Hi,
I wonder if anyone knows how to change the registry to have "Letter recognizer" instead "Keyboard" after a sofreset by default in the input panel.
Many thanks
Bye
If I remember correctly there's a utility called EasyTweak from www.10gsoft.com that will do this - a utility that I heartily recommend
Many thanks,
I will try this afternoon
Bye
Hi again,
All OK (a good software)
Bye
OK guys,
here is the final solution for the issue. By default, Voice Commander 1.6 built-in WM6 ROMs is unable to be activated from Bluetooth headset. The most common workaround here was reinstalling VC over the default one. That costs you couple megs of storage wasted, older/uglier icon in Settings, and slower device overall. No need to do it anymore! Here is a simple registry hack that enables bluetooth activation of VC.
Don't forget to soft-reset after installing.
!! Yoz !!
Brilliant !!
Great job! I will try it the next time I flash my rom again!
Great Find
Thank you! Works like a charm...
just out of curiosity, did you figure this out yourself or find it. if the former then how and if the latter where?
I have WM6 on the 8125, with the 2.19 radio, and this isn't working for me. It keeps saying that there was an error with voice command and that I should restart it. I reset my phone a couple times to make sure that it worked, but it isn't. How do you uninstall the cab? Or will reinstalling vc 1.6 take care of it?
Found this out by myself by exploring the VC 1.6 CAB with WinCE CAB Manager and comparing the registry values it adds to the system after installation with the existing ones. I figured out before that simple replacement of all built-in VC's files with the files of retail VC doesnt show any result. So, I found the difference here:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway]
"BTAGExtModule"="vcbthag.dll"
- that's the key from installation CAB. The default value of the BTAGExtModule key is different. I tried to change it appropriately, soft-reseted - and voila!
The CAB posted here just changes the registry key mentioned above. You can get the same result by editing your registry manually.
So far I did not notice any side effects of this reg hack. If you can not install this CAB, there is probably something to do with allowing installation of the unsigned CABs on your device. Anyway, you can edit your registry by hand.
You are my new best friend. I was sure this was possible but thought I was going to have to spend a whole day working it out. Downloaded your cab and 2 minutes later my Plantronics 590a headphones work flawlessly.
Thanks again for saving me a lot of time and a few grey hairs!
-rob
aperley said:
OK guys,
here is the final solution for the issue. By default, Voice Commander 1.6 built-in WM6 ROMs is unable to be activated from Bluetooth headset. The most common workaround here was reinstalling VC over the default one. That costs you couple megs of storage wasted, older/uglier icon in Settings, and slower device overall. No need to do it anymore! Here is a simple registry hack that enables bluetooth activation of VC.
Don't forget to soft-reset after installing.
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Great job........it worked for me with no mishaps........Thanks!!
thx
confirm working on Parrot bluetooth carkit too.
@aperley - Respect, my friend.
Thanks much!
Hi Everyone,
I have a nice shiny orange spv m700. Unfortuantly, in Orange's wisdom they supply a ROM which does not have any form of thumb based text entry.
In order not to void my warranty I am not going to flash the ROM. Especially as I have tomtom 6 working perfectly and removed the orange garbage from the today screen.
However I am going mad withouth t9 text entry! I have downloaded and installed phonepad english, phonepad international, tengothumb and none of them work! They install fine but not come up when you select them. Ive tried setting them to default text entry but to no avail. I have installed them on the device not the memory card and there is lots of memory spare.
Can someone please help me has anyone found the trick? I have 7 days to return the phone but until i try phonepad i dont know whether i want to keep it (never used a phone withouth keyboard before).
Thanks in advance
Warny
me too
i have been asking about this too the last day or so. the dopod rom has it built in but i am worried that once i have put the dopod rom on then i cant go back to the orange one if i dont want to keep the phone.
No one seems to be replying about dumping my original orange rom so at the mo we are a bit stuffed.
warnysouth said:
Hi Everyone,
I have a nice shiny orange spv m700. Unfortuantly, in Orange's wisdom they supply a ROM which does not have any form of thumb based text entry.
In order not to void my warranty I am not going to flash the ROM. Especially as I have tomtom 6 working perfectly and removed the orange garbage from the today screen.
However I am going mad withouth t9 text entry! I have downloaded and installed phonepad english, phonepad international, tengothumb and none of them work! They install fine but not come up when you select them. Ive tried setting them to default text entry but to no avail. I have installed them on the device not the memory card and there is lots of memory spare.
Can someone please help me has anyone found the trick? I have 7 days to return the phone but until i try phonepad i dont know whether i want to keep it (never used a phone withouth keyboard before).
Thanks in advance
Warny
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Try install the attached cab, then goto program>G4 SIP Startup select phonepad as default SIP, then softreset. However TengoThumb would not work for Trinity for some reason.
sunlip said:
Try install the attached cab, then goto program>G4 SIP Startup select phonepad as default SIP, then softreset. However TengoThumb would not work for Trinity for some reason.
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It will work, u just need some hack
sunlip said:
Try install the attached cab, then goto program>G4 SIP Startup select phonepad as default SIP, then softreset. However TengoThumb would not work for Trinity for some reason.
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Hi,
Great thank do I install this before or after phonepad?
Thanks
W
sunlip said:
Try install the attached cab, then goto program>G4 SIP Startup select phonepad as default SIP, then softreset. However TengoThumb would not work for Trinity for some reason.
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Hi, it doesnt work for me. I install the cab you supplied on the device, did the setup and soft reset, still does the same thing (select phonepad in list and nothing happens)
any more ideas?
Thanks
W
warnysouth said:
Hi,
Great thank do I install this before or after phonepad?
Thanks
W
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Install phonepad, then G4 SIP tweak, then select phonepad as startup SIP in G4 SIP Tweak, soft-reset. It works for me.
warnysouth said:
Hi, it doesnt work for me. I install the cab you supplied on the device, did the setup and soft reset, still does the same thing (select phonepad in list and nothing happens)
any more ideas?
Thanks
W
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WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOHOOO PHONEPAD UP ON THE ORANGE! uninstall phonepad, install G4 tweak, install phonepad international, and bobs your uncle! THANK YOU VERY VERY VERY MUCH
hurray
I had to try it a few times on mine and piss about with it but it is now working.
Thank god for that. We got there in the end.
Thanks guys.
rjefferis said:
hurray
I had to try it a few times on mine and piss about with it but it is now working.
Thank god for that. We got there in the end.
Thanks guys.
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Yeah I just did a fresh install of everthing and now it doesnt work again. Hmm it seems its not repeatable. yet.
Please can someone post links to the relevant files needed to do the above. Actually I see the G4 link above so just phonepad if poss.
Thanks
rjefferis said:
hurray
I had to try it a few times on mine and piss about with it but it is now working.
Thank god for that. We got there in the end.
Thanks guys.
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How did you get it to work?
Cheers the G4 does the trick
thank you for the solution!! worked first time for me, installed the tweak then phone pad english and soft resetted. so glad to have phonepad back!
OK I got the G4 Sip program installed but the phonepad never works - just pops up the standard keyboard. I have a Orange M700 - any suggestions? Thanks
Uninstall both then install sip change, reinstall phone pad select phone pad as default and it should work...
Or if all else fails purchase SK tools as this always works and has many useful extra features.
Thanks for all the useful info
I got mine working on my SPV M700 by:
1) Uninstall SIP Change & Phone Pad & G4 SIP Tweak (If you have any of them installed already)
2) Copy G4 SIP Tweak CAB to PPC and install
3) Soft Reset
4) Copy Phone Pad CAB to PPC and install
5) Soft Reset
6) Copy SIP Change CAB to PPC and install
7) Soft Reset
8) Start SIP Change (From Start Menu - Programs) and select Phone Pad and make sure delay is set to 10
9) Soft Reset
This is the only way I have managed to get mine working, and I dare not reset the device again incase it fails lol
Yet another hapless convert to smartphone
tattoo_gaz said:
Thanks for all the useful info
I got mine working on my SPV M700 by:
1) Uninstall SIP Change & Phone Pad & G4 SIP Tweak (If you have any of them installed already)
2) Copy G4 SIP Tweak CAB to PPC and install
3) Soft Reset
4) Copy Phone Pad CAB to PPC and install
5) Soft Reset
6) Copy SIP Change CAB to PPC and install
7) Soft Reset
8) Start SIP Change (From Start Menu - Programs) and select Phone Pad and make sure delay is set to 10
9) Soft Reset
This is the only way I have managed to get mine working, and I dare not reset the device again incase it fails lol
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Hi, hope this thread isn't dead just yet...as a newbie here and a recent convert to the world of the touch screen... I've had a good search around the web for a thumb entry system (have to admit thought is was a standard feature on smartphones cos I'd seen it working on an O2 XDAmini. So was more than a little dissappointed to find it wasn't on the M700 (after my 7 day's were up).
I've tried installing tengo thumb with the same limited success as a previous contributor, lots of resets I assume a soft reset is button on the bottom you prod with the stylus?
I've tried various combinations of loading G4 SIP Tweak, and Phone Pad cab, and have the 'Phone Pad appears in list but doesn't do anything' problem...
I noticed in your post you mentioned uninstalling 'SIP Change' that's some I've not downloaded separately, got the G4 SIP tweak and the phone pad.
Also there appears to be two places (3 including the input icon in settings) where you can select Phone Pad there's 'G4 SIP Hide' in the sytem menu where it say's don't choose the wrong SIP here as its likely to **** everything up. And then there's the 'G4 Sip Startup changer' in my programs directory. Are either of these the 'G4 SIP Tweak' utility.
So i'll give it another go but wondered if I've
1. got the right cab's, tweaks and whistles
2. got my SIP application confused
3. just plain confused
Any help greating appreciated.
Also must be trying too hard with the stylus as I'm on no. 2 already!
Thanks for listening
Awesome, this has been plaguing me for a long time, whatever i did i could not get any keyboard except the standard ones to stick and be useable, fine with a stylus, no good for one handed operation.
Now it all works and like the rest its a case of remove anything resembling SIP management and alternate SIPs and then install G4 Tweak and then Phone Pad, select PhonePad in the G4 interface and soft reset. Bingo a working phone pad.
Phone Pad
inanimateman said:
Hi, hope this thread isn't dead just yet...as a newbie here and a recent convert to the world of the touch screen... I've had a good search around the web for a thumb entry system (have to admit thought is was a standard feature on smartphones cos I'd seen it working on an O2 XDAmini. So was more than a little dissappointed to find it wasn't on the M700 (after my 7 day's were up).
I've tried installing tengo thumb with the same limited success as a previous contributor, lots of resets I assume a soft reset is button on the bottom you prod with the stylus?
I've tried various combinations of loading G4 SIP Tweak, and Phone Pad cab, and have the 'Phone Pad appears in list but doesn't do anything' problem...
I noticed in your post you mentioned uninstalling 'SIP Change' that's some I've not downloaded separately, got the G4 SIP tweak and the phone pad.
Also there appears to be two places (3 including the input icon in settings) where you can select Phone Pad there's 'G4 SIP Hide' in the sytem menu where it say's don't choose the wrong SIP here as its likely to **** everything up. And then there's the 'G4 Sip Startup changer' in my programs directory. Are either of these the 'G4 SIP Tweak' utility.
So i'll give it another go but wondered if I've
1. got the right cab's, tweaks and whistles
2. got my SIP application confused
3. just plain confused
Any help greating appreciated.
Also must be trying too hard with the stylus as I'm on no. 2 already!
Thanks for listening
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I was in a similar position to you. I managed to get mine working eventually - I found that I didn't need Sip Change. I just installed SIP Tweak, then Phone Pad. I think perhaps the key thing is to soft reset immediately after selecting Phone Pad on Tweak. Once I'd done that it finally worked, and has continued to work even after when I've shut down normally.
Anyone know how to switch the keyboard configuration? This is very much the same problem as many TyTN users experienced when installing an operator ROM: my keyboard has symbols in the wrong place (e.g. ! and @ are reversed - I have an @ over the Q and a ! over the W).
The instructions posted in the Hermes wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Problems) and in various threads (like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283881) don't work, as the registry key ([HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty]) doesn't exist. Maybe this is because it was written to help Cingular 8525 customers install HTC ROMs, which is the opposite thing I want to do. In fact I can't find the string "qwerty" in the registry at all. Creating the OEM\Qwerty key and populating the suggested value doesn't work.
Anyway if someone knows how to get the HTC symbol mapping back please let me know. Alternatively if anyone has the release version of the HTC Kaiser ROM, that would probably do the trick for me too.
M
I assume you've already tried this ROM?
Here is the cab fix for the 8525 keyboard being messed up. I'm attaching it below.. but I don't know if it just uses the same registry fix.
If the above Image isn't the latest release for the kaiser I wouldn't worry too much as people are starting to get the HTC RTM kaiser right now and I'm sure the official rom will be posted soon.
I've tried 'em all. Because they're AT&T ROMs they all have the AT&T Mappping. Why do carriers have to change the mappings of their keyboards at all?
thanks anyway.
I'm sure you've already found this solution...but was trying to find it myself and had to deduce it from reading how the forum people were able to do the reverse (assign AT&T layout to non-AT&T ROM).
Try this:
delete the registry key HKLM/HARDWARE/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/CWSLayout
Note that this works for correcting the keyboard layout problem when flashing a Rogers ROM on the HTC-branded kaiser
Rumball said:
I'm sure you've already found this solution...but was trying to find it myself and had to deduce it from reading how the forum people were able to do the reverse (assign AT&T layout to non-AT&T ROM).
Try this:
delete the registry key HKLM/HARDWARE/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/CWSLayout
Note that this works for correcting the keyboard layout problem when flashing a Rogers ROM on the HTC-branded kaiser
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I think you ment THIS post
Still Nada here for this guy.
Tried,
Keyboard Fix WMXL 8525.cab
WM VI 8525 Keyboard Patch.CAB
Ive looked in my registry for the CWSLayout
Tried the reg edit for the qwerty key and the suggested edits were the values I already have.
Nada...
Ive got a Rogers Tytn that Ive upgraded using a ATT 8525rom
everything works great, other than the 8 symbol keys.
Any more suggestions?
theMopie
Rumball said:
I'm sure you've already found this solution...but was trying to find it myself and had to deduce it from reading how the forum people were able to do the reverse (assign AT&T layout to non-AT&T ROM).
Try this:
delete the registry key HKLM/HARDWARE/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/CWSLayout
Note that this works for correcting the keyboard layout problem when flashing a Rogers ROM on the HTC-branded kaiser
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mlekas said:
Anyone know how to switch the keyboard configuration? This is very much the same problem as many TyTN users experienced when installing an operator ROM: my keyboard has symbols in the wrong place (e.g. ! and @ are reversed - I have an @ over the Q and a ! over the W).
The instructions posted in the Hermes wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Problems) and in various threads (like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=283881) don't work, as the registry key ([HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\OEM\Qwerty]) doesn't exist. Maybe this is because it was written to help Cingular 8525 customers install HTC ROMs, which is the opposite thing I want to do. In fact I can't find the string "qwerty" in the registry at all. Creating the OEM\Qwerty key and populating the suggested value doesn't work.
Anyway if someone knows how to get the HTC symbol mapping back please let me know. Alternatively if anyone has the release version of the HTC Kaiser ROM, that would probably do the trick for me too.
M
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I got the AT&T Tilt and i got the same problem. I tried all the suggestions here but all failed.
delete the registry key HKLM/HARDWARE/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/CWSLayout => There is not that key in the registry of my phone
Anyone can tell me how to fix it?
Thanks!
imbbn said:
I got the AT&T Tilt and i got the same problem. I tried all the suggestions here but all failed.
delete the registry key HKLM/HARDWARE/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/CWSLayout => There is not that key in the registry of my phone
Anyone can tell me how to fix it?
Thanks!
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Read the Kaiser Wiki -> Hacks and Tweaks -> Software section.
I have dragon iv iolite installed. I have tried with at least 5 different versions of transcriber cab, the option shows in the list but doesn't work. When i select it the "keyboard" option does not change. I get no transcriber.
I have spent several hours looking for a solution.
Any help please?
Look at my post here
and see if that works for you
good luck!
yes i tried that. Didn't work.
....
did you try that cab file?
yes, i did....