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I've read in a few forums around different sites that many people simply soft reset their phone when the phone informs them that its going to begin the extended rom update (as apart of the ROM update that includes OS and radio)...
So my question is why are so many people on here saying that they want to update their rom but keep their EXT rom so they have GPRS, MMS and other settings kept consistent?
eg. I have a US T-Mobile MDA coming in a few days, I want the I-mate K-Jam rom on there but I want to keep T-Mobile's EXT. Rom with it's settings and what not, so I am simply going to update the rom and cut it off before it starts the extended rom, does anyone know of any problems that may occured, because according to what I've read there haven't been any.
Seems much more practical than installing the ENTIRE K-Jam Rom (OS, radio, extended) and then having to double back and re-install your original extended rom.... LET ME KNOW IF ANYONE'S TRIED IT!
This is a bad idea. First of all, if you pull the device from the cradle in the middle of the update, I can't guarentee that you'll be able to get it out of bootloader mode and back to working without some major effort. If you're a newbie, that may not be something you want to do. There's also no guarentee that pulling the device in the middle of the update won't turn it into a brick, either.
I know you want the K-JAM Extended ROM. I would just wait until an Extended ROM unlocker is released and then customize it the way you want. I've been doing this stuff for about 10 years, and without the right tools, you're taking a huge, unnecessary risk.
But that's just my 2 cents...
Well I didn't mean pull it off the cable, I just meant soft reset when it prompts 'beginning customization in 3..2...1..'
But thanks for your advice, I haven't done anything yet anyways, phone's still in the mail
You should try my custom T-Mobile USA 2.17 rom. Posted here in the forum.
you are still able to connect with your t-mobile gprs, mms even you ve updated to kjam's or other kinds of firmware, all you need to do is to get the setting from t-mobile's website.
you are still able to connect with your t-mobile gprs, mms even you ve updated to kjam's or other kinds of firmware, all you need to do is to get the setting from t-mobile's website.
Im wondering i was reading this this post on the cingular a2dp aku2.3 test rom and i have that flashed but as soon as the ext rom loaded and started the customizations i reseted to cancel them. i then read that faria had made a ext rom that had no cingular settings in them so i loaded this. this is what he wrote.
his is a proper extended-rom .nbf is not a folder containing the files
To install unzip the folder and run the ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe
You will not lose any setting that you have in your rom. It simply updates the extended-rom.
when’d you decide to hard reset you device again the extended rom will load automatically as in the official rom , there it is .no Cingular stuff .
regards;
faria
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but i read a hard reset is when you do clear storage and its supposed to loose all your settings. hows that supposed to work then. am i reading wrong or doing something wrong
The Hard Reset reset state will depend on the ROM you have flashed on your phone. Hard resetting will force the extended rom customisations to be loaded up (unless you skip them).
Faria may have made (I've no experience with the particular files) a ROM "update" that just updates the extended rom with the no cingular settings stuff - everything else stays the same after his "upgrade". Then, hard resetting will force the system to install from his custom extended rom rather then the original ROM's extended rom.
Hope that's correct and makes sense!
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ok but the thing is how do i do it. I mean the way i read in the manual and the way i read on other forums wipes out your wholedisk. or am i mistaken.
gizm0luvsu said:
ok but the thing is how do i do it. I mean the way i read in the manual and the way i read on other forums wipes out your wholedisk. or am i mistaken.
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A few of us have made Update Roms which don't have the OS portion in them. If you don't flash the OS then your settings are not lost.
Faria's Extended ROm Only Flash is a perfect example of one of these updaters.
so if i flash the ext rom then go to the clear storage and do it and answer yes to it. and do that hard reset my stuff wont be lost even though it says it wipes the storage
gizm0luvsu said:
so if i flash the ext rom then go to the clear storage and do it and answer yes to it. and do that hard reset my stuff wont be lost even though it says it wipes the storage
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You will always lose your settings etc on a Hard Reset!
You won't lose any settings if you flash the Extended Rom or Radio Rom.
grrrrrrr i dont think you are understanding me.
ok i flashed the rom complete os. Then i reseted before the cingular settings went into effect. then i flashed with the faria extended rom. I didnt do a hard reset so the rom customize didnt go into effect. I set everything up like i normally use. should i even do a hard reset now . or should i just leave it like it is.
second. If i flash the cingular rom again. cancel the cingular customizations. then install the ext rom. then do a hard reset would i have to reflash the rom or would it leave the blank rom on there
gizm0luvsu said:
ok i flashed the rom complete os. Then i reseted before the cingular settings went into effect. then i flashed with the faria extended rom. I didnt do a hard reset so the rom customize didnt go into effect. I set everything up like i normally use. should i even do a hard reset now . or should i just leave it like it is.
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If you want the customization from the Faria Extended Rom then you have to do 1 of two things:
1. Hard Reset and let the customizations run..
2. Manually run the customizations either by unlocking the Ext Rom so you can do it or using Total Commander.
#1 loses your current settings, #2 does not.
gizm0luvsu said:
second. If i flash the cingular rom again. cancel the cingular customizations. then install the ext rom. then do a hard reset would i have to reflash the rom or would it leave the blank rom on there
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If your goal is to have fresh device with the Cingular Rom and Faria Custom Extended Rom then your best course of action is:
1. Flash the Cingular Rom.
2. When your device resets itself, enter Bootloader (holding Camera button).
3. Flash Faria Extended Rom.
4. Hard Reset Device and do initial set-up allowing customizations to run.
Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?
Hi! I need some help to put back the original software on my X1. Last week i put a cooked ROM and made and Hard SPL on my X1 and now i want to turn back to the original software, can anyone help me please? Thanks!
I am also planning to upgrade my ROM.. so can pls anyone tell me If i upgrade to a new ROM.. how can I come bak to the factory default...
flashing is flashing
get the rom you want flash it
be it a newer or org rom you flash
but to go back you need to flash back there is no shadow org rom after you flash you can go back to you need to flash back to the org rom like you did when you changed to the rom you are using
Like Wise
I flashed my x1 with the energy rom. i decided to back to original fw, that failed. X1 wouldnt load it at all. so i thought to go back to energy rom. When i attempted to flash it back to energy but i get in bootloader it finds the image goes to a grey screen and says "loading......" and wont budge from this.
Any help please?
Or steer me in the right direction?...
P.S. ive tried hard reset
Hello everyone and sorry for starting a new thread with so many threads already about installing custom ROMs. So sorry again....
First of all I want to say that I have installed Saturday my first custom ROM.
1. I installed HardSPL
2. I installed ROM (I got an error first time because my usb got diconnected - tricolour boot screen and an error code - could not see it; second time everything worked fine and I have now a new great looking ROM
3. I did not installed Radio.
1st question: Do I have to install Radio everytime I install a new ROM or is it ok if I keep my old Radio? - the phone works just fine.
Second question: Do I have to HardSPL everytime I install a new ROM?
Please be kind and reply to my questions even if it must have been already posted in some thread.
rarely can i answer a question but yours are easy LOL
You don't need to do your radio because the radio you have is untouched by roms.
Likewise if you do a radio it wont change your rom.
Radio's probably will not make much diffrence.
Once you have Hard spl it is done.
You can then flash as many roms as you want , but Hard Spl is just once
No and No.
Thank you guys.
The radio is stored on a different part of the memory then the ROM, so it doesn't get replaced when you flash a ROM (unless the ROM specifically includes it, like the new "official leaked" ATT ROM). And custom ROMs will never include the radio, that I know of.
A newer radio version MAY get you better battery life or GPS reception. But it can be very specific to your geographic location. It your choice whether to update your radio or not, its certainly not required. If you want, you are free to experiment, as you can always go back to the old radio if the new one doesn't work out. The process for flashing a new radio is essentially the same as flashing a ROM, except the actual process if done very fast.
As already mentioned, you only need to HardSPL once. The only way phone will become SPL locked back to factory condition is if you specifically do so using the provided relocker program on the SPL thread (for instance, to return the phone for warranty repair).