SPL downgrade? - 8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading

Heloo brothers....
I just want to know is there any SPL downrgrading techniqe avilable?
my pda's specification are as follows
ipl 3.08
spl 3.08
gsm 02.19.11
os 2.21.2.6
I am unable to install wm6 nor T -mobile's orginall ruu working is there any way to install 1m6 on my machine...i am new user so i need help plzzzzz.

I want kno the same thing.
Is there a tool to downgrade just the SPL/IPL alone without changing anything else or still downgrading the OS ROM is the only way?

freeyayo50 said:
I want kno the same thing.
Is there a tool to downgrade just the SPL/IPL alone without changing anything else or still downgrading the OS ROM is the only way?
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there are several tools that will end up by giving you what you want but you must build the RUU yourself.
HOW:
Get an RUU with the IPL/SPL version you want (be carefull with the G3/G4 difference!!!!)
Extract the nk.nbf from the updater and then extract the chunks (you can use my tool or typho5.exe)
Get nb2nbf_tornado.exe and make your own nk.nbf with IPL/SPL only
Pack it again inside an RUU updater and use it to flash
That's it
cheers
PS:
Use the search to feature to learn about "nb2nbf_tornado.exe"

mestrini said:
there are several tools that will end up by giving you what you want but you must build the RUU yourself.
HOW:
Get an RUU with the IPL/SPL version you want (be carefull with the G3/G4 difference!!!!)
Extract the nk.nbf from the updater and then extract the chunks (you can use my tool or typho5.exe)
Get nb2nbf_tornado.exe and make your own nk.nbf with IPL/SPL only
Pack it again inside an RUU updater and use it to flash
That's it
cheers
PS:
Use the search to feature to learn about "nb2nbf_tornado.exe"
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Or you could flash the lowest T-mobile rom you can find, it should put you back to 1.08 or something like that!!! When i have to downgrade i always get these!!! Then you just upgrade your OS again to what you want and there you go!

I have a HTC Wizard G3. Can I use Button Wizard ROM's SPL/IPL?
I used nb2nbf_wizard.exe to make what's in the attached picture. Does it look correct?
Also, I have nb2nbf_tornado.exe & nb2nbf_wizard.exe...are they the same thing. There both v2.02.

It looks fine to me. post results after, plz
...and check my signature tx

mestrini said:
It looks fine to me. post results after, plz
...and check my signature tx
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Great!! I deff will.
When using your Wizard Service Tool, if i do Read ROM-->SPL...will this also read the IPL as well??
I want to know so I can just do a Write ROM---->SPL to restore both after I downgrade to SPL/IPL 1.xx.

freeyayo50 said:
Great!! I deff will.
When using your Wizard Service Tool, if i do Read ROM-->SPL...will this also read the IPL as well??
I want to know so I can just do a Write ROM---->SPL to restore both after I downgrade to SPL/IPL 1.xx.
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nope. IPL is not readable via RAPI/TRUEFFS tools like my tool, only via boot loader and SD card i guess...

mestrini said:
nope. IPL is not readable via RAPI/TRUEFFS tools like my tool, only via boot loader and SD card i guess...
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Oh ok. Then how would i make a backup of my SPL/IPL. I looked at aWizard, but it doesn't support it.

freeyayo50 said:
Oh ok. Then how would i make a backup of my SPL/IPL. I looked at aWizard, but it doesn't support it.
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no it doesn't. aWizard is based on same apps as my tool; in fact aWizard is where i got my inspiration from (thanks ahlok_hk )
as i told before, only using mtty and boot loader commands to make a full backup to the SD card, but for that the phone must be CID unlocked
But IPL/SPL are generic so you just grab a RUU updater with same IPL/SPL as yours and you'll have your backup

I extracted these from a OEM Cingular ROM. What are the differences between both sets of SPL/IPL's??
When restoring my SPL/IPL, which set should i use?

Okay, this is where you got to be careful since a pair is for G3 (IPL_1) and the other is for G4 (IPL_2). You don't see it in 1.x ROMs since there were no G4 devices then
cheers

mestrini said:
Okay, this is where you got to be careful since a pair is for G3 (IPL_1) and the other is for G4 (IPL_2). You don't see it in 1.x ROMs since there were no G4 devices then
cheers
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Wow, thanks for letting me know. I'll make sure to use the IPL_1 for my restore.

Related

SOLUTION FOUND -CID/sim UNLOCKING FOR WIZARD WITH AKU2 ROMS.

warnning; does not work with g4 wizards!!!!!
this steps are to cid unlock and also to unlock sim in the folowing devices; qtek 9100, i-mate k-jam, mda vario, orange spv m3000, o2 xda mini s, dopod 838, Cingular 8125
first; you must make a full backup of you wizard before doing this , I personally use [wizBackup.exe] posted below for my backups and restores. This is not mandatory but could save an enormous amount of trouble.
I as most people with a wizard with the aku2 rom found out that it cannot be cid unlock with lokiwiz tool, you will get the following;{error:itwritedisk-an internal error occurred}.
. that is till now.
downgrade rom here http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7696581/htc%20wizard/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
note- this steps is for unlocking the cid of the wizard with aku2 rom.
how to cid. unlock all wizard variants ( that have the latest rom build )
first download custom__ruu_wizard_1050412_wwe_101_11210_wwe. rom from the ftp site from the above link, unpack it and just click the romupdateutility_wizard_noid.exe to start downgrading. Simply follow the prompts.
after the rom are loaded go thru the initial setup as you would with any rom.
now download the (lokiwiz02b) from here;
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/7696581/htc wizard/CUSTOM__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Make sure you unzip lokiwiz to the root o the c: drive.
please copy the whole lokiwiz folder to the root of the drive,not the contentents of the folder!!!!!
and follow the instructions .do not forget to copy the cab file(enable rapi) to your device and run it before running lokiwiz.
Now run lockiwiz and unlock your machine, your machine will reboot itself. if yoy see an eroot while unlocking that says;
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CopyFileToTFFS(cidunlocked.bin:0, 0, 00010000)
ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred.
this means that you device not been unloked......try again............
.................................................................................................................................................................................
That’s it your wizard is unlocked. Make sure yew keep the [lock_backup.bin] in a safe place you may need it for guaranty purposes.
Now flash the latest aku2 rom from your provider.- [very important,to avoid future problems wit rom updates]
then u can flash any rom you want.
question: if i cid unlock and sim unlock my phone (after installing custom 1.5 wwe rom) and then i install latest aku2 i-mate italian rom, will the sim unlock (and cid one too) be preserved?
Answer: i can confirm that that upgrading to the latest aku2 rom the wizard remains cid unlocked.
Special thanks to the author of the above cooked rom [button] also to machinagod for the lokiwiz tool and joninla for finding the downgrade rom, molski for is input and everyone that contributed to the cause.
do not try to downgrade using an older wizard rom other than the one posted above it will not work
also this {how to} is for the htc wizard only it may work with other devices but i don’t know, so if you turn you device into a brick do not blame me. use it at your own risk
if you device is from a operator like: 02, orange etc... You will void your guaranty unlocking cid, but don’t despair, if you keep the [lock_backup.bin] file that the lockiz tool generated you can restore cid to factory default.
this proccess only needs to be done once in the wizards lifetime.
Enjoy;
Jose faria.
donate if you like my work
Faria, can you tell me if this process will do it for the HTC Prophets with rom 2.x ???
I've got an imate JAMin with aku2 from factory. Just downloaded older Imate Rom... will try the process when i get home
8) wish me luck
maybe if you find an older rom for you device i only have a wizard.take a look at the lokiwiz tread i belive tha someone mentioned the HTC Prophets.
jamichy said:
I've got an imate JAMin with aku2 from factory. Just downloaded older Imate Rom... will try the process when i get home
8) wish me luck
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Bet I will!!
For the record, your Jamin's rom is the same that was available to download some weeks ago with the Aku2??
jamichy said:
I've got an imate JAMin with aku2 from factory. Just downloaded older Imate Rom... will try the process when i get home
8) wish me luck
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let me know how you get on.
onesolo said:
Faria, can you tell me if this process will do it for the HTC Prophets with rom 2.x ???
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it may be possible,if you have an old custom rom for your device ,found this;
On the one hand, HTC Prophet is a complete copy (both software and hardware are meant) of HTC Wizard. On the other hand, it's equal to HTC Magician in appearance. That is why today review will be quite short, we will only discuss external elements and a new camera, all other aspects were highlighted in the review of HTC Wizard.
http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/review/htc-prophet-en.shtml
Hi Faria, thank you for your HowTo!
Now i know the wizard remains CID unlocked after the upgrade and that's good. I only hope that it stays SIM unlocked too.
Bye
Sadly, cant move back to older rom... keep getting error message saying the nk.nbf file is not valid/older than your current file.
I guess we just have to wait for an updated version of Lockiwiz
sh*t forgot to post the address to the downgrade rom.here it ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
sorry guys
jamichy said:
Sadly, cant move back to older rom... keep getting error message saying the nk.nbf file is not valid/older than your current file.
I guess we just have to wait for an updated version of Lockiwiz
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yes u can, use this rom to downgrade
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
faria said:
jamichy said:
Sadly, cant move back to older rom... keep getting error message saying the nk.nbf file is not valid/older than your current file.
I guess we just have to wait for an updated version of Lockiwiz
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yes u can, use this rom to downgrade
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
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Hello, could you please tell me what is changed in the custom ROM???
I am willing to do the same thing for the prophet.
Thanks
nothing except i did not post the link to the rom by mistake,did you use an old i-mate rom to downgrade? do not it will not work, use the one in the above link.thats the only one that it will work that a know for sure.
faria said:
nothing except i did not post the link to the rom by mistake,did you use an old i-mate rom to downgrade? do not it will not work, use the one in the above link.thats the only one that it will work that a know for sure.
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You mean to use the wizard rom on the prophet?
Won't that overwrite the bootloader with the one for the wizard???
andrew_sh said:
faria said:
nothing except i did not post the link to the rom by mistake,did you use an old i-mate rom to downgrade? do not it will not work, use the one in the above link.thats the only one that it will work that a know for sure.
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You mean to use the wizard rom on the prophet?
Won't that overwrite the bootloader with the one for the wizard???
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haaa you have the prophet
dont do that it may turn the prophet into a brick the only way is to find an old custom rom for your device. take a look at the ftp site it may have one there.
sorry
I told you Faria that it can be done
Great that it worked out okay, I can imagine how happy you are feeling right now
Nice how-to by the way.
mm..i am currently using T-mobile MDA Vario with the original rom
is that mean i don't have to apply it to unlock the cid?
i just use the lokiwiz 2b to unlock the CID, after it, even i upgrade to the newest rom e.g. the new O2 rom, my CID still remain unlock?
siupiu said:
mm..i am currently using T-mobile MDA Vario with the original rom
is that mean i don't have to apply it to unlock the cid?
i just use the lokiwiz 2b to unlock the CID, after it, even i upgrade to the newest rom e.g. the new O2 rom, my CID still remain unlock?
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THATS IT.
siupiu said:
mm..i am currently using T-mobile MDA Vario with the original rom
is that mean i don't have to apply it to unlock the cid?
i just use the lokiwiz 2b to unlock the CID, after it, even i upgrade to the newest rom e.g. the new O2 rom, my CID still remain unlock?
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THATS IT.
good, really thx~~^_^

New Cing 8125: ipl 2.25 / spl 2.25 - which downgrade works?

The desire is to CID unlock the 8125 so the phone can be Summiter-ized. This was new-in-the-box from Cingular:
ipl 2.25
spl 2.25
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I saw faria's post http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=47848 but it states this won't work above 2.21.
I believe I can downgrade to the 1.08 original stock image posted in the FTP area, but I'm not certain this will work. I read where someone tried downgrading and the spl remain 2.x and things didn't work out so well. This is where I read it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=75
The quote directly above is from the lokiwiz0.3 thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768 - but no one's actually confirmed it will unlock Cingular's latest ROM. Folks there just mention up to about 2.21 or so and the thread shifted to talk about the G4 chip and it's challenges.
Has anyone with a new Cingular phone tried lokiwiz0.3? Or how about CID unlocking anything higher than a 2.21 ROM? I'd just try this myself, but I'm stepping a buddy through this remotely. I can carry him all the way with URLs, cool cabs, and tweaks, all I need help with is something I haven't personally had to face - I don't wish to brick his phone.
Thanks for any testimonials!
Is it G3 or G4 phone? If it's a G4 phone then you can not downgrade to 1.x Rom as they don't include G4 bootloader.
kyphur said:
Is it G3 or G4 phone? If it's a G4 phone then you can not downgrade to 1.x Rom as they don't include G4 bootloader.
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It's G3; there's no trailing decimalization on the ipl / spl.
I have the same ipl/spl, and the unlock tool did not work for me, i would also like to know if its possible to downgrade this rom...
Give it a try.
I think you might need to replace one file, "RUUGetInfo.exe".
Try this:
Download the Cingular 1.8 Rom.
Rename it from *.exe to *.rar
Open the rar and extract the files into an empty folder.
Replace the "RUUGetInfo.exe" file with the attached one.
Run RomUpdateUtility.exe
If everything worked it will think you phone has ver 1.2 Rom so it will allow the 1.8 upgrade.
As always, try at your own risk...
Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...
virtualsandwich said:
Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...
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No.. Not CID unlocked, use the Cingular 1.8:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
before downgrading to a 1.x rom be sure your IPL/SPL version DOES NOT END WITH .0001
kyphur said:
virtualsandwich said:
Is this the rom i should be using? ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Im having problems finding the original Cingular 1.8 rom anywhere...
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No.. Not CID unlocked, use the Cingular 1.8:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
before downgrading to a 1.x rom be sure your IPL/SPL version DOES NOT END WITH .0001
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hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?
faria said:
hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?
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If you are asking me, mine has always been CID unlocked, just trying to help the new guys a bit...
kyphur said:
faria said:
hi friend...
did you manage to unlocke the pda?
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If you are asking me, mine has always been CID unlocked, just trying to help the new guys a bit...
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haa.. tough it was you
Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!
virtualsandwich said:
Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!
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So just to be clear, you had a brand new store bought or telesales Cingular 8125 CID locked with ipl / spl 2.25 and you simply re-flashed it with the stock Cingular 1.08 ROM - and it worked?
If you haven't re-flashed already, would you mind sharing the ipl / spl (and other) versions?
100Tbps said:
virtualsandwich said:
Alright i got it unlocked without replacing RUUGetInfo.exe, i downloaded the 1.8 rom, the phone took it without problem, then Lokiwiz worked like a charm after downgrading the rom. THANKS!
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So just to be clear, you had a brand new store bought or telesales Cingular 8125 CID locked with ipl / spl 2.25 and you simply re-flashed it with the stock Cingular 1.08 ROM - and it worked?
If you haven't re-flashed already, would you mind sharing the ipl / spl (and other) versions?
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humm ....yes... i would like to know that to...
Latest G3 Cingular ROM update worked
It works for me too. I just ran lockwiz3.0a to unlock SIM, than downgraded to ver 1.8. Then run lockwiz 2.0b to unlock CID and then install latest custom AKU3.0 ROM. Thanks everyone contributed to that forum.
Work for me. Here's what i did to my new (warranty exchange) 8125 with IPL/SPL 2.25
- unlock SIM lock with Lokiwiz03a
- downgrade to 1.08 with Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
- it now has IPL 1.08 and SPL 2.25
- unlock CID with Lokiwiz02b
- upgrade to PDAMobiz AKU2.3 v120 (the best ROM i've tried so far)
I believe you could skip SIM unlock with Lokiwiz03a and unlock both SIM and CID with Lokiwiz02b after downgrade to IPL1.08/SPL2.25.
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.
kanate said:
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.
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G4 phone can't downgrade at all. 1.x Roms do not have G4 Bootloaders.
A few users have had problems when their IPL/SPL versions don't match. So there is the possibility that you will brick your phone.
Did you bother going into the OS on the phone at all after the downgrade to unlock? or did you just connect it to USB and run lokiwiz?
kyphur said:
kanate said:
dont know why other people in Lokiwiz03a thread said not to do unlock if IPL and SPL are not the same and will brick the phone. may be he had G4 chip.
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G4 phone can't downgrade at all. 1.x Roms do not have G4 Bootloaders.
A few users have had problems when their IPL/SPL versions don't match. So there is the possibility that you will brick your phone.
Did you bother going into the OS on the phone at all after the downgrade to unlock? or did you just connect it to USB and run lokiwiz?
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Sure thing, you need to sync and go into the OS to install EnableRapi.cab in order to use Lokiwiz02b anyway.
After it's downgraded to IPL1.08/SPL2.25, I let the phone customized itself with all those cingular things and reboot again and install EnableRapi.cab and run Lokiwiz02b to unlock the CID
I have the IPL/SPL 2.25 version of the 8125 ROM.
For some reason, after unlocking with lokiwiz03a, downloading and unpacking etc the 1.8 ROM, i run it and get an ERROR 202: Connection, that it doesn't find my phone
The phone IS connected, synched etc etc. Could this be a problem because I'm running windows vista?
hmm.
edit: with windows xp, I can begin the flash (my 8125 goes to the tri-color, displays IPL and SPL of 2.25, but then the program throws an ERROR 260: UPDATE ERROR, then tells me the recovery steps (it always jsut boots to WINCE after this.)
Anyone know whats up?
Quote:
"Work for me. Here's what i did to my new (warranty exchange) 8125 with IPL/SPL 2.25"
key words being warranty exchange?
or will this work on a brand new one?
just thought I'd ask
and to Clutch: how's the phone now? How exactly does one know of the Ipl/Spl #'s?
I believe as long as it's G3 chip (IPL & SPL don't end with 0001), it should work.

HEEEEEEELPP !!! ROM DOWNGRADE ON XDA MINI S

Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
I3aYardo said:
Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
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Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
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I would be very thankful if you could post a link or send me the ROM upgrade Utility needed
best regards
Bayardo
risidoro said:
I3aYardo said:
Hello everybody !!
I just spent about 28 hours reading the threads in order to change my GERMAN O2 XDA MINI S (Wizard) ROM. Into an english one.
For that matter I know I need to unlock my CID, but since i have the latest ROM installed, IPL 2.21.001 and SPL 2.21.001 Lockwiz won't work !!!!
so I tried to Downgrade my Rom in order to make the Lockwiz work, but I am not able to find a suiting German Rom anywhere on the Net.
So I was wondering if nebody would be kind enough to tell me where to find and older German ROM or how I can avoid DOWNGRADING and simply unlock my CID
best regards ... Bayardo
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Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
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Hi risidoro,
I am trying upgrade my O2 German Wizrad G4 version into WWE, I followed your instruction & has used nb2nbf to compile a 2.xx rom without IPL & SPL. When I used the update utility to falsh the Wizard, the utility said something like: Error, this update utility is not for your device. etc.
I think I need to used your modified update utility , can you send it to me?
Also my other question is, when I use nb2nbf , what should I put in the model id for my German Wizard?
You advice can help me & many others to solve our headache in upgrading a G4 Rom! Cheers!
phone_one said:
Hi risidoro,
I am trying upgrade my O2 German Wizrad G4 version into WWE, I followed your instruction & has used nb2nbf to compile a 2.xx rom without IPL & SPL. When I used the update utility to falsh the Wizard, the utility said something like: Error, this update utility is not for your device. etc.
I think I need to used your modified update utility , can you send it to me?
Also my other question is, when I use nb2nbf , what should I put in the model id for my German Wizard?
You advice can help me & many others to solve our headache in upgrading a G4 Rom! Cheers!
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The modified RUU (ROM Update Utility) is attached.
For ModelID you can use both WIZARD or Prodigy (i used the former).
risidoro said:
Since you have a G4 boot chip (the tailing .001 in IPL and SPL tells that) you CANNOT downgrade your ROM to 1.x version.
DO NOT TRY INSTALLING A 1.X ROM: YOU'LL BRICK YOUR PPC!!! DO NOT FOLLOW FARIA's PROCEDURE TO CID UNLOCK 2.X PHONES: IT WON'T WORK IN YOUR CASE ('cos you've got a G4 boot chip).
This means that you will NOT be able to CID/SIM unlock your phone with lokiwiz 0.2b (however you can still use lokiwiz 0.3a to SIM unlock it, but no CID unlock).
But don't despair, you CAN still change your phone language and install whatever 2.x rom you like. The procedure to follow, however, is a bit different: you cannot simply download a rom you like and install it, you'll need to hack it a little first, but the results will be the same!
Basically, all you have to do is get the ROM you like (only 2.xx ROM!!!) and remove from it the IPL/SPL part. Then, you have to flash this 'hacked' rom using a slightly modified ROM Upgrade Utility (i can provide it to you if you want). With this method you're not going to replace the IPL/SPL (bootloader) of your phone so you don't need to CID unlock it (which, at the time i'm writing, is impossible).
To remove IPL/SPL from your ROM you have to extract the file nk.nbf from the ROM and get its content with typho5 tool (search this forum to have more info). Then you have to reassemble a new nk.nbf using nb2nbf. The new nk.nbf, of course, must NOT contain the IPL/SPL parts.
If you prefer, you can tell me what ROM are you interested in and i'll do the dirty work for you. Just let me know.
Bye
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sorry to hijack your thread,
just wanted to ask a short question.
if my info is as below:
US T-mobile MDA Vario
IPL 1.03
SPL 1.06
GSM 01.12.10
OS 1.3.13.5
ROM version: 1.3.13.5 ENU
ROM date: 9/29/05
Radio version: 01.12.10
Protocol version: 4.0.13.23
ExtROM: 1.3.13.116
OS 5.1.70(build 14406.1.1.1)
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does this mean that its on a G3 chip and that i can use lokiwiz03a to CID unlock it and upload any 2.x ROM as i please? and downgrade the ROMs too?
@Bola: you have a 1.x ROM so you can CID unlock your phone with Lokiwiz0.2b (NOT 0.3a). Then you'll be able to install whichever ROM you like.
Bye
I've just published a tutorial that can help those with a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) CID-Locked device to install whichever 2.x ROM they like.
The tutorial is here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=56088
Bye
risidoro said:
@Bola: you have a 1.x ROM so you can CID unlock your phone with Lokiwiz0.2b (NOT 0.3a). Then you'll be able to install whichever ROM you like.
Bye
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thanks risidoro.
i'll give it a go later.
there wont be any issue downgrading the ROM later would there?
eg if i were to install:
RUU_Wizard_2211301_22113102_021911_DOP_ASIA_WWE_Ship.exe
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and later back to
RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe ?
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oh, the bootloader (IPL/SPL) doesnt get upgraded either when i upgrade, would it?
oh thank for the help risidoro.
i saw your post after i uploaded mine.
read through your tutorial and i figured that both IPL / SPL will get updated
people like you makes this site great
thanks once again.

Downgradeing HTC Wizard

Hi,
I've installed the latest AKU 3.2 Version on my Wizard.
Now i've wanted to downgrade to AKU 2.0 (with the original Loader Provided from "Vario_AKU2.0_05-2006.exe") and the tool tells me it is not possible. Is there a way to make it run?
Thanks a lot
It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..
Nobody warns ??????????????????????????
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.
mforce said:
It looks like nobody has an idea how to downgrade from SPL2.xx en that sucks! noboby warns about it when supplying new ROMS..
I have the same problem with a TMobile Vario that needs to be flashed to stock ROM\IPL\SPL..
I've found a way to do it but its for the HTC Thyfoon and might not work with the Wizard..
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There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...
Dr Puttingham said:
Gramma told me that if I don't have something nice to say to keep quiet...
Maybe if you downgrade to a 1.xx ROM first you can then go back to your AKU 2.
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Good luck.
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Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
vseehua said:
There are tons of threads on this issue already... maybe if you are hardworking enough to search for it yourself, you won't even have that problem at all... warnings are placed everywhere... please read before you even proceed to upgrade your rom...
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I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..
Possible solution
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).
mforce said:
Already tried that, not working.. btw wise gramma
I've searched for hours the two solutions Boots 1.05 end Cingular 1.8 do not work but if you are so sure their is an solution ill keep searching
Ofcource I know about warnings but ive NEVER seen an warning about SPL not being able to downgrade..
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If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. I've done it my Cingular 8125 and it's 3 replacement PDA's numerous times. In addition I've downgraded at least 20 phones to 1.05 so's I could unlock and then upgrade. And then done it again. If you follow faria's instructions that is.... Now I HAVE had to flash the 1.05 twice to get the SPL down to 1.05. Humor us huh?
Note: I realize that Faria says that it doesn't work above 2.21 but I have performed this procedure on at least a dozen "out of the box" Cingular 2.25's. Downgrade to 1.05. Extract lokiwiz to the root of your C drive. Copy enablerapi.cab to your device (I know that you've unlocked your device, just indulge me please ) Execute enablerapi.cab from your PDA. get to a Dos prompt and run lokiwiz from the C prompt. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!
Dr Puttingham said:
If you have a G3 device you can downgrade your IPL/SPL. Unlock CID and SIM. It WILL reboot each time. If your IPL / SPL still show a 2.x reflash again with the 1.05.
If you do this I'll just about guarantee that it'll work
Good Luck!
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Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..
Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan
A2Z said:
Your garantee worked great fabulous work ! I downgraded my Dutch MDA Vario from official Tmobile Rom RUU_Prodigy_2210205_22102108_021911_TMO_NL_DUT_Ship.exe with 2.21 IPL.SPL to 1.05. Indeed needed to run WWE flashrom - did the Lockwiz2b CID unlock and ran the Flashrom WWE again and voila IPL/SPL 1.01 - OS 1.5.4.2 -GSM 1.12.10.0 - Thanks a lot!!
I owe you one ..
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Great! it works
stefan1975 said:
Hi,
i want to downgrade my 2.21 G3 Vario as well which is NLD and locked. I believe that I know all the steps neccesary and already downed the QTEK custom ROM. Can I just execute this ROM and have it install the older version on my Vario, run lokiwiz02b and upgrade again?
One part I didn't find on the forum was the need to run "WWE flashrom" again to downgrade to 1.05
What is this WWE flashrom, is it a seperate tool besides the Custom rom and if yes where do I get it?
thanks,
stefan
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This one.. (flash it 2 times!)
ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe
Seppl82 said:
A German mate told me that there is a solution
Try to load the Qtec Custom Rom from ...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard_Upgrades
.. and Flash it to your Wizard. After that is should be possible to load older Roms without any problems.
I did not have tested it... (Please tell me if its works or not).
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Does NOT work, thnx anyway
I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)
Downgrading/Upgrading
Dr P. or anyone else,
I've seen "somewhere on this board" a description of how to flash "any rom" without having to downgrade to 1.05, it stated to change the .exe file to a .rar and then change the ruu file to one that is not looking for the current phone status. I've tried that and have not had success in doing so. IF there is infact a way to do this, could someone please provide a blow by blow scenario to accomplish it?
Thanks,
vpu2
HighVoltage said:
I have the same problem.
But i allready downgaded with the Custom version.
When i restart i can see. it is IPL 1.01 and SPL 2.26
Is it possilble olso downgrade the SPL (i do not exactrly know what it is)
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Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....
Dr Puttingham said:
Bet you didn't run the 1.05 a second time as I stated before. I'm actually doing a brand new Cingular G3 2.25 as we speak. I downgraded to 1.05, SPL still says 2.25. Copied enablerapi to the device and executed it from the device. Extracted lokiwiz to the root of my E drive (on my new thinkpad that I'm setting up at the same time...) It rebooted twice as it's susposed to when you unlock the CID and the SIM. Ran the downgrade a second time and both IPL and SPL are 1.01, the GSM is 1.12.10.0 and the OS is 1.5.4.2.... every freak'n time I do this, probably close to two dozen Cingular 8125's. If it don't work for you I just don't know what more to tell ya....
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Hi Guys,
I tried everything but it doesn't help das anyone had another option?
Thanks
could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.
Dr Puttingham said:
could you be any vaguer? "tried everything" is so informative. report exactly the steps you've tried please.
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I tried everything what everybody said in this post.
Mr hokkie, please humble me and document exactly what device you own and your exact IPL/SPL/OS/GSM versions. Beacuase I just don't think that you've got in in ya to be my first failure. Show me what you got
I own a Dutch MDA Vario from T-mobile, which has a T-mobile SIM-lock. I want to remove the SIM-lock, so I tried http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=249474&page=1. Unfortunately it returned an error, it appears I have a 2.21 ROM, so I want to downgrade the rom, which brought me to this thread.
I've downloaded the CUSTOM_RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe, and ran it. I get the first few screens (the caution-screen, the prepare-screen, the Update screen, the verify screen and the last screen). After that I get the screen where a percentage bar should start moving. My phone-screen is now divided in about four horizontal parts.
The first one is red-fading to black, and it reads RUU on the top-right, and the line below it reads IPL 2.21.0001. The last line in this part reads SPL 2.21.0001.
The second part is similar to the first, but it is green, without any text. The third part is similar to the green one, except it's blue.
The last part is smaller than the previous parts, it's plain white (about two lines high) and reads USB.
On my PC I get a screen telling me:
ERROR[300]: INVALID UPDATE TOOL
This Udate Uility cannot be used for your PDA Phone. Please get newer Update Utillity.
What am I doing wrong here? (BTW: I'm a computer-expert and a phone-noob)
By the way, the verify screen reads:
From:
Model ID: WIZARD
Image Version: 1.2.0.0
Language: ENGLISH
To:
Model ID: Prodigy
Image version:
Language: WWE

2.25.11.1

ok just got my wizard back from HTC who repaired the screen for 180 dollars.
Instead of a "repair" they sent me a whole new cingular 8125. Now my rom says 2.25.11.1
Is this g3 or g4.. and which rom should I downgrade to before cid unlock
Congrats, you have a new baby ?? wizard?
ctheodores said:
ok just got my wizard back from HTC who repaired the screen for 180 dollars.
Instead of a "repair" they sent me a whole new cingular 8125. Now my rom says 2.25.11.1
Is this g3 or g4.. and which rom should I downgrade to before cid unlock
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Looks like a G4 What is the IPL/SPL when you boot?
hmmm
its 2.25. I think the rom they put on there is just a new rom from htc maybe. Instead of a repair of a broken screen they sent a whole new 8125 so it must be a g3 huh?
ctheodores said:
its 2.25. I think the rom they put on there is just a new rom from htc maybe. Instead of a repair of a broken screen they sent a whole new 8125 so it must be a g3 huh?
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If the IPL/SPL is only 2.25 then it is a G3. If it was IPL/SPL 2.25.0001 then it would be a G4
ok i have another question you might be able to help me with. I am trying to cid unlock, downloaded the button rom but the spl is stuck at 2.25 and i have flashed about 10 times now, it wont go down, is there any other rom which i could use to downgrade then cid unlock
ctheodores said:
ok i have another question you might be able to help me with. I am trying to cid unlock, downloaded the button rom but the spl is stuck at 2.25 and i have flashed about 10 times now, it wont go down, is there any other rom which i could use to downgrade then cid unlock
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Try this rom to downgrade your SPL Xda_MiniS_LaunchROM_v154102
It should work and then you can continue with the CID unlock.
yea thanks thats acutally what i am doing right now I hope it works on 1st time and i dont have to do it 9 times
ok I have a question about this rom. do i put the RUU and ENTERBOOTLOADER onto the phone. how about the nbf file.
ctheodores said:
ok I have a question about this rom. do i put the RUU and ENTERBOOTLOADER onto the phone. how about the nbf file.
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no you want to extract the zip/rar file to its own folder and then just run the RUU.exe file. It will do everything else for you.
Once you flash it, update me with your results.
wow ok this is really weird. i run the update utility which looks just like the button rom, and it has the same spl and everything! I have no clue what to do I cant get the spl from 2.25
ctheodores said:
wow ok this is really weird. i run the update utility which looks just like the button rom, and it has the same spl and everything! I have no clue what to do I cant get the spl from 2.25
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Hmm... Give this a try.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=265928
Its the newest version of lokiwiz that should work on a 2.xx SPL and you shouldn't have to downgrade.
Once you run lokiwiz, then use Wizard Service tools to read the CID and make sure it is unlocked.
first im gonna try to dload that rom you just gave me again,. but do u think the loiki will work with ipl-1.05 and spl 2.25
ctheodores said:
first im gonna try to dload that rom you just gave me again,. but do u think the loiki will work with ipl-1.05 and spl 2.25
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WAIT! Your IPL was changed to 1.05? If it is, your ready to use lokiwiz. The SPL does not change with that rom because the rom isn't CID unlocked yet. LOL.
Go ahead and run lokiwiz and then use the wizard service tool from my last post to read the CID and make sure it is CID unlocked.
Update me with your results and I will help you with the whole process. I've been through it before so I know what needs to be done.
ipl-1.05
spl-2.25
i dont get why both those roms are 1.05
are you sure the spl is not supposed to be changed because ive had the WST and it tells me to downgrade SPL to CID unlock.
lokiwiz 0.3 a says WITHOUT cid unlock
Well what I am trying to do is upgrade to a WM6 Rom and you have to have a spl of 1.x to do this am I correct? and also it needs to be CID unlocked, which lokiwiz 0.3a does not do... am i stuck or what
ctheodores said:
ipl-1.05
spl-2.25
i dont get why both those roms are 1.05
are you sure the spl is not supposed to be changed because ive had the WST and it tells me to downgrade SPL to CID unlock.
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Ok I see that you are confused.(No big deal TRUST ME...) I previously had a G4 and always used shelltools to flash roms and had no Idea what I was doing when I dove into this CID unlocking thing but here is step by step what you need to do.
1. Download button rom and flash to device and you will see IPL 1.05 and SPL of 2.25
2. Connect to device but do not sync. Just cancel when connecting and connect as guest.
3. Run Lokiwiz and first press U. This will SIM unlock your device and your device will soft-reset itself.
4. Repeat steps 2 and 3 only now press C instead of U. Lokiwiz will now CID unlock your device and it will soft-reset itself.
5. This time when activesync tries to connect to your device, syncronize it with your PC.
6. Install and run WST and and under CID options, click read CID. It will tell you in plain english if your device is still locked or CID unlocked.
7. If it tells you your device is CID unlocked, proceed to step 8, if not repeat steps 1-6.
8. If your device was successfully CID unlocked, download T-Mobile Official WM5 rom and flash it to your device. You will now have a strong 2.26 IPL/SPL.
9. Allow customization to finish and then the device will soft-reset itself.
10. Now flash the 3.08 IPL/SPL to your device for faster boot time.
Now your finished. Your device is now CID unlocked and has a strong IPL/SPL as a base to flash any WM6 rom you please.
Once you have done this, post results here so if it did not work, I can try to help you figure out what went wrong.
ctheodores said:
Well what I am trying to do is upgrade to a WM6 Rom and you have to have a spl of 1.x to do this am I correct? and also it needs to be CID unlocked, which lokiwiz 0.3a does not do... am i stuck or what
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Try using this version of lokiwiz instead. lokiwiz - HTC Wizard Unlocker UPDATE Version 0.2b
ok i get every single step on here except..
version 0.3a does not give me any unlock options in the DOS... i am going to try 0.2b right now

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