Is there a good place in Taipei to find HTC phones - particularly the Kaiser at this point at a reasonable price?
I'll be there on business in a couple of months - and it'd be cool to come back with a new phone....
TIA,
Richard
I share the same question but would add to it - is it possible to find there English ROM? Does the keyboard also contains Chinese characters? Is there a place that sells the international version?
No one sells it YET
There are many release dates circulating, but they are all guesses, They people who do know can't tell us).
Once you can buy it, you should be able to get an English ROM. If my experience of buying phones in Dubai is anything to go by, they stocked Arabic and Western phones, I'd suspect you won't have a problem.
Gordon
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There are many release dates circulating, but they are all guesses, They people who do know can't tell us).
Once you can buy it, you should be able to get an English ROM. If my experience of buying phones in Dubai is anything to go by, they stocked Arabic and Western phones, I'd suspect you won't have a problem.
Gordon
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I am in Dubai and the keypad depends on the model you are buying. I recently got a new HP laptop and it did not have arabic keys but most other laptops had.
Taipei
rsolomon said:
Is there a good place in Taipei to find HTC phones - particularly the Kaiser at this point at a reasonable price?
I'll be there on business in a couple of months - and it'd be cool to come back with a new phone....
TIA,
Richard
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I live in Taiepi and have had no luck getting any HTC PDA's here. The reason is that up to now the only available models come with Chinese and if one flashes an upgrade with English, the warranty is shot. If that does not bother you, then just be aware that the keyboard will have both English and Chinese on it. As I have lived here for almost 31 years I have found that you can get used to keyboards with English and Chinese on it. Since I bought my first computer in 1980 I have never owned a keyboard without Chinese on it.
If you are going to be in Hong Kong too you could pick up an English model. I am not sure if the warranty would still cover you when you return home. Before, the people here told me to buy their PDAs in HK, but to be aware that if the darn thing needed repairs, it would have to be done in Hong Kong.
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I live in Taiepi and have had no luck getting any HTC PDA's here. The reason is that up to now the only available models come with Chinese and if one flashes an upgrade with English, the warranty is shot. If that does not bother you, then just be aware that the keyboard will have both English and Chinese on it. As I have lived here for almost 31 years I have found that you can get used to keyboards with English and Chinese on it. Since I bought my first computer in 1980 I have never owned a keyboard without Chinese on it.
If you are going to be in Hong Kong too you could pick up an English model. I am not sure if the warranty would still cover you when you return home. Before, the people here told me to buy their PDAs in HK, but to be aware that if the darn thing needed repairs, it would have to be done in Hong Kong.
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Seems sad that HTC is *IN* Taiwan but doesn't have a way to sell the phones there
Richard
Taipei again
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Seems sad that HTC is *IN* Taiwan but doesn't have a way to sell the phones there
Richard
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Oh, you can buy the phones here, no problem, with the Dopod brand, or CHT (Chung Hwa Telecom), and now HTC brand, but the problem is again warranty, if you change from Chinese to English. As you know, a PDA phone is not like a smart phone that you can change the language just by going through menus.
Frustrating for me that these things are made here but I have not been able to buy an English model, but see the Chinese versions sold all over the place here, including several stores within 15 minutes of walking of where I live. I exhausted Dopod's customer service email with complaints about lack of English models here............
HTC and Dopod are of course Taiwanese companies.
Chinese to English
You can flash an English ROM (which voids the warranty).. then, if some unforeseen problem occurs, flash back to a Chinese Rom to send back for repair (re-instates warranty coverage.)
I have a CHT9000 (from Taiwan) which I have flashed (too many times.. back and forth).....I don't think "they" can detect which roms have been flashed to the phone.
Not sure if Kaiser has been CID-unlocked yet.."if not" only a matter of time.
If you can't flash back to Chinese, before repair... you are obviously screwed.
Edit: didn't realize the date..
Tytn II in Taipei
EDIT: me neither :-(
The current price is around 780 USD (23.500 NTD) here in TPE, but as mentionned by another earlier, only CHT ROM.
I bought my Tytn II in HK at a cheaper price than here in TW.
Side kick is that I need to go to HK if my TW device gets broken under warranty
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Stock seems to be plentiful. BTW, what is the hardware GPS com port on the Kaiser?
Many thanks.
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Stock seems to be plentiful. BTW, what is the hardware GPS com port on the Kaiser?
Many thanks.
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COM 4 is the one Kaiser uses.
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COM 4 is the one Kaiser uses.
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Thanks very much! Guess Mapking will have to go thru the software port as no hardware GPS com port is present.....
HTC Kaiser in HK...
Where in HK can I purchase the unit? How much is the Store Selling Price??
Just wanted to ask the same question.... Would be nice to get an indication before the phone hits Singapore (hopefully only a matter of days...)
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Just wanted to ask the same question.... Would be nice to get an indication before the phone hits Singapore (hopefully only a matter of days...)
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Got mine without a contract at telco (CSL) for HKD5871. List price here is HKD6180. Most of the retail shops are selling @ HKD6080 with screen protectors and 1GB MicroSD.
FX HKD/USD 7.8
BTW, the phone can be had for around HKD3600 with a 12-month contract of at least HKD200/month.
Hope this will shed some clue for people in Singapore or elsewhere in Asia.....
below list price..
is there any shop that sells below list price?
English version
Is it avaiable in English Version???
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Is it avaiable in English Version???
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English and Chinese. Some computer shops are selling HKD100 lower with 1GB MicroSD and screen protector.... Not much discount at the moment.
GPS MAP
based on I saw on their website, it comes with Mapking, in this case, what country map is included with the unit? Does it comes with any free maps?
As per everyone's experience, which place is the cheapest place to buy PDA phones? Wanchai ? Mongkok? ShamShuiPo?
Sorry every1 i posted this in the general section , i had plenty of reads but no advice so im posting it here cos the auction im interested in ends very soon. 'just wanna buy a german kaiser and use it in the uk by flashing it with english rom and using in uk network' u don't have to read the rest just answer me this please. is it possible, thanks guys
hello everyone, im glad to be back! haven't used this forum in well over a year and ive missed it. ive decided to get another ppc. i'm looking at getting the tytn 2 off ebay. basically i want just the most powerful spec ppc. apart from the shift and advantage (cant afford them) this seems the best choice. also i would like a qwerty keyboard although b4 i got by with the spb full keyboard but now i want a qwerty one. if anyone can suggest any other ppc's with a high spec let me know plz. i didn't wanna spend more than a 200 quid but after watching ebay for 3 days it seems i have to.i've got 300 quid but for that i'd like a ppc a decent memory card and some bluetooth stereo headphones such as the sony ones. luckily ive got still got loads software (i.e. tomtom) from b4 but that's from older os'es. the one on ebay is 200 buy it now but its shipped from germany.the whole lisitng is in german but at the bottom is says 'attention int. buyers this phone has german software' surely i can just flash it with an english rom such as dutty's? is that correct?just as i was leaving the forums last time. xda-dev had 2 take all the roms down due to a copyright warning from ms. does this mean i have to cook my own? sounds daunting. basically i just wanna know if this german stellar is gonna b compatible on english nets? and if anyones got any suggestions for another ppc. sorry for posting in the general section, maybe this could have went in a different board but i've got 21 hours or so till the auction ends. thanks guys. glad 2 b bk, gareth
p.s. i've got an almost new orbit with a cracked screen. anyone good at fitting screens, or wanna buy it? or sell me a screen lol. ( i still want a newer ppc though) this is why i left the boards- cracked me screen didnt i lol.
Default cmon ppl
cmon guys sum1 must b able 2 spare me a minute. the auction ends soon. 'can i buy a german kaiser, flash it wiv english rom and use on uk network'
no man. most of the times the device ID does not match along with the carrier rom of other operators. so if your device is german operator specific, i dont think it will match along with ur desired rom updated. and since u r planning to buy from ebay, you only have a less chance of getting the full advantage of knowing you can rom update into english
German to English ROM change should be OK
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. . . cmon guys sum1 must b able 2 spare me a minute. the auction ends soon. 'can i buy a german kaiser, flash it wiv english rom and use on uk network'
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I don't think you should have any trouble - people take devices that started out with WorldWideEnglish on them and flash to different language ROM's all the time. The hardware is the same, the keyboard layout may be slightly different. You will have to follow directions here and Hard-SPL unlock, and may need to do SIM-unlock, but I know it's all do-able.
thanx 4 the reply
thanks a lot guys,well.. what do i do here? 2 pieces of conflicting info from 2 experienced guys. shall i take this as it should be ok but theres a possibility of it going wrong? i called uk 02 tech support, they wouldn't tell me anything 'cant make any guarantees, we dont support this etc.etc.'the guy has posted it on uk ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=270225685569&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017
is it not worth the risk then do you think
n e got 1 for sale? lol
i wouldnt listen to what ayyu3m said at all. true the ID will be different, but that is one of the reasons we use hardspl. we can bypass the CID and install rom from other kaisers. no problems whatsoever, expect maybe the keyboard layout
yea i agree, cid is counrty id isnt it? still not sure what 2 do. ill have to check the standard german keyboard layout. 200 quid is alot to waste but then again i could whack it back on ebay.has anyone actually tried this?cheers 4 ur reply m8, and the others all appreciated
CID=carrier ID
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thanks a lot guys,well.. what do i do here? 2 pieces of conflicting info from 2 experienced guys. shall i take this as it should be ok but theres a possibility of it going wrong? i called uk 02 tech support, they wouldn't tell me anything 'cant make any guarantees, we dont support this etc.etc.'the guy has posted it on uk ebay http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....m=270225685569&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=017
is it not worth the risk then do you think
n e got 1 for sale? lol
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The phone sold on this auction is HERMES not KAISER
if it is a hermes you want i have one for sale
full working order
sadly no box but i have the case - charger - usb sync cable - spare styliii
let me know
hermes offer
i will if its cheaper than the ebay ones, i woz gonna get a kaiser but if ill save money ill buy it then i can get a umoc aswell!how much mate?
Hi everyone
I have the above as a works phone and cannot really SPL the thing. I have read all new ones are pre-loaded with 6.1?
Does anyone know when Orange plan on releasing a 6.1 update, or if a copy has got out into the wild, or if the new phones have been copied and if there is a some way I could update?
Many thanks for any comments from you techno gods out there....
htc has some website that you can look on to see if your company has a rom update. I'm from the states and htc hates us so we don't have that option. (unless we actually bought a kaiser and not a tilt) So I am not versed in the HTC website format.
orange not released an updated yet but you could use the latest HTC rom and put that on your phone but you will need to hard spl it first, i recommend 3.28 as im using it and everythings fine.
The rom is ruu_Kaiser_htc_wwe_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_28.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_ship.exe you can download from this site
if new to changing roms then you need to do a bit of re search on this site and also you'll need to load SSPL-KAIS first on your phone before the Kaiser-HardSPL3.28 and then finally the rom above. all available on this site somewhere.
At first it seems complicated but after 20 or so flashes its a dodle....
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htc has some website that you can look on to see if your company has a rom update. I'm from the states and htc hates us so we don't have that option. (unless we actually bought a kaiser and not a tilt) So I am not versed in the HTC website format.
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intrested in finding this website.... t-mobile staff didn't seem to know anything about a 6.1 update when i recently e-mailed them.
T-mobile maybe releasing the update in July or August is the official response to be timed with the release of the Vario 4
Bump!
If the phones that currently ship are coming with 6.1 is it possible to lift the rom and put it on my phone?
Thanks for any info....
My Kaiser that arrived on Friday has 6.0 on it not 6.1
It's on the Three network
Don't know about 3, but orange are I believe. I heard they took the phone out of sale for two weeks to make the change?
Surely on this doyen of PDA knowledge, someone can give me an answer. Aren't there any orange staff reading this?
Orange are rubbish - why would they give a ****?
Im disappointed in Orange. They are supposed to be releasing 6.1, but it never seems to happen... They say keep an eye on the download site, but the rom never arrives!
I wish they would sort this out... I love the phone, but a bit fed up that the vibrator never stops sometimes when I get an email!
S
actually if you compare orange to at&t orange is the better provider
for instance i broke my universal (spv m5000) and they deliver the next day. on 15 quid admin cost wereas at&t charge extortionat prices for this
they have a better 3g coverage great customer service
the only reason im dissappointed is because they **** about with there roms thats why its take a while to get them out i rang orange about a week ago and they said 5 months
but at least if it dies you can get a fast delivery of a new one
I wish they would hurry up!!
Do you know if they ship new ones with 6.1, or still 6.0??
S
They are shipping new ones with 6.1. There are several people on differant forums reporting how much quicker their replacement phones are to their old 6.0.
Can the new rom be lifted and put on to a version 6.0 without spl. ANYBODY??
Orange might never release the damn thing. I ask you, if its OK for new phones why not release it?
had my tytn II now for a couple of weeks and can say its 6.1. afaik all tytns now shipped by orange should be flashed with 6.1 but be wary in dealerships as they may still be clearing old stock running on 6
Mine has a small fault... I was just going to ignore it, but if the Orange Care replacement will be 6.1, then I might report it after all...
Anyone had an Orange Care replacement of a 6.0 for a 6.1??
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Orange are rubbish - why would they give a ****?
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Behave. You will get bad experiences with all networks, your infinitely superior network included.
As for 6.1, not in Orange stores yet. I work in Orange retail, theres certainly been no recall to update them. The website is listing them as out of stock when the retail allocation is still OK, so its possible the business website has pulled them to update them to 6.1 - even though on the spec sheet its still showing as ver 6.
hhmmm sound promising. the only ****er with replacing is the fact i have to keep the back cover which has started to deteriorate. and some of the clips have snapped of the back
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hhmmm sound promising. the only ****er with replacing is the fact i have to keep the back cover which has started to deteriorate. and some of the clips have snapped of the back
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Tell them the covers broken, you'll have to pay the admin fee regardless, a broken backdoor impedes normal function of the phone if say...the battery keeps falling out. Or something.
Generally though, handset replacements are refurbed kit which will obv be reflashed, so its feasible that it'll have 6.1 but I wouldnt hold out for it.
ill wait until the phone kicks it. at least the admins so low. atnt charge eq 200 quid for replacements and orange uk pay 15
lovin it
just had to have a replacement phone off orange care last week my replacement still as only got version 6 on it
Hi everybody. Few days ago I`ve groved up to buy HTC s-730, after some time of wondering.
But - here is the flop - it dissapeared of all the internet shops in Poland, also from allegro - polish web auctions. HTC polish dealers say, that they will not distribute it anymore. But it`s even not present at ebay.com. Do You know what happened?
I can only guess: HTC also makes S730 under different brand and probably that is the main reason for availability problem. Soon will be released Touch Pro (which is modified Diamond with qwerty keyboard) and they stop production of S730. I own S730 and now I regret a bit that I bought smartphone without gps instead of touchscreen model with gps.
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I can only guess: HTC also makes S730 under different brand and probably that is the main reason for availability problem. Soon will be released Touch Pro (which is modified Diamond with qwerty keyboard) and they stop production of S730. I own S730 and now I regret a bit that I bought smartphone without gps instead of touchscreen model with gps.
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It should have had GPS since the pre prod. model's all did, which is why I bought mine. I am looking to dump it later in the year when the Touch Pro hits the US, I wouldnt mind full 3G for that upgraded phone but I will end up importing it if the carriers gimp the phone like they usually do.
I could see them halting production and distribution of the S730 around a year after its release with all the better handsets they are putting out now. I hope to be able to sell mine when the time comes...who knows.
Now everthing is clear why S730 vanished from shops - S740 is coming soon I wonder when HTC re-think its policy about existing clients: "No support, just buy newer device".
Would be nice to have some support, I do not like the new S740 at all. I am looking to jump on the Touch Pro when it hits ATT if its not gimped too much. School and work are starting to tax my poor little edge connection. That and I am bitter that they cut so much from our phones which are fully advertised in the new version...
I have a Snapdragon Note 9 in the UK. I went to Samsung to ask for a price to repair my screen yesterday. They spoke to me like i'd just walked through the door with an apple product. Another online company also said they can't fix the phone.
Any idea where I can get a new screen repaired on my phone?
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I have a Snapdragon Note 9 in the UK. I went to Samsung to ask for a price to repair my screen yesterday. They spoke to me like i'd just walked through the door with an apple product. Another online company also said they can't fix the phone.
Any idea where I can get a new screen repaired on my phone?
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since its from the states samsung uk cannot work on it.
usualy regular repair shops should have no problem doing it though....
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since its from the states samsung uk cannot work on it.
usualy regular repair shops should have no problem doing it though....
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Finally found one.. wow its not cheap!
That's an option for Smasung UK but they won't touch it.
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That's an option for Smasung UK but they won't touch it.
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dont worry with that guy he wants to force people to think like he does.
he's forcefully "helping"...if you can actually call that help. i think it's more towards helping his own vanity if you ask me.
plus he dosen't read what was just discussed. that's a big no no on xda.
jd14771 said:
Hindsight: i did not expect something so simple as a screen repair to turn into 2 hours of research.
I did not mean samsung uk, or samsung us. because your phone is actually the honk kong variant from China.
I did a quick live chat with the HK samsung support line and while they can fix the phone, everyone i spoke too said you would have to visit the service center..in person, in hong kong , and that is the ONLY option. Samsung US confirmed this. (Its NOT TRUE, KEEP READING) This make's little to no sense that a company like samsung has region locks on repairs. Like i would understand if the parts are not on hand, and i get some parts can be different, but not to the point that a service center in the UK cant fix a HK note.. or even why you can't send your note to HK to get it fixed. absolute madness on samsungs part and another reason why i think this is my last samsung phone. But back to business.
From everything i have seen, the screen is the same for all models, including the SM-N9600, and confirmed by my local service center (i am in the US). The parts for screen repair are identical .
I called samsung UK and they will not touch ANY phone bought outside of the EU. Not even if its an EU model, they have to go by serial/IMIE number in order to start the repair.
MY local service center said they WILL fix the SM-N9600, but the international version is $299 because samsung sets the price. But unfortunatley, you can not send ANY device for mail in repair. This is due to samsung claiming the phone could be damaged before arrival, causing more damage, or cause damage on return. Per samsung, the phone has to be guaranteed in like new condition when given to the customer, and they can not gaurentee that quality if sent by mail, EVEN THOUGH MY AT&T NOTE 9 CAME TO ME NEW, MY F%#$NG MAIL This is a new development that started 2 months ago.
I know that doesn't help you, but i spent way to long on this not to point that out. You would think that the service center in the UK should be following the same guideline. right? But- NO. Samsung UK will not touch ANY PHONE from outside the EU. .
If there was a way to get this fixed by samsung i would have found it, i chatted with samsung HK (phones offline since its 3am), talked with Samsung UK, talked with Samsung US, even talked with service centers from UK and US.
From Everything i have gathered and saw from your posts, i believe that you were given bad information by your local service center, just like Samsung
First off, theres nothing "forceful" about adding a suggestion to try.
Second, Wow, you say im doing it for my "vanity", and in another post you claim im trying to "prove you wrong". Have you ever heard of projection?
Third, you don't even have his model correct, its a SM-N9600 Hong kong/CHINA) NOT US. But its ok i made the same assumption too until i saw his signature in other posts that show its a N9600.
Can you stop taking my advice as personal attacks on you? As if i am simply trying to "one up" you or some ****. If you had given the same suggestion i was thinking of i wouldn't say anything. What is wrong with people like you ant IT_architect? You two are pees in a pod in my eyes if we are going to start talking **** on a help forum for a phone? but id rather you just ignore me from here on out because i enjoy XDA for the lack of drama and it passes the time in the day while helping people. Not a bad way to waste time on the internet.
All i did was suggest he send it directly to samsung in SK and BOOM you immediately jump in and talk ****. Its getting OLD and you've been doing it since i first interacted with you months ago.
as far as what rule i broke on xda, i have no clue what you are talking about. but i suggest you stop cluttering up threads by quoting me everytime you want to try and slander my help. If you dont agree that's fine, if you think i said something completely wrong, that's also fine, simply reply and clarify whats wrong. but do the forum a favor and stop acting like you own it. The internet has enough **** on it, stop adding to it.
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change the part where i said US to china or even Chile for that matter. it dosent change the fact that the samsung center from region X where the user lives wont touch the device if its from region Y. it needs to be from that same region X .
explantion done
but wait OP and i knew that already before you interfered.
jd14771 said:
Hindsight: i did not expect something so simple as a screen repair to turn into 2 hours of research.
I did not mean samsung uk, or samsung us. because your phone is actually the honk kong variant from China.
I did a quick live chat with the HK samsung support line and while they can fix the phone, everyone i spoke too said you would have to visit the service center..in person, in hong kong , and that is the ONLY option. Samsung US confirmed this. (Its NOT TRUE, KEEP READING) This make's little to no sense that a company like samsung has region locks on repairs. Like i would understand if the parts are not on hand, and i get some parts can be different, but not to the point that a service center in the UK cant fix a HK note.. or even why you can't send your note to HK to get it fixed. absolute madness on samsungs part and another reason why i think this is my last samsung phone. But back to business.
From everything i have seen, the screen is the same for all models, including the SM-N9600, and confirmed by my local service center (i am in the US). The parts for screen repair are identical .
I called samsung UK and they will not touch ANY phone bought outside of the EU. Not even if its an EU model, they have to go by serial/IMIE number in order to start the repair.
MY local service center said they WILL fix the SM-N9600, but the international version is $299 because samsung sets the price. But unfortunatley, you can not send ANY device for mail in repair. This is due to samsung claiming the phone could be damaged before arrival, causing more damage, or cause damage on return. Per samsung, the phone has to be guaranteed in like new condition when given to the customer, and they can not gaurentee that quality if sent by mail, EVEN THOUGH MY AT&T NOTE 9 CAME TO ME NEW, MY F%#$NG MAIL This is a new development that started 2 months ago.
I know that doesn't help you, but i spent way to long on this not to point that out. You would think that the service center in the UK should be following the same guideline. right? But- NO. Samsung UK will not touch ANY PHONE from outside the EU. .
If there was a way to get this fixed by samsung i would have found it, i chatted with samsung HK (phones offline since its 3am), talked with Samsung UK, talked with Samsung US, even talked with service centers from UK and US.
From Everything i have gathered and saw from your posts, i believe that you were given bad information by your local service center, just like Samsung
First off, theres nothing "forceful" about adding a suggestion to try.
Second, Wow, you say im doing it for my "vanity", and in another post you claim im trying to "prove you wrong". Have you ever heard of projection?
Third, you don't even have his model correct, its a SM-N9600 Hong kong/CHINA) NOT US. But its ok i made the same assumption too until i saw his signature in other posts that show its a N9600.
Can you stop taking my advice as personal attacks on you? As if i am simply trying to "one up" you or some ****. If you had given the same suggestion i was thinking of i wouldn't say anything. What is wrong with people like you ant IT_architect? You two are pees in a pod in my eyes if we are going to start talking **** on a help forum for a phone? but id rather you just ignore me from here on out because i enjoy XDA for the lack of drama and it passes the time in the day while helping people. Not a bad way to waste time on the internet.
All i did was suggest he send it directly to samsung in SK and BOOM you immediately jump in and talk ****. Its getting OLD and you've been doing it since i first interacted with you months ago.
as far as what rule i broke on xda, i have no clue what you are talking about. but i suggest you stop cluttering up threads by quoting me everytime you want to try and slander my help. If you dont agree that's fine, if you think i said something completely wrong, that's also fine, simply reply and clarify whats wrong. but do the forum a favor and stop acting like you own it. The internet has enough **** on it, stop adding to it.
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I really appreciate the effort you have gone to over this for me.
It's proved two things. That any official note 9 screen will work and gives me options when shopping around and Samsung are mental when it comes to customer support!
It's certainly put me off having another Samsung!
It doesn't make logical sense to be that bloody minded about it.