mac and all of your security issues are solved.

Windowsrookie said:
Buy a Mac and all of your security issues are solved.
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A Mac couldn't support my needs even if it wanted to

hmmmmmm
Windowsrookie said:
Buy a Mac and all of your security issues are solved.
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Why is it that one of the first things that happens when someone warns about a bug in an update to something pc related, someone says get a Mac.. or Stick to Linux??
no to kick off a huge flamer between PC's, Macs & Linux freaks.. however..
Its getting old...

Juggles said:
Why is it that one of the first things that happens when someone warns about a bug in an update to something pc related, someone says get a Mac.. or Stick to Linux??
no to kick off a huge flamer between PC's, Macs & Linux freaks.. however..
Its getting old...
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I love these arguments as I use and like all three

Midget_1990 said:
I love these arguments as I use and like all three
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ROFL That's just greedy...

Macs are just as misleading!
Windowsrookie said:
Buy a Mac and all of your security issues are solved.
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The ad on tv with the mac and pc is misleading and I'm ticked. I tried to replace a HD on an iBook... wow! Good thing I have a COMPUTER SCIENCE degree. 2.5 hours just to get to the hard drive. Why? because they want more money from you.
Anyway, I am actually pretty excited about getting vista for one of my computers.

texasaggie1 said:
The ad on tv with the mac and pc is misleading and I'm ticked. I tried to replace a HD on an iBook... wow! Good thing I have a COMPUTER SCIENCE degree. 2.5 hours just to get to the hard drive. Why? because they want more money from you.
Anyway, I am actually pretty excited about getting vista for one of my computers.
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I am not sure what ad it is you are referring to, and I don't mean to sound rood but is the time it takes to replace a part relay the driving consideration in what type of computer to get?
And even if so what does that have to do with the OS?
I may not have a degree but I open my PC every 6 month or so, if not to add / change component then just to dust it out and given the amount of peripherals connected to it, it can take 10 minutes just to unplug and then plug back all the cables (two of the big non USB annoyances are UPS status and capture card IR that use serial connectors).
At any rate, I understand the whole "I am switching to Mac / Linux etc." rants. And sorry I don't want to insult anybody but lets face it: in most cases you're just gonna stick with your XP box because getting used to a new OS is not a simple matter. (We have a MAC, don't remember specific model, at work and I got to play with it a couple of times - shortage of mouse buttons drove me crazy How can you live without 'right click'???)
But seriously you may not be switching right now but the point of it all is that there are viable (if not as popular) alternatives to M$ crap regardless of hardware architecture and that is a very comforting thought.
P.S. Here is what I can tell you about my experience with Vista:
We put a Beta on one of the stations at work (it came with our MSDN subscription). The Pentium 4 2.4GHz 258 MB machine ran at a tolerable speed (though I now know it wasn't quite up to specs for this OS), but after a week we needed it for doing real work so it was formatted back to XP.

I have tested on AthlonXP 2500+, 1 Gb ram DDR 400 MHz, Geforce FX5600 Ultra, and after a week of testing I've determined that it works 2-3 times slower than XP, i will not sacrifice performance over crappy security, silly GUI effects and poor compatiblity

My mother in law (a non technical person) just bought a new laptop pre loaded with vista. She complained that it works much worse than her old xp laptop and decided to just take it back for a refund.
I hope the same thing happens a million times and all those refunds will out weight the gains they are hoping for in cornering the drm video market.
The evil in vista is just a sign of the wider decay in American civil liberties. I normally would not care but now thanks to America pushing wipo onto Australia in order to get a trade deal, all that American evil is heading my way.
I do not think copyright crimes should be criminal offenses. Vista, DRM, DMCA, RIAA and so call anti terror laws are crushing ordinary people. They use copyright as a door into peoples lives to persecute them for any other thing they can find along the way.
I would like to see an open source p2p searchable anonymous adhoc wireless network program. That way free people around the world could create and grow an alternate network to rival the internet that no one could use to slam someone in jail. Each users copy of the program could be compiled with a unique identifier that lets it be addressed over the network but in no way ties in to their real identity. If enough people used it it could work, some with enough protection could set up gateways into the real internet to join the two networks.
This may sound stupid now but IMO lack of anonymity in ip based networks will eventually spell the end of them.
what kind of world do we live in where a person needs to run oftware from an encrypted volume within a virtual pc on a pc with ip blocking software and software and hardware firewalls just to feel that big brother won't be able to get at your stuff when they secretly break into your house and ransack it while your at work (as they are allowed to do in Aus under anti terror laws). Seriously!

xplode said:
I have tested on AthlonXP 2500+, 1 Gb ram DDR 400 MHz, Geforce FX5600 Ultra, and after a week of testing I've determined that it works 2-3 times slower than XP, i will not sacrifice performance over crappy security, silly GUI effects and poor compatiblity
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lol... freaky! I've got the same specs just another .5 Gb of RAM. I've actually gone back to XP too.
I think Vista has great potential overall, but it's just not ready... give it a year and people will be raving about it (by then it should have two or three service packs )

full of crap
Windowsrookie said:
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How about os2

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vista on my old C64
to break his rock-solid security

May be it's not time for go to VISTA, wait for SP maybe 6th will fix this, and I tested it with Vista on PC, core 2 duo (errr forgot the speed coz it's office PC), than other PC with same spec run on XP, who the XP performance far better...

Weird, I have 3 machines running Windows Vista Ultimate and are working great, 1 Dell Inspiron(Intel Centrino, 1GB ram), 1 Sony VAIO(Pentium 4 512Mb ram) and 1 PC (AMD, 1Gb ram), all of you, did you change the performance in control panel? Maybe that is your slow Vista....All my drivers are OK...
And all are Vista Cra**ed.....

Speaking of drivers... Microsoft have recommended to device manufacturers/driver writers to avoid creating unified device drivers while at the same time shipping vista with unified drivers. What hypocrisy. They reserve the right to automatically revoke your drivers at any time, with the potential of bricking your machine but don't even follow their own guidelines set out to avoid large scale simultaneous revocations.
One reason it runs slow is that once every millisecond (1000th of a second) vista checks every component to see if it is secure (for drm). This is a lot to be doing on a permanent basis. Its not the only reason it runs slow, because vista is over time learning the patterns of usage for an individual it starts to try and keep a lot of stuff loaded in memory. This is not a bad thing but unless you have 3-4 gig it dose not function as well leading to a slow down.
I just don't like the direction all this drm is going. For me it has little to do with piracy and more to do with freedom. I do not want to be living in a time where a book can be revoked so that it can no longer be read because a government or dictator has decided to use drm to control public opinion. I want to live in a time where competition decides what survives in the market place and not drm/dmca monopolies.
XP works very well there is no reason to change (to vista).

Be Free
OdeeanRDeathshead said:
Speaking of drivers... Microsoft have recommended to device manufacturers/driver writers to avoid creating unified device drivers while at the same time shipping vista with unified drivers. What hypocrisy. They reserve the right to automatically revoke your drivers at any time, with the potential of bricking your machine but don't even follow their own guidelines set out to avoid large scale simultaneous revocations.
One reason it runs slow is that once every millisecond (1000th of a second) vista checks every component to see if it is secure (for drm). This is a lot to be doing on a permanent basis. Its not the only reason it runs slow, because vista is over time learning the patterns of usage for an individual it starts to try and keep a lot of stuff loaded in memory. This is not a bad thing but unless you have 3-4 gig it dose not function as well leading to a slow down.
I just don't like the direction all this drm is going. For me it has little to do with piracy and more to do with freedom. I do not want to be living in a time where a book can be revoked so that it can no longer be read because a government or dictator has decided to use drm to control public opinion. I want to live in a time where competition decides what survives in the market place and not drm/dmca monopolies.
XP works very well there is no reason to change (to vista).
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DRM important but it doesn't mean lock our freedom to get info etc, and ofcource they souldn't control costumer!!!!

iPhone

Just came across this in the HDIII thread
Laughed out loud
New 3G iPhone review
Click here

omg soooooo funny and so true haha

MOVE ASIDE GUYS LET ME DO THE REVIEW
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oops sorry didnt know the pic in the 1st post is the same
hehe even i got this pic and posted it without checking 1st post

JimmyMcGee said:
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ROFL!! (the damn thing tells me to write atleast 10 chars)
I HATE APPLE!

I love those pictures
But I have to wonder why people keep making threads about the phone they hate so much...
R

rorydaredkign said:
I love those pictures
But I have to wonder why people keep making threads about the phone they hate so much...
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Because iPhone fanbois love it so much and it can't do any wrong in thier eyes.
Dave

This is funny stuff but have already seen it already months ago. I like the macbook air one (have not seen it yet)

hotrod101 said:
I like the macbook air one (have not seen it yet)
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Me too. It's stated to have a damn good (not a plain TFT film) screen - dunno if it's an IPS one.

DaveShaw said:
Because iPhone fanbois love it so much and it can't do any wrong in thier eyes.
Dave
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Yes, the Apple fan boi's are an annoying bunch...but how many WM users here are just as fanatical? Just try and threaten the superiority of WM and watch the flaming begin. I'll probably get beat up and get my lunch money taken away just for mentioning this.
I have both. I'm an OS Agnostic. But many, many are not...

ather90 said:
ROFL!! (the damn thing tells me to write atleast 10 chars)
I HATE APPLE!
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haha I'm with you there!
on another one of my forum's one user said:
"I'm sorry. iPhones < WinMo"
then another user replies:
"LMAO I beg to differ!!!
1.Iphone is the top selling smartphone of 08
2. 3rd Party Apps
3.most advanced touchscreen yet invented and implemented into a phone
Those are only a few reasons that they are better!
Lets hear about winmo?"
lol it's funny when people think so highly of the iphone.

sheennick123456 said:
MOVE ASIDE GUYS LET ME DO THE REVIEW
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LOL!!!!
It´s more than hilarious!!! hahaha!

mikeeey said:
lol it's funny when people think so highly of the iphone.
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well, actually, at least for 1, Web browsing 2, gaming, the iPhone is (way) better than WinMo... (I know both platforms extremely well before you ask me.. )

Menneisyys said:
well, actually, at least for 1, Web browsing 2, gaming, the iPhone is (way) better than WinMo... (I know both platforms extremely well before you ask me.. )
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It's been how many years since the release of the HTC tornado? 3 or 4 years? Back when I had my sda.. when I pictured 3 or 4 years into the future I expected much better gaming. I pictured Full speed GBA, maybe even PS1. The performance has not improved in 3 or 4 years now! it's goten worse! I think the only reason why the iphone is better is because HTC is making it look good. If HTC would have continued to progress in performance we'd probably be matched or better than the iphone.
That's just my take on it lol.

While the WM platform is more oriented towards the business department, the iPhoney is more oriented towards the young, "hip" generation. I personally say the iPhone is good at what it doesn, and if somehow, someone, hacked it and got tf3d and winmo apps running on it, I'm sold. The OS is just built so muc hbetter. But it bugs me that people want the iPhoney interface >.> I mean it's just a fancy application launcher with big round shiny buttons. What's so cool about that?

i remember a song that sing this way
[the "apple" tree that grew for u and me. I watch the "apples" falling one-by-one.]
john lennon is the first to test apple products but also the first to see it fall.

Kraize said:
While the WM platform is more oriented towards the business department, the iPhoney is more oriented towards the young, "hip" generation. I personally say the iPhone is good at what it doesn, and if somehow, someone, hacked it and got tf3d and winmo apps running on it, I'm sold. The OS is just built so muc hbetter. But it bugs me that people want the iPhoney interface >.> I mean it's just a fancy application launcher with big round shiny buttons. What's so cool about that?
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Completly agree mate

mikeeey said:
It's been how many years since the release of the HTC tornado? 3 or 4 years? Back when I had my sda.. when I pictured 3 or 4 years into the future I expected much better gaming. I pictured Full speed GBA, maybe even PS1. The performance has not improved in 3 or 4 years now! it's goten worse! I think the only reason why the iphone is better is because HTC is making it look good. If HTC would have continued to progress in performance we'd probably be matched or better than the iphone.
That's just my take on it lol.
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Absolutely agreed. the WinMo platform has had GREAT gaming potential since 2004 (the intel 2700g-based x50v). Too bad Microsoft / HTC didn't bother making the platform a viable gaming platform for games developers. This is why iPhone has blown out of the water the entire WM platform when it comes to gaming.

Well let me throw my 2-3 pence in.....
I recently purchased a iPhoney for my oldest son. And one of the rules of him having it is daddy gets to play with it....... to evaluate it of course. My original assessment of the phone from when it first came out hasn't changed. Neither platform (iPhone or WM) is better than the other. The iPhone is far better at being a "toy" and WM is far better at being a "tool". Whose hands you put either phone in determines which one will be better than the other. In my hands (where I need my phone to work like a laptop) an iPhone may be fun to play with, but it just won't cut it in the functionality I need on a daily bases. Put a WM phone in my son's or wife's hands (where all they care about is ease of use, email/texting, music/video, web surfing, games) it is far too complicated for them to ever make full use of the phone.
No doubt the iPhone is one kick ass phone for what it was designed to do. And that is to fulfill the wants of the simple minded masses with the before mentioned functions. The iPhone has the edge in those categories. Some of the things I need in a phone and the iPhone lacks:
1. No bluetooth A2DP
2. No way to explore files
3. No seperate keyboard
4. No native support for Office docs
5. No native way to shoot video
6. No MMS
7. No tethering
8. No USB memory simulation
9. No copy/paste
10. No multi tasking of apps
11. No removable battery
12. No replaceable memory card
I'm with some of the rest of you guys when it comes to iPhone fan bois/gurlz. They completely bought in to Job's "revolutionary" hype so much it makes me gag. Of course there are your WM fanners, but they are not so much the "sheeple" like the Apple lovers.

Who thinks there will be an iPhone slider phone?

of course the iPhone would have a keyboard...who thinks this will happen within the next 10 years (2009-2019) for the iPhone line of phones?
Edit: When I said "of course the iPhone would have a keyboard" I meant that if the iPhone was a slider a phone, than of course I am talking about an iPhone with a qwerty keyboard...not a dial pad....not like an N95 but something more like a Touch Pro

as a follower, they should prepare to have it

i doesnt really matter even if they attach some xtrange keyboard is just one thing i never but never matters to me

No, will not happen
I don't think there will be a slider phone from Apple, simply becaise the designs of the Iphone won't allow sliding extras. The design of the phone was always based on looking solid and out of one piece, like it's the case with the Imac, Iphone and Ipod. I rest my case

Even if they do, it will still be crap. Anyways, I don't believe there will be iPhails in 2019.............
EDIT: It looks like in my blind hatred I forgot to answer the question.
I think it is the next logical step. iPhail users can be easily satisfied, but many people have switched to devices with a physical keyboard. Pre, Xperia, N97 and so forth offer much more flexibility and I will not even mention the endless stream of messaging phones. I bet that crApple will try to tap that market and the only way to do that is to add a keyboard. Advancements in haptics will not compensate for the lack of one.
Haha look at this:
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/07/financial-times-confirms-apple-tablet-for-september/

+ Que PPC said:
i doesnt really matter even if they attach some xtrange keyboard is just one thing i never but never matters to me
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Completly agree Paisa!
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Even if they do, it will still be crap. Anyways, I don't believe there will be iPhails in 2019.............
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Same here +1

Iphone will never have a hardware keyboard because they're all abut touch and so on plus the iphone looks boring in design since they all look alike i bet the only difference between the iphones now and the distant future ones will be the thickness.

Yup I dont think so neither

I-Phone
ingerasu said:
as a follower, they should prepare to have it
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Yeah!! I also think that it will have a slider phone.
Really

Nope, don't think it will ever happen
The concept of Iphone does not allow additions or protruding parts. Besides, the latest trends indicate shift towards keyless or full qwerty full touch large screen devices and Iphone is already there. They will improve functions and OSX, adding a video call and other gadgety things, but will not add a keyboard in any shape or form. They don't even want an external one used, that's something to ponder.
In 10 years we won't even remember Iphone, we'll have the next best thing - a cellphone inbuilt into our brans with calls made by voice and answered by blinking twice or pulling on the ear. Or better still - we'll genetically modify our future progeny to be born with a cellphone already growing in the brain and attached to the eye, so that any e-mails, txt messages, photos and movies are downloaded and viewed automatically and video calls can be made clicking your tongue

enigma1nz said:
The concept of Iphone does not allow additions or protruding parts. Besides, the latest trends indicate shift towards keyless or full qwerty full touch large screen devices and Iphone is already there. They will improve functions and OSX, adding a video call and other gadgety things, but will not add a keyboard in any shape or form. They don't even want an external one used, that's something to ponder.
In 10 years we won't even remember Iphone, we'll have the next best thing - a cellphone inbuilt into our brans with calls made by voice and answered by blinking twice or pulling on the ear. Or better still - we'll genetically modify our future progeny to be born with a cellphone already growing in the brain and attached to the eye, so that any e-mails, txt messages, photos and movies are downloaded and viewed automatically and video calls can be made clicking your tongue
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Yeah, and what about the ROM's for our brains
"Hey man, how are you, I just flashed my head with the latest ROM from XDA-Brain developers, now I have 3 eyes "

Win_XP said:
Yeah, and what about the ROM's for our brains
"Hey man, how are you, I just flashed my head with the latest ROM from XDA-Brain developers, now I have 3 eyes "
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LOL!
I have an extra arm with that ROM! probably I have not configured in the proper way... I want my extra eye not an arm

Win_XP said:
Yeah, and what about the ROM's for our brains
"Hey man, how are you, I just flashed my head with the latest ROM from XDA-Brain developers, now I have 3 eyes "
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Now you are just being silly - STAY AWAY FROM BETA RELEASES!!!!
'Why are you blinking with only one eye?' 'Tomal released a new beta for my brain, I am testing and posting bug report'

enigma1nz said:
Now you are just being silly - STAY AWAY FROM BETA RELEASES!!!!
'Why are you blinking with only one eye?' 'Tomal released a new beta for my brain, I am testing and posting bug report'
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Thanks Abusalza, the new brain rom is running great.
I think I found a couple of bugs though.......................
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denco7 said:
Thanks Abusalza, the new brain rom is running great.
I think I found a couple of bugs though.......................
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minor inconveniences.
back on topic... the IPhone will probably never receive a built in keyboard. but i am sure small external ones will appear eventually with Bluetooth being opened up.

Apple will likely release an overly expensive bluetooth keyboard that the masses will buy because it looks good and works only with the iPhone.

JRK-Scope said:
Apple will likely release an overly expensive bluetooth keyboard that the masses will buy because it looks good and works only with the iPhone.
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EXACTLY.

JRK-Scope said:
Apple will likely release an overly expensive bluetooth keyboard that the masses will buy because it looks good and works only with the iPhone.
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Doubtful , Apple doesn't do accessories, not enough of a profit margin.
They are more likely to come out with a tablet that makes phone calls.

The number of iPhail threads lately is concerning....

orelsi said:
The number of iPhail threads lately is concerning....
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then i bet the fact that XDA-developers.com owns Iphone-developers.com must be really unsettling.

BOOOOOOM Apple just dropped the iPhone OS 4.0 A-BOMB

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/live-from-apples-iphone-os-4-event/
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Wow, they finally got around to basic functionalities after three years. Functionalities that Symbian and WinMo were doing since forever. Very revolutionary and magical. Color me awed.
Just about the only thing Android needs to do to "catch up" is a better multi-tasking UI. Then again, considering the iPhone OS 4.0 will handle a grand total of seven tasks--as opposed to Android showing the last six apps used--well...

folders!!! haha.

jarude said:
folders!!! haha.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well atleast there starting to catch up
Steve really outdid himself this time

this is so funny hahaha. they're taking things that phones have already been able to do and making it such a big deal. apple can suck deez nutz.
i can't wait till android os 3.0!!!

Austin021296 said:
Well atleast there starting to catch up
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They just got wallpapers, maybe OS5 will match Eclair.

britoso said:
They just got wallpapers, maybe OS5 will match Eclair.
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LOL so true

So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
Am I missing something?

azalex86 said:
So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
Am I missing something?
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Yes, Apple just ripped off a bunch of features from Android, which will undoubtedly drive iSheep sales up.

ohhh! a bunch of stuff that almost every other phone already has... android, winMo, WebOS...

azalex86 said:
So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
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Nope, you're not. However for the masses, this update will be very well received. Yes its ridiculous that they took so long to incorporate multitasking and folder functionality, but better late than never.
I was disappointed that there wasn't any interface change, the icon grids seem archaic. The iBook app will be huge. Overall, I think this is what most people were expecting in terms of a software update. The real big news will be whether a hardware update will accompany OS4 (unibody iPhone would be nice).
For now the Nexus still has an edge but the gap is narrowing

jasrups said:
Nope, you're not. However for the masses, this update will be very well received. Yes its ridiculous that they took so long to incorporate multitasking and folder functionality, but better late than never.
I was disappointed that there wasn't any interface change, the icon grids seem archaic. The iBook app will be huge. Overall, I think this is what most people were expecting in terms of a software update. The real big news will be whether a hardware update will accompany OS4 (unibody iPhone would be nice).
For now the Nexus still has an edge but the gap is narrowing
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Yeah. I was thinking of the big things they could do on the hardware side, but I'm not entirely sure they want to split their market up. People are still using the iPhone 3G, if they do a massive upgrade on hardware, app developers will have to verify it works on 3 different platforms.
Maybe they are just planning on phasing out the 3G completely by next year (considering they were hinting at the lesser features for 3G's OS4), and then using the current 3GS as minimum spec. If they increase screen resolution, they'll have to write some scaling processes as well (a lot can be seen in the iPad)

They dropped the bomb until they put this dud out.
I own a bunch of Apple devices and Ive had an iPhone before. Im not a hater, I just dont think it's cutting edge anymore. I even have an iPad so you can't say Im an apple hater

Is just another iPhone... but still Google needs to get their act together in a few areas. I borrowed a N1 for few days and like it very much, but I have been reluctant to take the plunge because of the following shortcomings:
Google needs to allow Contacts, Tasks and Notes to sync to the N1 (locally and remotely) using Google apps. It also needs to either enhance the Calendar application or make it play nice with Outlook desktop calendar functions. Me and whole bunch of other people I know, are very comfortable with Outlook to manage their email, time, contacts and tasks. Help us migrate to Android and to the Google apps without so much fuzz. Don't leave it to third parties. I don't want to risk my critical data to a vendor that is here today, but might not be here tomorrow. I'm not very happy leaving all my critical data in the cloud, but if I'm going to do it... Google needs to help me get there. Security and the integrity of my data are important. I have confidence in Google, but not on third party vendors for this critical step.
The Music Player needs enhancement and a Google desktop application to manage one's Music Library and multiple playlist is needed. Most decent portable DAP have such application. Maybe Google can partner or acquire a vendor that knows how to do this right.
Just like the new iPhone the inbox of Android needs to be bit more friendly with other email service providers. As with the new IPhone OS 4, multiple Exchange servers should be supported along with the option to have multiple and merged inboxes.
I wonder if others feel the same way. I also know that there are other issues that need to be addressed, but in my case the top two are very important.

The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
Also, tamanaco, I believe Sense does most of what you said. Don't believe the Nexus is a very friendly business device...

azalex86 said:
Yeah. I was thinking of the big things they could do on the hardware side, but I'm not entirely sure they want to split their market up. People are still using the iPhone 3G, if they do a massive upgrade on hardware, app developers will have to verify it works on 3 different platforms.
Maybe they are just planning on phasing out the 3G completely by next year (considering they were hinting at the lesser features for 3G's OS4), and then using the current 3GS as minimum spec. If they increase screen resolution, they'll have to write some scaling processes as well (a lot can be seen in the iPad)
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I agree with you in that there's no need for them to boost their specs at this point, but I was referring more to a cosmetic facelift. The iPhone has pretty much looked the same for 3 years now and I think even Apple fanboys can agree that everyone is tired of the design.

Eclair~ said:
The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
Also, tamanaco, I believe Sense does most of what you said. Don't believe the Nexus is a very friendly business device...
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So, if I understand you correctly... The N1 is "not" a Music Player... is "not" meant for business... and as you say is "not" for me. So, in your book it's only good to make calls and find yourself on a map? It's called a "Superphone"... What's else is it good for?

SubyWill said:
this is so funny hahaha. they're taking things that phones have already been able to do and making it such a big deal. apple can suck deez nutz.
i can't wait till android os 3.0!!!
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I just pray for it to include VPN, proxy settings, full Exchange support (including tasks), WPA-Enterprise...
But I'm guessing it won't.

Eclair~ said:
The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
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This is not an excuse IMO, the music player definitely needs an update. This is the one area where iPhone has a real advantage over Android. Most users would rather carry one device for everyday use, I know I certainly would.

[Q] Laptop for a Student

Hey Guys,
So this is going to be a sort of running thread through the summer, or if it dies, I may revive it as the decision gets closer. Basically here is the deal. I am a student, finishing my junior year of high school, and I am looking for a computer. I want a laptop that is reasonably portable, but also powerful. I play some games, not super intensive, but I would like to make sure the computer can play source engine games well (TF2, CS:S HL2), and also I was an avid player of the original Guild Wars, and I would like my laptop to be able to run Guild Wars 2. Also, going back to the portability, I'm thinking 13-14 inches, and a decent battery life (four hours plus). I would also like a durable laptop, because I would like to try to make it survive for 4 years or so. Budget isn't too much of an issue, but I would like the best bang for my buck. I was looking at the HP Envy 14 when the Sandy Bridge refresh hits this summer. Is there anything else out now that I should look at, or is anything else coming soon that will fit these requirements. I'm looking to purchase this laptop sometime in the fall of 2011.
Thanks Guys

Get an alienware m14x may or may not be your style though.
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Thinkpads are decent. Just don't get anything from Sony or HP.

Hmm the alienware isn't really my style and seems kind of thick to me. And why the HP hate. I know Sony has some high prices.
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LOL I want this!!!
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I have an HP - a DV7-3077CA. It's VERY hot. And by that, I mean the temperature of the creature.
You said you don't really need vast screens, that's a plus in finding a better price with good hardware. So, as I live in another country (and in one with ABUSIVE taxes - I payed about 2.5X what you would pay for the same laptop there), I can't really say an specific option.
But look for things like this:
A Sandy i5 (basic i7 models come with lower clocks than i5. Of course, their TurboBoost is astounding but they don't always work - I have one, I can tell), with 4GB RAM, at least 500GB HDD, and with a dedicated card. Get something from nVidia (brand wars aside, AMD's drivers are still subpar, and laptops NEED stability), probably there are some 4XX or 5XX series cards going out there. Try to get a video card between the 440-450 or 530-550 models. You won't need higher performance than that for quite some time for what you said, but the basic models are TOO basic.
Now, brands: Speculations aside, HP isn't the worst option either, cooling systems aside. AFAIK, Acer usually builds well. Samsung is getting better.
I just wouldn't recommend Dell & Sony (for pricebranding reasons, also at least around here, Dell's support is nothing of what they promise).
Everything here is basically to say that it's actually easier for you to point at a model and think for yourself if it's good for you. It's better for us to support, but what if we really mess up in the choose?

Good thoughts, I'll be back here in awhile with some examples, but while I'm looking, what is the deal with the ASUS laptops. Can you only get them in certain configurations, and is there anyway to read into the names without clicking on each ones to look at the specs.

Epic picture!! I wanna make one like that from my old laptop

Hey guys, here are just a few of the laptops that have caught my attention as I've been looking.
HP Envy 14 (SB Refresh in June)
HP dm4x
Dell XPS 15
Alienware mx14 (How thick is it? I could live with the looks if its not too thick.)
Lenovo, ASUS, and Acer I havn't had time to go through yet, but are there any particular models of those that stick out and compare with the above.
Edit: Started looking at ASUS, NF43JF can be added to the list above.

Buy a laptop that can't play games so you can focus on studying.
I kid I kid.
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Haha very funny. For real though I also want the power for running things like ableton and Photoshop
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Got this same computer in black, does everything i ask it to, when i want it to. Dont be skeched out about the refurb, mine came like it was new. :-D
Id like to thank everyone that helped me root, rom, & nand.
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Get Something made by ASUS. Solid company with great rep. I have a U30Jc with GeForce 310m which will play COD on medium settings. The newer models are even better. http://www.asus.com/Notebooks/

Hmm, seems a little almost 2 powerful for me. I'd like more battery life. Also, im not a huge fan of the brown. But thanks for the suggestion.

I've got a Dell Studio 1558 64x - http://www.dell.com/uk/p/studio-1558/pd
But i wound recommend an XPS 16/16/17 http://www.dell.com/uk/p/studio-1558/pd
or if you have the money a Mac Book ! - but then that depends on what corse your doing...

I would highly suggest not getting anything over 14" for screen size. I have a friend who had a 15" mac book but mainly used an Asus Netbook because it was more portable and better battery life. Ideally get a 13.3" or 14" there the ideal size with a good balance of potability, power and battery.

en4bz said:
I would highly suggest not getting anything over 14" for screen size. I have a friend who had a 15" mac book but mainly used an Asus Netbook because it was more portable and better battery life. Ideally get a 13.3" or 14" there the ideal size with a good balance of potability, power and battery.
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thats a good point,
my dell's a 15.5 inch screen n my dads XPS M1330... its 13.5 which is easy to travel with !

Yea I'm looking mostly at 14s. Has anybody heard anything about the dm4x with sandy bridge
In response to MacBook I already have a ton of windows software so osx isn't really am option
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muerteman said:
Yea I'm looking mostly at 14s. Has anybody heard anything about the dm4x with sandy bridge
In response to MacBook I already have a ton of windows software so osx isn't really am option
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in which case go Linux =) the best way to waste all the Microsoft software !! I Kid i Kid
I love my Dell studio 1558, it so cool, i've given it -
Mac OS X - Kalway 10.5.2
Linux Ubuntu 10.4.02/10.10/11.04
Linux Mint 10.10
ow n Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 64 n Home Premium
and it still runs