does it really lacks the IrDA port?
I use the irda port on my wizard to download my Polar Data.
Yup, it really does lack IR.
Gordon
Damn you HTC
edgardito said:
does it really lacks the IrDA port?
I use the irda port on my wizard to download my Polar Data.
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Sucks big time. I used my Trinity as a universal remote. I hate it when they replace specs instead of just upping them.
Cutting reduces cost, size and use of battery life.
Most people didn't use IrDA
maybe you can find one for the SD/IO port ?
DLD
RacerX10 said:
maybe you can find one for the SD/IO port ?
DLD
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Thanks but I don't particularly like the idea of stuff sticking out of my sd ports. Besides, (micro)SDIO products are few and far between. They never should have removed it because infrared is still used in a number of different appliances which could double your phone as a remote control. As far as I know, it doesn't take up battery life whilst idle (unless you set it to constantly watch for incoming beams?)...
I sure hope their next phone reintroduces it.
forcedalias said:
Thanks but I don't particularly like the idea of stuff sticking out of my sd ports. Besides, (micro)SDIO products are few and far between. They never should have removed it because infrared is still used in a number of different appliances which could double your phone as a remote control. As far as I know, it doesn't take up battery life whilst idle (unless you set it to constantly watch for incoming beams?)...
I sure hope their next phone reintroduces it.
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Don't like stuff hanging out of mine either!
Sadly, I doubt very much you will see it return in future devices. The TyTn had one, but it's range was veeeery low, just a couple of feet. I have the feeling it's like floppy discs getting as rare as hens teeth.
Mike
Welcome "Industry trends"
Some fool decided that IrDA is a no-go and should be removed from laptops and hence from PDAs since Bluetooth has 100% penetration. Outlook for this was 2007, then pushed to 2008 and now they are talking about 2009... I know my company sells chips with IrDA support for laptops coming out on 2008/9... there is still demand but probably the chipset used for the P4550 does not support FIR (IrDA) anymore...
I am in search for a new device to replace my BlueAngel and have had a look at the TyTn II as well as the P6500 but I am very disapointed to find out that the IrDA is no longer available in the new HTC units. I am using the Ir for several devices like my other phones, Polar sports watch, dive computer etc. so for me the Ir is an essential feature.
Are there any way to get this working, I have not found any external units to connect to the TyTn via mini USB. (Even though I would hate have to have some contraption hanging out of the device.)
As of now I might start consider leaving the HTC-land after 6 years with their fantastic products.
/Ronny
( - Wallaby - Blue Angel - Atom - )
Just wondering if anyone has found a solution/accessory for this lack of IrDA port? I have a Touch Cruise which also lacks a IRDA (Gee thanks HTC). I need to get it to talk to my Polar S625x watch. Anyone found a miniUSB IRDA device?
Thanks
OK, I have read a bunch of posts on the lack of IR abilities and how the Tilt uses BT to beam. I just sent a file from the Tilt to my Hermes via BT and it took about 10 seconds. I enabled IR on both devices and aligned the IR port on the Herm towards the left side of the Tilt and it gave the option to beam, I beamed the same size file and it took less than a second. I am not sure I understand, I repeated the test 3 times with the same result. Any ideas?
has anyone tryed this?
http://www.ameri-rack.com/APA-TFC1m.html
Its a sd to microsd port so you can fit into your sdio irda into your phone. its gona be pretty big but at least that is an option...
Related
There is a short review of the Targus Universal Wireless Keyboard on Geekzone . The unit works with either PocketPCs or PalmOS PDAs via the IR port. The article does not answer the number one question I have though: "Does it work with the XDA?"
Note the second picture in the article; Notice (1) the mouse, and (2) the adjustable IR xceiver. The built-in mouse seems pretty neat -- I don't know how useful it actually is, but if it eliminates the need to use the stylus when using the keyboard, that could be huge! Also, I would think that having an adjustable IR xceiver (2) would make IR operation with the XDA better because of the odd placement of the XDA's IR port.
This unit is $79.95 at my local Best Buy, and $49.95 with free shipping from Amazon.
Can anyone comment on the operation of this device with the XDA?
Donovan.
The keyboard is excellent. Mouse works great...lets you move around on the screen and click with a mouse pointer. Keyboard is nice and full sized so easy to type on. The arm does move to adjust to just above the IR port. Very responsive you would never know it was a IR keyboard.
I had a pocketop and sorry - it was just junk not to mention the driver for the XDA. Im running 2003 and love the keyboard. No problems at all. GO FOR IT.
Thx drj. This is just the feedback I was hoping to receive. I'm picking up one on my way home from work!
one thing I shoud mention. Go to Targus.com and download the latest driver for the Pocketpc.com Think the CD version is out of date.
Thx drj. I just spent an hour getting acclimated to my new Targus Universal Wireless keyboard. You are absolutely on point! This unit is amazing. The combination of near-full-size keyboard, "mouse" and function keys really enhances the PocketPC user experience. Even though I am not seeking it, this is very close to a desktop experience; what I am looking for is an accessory that will allow rapid text entry when I need to do a lot of it. I think I've found it. Thx for your input, it's much appreciated.
Donovan.
I wonder why at Amazon, there are only negative reports!! Is it as good as you guys say or should I believe the reports?
Targus has no driver for the XDA. Will the other drivers of the units offered, work with the XDA?
If somebody knows pls. reply.
THX
Gear
i just installed the pocket pc 2002 driver / ipaq
and it works great
what i DONT like about is... my ppc has the extended battery, and its too thick for that little hook to hold it.
what it needs is an angled mirror! like i saw on some other design... so that way, even if the IR handle DONT reach it, it will still reflect off the mirror.
but, its a wonderfull product, as close to a full size keyboard as u can get!
There is a driver for O2 XDA. You have to download it off targus.com.
It works great...no conflicts.
Well lets just say I bought a pocketop and it was JUNK. When they released the so called driver for the XDA it was very flakey, I had to hard reset my device to get it back to normal. If they fixed their drivers then maybe it would be an OK input solution. (not great though) But they have 3rd party contractors coding their drivers so no one on staff.
The Targus among other things has an adjustable arm that you move to just over your IR port. As I said have it running on my XDA and WM 2003 and no problems. I do love this keyboard and can take it with me when the XDA2 is here!
ntabikha said:
i just installed the pocket pc 2002 driver / ipaq
and it works great
what i DONT like about is... my ppc has the extended battery, and its too thick for that little hook to hold it.
what it needs is an angled mirror! like i saw on some other design... so that way, even if the IR handle DONT reach it, it will still reflect off the mirror.
but, its a wonderfull product, as close to a full size keyboard as u can get!
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What about a sync cable?
Can you have this keyboard working with the device ands till have it attached to a sync/charge cable?
the problem with my current keybaord is I constantly plug it and unplug it in order to transfer test apps over etc.
..Chuck..
well.. with This particular model, yes!
its IR... the pda never have to physicaly connect to nothing!
infact... if u lay them both on a desk... it can be up to 2 feet away from the keyboard.. provided u have the IR transmitter and IR receiver on the pda facing each other.
thats why i was suggesting the mirror thingie... or maybe a bottle of scotch might act like a prizm and reflect the IR in all directions
Here is a little something I wanted to share with the group though it is quite possible it will be of no interest to anyone here. Still, blabbing seems to be allowed in this section so here goes.
Today I was going through some long unopened drawers at the office and ran in to a real antique: An HP Jornada 710.
I read about these devices before, how some people still experiment with them running Linux and stuff.
Well, I decided to see what the fuss was about but of course non of its original accessories were anywhere to be found.
Fortunately I have a 'heavy duty' 1000mA universal DC adapter at home that after some struggling I managed to connect to the device. (Mind you this is a particularly hungry little toy - 12V, 2.5A)
And to my surprise it came to life almost immediately after at least 3 years of lying dormant in a draw.
What surprised me even more, was what I found on the desktop of the unit. I worked with Win CE 4.2 and 5 devices but I really didn't expect that the old "Hand Held PC" derivative would have Power Point and Mobile Access apps preinstalled in ROM. (Just for the power point we had to wait through 3.5 Windows Mobile versions 2000, 2002, 2003 / SE).
All in all I found this 6 year old device to be more impressive then many WM5 devices I've seen.
Well right now I left it to charge over night and will take it back to the office in the morning for show and tell.
I doubt I will attempt changing the ROM, but I am trying to think of a neat use for it since it seems a shame to put such a device back in the draw.
Ow well, just thought I share, any comments, thoughts etc. are welcomed.
You should read Pocket PC Expert more! They have adverts in every magazine asking to buy, and also selling these devices. I still think that they were nearly the best form factor ever made - I loved my Psion 5, and still think in many ways it's the sexiest device I've used.
Someone should really refactor these devices - slightly thinner, foldback screen to use as a tablet (like Univeral), and it would be a beautiful "on the go" business companion.
Then again, we have Athena. $1100 right?!
V
Is that the one with the built in dial up modem?
OdeeanRDeathshead said:
Is that the one with the built in dial up modem?
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Not unless there suppose to be some special cable for it that plugs in to a phone socket.
The software is there, even a dedicated button on the side of the screen but nothing that would look like a modem socket on the device it self.
One crazy though: I have a 3COM PCMCIA WiFi card for my old Toshiba laptop.
If that had a driver for CE (which I am pretty sure it doesn't) maybe it could have worked on the Jornada (probably not because of power requirements or interface version) and that would make a neat terminal.
Oh well, for now the adapter seems to have fried (no external damage, but the indicator light no longer comes on and something is loose inside).
I think the unit is still OK but the battery doesn't hold charge so for now all experiments are on hold.
I still have my iPAQ H3630 (UK) which I upgraded to PPC2002. I have the Stowaway Keyboard and the PC Card Expansion Jacket and used to use a 2GB PC Card HDD in there way back when!
Last week the internal battery died :-(
I need to see if its economically viable to repair....
I can't see it in the specs or make out from the pictures, but it looks like the Tytn II/Kaiser (Stellar) doesn't have infra red.
Anyone confirm that ?
Thanks, DBo.
Yes it's true, any version of the Tytn 2 does not have an IRDA port, shame as it would have been great to use as a remote control.
B*gger!
I have a dive computer that has an IRDA interface. It means I can view dive info straight away after surfacing. That means 'taking two devices into the shower' now.
BTW, The O2 site definitely lists the Stellar as having IRDA, although the PDF manual doesn't.
<sigh>
Dispite what you may have read anywhere else, no version of the TyTN II has IrDA. Last year, HTC announced a new policy of eliminating IrDA from all of their products. I can understand their reasoning, the TyTN II has Bluetooth, which has pretty much replaced IrDA has the low power data transfer protocol. Only legacy devices still use IrDA. And don't shed to many tears for not being able to use the TyTN II as a remote, as IrDA ports are poorly adapted to sending remote control signals, and usually have a range of only 4-5 feet.
Hello!!
I installed tvout.cab from other HTC device to XPERIA.
In folder windows, after installation, some files were creates: HTCTVOutPopUp.exe,HTCTVOutPopUp.png, etc, etc.....
I plug my tv out cable from n95(Jack to RGB(yellow/white/red)), but only the sound from my xperia listen in my tv, no image at all.
Then, I tried to click and execute HTCTVOutPopUp.exe from windows folder with cable jack plug to my TV, but nothing happens.
Also I tried to modify some registry values like:
HKLM\ControlPanel\TVOutSetting, HKLM\ControlPanel\TVOutSetting
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOutPopUp/PAL...etc, etc...nothings seems to works.
Sound listen ok, but no image.
I think, that if there are any change that tv-out xperia works, the right cable to plug to TV is mini-usb to RGB like touch pro and no jack to RGB.
I hope you understand my post...I am from Spain and I am writing too fast.
It will not work...
Xperia doesnt have any tv-out features
Thanks for trying it out. Like you said, if there is something there, the system will be identical to touch pro.
Would be funny if the connectors are there
From what I hear Touch Pro has a proprietary USB connector that has more pins and uses them for audio and TV-out. On the other hand XPERIA has a standard miniB USB plug that doesn't host more pins for these functions.
If it doesn't work from the 3.5mm jack I doubt that it will work at all (except if it is a software problem). I am quite disappointed with SE because the hardware is there but they didn't bother to implement the feature.
There are another couple of threads about this already, stating most of what's been said here. There is a "TVOutEnable" or similar reg setting that someone found, though I can't seem to find it on my X1i (more than likely due to the custom ROM, it was on the standard Vodafone UK ROM). Thing is this reg setting is about 6-7 digits long, not just a 0 or 1.
I'd like to see if this setting is also on the Touch Pro, and see if copying this setting to the xperia would make a difference.
Another point is that other phones using the same 4-pin audio output route the TVOut function to the headphone/mic connectors, as does the Touch pro; IF the TVOut function is at all doable, then it will more than likely use the headphone socket. Domin8or said in another thread that the USB connector actually has plated connectors on the other side, like the proprietary HTC USB socket, but I can't tell from looking at mine whether that's true or not, though I intend to test it out by hacking the headset I got with the Touch Pro to fit into the xperia USB socket to see if there are any connectors there.
I somehow reckon this will be done at some point, provided we can get the correct reg settings and software to work; the TVOut function as I understand is part of the chipset, which is just ignored by SE in the xperia, probably because of licensing fees/other costs involved with getting the functionality "approved" by qualcomm. If the TVOut functions on other phones use the same connectors as the headset/mic, then I don't see why the connectors wouldn't be present and connected on the xperia, just not enabled by software... That'll be a job for us* at XDA then
When I say "us" I mean the community in general, there are way, way more talented people here than me who might be able to help with this, I just hope I can help in any way I can testing etc...
Hello!!
That are the values that I "played" in order to try video out works via jack cable.
HKLM\ControlPanel\TVOutSetting/
Group 0/1
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOut\
FunctionEnable 0/1
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOutPopUp\
PAL 4
TVMode 4
sethh said:
Hello!!
That are the values that I "played" in order to try video out works via jack cable.
HKLM\ControlPanel\TVOutSetting/
Group 0/1
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOut\
FunctionEnable 0/1
HKLM\Software\HTC\TVOutPopUp\
PAL 4
TVMode 4
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sorry I`m not english speaking. but are you saying video out works or You just tryed?
i tried my wired htc remote in the x1 and couldnt get it too work, got it hacked down to shape but it wasnt recognised by the device
its also not the same internals as the touch pro or hd as theres no g sensor
well, unless there are hardware limitations, ex : missing pin or those htc devices are using special jacks; i don't see why it won't work in x1 since it's more than 90% similar to Pro and HD, but perhaps it will need more than just a simple registry hacks.
I guess this all depend on the kindness and dedications from many smarter guys in entire x1 communities.
Hi
Its ane hope to make TV OUT in xperia working?
Sort for my anglish
Did anyone tried putting the Rom of a touch pro to x1 then try the tv out with it?
what
a
pointless
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there is no hardware inside xperia to have tv-out. it is the same case like with people looking for fm radio in tytn 2. if I am wrong, I will eat my shorts.
bronx said:
there is no hardware inside xperia to have tv-out. it is the same case like with people looking for fm radio in tytn 2. if I am wrong, I will eat my shorts.
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Actually the hardware IS there, we just don't know if it is connected to the USB or audio jack.
It is true though that this seems a long shot.
one of the reasons why I bought the Xperia is because of the TV out....Yikes!
I should have given it a little more research before buying, but if it is really possible, I hope somebody finds out how to do it.
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Actually the hardware IS there, we just don't know if it is connected to the USB or audio jack.
It is true though that this seems a long shot.
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probably not connected to anything brah
So at last is it possible or no ?
It won't work and probably never will.
It won't work because of the contacts e.g. 3.5mm it lacks the contacts for video only for left and right speaker and for mini usb, it lacks pins.. it only works with data and charging..
This doesnt fall into any category of phone, but I think with some tweaking, we can really utilize this deck to its full potential. The Pioneer AVIC series Navigation/DVD/Car Radios are Windows CE Based, and there has been a mod to boot it directly into windows CE. The potential is AMAZING to combine the units with our smartphones. PM me if you are interested, and or have the knowledge to take this to the next level. Go to AVIC411.com to see what has been done so far. Really, not much besides some minor mods, but I could see this unit becoming a complete smartphone interphase, etc... I currently have a touch pro, and have ordered the AV adapter. I am working on a launcher to keep it in the shell, and give it the ability to use the phone as a modem, to then have dash board internet, and outlook. the possibilities are limitless!
I have the same setup, surprised no one has really taken this any further yet. I agree with you the potential here could be pretty sweet!
Was wondering if you had anyluck with teathering your touch pro to the pioneer avic headunit?
Avic...
No, I have not, but I did get the video adapter on ebay, so I am pumping video thru the AV1 source...
I really have not had a ton of time to do alot, but there is a bunch of stuff on AVIC411.com...
Let me know if you find or are able to do anything cool. (like getting the bt to work consistantly!!!)
CHARLIE
Interested
I'm definately interested. Just got a avic-900bt and would love to code some bolt on functions & camera input mods & maybe even get some extra devices interfaces working better.
I'm guessing we'd never be so lucky as to get source for the 2.0 update. Do you know if there is an avic emulator available? Where to start?
Details on setting up AVIC emulator here: http://avic411.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=18137&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=8
Has anyone done research, mods or other to get internet and/or full phone screen output to show up on the AVIC's???
I have two avic900bt's & a Sprint TP2...
I'd love to have weather, current location radar and everything else to display while driving.
The ultimate "coolness" would be able to control the phone through the AVIC's display!
Off to do some more dreamin'...
Raymond
Avic
I too have a sprint tp2 and an avic f90bt with the 3.0 firmware upgrade. I do know that it is Windows CE, and there is a lot that could be done, I just dont know exactly how to do it
I have purchased a video out from ebay for the tp2, and am able to use the video 1 input on the avic, but it is not near what it could be. There are so many other things like interactive mapping, weather etc...
Can you activesync with it?
If you just want to remotely display the screen of another Windows CE device (the Pocket PC) on another one (the Avic) just use a program like NetOp (http://www.netop.com/) installed on each device. You can probably create a PAN connection between the 2 devices using bluetooth to get a network connection. And you probably won't need Activesync if you just download the cab versions and install them.
maybe have someone intresse to help me with the radar detector system modify on a pioneer AVIC-HD1bt
see
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