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Problem when upgrading from TuMa v1.3 to Helmi, no phone?

Hey All-
Rather then adding to the large Helmi thread, I figured it would be best to start my own...
In short today I upgraded from TuMa v1.3 to Helmi's new ROM: Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU_2.3_32mb_v1.rar
Everything went fine during the upgrade, I set the Operator Code to T%CID? which was retrieved by using GetDeviceData.exe and the upgrade went smoothly... but now the phone functionality doesn't work at all. I've tried with two different SIM's, one being a T-Mobile and the other a Cingular. Both just show no service when inserted, although if I place those SIM's into other phones everything works properly without issue and I get 'full bars' (I have another Cingular 8125 and a T-Mobile SDA).
Here is what I have done so far:
- Reupgraded the Radio to the latest rev 1.15
- Recreated the nk.nbf again with retyping the operator code
- Reupgraded to the ROM to Helmi's
- Reunlocked SIM with xdadev_all_unlock-v1.5.exe
... and still no phone service.
Any suggestions on how to get the phone functionality to work properly? Its pretty much useless right now...
Thanks!
tempie23

I'm not sure that T%CID is right for an operator code... I know for O2 UK it's O2___001 and I'm sure a T-Mobile code isT-MOB101, both of these are 8 digits... check you're devicedata output again and use the setoperator.bat to set it properly, then try again
It's all good clean fun

spkr4thdd
I have the same operator code T%CID? but only on WM5. When i use 2003SE it is DANGA001.
tempie23
I had such error on TuMa 1.4 but reinstalling the ROM helped for a while. Then I tried helmi's ROM and the problem gone. But a couple of days ago it appeared once and reflashing did not help. What I done is downgraded to 2003SE, did a hardreset and reinserted SIM. The phone came back to work. Then installed helmi's ROM again. Now it is working for a day without any trouble, HOPE it's gone forever.

Tried a few things...
I tried downgrading and then reupgrading, but it still is stuck. No phone service. Interestingly enough the LED for the phone doesn't even come on anymore.
Interestingly enough when I select the phone settings from the upper menu I'm getting a Popup message stating "The phone is not ready. Wait 15 Seconds and try again." Obviously waiting 15 seconds does nothing...
Any other ideas?
Thanks!
tempie23

sometimes (happened to me) the operator info corrupts when upgrading to WM5
copy the files attached to the update directory and run 'MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe'

spkr4thdd said:
I'm not sure that T%CID is right for an operator code... I know for O2 UK it's O2___001 and I'm sure a T-Mobile code isT-MOB101, both of these are 8 digits... check you're devicedata output again and use the setoperator.bat to set it properly, then try again
It's all good clean fun
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No it is not, it sounds like he has the same SX 66 that I have.
The ID is = AT%CID?
I posted this in this thead Here

read my above post, it can happen to anyone when upgrading to any wm5, mine happened the very first time i upgraded (TuMa 1.3), i dont know how it happens, but it seems to be permanent even with further reflashes (haven't tried 2k3)

NO Service
Midget_1990 said:
read my above post, it can happen to anyone when upgrading to any wm5, mine happened the very first time i upgraded (TuMa 1.3), i dont know how it happens, but it seems to be permanent even with further reflashes (haven't tried 2k3)
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HI.
Sorry for my post, but I did not "get" how to fix the "NO Service" error:
This is what I've done today with Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU3.5_v1.4.CF2 by baniaczek:
Hi all.
Today finally spent some time, trying to upgrade my Qtek 9090.
Everything went fine:
1st) Did a SD backup of my current settings;
2nd) Updated ROM with SetOperator to my Operator (got from getdevice.txt);
2nd) Updated without problems;
Then used the Qtek by 5 minutes (inclusively i did a phone call), after that could no longer get the "phone" working - exactly when I received a call, the phone "gone out" and never more. After several soft resets and hard resets the phone was always with "no service" message (but strangely, I could go to settings phone, and look for "the broadcasting" networks).
I swaped the SIM to another phone and it was working, never the less I got another working sim, but the problem continues (btw, I always have the PinCode disabled, and I remember now that I forgot to test enabling PinCode request!!!).
Then, just in case I downgraded the phone to W2003SE, again, and everything was working fine.
My radio was 1.12. So upgraded radio to 1.15, and started over again but with no sucess.
When I downgraded once again, the Qtek works fine with either RADIO versions or sims.
Has anyone got this "nice feature"?????
Is there any overcame solution? (My only missing test is to enable Pincode, and test if it works?)
tks for any help

I'm having the same issue here as well, tried the comm manger on and off and disable and enable it. Still makes no difference, someone please help me out, I can't get anyone to help me

Problem with WM5 on BA - No Radio...

Hi
Tried looking through all the threads and checking what I have done but still no joy hence post.
Have upgraded my old BA PH20B (I have another one so no panic) to WM5 with the latest WM2k5_AKU3.2_32mb_v1.3.2 setting Operator to ORANG001 (Orange UK).
1st time I tried everything seemed fine except although I had a signal from Orange I couldnt ring the phone (went to answer machine) and if I tried calling out the call disconnected with 0min 0sec calltime. I did receive a text message saying I had missed a call (me calling phone to test). But couldn't make or receive calls.
So I tried again from scratch twice and both times I have no signal and in Device Info have "Radio version: NONE" - followed instructions to the letter anyone any ideas?
Cheers
RichardC
ps. I can re-flash ROM OK.

this happened to me, too. but only when i changed batteries...
try to soft reset until the word NONE is replaced by the radio rom version (during boot up).
good luck!

Thanks for that, did soft reset and suddenly I have a radio ROM, so removed battery and inserted SIM then no radio again. Soft reset and radio back...weird
Now I can make calls and receive text but can't call phone (engaged or answerphone, maybe network I guess) but also GPRS connection info wrong so guess better start searching for info on that now. lol.
Thanks for the tip.

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Makes sense thanks...just the GPRS issue now. lol

Just stepped through GPRS settings not changing anything but clicked OK at the end and it works now. Looks like install didnt configure everything fully.
Weird issue I now have is dialling out cancels and yet the phone I dialled rings about 10 seconds later (very weird).
When receiving a call - nothing happens on the BA, no ringing down phone calling out from then when the network drops the call the BA makes a small burp sound. So it knows it should be ringing but something is stopping it.
Tried upgrade to 1.15 Radio ROM - same. So now going to try downgrade to original WM2003SE Radio ROM version (1.06) and see how that goes unless someone has another bright idea?

same issue here
I am now experiencing the same issue, suspect its battery related though...hope someone can come up with something better than that. :lol:

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You'll need to update those links for the new forum it seems.

Tried everything but although it all worked phone usage was inconsistant. Sometimes calling out works, sometimes just drops call with duration 00:00. Sometimes receives a call, other times goes straight to voice mail or un-obtainable tone even when signal fine and 2nd BA running WM2003SE works fine (same operator, Orange UK). Bluetooth also needed re-boot most of the time to be enabled. So reverted to WM2003SE for now .

just for comparison i have an xda iis that works fine phone and all and im in wm2k5......except cam doesnt work lol gunna fix taht later .....i used radio version 12.00

hirsty said:
just for comparison i have an xda iis that works fine phone and all and im in wm2k5......except cam doesnt work lol gunna fix taht later .....i used radio version 12.00
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Thanks for that I tried 12 and then finally went back to standard WM2003SE radio version out of desperation. Nothing worked.
When I have the energy! I may try upgrading my other (newer) BA to see if that helps but first I need to backup my current ROMS as it works faultlessly under WM2003SE...why am I thinking of upgrading I ask myself

Alhumdulillah
everything is working fine for me
AKU 3.2 owns
CAM is fine
ricardo there must be some other problem i hope u didnt drop the phone too many times
looks more like a hardware problem to me

Hi
Phone is 100% OK with WM2003SE, so not a hardware issue...may try again soon, thanks for input.

Has anyone experienced this kind of Radio Problem?

Hello,
I've been a BlueAngel (SX66-Cingular Variant) user since a long time. It'd been working great. I re-flashed the original rom several times with the new BA updates/ roms from XDA's Ftp site and they all worked like charm.
ISSUE:
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Lately (since a month), I am experiencing some issues with it. It seems to be always searching for Network/ Service, all the time. An ongoing call will get disconnected. And very frequently i'll see a NO SERVICE notification. The NETWORK INDICATOR in the task bar will go to a High Strength and then Searching status. It is usually taking more than 30 mins to search the operator for me to make/ recieve any call. People trying to reach me inform me that my phone is Not Reacheable.
I've reflashed it to different BA ROM combinations but it didn't help.
I dont want to assume that it is a Hardware failure as i didnt do anything which can cause a damage to the instrument.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
What all can i try? What is the BEST SUITED ROM for this Device?
<<<<<<<<<<<<<
>>>>> ONE MORE QUERY :-
My Blueangel Back Cover Shows that this device is PH20B, but the ROM indicates that it is a PH20B1 Device. (This device is actually without a camera) Why do i see a difference here?
>>> USERS in INDIA or NCR Region: Is there any authorised/ recommended place i can get this device serviced?
Any help or suggestion is very much appreciated. Thank you all in advance.
- Harry

My SX66 is now Dead!! Pls. Help!
Desperate to fix this problem, i pulled the battery to power drain the BlueAngel. I even went a step ahead and shorted all the power connectors (which connect to battery) of the device with help of a metal needle. I placed the battery back and now the set is dead!!
I just can't believe this. How can i get this device powered on now??
Thank you all for help in advance!
-Harry

Try to plug into the power supply and see if it work. Let the phone charge for a while if it doesnt power up when u plug in. Try this and see if it work.
As for the "phone keep searching for operator" problem, I have the same problem too. Whenever I go underground and the phone lost signal, it will take forever to recover the signal. What you can do is to go to "Setting"->"Phone"->"Network" tab and select "Find Network" and the signal should recover.. Note to set the "Network selection" to automatic. I had encountered problem when I set it to manual where the phone will show good signal but call cannot come in.
hope this help...
cryptocoder said:
Desperate to fix this problem, i pulled the battery to power drain the BlueAngel. I even went a step ahead and shorted all the power connectors (which connect to battery) of the device with help of a metal needle. I placed the battery back and now the set is dead!!
I just can't believe this. How can i get this device powered on now??
Thank you all for help in advance!
-Harry
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bioskoh said:
Try to plug into the power supply and see if it work. Let the phone charge for a while if it doesnt power up when u plug in. Try this and see if it work.
As for the "phone keep searching for operator" problem, I have the same problem too. Whenever I go underground and the phone lost signal, it will take forever to recover the signal. What you can do is to go to "Setting"->"Phone"->"Network" tab and select "Find Network" and the signal should recover.. Note to set the "Network selection" to automatic. I had encountered problem when I set it to manual where the phone will show good signal but call cannot come in.
hope this help...
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Thanks a million Bioskoh! Your power supply suggestion got this device back to life.
I am still facing the network/ radio issue with this device. I already have Automatic set under the network selection settings. I am facing this issue everywhere... Even where the signal should be very strong. I dont know what else to do . Any other suggestion/s are welcome..
Thank you again! Viva la XDA-developers.
-harry

Any other suggestions please....
I have installed Radio 1.13.10 with 1.42 (T-Mob/NL), but this issue still persists. This device has become more slower and lazy in the past few months.
I am still mad at the phone function of this device. Once half of the battery is consumed, It wont even allow me to make/ recieve any call.
Someone on this forum please help. Is there any New ROM update from Siemens (>1.33 Rom) please?
Also friends, how is the stability of WM 2k5 on this device? Would you recommend installing it just to see if it fixes this issue?
One Last Question: What is the BEST ROM combination for this device? Also any customized Ext ROM with all the patches/ fixes included. Links to the location are greatly appreciated.
Thank you all again for your time and help!
-Harry

For WM03 on SX66, you can use the ROM from the SX66 Standardization Project website. Link: http://home.comcast.net/~sx66-blueangel/
As for WM05, I am using the Helmi WM05 AKU3.5 Ver1.4 ROM. It is quite stable. You can go to this website for detail: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Helmi
You will need to have some patience and follow the upgrade procedure to make everything work good. Remember to read/search the forum for answers.
Have fun flashing your ROM!
cryptocoder said:
I have installed Radio 1.13.10 with 1.42 (T-Mob/NL), but this issue still persists. This device has become more slower and lazy in the past few months.
I am still mad at the phone function of this device. Once half of the battery is consumed, It wont even allow me to make/ recieve any call.
Someone on this forum please help. Is there any New ROM update from Siemens (>1.33 Rom) please?
Also friends, how is the stability of WM 2k5 on this device? Would you recommend installing it just to see if it fixes this issue?
One Last Question: What is the BEST ROM combination for this device? Also any customized Ext ROM with all the patches/ fixes included. Links to the location are greatly appreciated.
Thank you all again for your time and help!
-Harry
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cryptocoder, a number of us have similar issues, but so far it has been restricted to Orange UK users.
Do you find that when you attempt to make an outgoing call that you get three short beeps at least 50% of the time? And that incoming calls either go to answerphone after a delay, or alternatively they fail with a number out-of-service tone?
Finally, do you have issues sending txt messages soon after a failed call. I get the message "The phone is not ready, please try again in 15 sec".

Diamond doesn't hook up with network service

Hi all,
I'm having problems with my HTC diamond, which I hope you don't mind me dumping here for advice.
From one minute to the other, my Diamond suddenly stopped connecting to my provider's network. That is, I cannot make phonecalls, send sms, etc. In the task-bar, there's now an antenna-icon with an exclamation mark. If I remove the SIM card and slide it into another phone, there's no such problems.
Here's what I've already tried to do -- without any results:
1.) call my provider, they said the SIM should be fine, it's registered as active (this makes sense, considering the SIM is working properly in another phone and other SIM cards do not work on the Diamond phone either.)
2.) switch network selection to 'manual'. This keeps giving an error message, saying that the device can't read the network settings ("try again later").
3.) soft reset (red button on the back)
4.) hard reset (volume button + enter button + red button)
5.) hard reset (volume button + enter button + red button) including NAND format.
6.) re-installing the 1.39 ROM (available at HTC.com)
7.) (out of sheer desparation) hard SPL (olinex)
8.) tried to downgrade to the 1.34 ROM (after hard SPL), but failed (froze)
Some possibly interesting information:
1.) I was running TomTom 7.0 navigation software, the back of the Diamond got quite warm (which I know is normal)
2.) The Diamond was hooked up to a universal 5V charger for a car.
3.) I can't get a GPS lock anymore (e.g. with Googlemaps, TomTom)
I'm quite sure that the problem lies within the device, not in the network settings.
Some left-over hypotheses:
1.) I blew up a chip using a universal 5V charger (perhaps it had too high a peak-voltage).
2.) A chip was destroyed by the heat of running TomTom for an hour straight.
But honestly, I don't know very much about this all. Hope you can help me.
Thanks in advance,
Sven

i think this is a "feature" of the Diamond
Mine will randomly loose signal for 30secs - 1 min, then pop back

Mine's failed to pop back for about four days now ;-)
I called HTC. After running through all the check-ups they decided it probably needed repair. They're picking it up today.

i have the exact same problems you listed, im on t mobile but my phone does not pick up any networks. i eventually found out that i needed to plug in my phone to my charger for it to detect a service but i was still getting many dropped calls. did you just call HTC to see if they could fix it? im starting to give up after trying almost everything that you listed, good luck fixing it as i am in the same boat as you

The same problem here...But, my diamond is already in the service... Will wait a few weeks and if you want I will let you know what was the problem. When it happened I was using duffy's rom, I think 2,9 version. Maybe...if you were with the same, might be something wrong there. But one thing is sure...when I get my phone back FOR SURE I will put the original ROM without messing around. I recomend you the same!
Good luck!

Kaiser, no service - Help - ?

Last night i was playing with my gps ( Navigon - Google Maps - Google Nav) I switch the phone off at the comm Manager and left it off like that the whole night.
This morning when i switched it on, the phone refused to receive any signal.
Ive tried the following
Soft Reset
Hard Reset
Different Sims
Switching flight mode on and off aswell as the phone tabs
Ive changed the band from auto to gsm and back and still nothing
Gps, Wifi and everything else still works perfectly.
Before i return it and wait like 50 days for them to fix it, what can i try?

stevh0 said:
Last night i was playing with my gps ( Navigon - Google Maps - Google Nav) I switch the phone off at the comm Manager and left it off like that the whole night.
This morning when i switched it on, the phone refused to receive any signal.
Ive tried the following
Soft Reset
Hard Reset
Different Sims
Switching flight mode on and off aswell as the phone tabs
Ive changed the band from auto to gsm and back and still nothing
Gps, Wifi and everything else still works perfectly.
Before i return it and wait like 50 days for them to fix it, what can i try?
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More information please. Rom, Radio, SPL?
Also have you tried calling your provider to ask if theres any problems at their end?
Mark.

I have no idea what rom..
lemme check..i have not changed a thing since i took delivery of the phone about 9 11 month ago.
my sim works perfectly in another phone.
rom 1.56.405.5
rom date 08.28.07
radio version 1.27.12.32

Does your sim work perfectly in another phone *in the same location* though? It was suggested you contact your network provider to see if they have any known issues or there are any reasons why your phone shouldn't be working. It may help if you have the IMEI number ready if you are in the UK, in case there is some reason why it has been blacklisted. If your TyTN II wont work with another sim in it (ideally from another network provider) and your usual network provider is unaware of any reason why this should be happening, then as a stock standard TyTN II, I think you'll have a good chance of having it looked at for free under warranty by HTC. Here in the UK I had my ROM reflashed from their WM 6.1 abomination back to the original WM 6.0 version by HTCs repair centre within one day so unless you choose a turtleback express postage option to send it in, there's no way it should take 50 days.

It started working all on its own again? how weird is that?

it had been normal ?
my tytnII had became the same after flight mode had turned on.
when fight mode off, it displayed "no service".

yiwangwuqian020 said:
my tytnII had became the same after flight mode had turned on.
when fight mode off, it displayed "no service".
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you just use GSM-schen-HTC.Kaiser.CommManager.3G

hi, first thanks a lot,
my tytnII had this commManager software. I just used this commManager to turn on or off this flight mode .

how about no sim detected?

This problem is on my phone ,but this prog is not running perfectly. Error report at cca 95% full "sufficient system permissions"
Sorry for little English!
Please help me
radio:1.65.17.56
rom: through

Gastrocsaba said:
This problem is on my phone ,but this prog is not running perfectly. Error report at cca 95% full "sufficient system permissions"
Sorry for little English!
Please help me
radio:1.65.17.56
rom: through
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after I reflash this tytn`s rom, it remain no service.
I think it had wrong with its gsm hardware.

Sorry for my english.
I found this problem too.( no service)
My solution is
1. I format rom by use MTTY tool.
(1. How to check and repair bad block
a). Please make sure that you are SuperCID and you understand the importance of hard spl as this maybe a dangerious operation for you.
b). Download Mtty.exe file in the attachment below and save it to your computer.
c). Open connection setting of your activesync or WMDC on your PC and disable "Allow USB connection".
d). Put your divice into Bootloader mode and connect to your PC via USB
e). Run Mtty.exe from your PC
f). Selec "USB" in port box and then click OK
g). Press Enter once or twice to let the screen dispay "USB>" or "CMD>"
h). Type "info 8" to check if your device has bad blocks. And if there are any,
i). Type "task 2a" to fix the bad blocks.
2. Flash Rom again.
3. Now Signal come.

And you turned your Kaiser into a BRICK...
... If your SPL supports "task 2a".