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...and herd of sheep grows.
Hope she doesn't want to send picture messages or receive them!
Iphone = no MMS. Nice job Steve!
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Sorry just had to do it. Didn't mean to ruin your thread.

AllTheWay said:
...and herd of sheep grows.
Hope she doesn't want to send picture messages or receive them!
Iphone = no MMS. Nice job Steve!
Sorry just had to do it. Didn't mean to ruin your thread.
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silly iphone lovers.....horrible call quality. horrible call management. horrible messaging options. Jesus....looks like the Jesus phone forgot to be a proper phone before eveloving into the fashion cycle.
and now i leave you all with this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZyYjQHcXEU&eurl=http://wmpoweruser.com/?paged=3

Haha Yeah guys its just a more basic phone for her. She doesnt need some crazy pphone that does as much as the Kaiser. She just needs a phone to talk and text one. She loved her iPhone before and was just getting the hang of things when I got rid of it and got her the Kaiser haha. But she would like to go back now anyways. To each their own guys. Its all personal preference.

well I would never buy an iPhone, I don't see why it's terrible for another person to get one, especialy if they like it and don't like the competition.
I love to tinker with my "toys"; some people want an easy out-of-the-box experience. You can't have both, so you have the winMobiles and the apples. To each his own.

Fared said:
well I would never buy an iPhone, I don't see why it's terrible for another person to get one, especialy if they like it and don't like the competition.
I love to tinker with my "toys"; some people want an easy out-of-the-box experience. You can't have both, so you have the winMobiles and the apples. To each his own.
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I completely agree with you up until 'you can't have both'. Why not? I completely believe that this is where Windows Mobile falls flat on it's face. I would expect that the vast majority of iPhones sold are due to it's looks (I know that's the only factor drawing me towards wanting one). I would therefore argue that had the Windows Mobile interface looked as nice if not nicer then they would obviously be much more appealing, to both the 'fashion' buyers, and to the kind of people that use this forum as it would encompass both functionality, the ability to be modded, and aesthetics...and the iPhone would become obsolete! So come on WM...employ some f'ing designers!! It's a no-brainer!

altho i wouldnt have one, iphone is much thinner, lighter ..
most ppl just dont do the same or expect the same from their device as we do.
i know many guys who sold their tilts for exactly the reasons above..
my tilt is bigger and heavier than my 8y/o nokia .. its an everyday heavy lug when many times i just need a simple phone and occasional web connection..
if i could, or it made any sense, i would have 2 phones.. light and industrial strength
wife has really light thin phone and a nokia n800 in her purse.
driving around, she needs web access. nokia has fast and far wifi recognition..
at least 40% of networks are open and not pw protected..
she taps in real quick, does her business and drives off..
it worx really well

Iphone not so bad
I went from an 8525 > iphone > Tilt.
Still got the iphone. After it's jailbreaked and installer is installed, you can customize it and get just about any program you want on it. It's got style, and the transitions are smooth.
I like WM better, but for its hard to down the iphone, because it's a cool and fast phone.

one major reason i bought my tilt was b/c of the GPS... TomTom is so cool..
it saved me from having to own another gadget..

The iphone with installer does have a load of programs, but what annoys me is that most of those are just eye candy rather than actually useful apps or hacks like we have under WM... Of course the interface smoothness, speed and overall comfort makes it awesome for things like web surfing, but there's so much more functionality on a Kaiser that even if I like the iphone concept, when thinking rationally I would only use it for web and to look at it.. no possible justification to have both
I too to love the Kaiser for versatility. It has managed to include all the devices I was using, last one being the GPS that was external before and that I of course never had with me when I needed it...

Does not even the new 3G iPhone do picture msgs?

Man... maybe I'm crazy but all these people are talking about the iphone's speed and reliability.. In my personal experience (a lot, I live in trendy hollywood) I hear more people saying "I HATE this piece of ****!!" more than anything else about the iphone. Just having dinner the other night this girl's iphone lagged like crazy and straight up froze for a good 20 seconds. She said "It does this all the time". Then my other buddy's tryin to show me some pictures on his iphone and he has to turn the thing in his hand like 4 times to get it to switch to landscape. So from my personal experience.. it would seem that the "reliability" of the iphone is all how it was marketed, not how it actually performs.

I'm tired of my HTC Magnum. I would consider an iPhoney in trade, just to tinker with something different.

Hey I have 1st gen iPhone in very good condition unlocked. where you located? pm me asap!

Not to mention new iPhone 3G's battery is a disaster, wont last as long as even tilt...
So you could show up at an awesome party and try to use your iBeer to impress your mates, and only to find out your beloved iPhone 3G has died on you...

ericmcintire said:
Just having dinner the other night this girl's iphone lagged like crazy and straight up froze for a good 20 seconds. She said "It does this all the time". Then my other buddy's tryin to show me some pictures on his iphone and he has to turn the thing in his hand like 4 times to get it to switch to landscape.
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I'm pretty sure those "reliability issues" are like always caused by 3rd-party programs. iPhone users (at least those I know) often have 4-5 pages of useless but funny/good for boasting programs installed, so it's not surprising one could be buggy and cause problems.
One of my friends once had an issue where his iphone wouldn't even hold a day on battery anymore. Turned out it was a program that was still eating the CPU even on standby. Uninstalled and it was fine. He never had speed issues but it can be just the same.
The same is valid on the Kaiser and other WM devices too... I had a program (A2DPToggle) that would do the same, phone never went into standby anymore as soon as the today plugin was active...
Not even talking of the PC... It's just the same on any platform. Incompatibilities/badly designed programs will always be around.

rzanology said:
silly iphone lovers.....horrible call quality. horrible call management. horrible messaging options. Jesus....looks like the Jesus phone forgot to be a proper phone before eveloving into the fashion cycle.
and now i leave you all with this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZyYjQHcXEU&eurl=http://wmpoweruser.com/?paged=3
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I'm a HUGE tilt/ kaiser fan, and still don't understand what you're talking about. The iphone doesn't have poor call quality, it has great call quality. I've used one myself, and have tons of friends that have the iphone. Horrible messaging? No... it works great actually, it just lacks MMS (which should be comings hortly in an update). Oh, and lacking mms is probably just as comparable to the tilt's lack of a good dialer, or a decent camera....lol.

nimda0 said:
Oh, and lacking mms is probably just as comparable to the tilt's lack of a good dialer, or a decent camera....lol.
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Apples and oranges here. While the dialer and camera may not be up to par to most folks, the functionality is already there.
Lacking MMS is a totally different issue.

Your thread, like every other time an iPhone and a Windows phone are mentioned together, has been hijacked. It is a fact that both camps have very strong emotions and a "my phone is the only choice" attitude. This thread is not the place for that discussion. Let's get back to the purpose of the OP.
Does anyone wanna trade an iPhone for this guys Tilt?

Anyone have a new one they would trade?

iPhone

Just came across this in the HDIII thread
Laughed out loud
New 3G iPhone review
Click here

omg soooooo funny and so true haha

MOVE ASIDE GUYS LET ME DO THE REVIEW
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oops sorry didnt know the pic in the 1st post is the same
hehe even i got this pic and posted it without checking 1st post

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ROFL!! (the damn thing tells me to write atleast 10 chars)
I HATE APPLE!

I love those pictures
But I have to wonder why people keep making threads about the phone they hate so much...
R

rorydaredkign said:
I love those pictures
But I have to wonder why people keep making threads about the phone they hate so much...
R
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Because iPhone fanbois love it so much and it can't do any wrong in thier eyes.
Dave

This is funny stuff but have already seen it already months ago. I like the macbook air one (have not seen it yet)

hotrod101 said:
I like the macbook air one (have not seen it yet)
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Me too. It's stated to have a damn good (not a plain TFT film) screen - dunno if it's an IPS one.

DaveShaw said:
Because iPhone fanbois love it so much and it can't do any wrong in thier eyes.
Dave
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Yes, the Apple fan boi's are an annoying bunch...but how many WM users here are just as fanatical? Just try and threaten the superiority of WM and watch the flaming begin. I'll probably get beat up and get my lunch money taken away just for mentioning this.
I have both. I'm an OS Agnostic. But many, many are not...

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ROFL!! (the damn thing tells me to write atleast 10 chars)
I HATE APPLE!
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haha I'm with you there!
on another one of my forum's one user said:
"I'm sorry. iPhones < WinMo"
then another user replies:
"LMAO I beg to differ!!!
1.Iphone is the top selling smartphone of 08
2. 3rd Party Apps
3.most advanced touchscreen yet invented and implemented into a phone
Those are only a few reasons that they are better!
Lets hear about winmo?"
lol it's funny when people think so highly of the iphone.

sheennick123456 said:
MOVE ASIDE GUYS LET ME DO THE REVIEW
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LOL!!!!
It´s more than hilarious!!! hahaha!

mikeeey said:
lol it's funny when people think so highly of the iphone.
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well, actually, at least for 1, Web browsing 2, gaming, the iPhone is (way) better than WinMo... (I know both platforms extremely well before you ask me.. )

Menneisyys said:
well, actually, at least for 1, Web browsing 2, gaming, the iPhone is (way) better than WinMo... (I know both platforms extremely well before you ask me.. )
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It's been how many years since the release of the HTC tornado? 3 or 4 years? Back when I had my sda.. when I pictured 3 or 4 years into the future I expected much better gaming. I pictured Full speed GBA, maybe even PS1. The performance has not improved in 3 or 4 years now! it's goten worse! I think the only reason why the iphone is better is because HTC is making it look good. If HTC would have continued to progress in performance we'd probably be matched or better than the iphone.
That's just my take on it lol.

While the WM platform is more oriented towards the business department, the iPhoney is more oriented towards the young, "hip" generation. I personally say the iPhone is good at what it doesn, and if somehow, someone, hacked it and got tf3d and winmo apps running on it, I'm sold. The OS is just built so muc hbetter. But it bugs me that people want the iPhoney interface >.> I mean it's just a fancy application launcher with big round shiny buttons. What's so cool about that?

i remember a song that sing this way
[the "apple" tree that grew for u and me. I watch the "apples" falling one-by-one.]
john lennon is the first to test apple products but also the first to see it fall.

Kraize said:
While the WM platform is more oriented towards the business department, the iPhoney is more oriented towards the young, "hip" generation. I personally say the iPhone is good at what it doesn, and if somehow, someone, hacked it and got tf3d and winmo apps running on it, I'm sold. The OS is just built so muc hbetter. But it bugs me that people want the iPhoney interface >.> I mean it's just a fancy application launcher with big round shiny buttons. What's so cool about that?
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Completly agree mate

mikeeey said:
It's been how many years since the release of the HTC tornado? 3 or 4 years? Back when I had my sda.. when I pictured 3 or 4 years into the future I expected much better gaming. I pictured Full speed GBA, maybe even PS1. The performance has not improved in 3 or 4 years now! it's goten worse! I think the only reason why the iphone is better is because HTC is making it look good. If HTC would have continued to progress in performance we'd probably be matched or better than the iphone.
That's just my take on it lol.
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Absolutely agreed. the WinMo platform has had GREAT gaming potential since 2004 (the intel 2700g-based x50v). Too bad Microsoft / HTC didn't bother making the platform a viable gaming platform for games developers. This is why iPhone has blown out of the water the entire WM platform when it comes to gaming.

Well let me throw my 2-3 pence in.....
I recently purchased a iPhoney for my oldest son. And one of the rules of him having it is daddy gets to play with it....... to evaluate it of course. My original assessment of the phone from when it first came out hasn't changed. Neither platform (iPhone or WM) is better than the other. The iPhone is far better at being a "toy" and WM is far better at being a "tool". Whose hands you put either phone in determines which one will be better than the other. In my hands (where I need my phone to work like a laptop) an iPhone may be fun to play with, but it just won't cut it in the functionality I need on a daily bases. Put a WM phone in my son's or wife's hands (where all they care about is ease of use, email/texting, music/video, web surfing, games) it is far too complicated for them to ever make full use of the phone.
No doubt the iPhone is one kick ass phone for what it was designed to do. And that is to fulfill the wants of the simple minded masses with the before mentioned functions. The iPhone has the edge in those categories. Some of the things I need in a phone and the iPhone lacks:
1. No bluetooth A2DP
2. No way to explore files
3. No seperate keyboard
4. No native support for Office docs
5. No native way to shoot video
6. No MMS
7. No tethering
8. No USB memory simulation
9. No copy/paste
10. No multi tasking of apps
11. No removable battery
12. No replaceable memory card
I'm with some of the rest of you guys when it comes to iPhone fan bois/gurlz. They completely bought in to Job's "revolutionary" hype so much it makes me gag. Of course there are your WM fanners, but they are not so much the "sheeple" like the Apple lovers.

BOOOOOOM Apple just dropped the iPhone OS 4.0 A-BOMB

http://www.engadget.com/2010/04/08/live-from-apples-iphone-os-4-event/
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Wow, they finally got around to basic functionalities after three years. Functionalities that Symbian and WinMo were doing since forever. Very revolutionary and magical. Color me awed.
Just about the only thing Android needs to do to "catch up" is a better multi-tasking UI. Then again, considering the iPhone OS 4.0 will handle a grand total of seven tasks--as opposed to Android showing the last six apps used--well...

folders!!! haha.

jarude said:
folders!!! haha.
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LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well atleast there starting to catch up
Steve really outdid himself this time

this is so funny hahaha. they're taking things that phones have already been able to do and making it such a big deal. apple can suck deez nutz.
i can't wait till android os 3.0!!!

Austin021296 said:
Well atleast there starting to catch up
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They just got wallpapers, maybe OS5 will match Eclair.

britoso said:
They just got wallpapers, maybe OS5 will match Eclair.
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LOL so true

So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
Am I missing something?

azalex86 said:
So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
Am I missing something?
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Yes, Apple just ripped off a bunch of features from Android, which will undoubtedly drive iSheep sales up.

ohhh! a bunch of stuff that almost every other phone already has... android, winMo, WebOS...

azalex86 said:
So the iPhone OS 4.0 contains what's currently available for jailbroken iPhones, and adds interactive advertising...
Am I missing something?
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Nope, you're not. However for the masses, this update will be very well received. Yes its ridiculous that they took so long to incorporate multitasking and folder functionality, but better late than never.
I was disappointed that there wasn't any interface change, the icon grids seem archaic. The iBook app will be huge. Overall, I think this is what most people were expecting in terms of a software update. The real big news will be whether a hardware update will accompany OS4 (unibody iPhone would be nice).
For now the Nexus still has an edge but the gap is narrowing

jasrups said:
Nope, you're not. However for the masses, this update will be very well received. Yes its ridiculous that they took so long to incorporate multitasking and folder functionality, but better late than never.
I was disappointed that there wasn't any interface change, the icon grids seem archaic. The iBook app will be huge. Overall, I think this is what most people were expecting in terms of a software update. The real big news will be whether a hardware update will accompany OS4 (unibody iPhone would be nice).
For now the Nexus still has an edge but the gap is narrowing
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Yeah. I was thinking of the big things they could do on the hardware side, but I'm not entirely sure they want to split their market up. People are still using the iPhone 3G, if they do a massive upgrade on hardware, app developers will have to verify it works on 3 different platforms.
Maybe they are just planning on phasing out the 3G completely by next year (considering they were hinting at the lesser features for 3G's OS4), and then using the current 3GS as minimum spec. If they increase screen resolution, they'll have to write some scaling processes as well (a lot can be seen in the iPad)

They dropped the bomb until they put this dud out.
I own a bunch of Apple devices and Ive had an iPhone before. Im not a hater, I just dont think it's cutting edge anymore. I even have an iPad so you can't say Im an apple hater

Is just another iPhone... but still Google needs to get their act together in a few areas. I borrowed a N1 for few days and like it very much, but I have been reluctant to take the plunge because of the following shortcomings:
Google needs to allow Contacts, Tasks and Notes to sync to the N1 (locally and remotely) using Google apps. It also needs to either enhance the Calendar application or make it play nice with Outlook desktop calendar functions. Me and whole bunch of other people I know, are very comfortable with Outlook to manage their email, time, contacts and tasks. Help us migrate to Android and to the Google apps without so much fuzz. Don't leave it to third parties. I don't want to risk my critical data to a vendor that is here today, but might not be here tomorrow. I'm not very happy leaving all my critical data in the cloud, but if I'm going to do it... Google needs to help me get there. Security and the integrity of my data are important. I have confidence in Google, but not on third party vendors for this critical step.
The Music Player needs enhancement and a Google desktop application to manage one's Music Library and multiple playlist is needed. Most decent portable DAP have such application. Maybe Google can partner or acquire a vendor that knows how to do this right.
Just like the new iPhone the inbox of Android needs to be bit more friendly with other email service providers. As with the new IPhone OS 4, multiple Exchange servers should be supported along with the option to have multiple and merged inboxes.
I wonder if others feel the same way. I also know that there are other issues that need to be addressed, but in my case the top two are very important.

The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
Also, tamanaco, I believe Sense does most of what you said. Don't believe the Nexus is a very friendly business device...

azalex86 said:
Yeah. I was thinking of the big things they could do on the hardware side, but I'm not entirely sure they want to split their market up. People are still using the iPhone 3G, if they do a massive upgrade on hardware, app developers will have to verify it works on 3 different platforms.
Maybe they are just planning on phasing out the 3G completely by next year (considering they were hinting at the lesser features for 3G's OS4), and then using the current 3GS as minimum spec. If they increase screen resolution, they'll have to write some scaling processes as well (a lot can be seen in the iPad)
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I agree with you in that there's no need for them to boost their specs at this point, but I was referring more to a cosmetic facelift. The iPhone has pretty much looked the same for 3 years now and I think even Apple fanboys can agree that everyone is tired of the design.

Eclair~ said:
The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
Also, tamanaco, I believe Sense does most of what you said. Don't believe the Nexus is a very friendly business device...
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So, if I understand you correctly... The N1 is "not" a Music Player... is "not" meant for business... and as you say is "not" for me. So, in your book it's only good to make calls and find yourself on a map? It's called a "Superphone"... What's else is it good for?

SubyWill said:
this is so funny hahaha. they're taking things that phones have already been able to do and making it such a big deal. apple can suck deez nutz.
i can't wait till android os 3.0!!!
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I just pray for it to include VPN, proxy settings, full Exchange support (including tasks), WPA-Enterprise...
But I'm guessing it won't.

Eclair~ said:
The soul purpose of this device is not meant to be a music player, Google does not (and I highly doubt they will) need to create an entire desktop application to move mp3s to the music folder where anyone with the right direction can do this. Managing playlist though is a different story, but I guess it is up to a third party application to do this.
Get a ipod or other portable music device if this is your wish.
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This is not an excuse IMO, the music player definitely needs an update. This is the one area where iPhone has a real advantage over Android. Most users would rather carry one device for everyday use, I know I certainly would.

[Official] NEXUS owners hangout thread

here's a thread where NEXUS owners on XDA can gather to hang out and chat about anything (up to the mod's discretion, of course)
talk about what you did with your device, new and upcoming gadgets, technology rumours, random dev/theme/mod stuff, your day at work, your new car, or even that barbershop you just got a haircut from.
want to ask a question or share a thought but don't think it needs its own thread? post it in here
so sit back, grab a coffee (or beer), and post your random thoughts
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Oh, I'm not getting rid. It's still staying with me. I've grown rather fond of it. And it's still immaculate red with no scratches or chips
sent from the thing I stab with my finger when I get two minutes

I'm pretty sure the mods said no placeholder threads (The post your homescreens and post pictures from your N4 threads got closed because of this) but if they allow this one, I'm in! Woot N4!

Nexus 4 Fails in Benchmark FUUUUU not sure to get this BEAST

Totally understand but even though I love the small form factor if the DS, I've regretted not having a larger screen when browsing got about a year, so can't wait to make the change, will probably take a while getting used to the larger devices but don't believe that I'll regret it
Sywepd form my DsereiS

Does anyone know if it's going to be available from all UK networks
I'm your huckleberry

jugg1es said:
Does anyone know if it's going to be available from all UK networks
I'm your huckleberry
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pass, best option is to get it from play Sim unlocked and Sim free and then buy Sim only deal from which ever network you prefer
Sywepd form my DsereiS

kcls said:
I'm pretty sure the mods said no placeholder threads (The post your homescreens and post pictures from your N4 threads got closed because of this) but if they allow this one, I'm in! Woot N4!
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not a place-holder, this is a real thread lol
hopefully people will post their nonsense in here rather than making countless threads about the same crap lol
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Nexus 4 Fails in Benchmark FUUUUU not sure to get this BEAST
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yea i duno why the benchmarks are so bad
i really hope its just a first run, and future reviews after its release will show better numbers

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not a place-holder, this is a real thread lol
hopefully people will post their nonsense in here rather than making countless threads about the same crap lol
yea i duno why the benchmarks are so bad
i really hope its just a first run, and future reviews after its release will show better numbers
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I could go for a pint of Guinness, right about now. How is that for OT? :silly:

Well if it's the official thread, awesome!
@above poster: 4.2 hasn't even been finalized yet, so take those benchmarks with a grain of salt. They could have another performance update for chrome coming right before it launches, or even just after
On a side note, I can't wait for gesture typing in the stock android keyboard. I know its been around for awhile with swype and a bunch of other keyboards, but they've always been stuttery on my phone.
Tapatalk² from my Optimus V

kcls said:
Well if it's the official thread, awesome!
@above poster: 4.2 hasn't even been finalized yet, so take those benchmarks with a grain of salt. They could have another performance update for chrome coming right before it launches, or even just after
On a side note, I can't wait for gesture typing in the stock android keyboard. I know its been around for awhile with swype and a bunch of other keyboards, but they've always been stuttery on my phone.
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yea, to have it officially by android is gonna be nice
also, i hate guiness with a passion
kronenbourg 1664 FTW

I have the desire s now for a year and a half and still liking it a lot, especially with the great roms and 4ext but will probably go for a new phone. Looked at the lumia 920 but compared to the n4 it is a whole lot more expensive and I do like android a lot.
Hoping the nexus 4 will come to the Netherlands with a price as good as in the US...
Verstuurd van mijn HTC Desire S

Deffo moving from ds to n4, 13th an order will be placed.
Loved the ds, more so than the hero before. My ds will either be ebayed or handed down to my mum (her first touch screen, bless, but she has no data, hmm) but, i won't be far from the beloved ds as my better half has one (bone gb stock, she won't let me root, yet)
Can't wait to order, with a n10 too, and the missus can have my n7
Nexus family lol
Roll on 13th, and thx Ben for this thread, top idea
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kcls said:
Well if it's the official thread, awesome!
@above poster: 4.2 hasn't even been finalized yet, so take those benchmarks with a grain of salt. They could have another performance update for chrome coming right before it launches, or even just after
On a side note, I can't wait for gesture typing in the stock android keyboard. I know its been around for awhile with swype and a bunch of other keyboards, but they've always been stuttery on my phone.
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Tried it on my Galaxy Nexus with the new Camera. It's not bad, but still gave me very funny predictions.

Just watched the British movie 'kill list' absolutely bonkers!
Gritty, real, nasty, real, good and bad
Sywepd form my DsereiS

Cant wait to get the N4. My desire S has been a tough cookie though might be thanks to my case mate tough case though, hopefully they make one for the n4

british humour is something i dont understand lol
everyone says UK office is better than US office.. i dont think so

anyone into cars?
if price werent an issue would you rather have a brand new car or an older car thats been modified?

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anyone into cars?
if price werent an issue would you rather have a brand new car or an older car thats been modified?
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I'd always have a brand new over modified. I'll a 1978 Porsche 911 turbo lol
It drives me nuts that people think what reviewer's got is finally version. I keep telling myself that it's not worth my time typing it out lol. It's still unoptimized people! Hardware is done but the software side is still a WIP. Once everything is optimized the phone will shine!

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anyone into cars?
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Depends on the car, would gladly take an R34!
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N4 + Android Rant [No Fanboys]

My first Android phone was the Galaxy Nexus, so I've already learned to deal with the horrible h/w, but had I switched from an iPhone to a Nexus 4, I would be VERY disappointed. The screen is a complete joke. My iPod Touch 5g completely obliterates it in every way imaginable. The phone is definitely fast though, and I love the 2gb of RAM (I literally have yet to witness a suspended app in the background close and have to reload when I go back to it...amazing!).
Overall, it isn't a bad phone. It's just not a great phone. What really lets it down is the build quality, just like every other Android. Also, let's be honest, the UI is incredibly dated in the core OS (even compared to apps like G+ or YouTube). The notification shade is incredibly ugly compared to the one in iOS. Certain perpetual quirks (some reported to Google as early as 2009 and with plenty of posts on Google's bug reporting site) also hinder the OS overall. For example, who the hell decided that notifications should still play through the phone when headphones are plugged in? What about that damn annoying "too many text messages" error? Speaking of the messaging app, the back button is supposed to go back to the last app used if you accessed it from notification tray. The only app I've found that specifically ignores this rule and always goes back to the home screen is the messaging app. WTF? I know I'll probably get flamed for saying all of this, but as cliche as it sounds, it's the little things that matter.
Many people will resort to fanboyism and childish "that's not a big deal" or "go buy an iPhone" retorts. However, I truly believe that these relatively minor issues are holding Android back considerably. If they were to get fixed (all the issues I've listed could easily be fixed in a minor point update), Android would truly be excellent.

InvalidUsername said:
...but had I switched from an iPhone to a Nexus 4, I would be VERY disappointed.
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I've come from an iPhone, an iPhone before that, and an iPhone before that. I'm loving my Nexus

You're going to get flamed because of two reasons. What you said about the N4's screen and the notification bar. Because to most of us, you're completely wrong.
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PMSL, you still here...
no fanboys yet your a known apple one!
As for all the things holding android back, I don't think they are worried with about 70% global share with iOS less than 20.
Apple are dying, they release the same phone every year and with swipe to unlock, multi touch and rubber banding patents already ruled as invalid - they are gonna struggle to even try and sue people.
Don't like the phone, return it.
Don't like stock android, why buy a phone with it?
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"I'm going to DESTROY AND **** ON EVERYTHING YOU GUYS ENJOY AND LOVE, but DONT HATE OR YOU'RE A FANBOY"
Your opinion means nothing to me and is totally objectively unfounded.

Listen to yourself. Minor issues are holding it back considerably? Really? The message error warrants buying an iPhone? You're just nitpicking and I believe not many people here will share your delusions. Jelly bean is a solid platform.
Also how is build quality bad compared to the iPhone 5? Both feel like fragile premium devices.

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Aztecbandit said:
What you said about the N4's screen and the notification bar. Because to most of us, you're completely wrong.
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I take it you've never placed an iPhone 5 and an N4 side by side. The iPod Touch has the same screen as the iPhone 5, and it is FAR suprerior. Brightness, saturation, clarity, viewing angles, gamma, and even touch response. Before I got the iPod, I was actually pretty impressed with the N4 screen because I compared it to my old Gnex (which had a far worse screen than the N4), but compared to the screen Apple uses, the N4 looks downright ugly. The brightness is a complete joke. The one advantage that I thought he N4 would have (based on reviews) was the black levels, and those turned out to be the exact same. I literally cannot tell the difference (both extremely good for LCDs).

Let's keep this discussion nice and friendly.

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PMSL
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Okay.

eagleeyetom said:
Let's keep this discussion nice and friendly.
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Thanks. It's hard to point out any flaws these days with so many fanboys on this forum though.

"the UI is incredibly dated in the core OS (even compared to apps like G+ or YouTube). The notification shade is incredibly ugly compared to the one in iOS."
Seriously? Talk about outdated OS, iOS has barely changed since its first release, only adding basic features such as wallpapers, compass, turn by turn navigation etc which Android has had for quite some time

Enjoy your maps bud.

I thought he was describing ios6. No fanboys you say? Is that so you can be the only one in the thread!

iCalculate said:
"the UI is incredibly dated in the core OS (even compared to apps like G+ or YouTube). The notification shade is incredibly ugly compared to the one in iOS."
Seriously? Talk about outdated OS, iOS has barely changed since its first release, only adding basic features such as wallpapers, compass, turn by turn navigation etc which Android has had for quite some time
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Kushblow said:
Enjoy your maps bud.
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Did I mention maps anywhere in my OP? Android has a ton of advantages over iOS. I'm simply saying that if Google were to fix a few seemingly perpetual faults with Android, it would be a truly great OS.

Isn't making an "Android is stupid. iPhone 4eva" post on XDA kind of dumb? How could you expect to meet with anything but hostility and, in my case, pity?
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Ordered my Nexus 4 on the 13th. Still waiting.

He's a known apple fanboy - look through his posts.
Bash this troll.
Everyone is a fanboy to him, as hes pure apple posting and *****ing on an android forum.
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estallings15 said:
Isn't making an "Android is stupid. iPhone 4eva" post on XDA kind of dumb?
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Ya, that would be kinda dumb.
Go back and reread my OP. Don't post until you've read it and understand it clearly. Ok? Thanks.
chrisjcks said:
He's a known apple fanboy - look through his posts.
Bash this troll.
Everyone is a fanboy to him, as hes pure apple posting and *****ing on an android forum.
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Actually, you're a known Google fanboy. You've defended every single mistake Google has made with the Nexus launch and with the device itself. You went your as far as being a jerk to people who hadn't received their device yet in the shipping thread. Troll elsewhere. Do you have nothing better to do that to post in this thread?

Ok. Thread closed. We don't need yet another Google vs. Apple war on XDA.