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Hey all, two quick disclaimers: 1, I hate when initial posts are self-serving and 2. I've searched the forums high and low, and couldn't find anything on this.
That out of the way, I'm hoping to help fill in this gap and in the process get this model into the club.
I have the Verizon xv6600 with the camera, which means that audivox has no available patch for it, Verizon has no available information on it, and none of the other possible ship roms that I could find will let me upgrade or change anything in it.
I wanted to share the details of this model, and hopefully upload the rom, if that hasn't been done, but I wasn't sure, 1) where to put it 2) if this is even something that anyone wants me to do, and 3) how to do it.
As for 3) I did dig through the wiki, and the forums, couldn't find any sticky's or anything right on point, though I might just be bad at digging.
As for the info:
We have:
Rom Version: 1.35.00 WWE
Rom Date: 12/10/04
Radio version: HA01_140
Protocol version: AA3.3.301
PRL: 50276
ExtROM: 1.35.113 WWE
My current BT: 3500
Anyhow, don't mean to be self serving, just noticed that this device is absent on the site.
Thanks all.
mods, feel free to move this anywhere it might be more useful.
On wiki we have
XV6600WOC WWE 1.35.00 1.35.115 HA01_140
which seems is higher than your 1.35.113 WWE
You should be able to open your extneded rom and rar that to upload onto the site, somebody will link it to wiki or even cook it.
The ftp link is:
ftp://ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blueangel
the user is xda and password xda (both small the forum makes it large)
done and done.
done and done,
hopefully I wasn't too sloppy.
Doesn't seem that there's any other denotation for the name (like WC or something) and there are no official patches for this model. (the WOC update will fail, but purportedly, that's already on here.)
Let me know if anyone needs anything else.
Cheers.
(btw thanks for the nudge in the right direction)
jazzrich9
Very interesting stuff here. I have the Sprint PPC6600, and after the most recent update on the Audiovox site I am at:
Rom Version: 1.36.00
Rom Date: 1/13/05
Radio version: HA00_140
Protocol version: AA3.3.301
PRL: 10026
Extrom; 1.36.110 WWE
As you know, Sprint doesn't have their EV-DO network up yet (well, it's partially up but still in the testing phase). I'm curious if the 00_140 radio version has EV-DO disabled? I wonder if I was able to flash radio version 01_140 onto my Sprint Harrier if it would flick on the EV-DO radio (I live in an area they are currently testing it). Probably requires provisioning and PRL update to work, but cool to think about .
What seems most interesting to me at this point is that HTC has done up a new ROM containing WMP10 (maybe you already knew this from reading the WMP10 on Blue Angel post in here). It takes the ROM up to 2.03 (Radio is still 01_140). You can download the imate Harrier version here:
ftp://www.clubimate.com/Support/HA_Telstra_20300_111_01140.exe
I can't get anywhere trying to install it because the nbfs are all protected by the new protection and the country code 120 error always comes up. I am hopeful that some of the bright minds here (mamaich!) can come up with a way to allow us to flash the new roms on our devices.
Dan
P.S. DeviceData.txt reports that my Sprint Device has an Operator ID of 53500001. Can you run GetDeviceData.exe on your VX6600 and tell me what your Operator ID is? They have a pretty good catalog of all the GSM Operator IDs in the wiki, but Sprint and Verizon are missing from the list.
Using the MaUpgradeUT_noID.exe file I was able to upgrade my 6600 to the new wm10 version with Sprint's extended rom. even went as far as removing picture mail, audible player and that express crap from the extended rom using the extended rom tool on the device. Right now I'm flashing it again as this time I added telstra's radio image so I'll have telstra's windows mobile and radio image with a sprint extended rom. I also got the country code error but when the rom update program stops I just run it again cause the device is still in loader mode. When I start the update again nothing gets verified and the upgrade will go without any problems. I'm a newbie with all of this so there's probably a better way, good thing I have a test device just in case I screw sometrhing up.
**update
No success using verizon's radio rom, but using sprint's radio rom works.
that_kid said:
Using the MaUpgradeUT_noID.exe file I was able to upgrade my 6600 to the new wm10 version with Sprint's extended rom. even went as far as removing picture mail, audible player and that express crap from the extended rom using the extended rom tool on the device. Right now I'm flashing it again as this time I added telstra's radio image so I'll have telstra's windows mobile and radio image with a sprint extended rom. I also got the country code error but when the rom update program stops I just run it again cause the device is still in loader mode. When I start the update again nothing gets verified and the upgrade will go without any problems. I'm a newbie with all of this so there's probably a better way, good thing I have a test device just in case I screw sometrhing up.
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No success using verizon's radio rom, but using sprint's radio rom works.
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that_kid,
Thanks for that tip... in all my searching I did not manage to find that method. It worked great. I also tried Flashing the HA01_140 radio ROM (from the Telstra package) but got no service on my Sprint PPC6600. I am very curious if the reason has something to do with the PRL or some other configuration... of if, God forbid, the Sprint devices really do have different hardware.
I noticed that Connectivity is now a separate icon from Phone on the top bar. I need to check the cooked WMP10 thread again as I think they came up with a fix for that.
Thanks again for pointing me in the right direction!
Dan
P.S. Have you (or anyone) checked out what's in the Telstra 2.03 extended ROM? I know I wouldn't want most of it, but I just kept the latest Sprint extended ROM (1.36.113) and am wondering if there's anything of interest in 2.03.111 WWE.
Dan,
Gald it worked for you. I have some bad news though, the reason the radio rom didn't work is because Sprint's version isn't EvDO it's just 1x. I have 2 sprint 6600's and ove Verizon branded harrier and one unbranded harrier. The unbranded harrier has the same problem as Sprint's 6600's and I've since found out that the unbranded harrier isn't EvDO. I can get telstra's radio rom to work fine on the verizon harrier and later I found that the radio rom for telstra and verison are the same versions, but on the sprint 6600's and the unbranded harrier I have the same problems. Basically the radio light never flashes and the device is always looking for service. When I goto the service screen I see the device searching for service but no channel numbers are listed. So it looks like there will be alot of angry ppc6600 owners soon.
that_kid said:
Dan,
Gald it worked for you. I have some bad news though, the reason the radio rom didn't work is because Sprint's version isn't EvDO it's just 1x. I have 2 sprint 6600's and ove Verizon branded harrier and one unbranded harrier. The unbranded harrier has the same problem as Sprint's 6600's and I've since found out that the unbranded harrier isn't EvDO. I can get telstra's radio rom to work fine on the verizon harrier and later I found that the radio rom for telstra and verison are the same versions, but on the sprint 6600's and the unbranded harrier I have the same problems. Basically the radio light never flashes and the device is always looking for service. When I goto the service screen I see the device searching for service but no channel numbers are listed. So it looks like there will be alot of angry ppc6600 owners soon.
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Is it even remotely possible that it's got something to to with the PRL list? Is your unbranded Harrier activated on a cellular network? Does it have a PRL file loaded?
Dan
I wish but I tried it on one of my sprint devices and it had the correct prl on it. I still hope I'm wrong but my gut feeling is that we're screwed.
see this is all interesting stuff.
here I was getting ready to cook up MY radio version to get slightly better bt functionality, It's really silly if there's a hardware difference allowing only the verizon models to get on evdo with sprint knowing that they'd be rolling this out for a while.
That being said, verizon for some reason is rushing a 650 onto the market without evdo support... so the wisdom in telecom is sometimes hard to decipher.
Anyhow, I'm probably going to start looking around for tweaks soon, but more importantly hopefully someone with more knowledge can examine this and the xv6600woc and find out for sure whether its a hard or soft issue with evdo support. Be nice if you guys didn't have to buy another phone for that.
Cheers.
that_kid said:
I wish but I tried it on one of my sprint devices and it had the correct prl on it. I still hope I'm wrong but my gut feeling is that we're screwed.
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Hmmm... I still don't understand what you're saying here. Using a Sprint PRL, I wouldn't expect EV-DO to work (they probably have a custom PRL they're using for EV-DO testing). So have you been able to activate this unbranded Harrier on Verizon? I know you can't activate it on Sprint because they'll only activate ESNs on their list. Assuming you can activate it with Verizon and load a Verizon PRL onto it, and flash the radio to HA01_140, would it find a signal?
Well, I'm going to be pissed if they intentionally crippled this phone to make it incompatible with EV-DO, but as long as they release an EV-DO-enabled version then I'll be OK. I'll probably be able to sell this one on eBay and not have to spend too much more to buy the EV-DO model. Switching to VZW is not an option (company phone) but I'm dying for EV-DO, so I'll so what I have to do.
I hope we can get a core group of Harrier users together here. Even though some of the info here works for CDMA, it's all obviously targeted to the GSM models and some stuff isn't compatible.
I would really like to get to the bottom of this EV-DO/non EV-DO issue. Does anyone know if the imate Harrier for Telstra is EV-DO enabled? And if it is, does Telstra offer EV-DO service anywhere?
Dan
There's no custom prl for EvDO, the cell sites are the same, all the prl does is tell the phone which cell sites and which carriers the phone is permitted to use. Without the phone getting a signal, it has no idea what I can/can't do.
As far as the harrier I can activate it on verizon but haven't done so yet. I'm still trying to be 100% sure the ppc 6600's won't do EvDO and then I may make the jump. The thing that has me unsure is all the devies have the same model number on the identity screen. I'm going to take my harries apart(again) and compare the circuit boards. I just can't believe that the model number would be the same for an EvDO and non EvDO version. I have a ticket in with sprint to have the ens added to the database. It's possible cause when I used to have this done for customers when I worked at sprint, then again that was some years ago and alot has changed so I'm not holding my breath.
The unbranded harrier has the same issues as the sprint 6600's when you use the ha01_140 rom. It's not just the fact that the doesn't find a signal, the green radio light doesn't illuminate either which to me says that something is wrong. When I flash the verizon branded harrier with the same radio rom it finds a signal and the radio light works.
What you say makes good sense that_kid... I guess I just don't want to believe it .
If you don't mind disassembling your Harriers and checking components that would be great!
Meanwhile, do we know how many branded Harriers exist? Obviously there are the Audiovox ones--Sprint PPC6600 and PPC6601 and the Verizon XV6600WOC and XV6600WC. Then there's the imate branded Telstra Harrier (which I found out, is EV-DO enabled because New Zealand does have EV-DO coverage). Anyone know of any others?
Here's my next "thought". What if HTC programmed a check into the 01_XX ROM version to look for specific operator codes? This would have been done to account for CDMA providers who did not yet offer EV-DO coverage. It's a thought, but I guess we wouldn't know until Sprint launches EV-DO and whether they offer an EV-DO enabled Harrier.
Aside from that, I'm about out of ideas here. Unfortunately I don't possess much technical knowledge on the specifics of CDMA technology and how EV-DO differs from 1xRTT. However, I agree with you that if the Sprint had different hardware inside then it should have a different model code.
Speaking of that, someone posted the device info of their WOC Verizon in the big thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=15510&start=49) and shows a model PH20A3. I assume the minor number is different to indicate lack of camera. I don't have a camera-less Sprint phone to check (do you?) but my 6600 with camera is PH20A2.
Time will tell, I guess. I just find it hard to believe that HTC went and made a special radio just for Sprint (as far as I know the Harrier design has been an EV-DO model since the beginning, it was first sold in China as the Daxian CU928).
Dan
I thought of something else for you to try that_kid. Try to flash your Verizon phone with the HA00_140 radio ROM. That should tell us more about what the differences are between the two.
Wondering if it will:
a. work at all
b. work, but only connect to data @ 1xRTT
Also, here's a clue that perhaps the EV-DO components are in the Sprint device after all. Look for the hidden file in the Windows directory called PonHelp.exe. When you launch it you'll see the line "TECHNOLOGY: 1X-EVDO".
Not a slam dunk, but it is encouraging!
Dan
hmmm,
So here's a practical observation about vz and 1x. Even in the woods in the backwoods of upstate NY with only a single lonely bar on my phone service, my verizon 6600 speed tests at between 65-80kpbs. This is firmly in 1x land, but I'm wondering if that compares at all or is instructive as it relates to the sprint performance.
Also, is it possible that the network itself has to carry an evdo tag for the evdo rom. IE if you did flash my rom onto a different device, the reason its not working is THAT its not on VZW's network, and they're the only ones carrying the tag. Or basically the radio rom is only looking for that network, and it is blind to any non evdo tagged 1x network?
alright guys, this ends my crazy radio rom conspiracy theory for the day. (If it worked along those lines, there's no reason a talented coder couldn't develop a hybrid rom from this and the sprint radio rom and some other things, making the long awaited uber rom... but alas, I am not that guy.)
Hi Guys
Seems that you have opened a harrier club here.
As you have noticed we don't have much info on the harrier or CDMA devices on wiki.
Does one of you feel like PM me with some info so that I can update wiki?
Was thinking along the line of the the differnece of the radio, the issues that you have when reading this forum and my be a quick explanation of the differnces between GSM and CDMA and what ever EVDO is.
I am uploading the telstar rom, anybody know what model number this would be for?
I have updated wiki with your posts out of the List of Know thread.
Can someone with Verizon do a ##786# (and that_kid please do that on your unbranded) and report the hardware version shown on the screen?
My PPC6600 is 0041.
Dan
P.S. @MDAIIIUser, yeah I will try to get some info together for the wiki. The Harrier was just released on Bell Mobility in Canada, so we may see more interest here on that unit as more countries get it (unfortunately no Europe though).
A chap at pdaphonehome.com (The most popular forum for the Harrier, but doesn't have the technical focus of xda-developers) posted the details of his Bell Mobility PPC-6600:
Windows Mobile Second Edition
Version 4.21.1088 (Build 14235.2.0.0)
ROM version: 2.04.00 WWE
ROM date: 01/26/05
Radio version: HA00_144
Protocol version: AA3.3.301
PRL version: 30378
ExtROM version: 2.04.116 WWE
Hardware version: 0041
Browser version: MSIE 6.0
Edit: to add he has model # PH20A2... and the device has the camera--so identical to the Sprint version except for the updated ROMs.
His post is here:
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&postid=326469#post326469
He indicated that Bell Mobility does not have EV-DO up and running yet but is currently testing it and plans to launch this year (just like Sprint).
His device has WMP10 (as its CE ROM is >2.0) and he does have a newer radio version than the latest Sprint one--but notice its at 00 level. I think, at this point, it is safe to conclude that 00 = 1xRTT networks, 01= EV-DO networks (which can obviously step down to 1x when needed.
jazzrich9--your theory is plausible also (to my mind, anyway--but that doesn't count for much! ). But what about areas where VZW has no EV-DO coverage? Do you think the 1x signal also has some kind of tag that the phone's radio is looking for?
We've got quite a mystery here... will be fun to solve it.
Dan
Verizon XV6600(CAM) after the Telstra CE update:
Software Version: 2.03.00 WWE ;-)
Firmware Version: HA01_140
Hardware Version: 0041
Ehud
gavron said:
Verizon XV6600(CAM) after the Telstra CE update:
Software Version: 2.03.00 WWE ;-)
Firmware Version: HA01_140
Hardware Version: 0041
Ehud
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Thanks Ehud... so we know that the hardware version is 41 regardless of EV-DO... so I again fall back to the notion that if there were a hardware difference between the sprint/bell mobility and verizon/telstra models then we'd be able to see it reflected in the device info screens.
So... Ehud (or anyone else with an EV-DO Harrier)... if you're feeling adventurous, try to flash the 00_140 radio version using the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe utility. You'll need the PPC6600 ROM package from the Audiovox site to get the proper radio_.nbf.... beware, slow download:
http://www.audiovox.com/downloads/HA_SPCS_13600_113_00140_6600.exe
It would be very interesting to see what the results are of that test! Will the radio work at all? Can you connect via EV-DO? Enquiring minds want to know!
Dan
I have used various of customized wizard roms and have been pretty ignorant to the missed phone calls and no voicemail notification problem until recent(about 2 weeks ago) when I suddenly received a notification of 22 missed calls and 15 unheard voice messages. I think this is a fundamantle problem to any phone/ROM so we really need to get to the bottom of this. Does any one out there also have this problem? Please share your carrier and settings. Or better yet, please throw in a couple of ideas.
I have CINGULAR 8125 G3 and use CINGULAR as my carrier.
Here is my sympton:
1. intermittently miss phone calls, with no notification (missed call; voice mail) afterward. It might be related to intensively use some application like PIE or total-commander but I don't have solid data point to prove that. To proved it will need a pretty exhaustive testing being performed.
2. sometimes when trying to make calls, the sound quality was really bad and the call was dropped very shortly after making connection. However after a soft reset of the phone I could call out again with decent connection quality. Again this is really intermittent and not easily reproduced. However I suspect when the phone could not call out it probably couldn't receive calls either. So this issue could be related to the first issue.
First question is: Is this due to the new AKU3.2 rom? I am not sure about this because for once or twice with my phone flashed with 2.26 rom I still experience the problem that the phone couldn't call out until soft reset.
My other suspect is the omapclock overclocking. Because if the CPU being overclocked, maybe the cpu core that is in charge of the phone operation will get overclocked it cannot work properly when overclocked?
As you can see I am only shooting in the dark. Therefor any ideas will be welcomed/appreciated.
I read a lot about people missing phone calls and such when using the AKU 3.2 rom which is why I won't touch those roms anymore. There were even more problems with those roms on cingular, such as not being able to hang up without resetting the phone. You might want to do a quick search or scan thru the AKU 3.2 threads and take a look.
OK. Let me change to a different question: does any one has the same issue with a AKU2.x ROM? I am asking this because I am not sure if this is a AKU3 ROM problem.
How do I make a fancy poll in the beginning of this thread?
Same as above. You'll get a lot more out of reading the AKU 2 threads that are already have (and have been for some time) than by starting yet another poll few will answer. I've not heard of such a problem, nor have I ever experienced it. The AKU 2.3 roms seem pretty stable these days. I think, for the most part, this is a great example of "newer isn't always better".
Thank you Mark for sharing your thoughts and your experience. Which carrier and phone are you using? I have noticed that the cituation varies among different carriers also.
I have been using my cingular phone with both AKU3.2 and AKU2.26 and I have had at least 1 incident of phone not able to establish a steady call until a soft reset. And that's why I am trying to gather other people's data point.
Well I have the same problem with the following configuration:
MDA Vario - T-Mobile, Netherlands
IPL 2.26
SPL 2.26
Radio 2.47.11
OS 2.26.10.2 (AKU 2.3 based)
The problem of the missed calls came to my attention (via my girlfriend) when I was running a AKU2.3 based rom. At this moment I am still running the same ROM and frequently have this problem.
Hopefully this data will help analyse the problem. If I can help in any way, please let me know.
well i noticed an odd one with my kjam when i received it back from repair, it was using the latest imate rom which ever that was and it wasnt giving me the voicemail notification... it was just messaging telling me i have a sms waiting for me but i cannot download it because my phone is apparently full.. kept getting that all day, even though i deleted all of the 10 sms i had in there.
turns out it was a voicemail message. :|
There is a topic that makes clear that this happens on the dutch T-Mobile network too. I downgraded my radio rom to the original 2.19.11 and it solved my problem.
You can try disabeling the USSD service as it seems to help some people on Faria's 3.2 rom.
I have a suspect that overclocking of the CPU using OMAPCLOCK might be related to this problem. The problem to verify this is that I need a sequence with which I can constantly reproduce the miss call problem. Then I can perform further test with different combination of ROMs, applications, CPU speed configuration etc. I will definitely keep reporting my progress. Does any one have any suggestions/ideas?
Here is the testing schem I have designed:
I asked my wife and my son to call my CELL every 30min-1hr, leave voice message if they were redirected to the answer service. Then I can have a record and a clear indication on how many calls I have missed. Here is the current configuration I am using:
Cingular Plan with GPRS data package.
Molski AKU2.26 release ROM
2.47.11 Radio
No overclocking(195MHZ for 8125)
I will get a call hit/miss ratio after a day or two. Then I will switch to different setup(CPU Clock, AKU, Radio ROM etc.). Hopefully I can determine which is the determining factor in causing this missing call issue.
If you are interested in this test. Please join me and feel free to define your test scheme so we can have a broader test coverage. If eventually this turns out to be a Carrier problem, then we would have more data point to push the carriers to fix this.
Your participation would be greatly appreciated.
USA Cingular missed call possible solution
Like many USA Cingular customers with Faria's excellent 3.2 rom I started to miss calls and voicemail alerts. I would miss calls in places with great reception for no apparent reason, not just in places with spotty reception. I think I may have a solution to the problem.
Cingular has been giving customers a new 64k orange colored sim card to replace the older 32k black colored sims. I went to cingular to get my new card and I also received horrible reception at my house. After replacing the card several times the reception did not get any better.
I was able to speak with one of the upper level techs, and here is what was explained to me:
Cingular is in the process of combining all of it's network with the former AT&T network here in the US. Cingular has 2 networks each color coded "Orange" and "Blue". Cingular Orange is the original Cingular network from the time when SBC and BellSouth merged their wireless units. Cingular Blue is everything that Cingular got through the AT&T merger in 2003. This includes all AT&T Wireless GSM 850/1900 licenses, markets and network assets (i.e. towers etc). When I changed my sim, I also changed my primary network from Orange (registered on my old sim) to Blue. To remedy my spotty coverage at my house the tech switched me back to Orange.
Ever since I've been back on the Orange network I have not missed a call or voicemail, and it's not because I get better reception. I have been testing for 2 weeks now, and everthing is been going great! I have had the USSD service disabled, I just started the service again and will test with USSD on auto, but I'm guessing it will work. I will report back later.
This would confirm that it is a network issue, and not an issue for all users. Give Cingular a call and ask to change to the Orange network, you can always call to change it back!
Intesesting.... In addition to the missed calls and voicemail issues, did you have the phone buttons not responding issues? For instance, with any AKU 3.2 ROM, after a day or three, when I hit the "7" key to delete a message I see the & register on the screen but the phone's not aware. Or I can't hang up the phone and either have to wait or reset ...
tia
Sorry Dr. P, but I never had any of the button press issues.
I have been having this problem for about 6 months. On top of the problems of missing calls (I can call myself and while the landline I'm calling from will ring the whole time, the cell never wakes up or rings) I'm also having problems where I sometimes can't hang up a phone call or when I press a button in the middle of a call (like punching in my VM password) it doesn't register.
I'm also on Cingular.
I'm using a K-Jam using the last K-Jam FW. The only thing I have done is added A2DP using the patch (which I have since uninstalled). I'm not overclocking
If I soft reset my device, the problem goes away.
The only thing I noticed that was odd, is it seems to only happen when I've regsitered on a tower close to my office. It never happens when I'm anyplace else. Once I register on that tower, I have problems until I soft reset my device. If I never go to work, I don't have it. Could be a coincidence but I don't know.
If it's not a carrier problem, my thought is it's a system resource problem where something is dragging the memory down or conflicting.
More info (since I'm running a clean stock ROM):
I'm not running any today plugins that aren't standard (email, tasks, calendar, etc) EXCEPT I am running the wireless hack in the registry where it shows your carrier plus wireless info. I'm also unning PHM Tray Launch and sometimes when I soft reset my device, it won't display until I come back to the Today Screen a few times.
Other than that, I don't have a lot of SW installed on my device.
Hope this helps...
-Mc
I also have the button press issues. I can try to delete a message and while I hear the DTMF, the network does not.
I'm using the standard K-Jam FW on my K-Jam. No customized ROM here with the exception I loaded the A2DP patch.
-Mc
OK, I'm confused with my SIMs.
I have 2:
1.) 64k Cingular with green back. I originally got it from when I switched from AT&T wireless, 2 years ago, January. And it worked, so I continued to use it in my new phones. (Including my Wizard.)
2.) 64k Cingular with blue back. I got this one when I got a warranty replacement phone over the summer. (Says 3G, and has a different arrangement of contacts.)
I have to assume that I skipped over these orange SIM cards that keep getting mentioned.
Any confirmation or further info?
I would say for those who are on Cingular and having problems should post up which Cingular SIM card they have... That may cut through the possibility that the SIM may be the cause of most problems.
I used an AT&T Wireless (Cingular Blue) customer who was given the white SIM card with the black text and blue logo; I used to have lots of problems with reception and dropped calls with it and it didn't matter which phone my SIM card was in. I was told that if I migrated over to Cingular (Cingular Orange) that their new 64K SIM card could resolve my reception problems...
I currently use a Cingular 64K SIM (Orange and white color with 64K text) and it has resolved issues I used to have with previous phones. My unlocked T-Mobile MDA using the Radio ROM included (I believe it's the iMate Radio ROM) with Molski's new AKU 3.2 ROM has had no problems with reception or missed calls.
For those with problems with the ROM, I would possibly try to get a hold of a Cingular Radio ROM from the FTP server. I know that when my phone still had the default T-Mobile 2.26 G3 ROM, my reception was a little bit fuzzy on calls.
blazoner said:
OK, I'm confused with my SIMs.
I have 2:
1.) 64k Cingular with green back. I originally got it from when I switched from AT&T wireless, 2 years ago, January. And it worked, so I continued to use it in my new phones. (Including my Wizard.)
2.) 64k Cingular with blue back. I got this one when I got a warranty replacement phone over the summer. (Says 3G, and has a different arrangement of contacts.)
I have to assume that I skipped over these orange SIM cards that keep getting mentioned.
Any confirmation or further info?
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Yeah, it looks like you skipped over the orange 64K SIM's and got a 3G 64K instead.
Kudos to FunkyB! I always suspected there is something fishy in the network itself. Here is my test result so far:
Molski 2.26 ROM
2.47.11 Radio
No overclocking
Received: 11 calls
Missed: 1 calls + No voice message notification
2 extra findings:
If I press "ignore" immediately after hearing the ringtone, the other end will get busy tone.
If I press "ignore" after at least 2 rings, the other end get the voice mail
Navizon doesn't work on Molski's latest 2.26 ROM! (I found out this when I am trying to run every bit of apps I could find during the testing).
So here is another factor into my testing: Cingular BLUE or Cingular Orange. Is there any easy way for me to determine my network?
PS. I concour to Mr. McHale's finding also.
deathMiata said:
I would say for those who are on Cingular and having problems should post up which Cingular SIM card they have... That may cut through the possibility that the SIM may be the cause of most problems.
I used an AT&T Wireless (Cingular Blue) customer who was given the white SIM card with the black text and blue logo; I used to have lots of problems with reception and dropped calls with it and it didn't matter which phone my SIM card was in. I was told that if I migrated over to Cingular (Cingular Orange) that their new 64K SIM card could resolve my reception problems...
I currently use a Cingular 64K SIM (Orange and white color with 64K text) and it has resolved issues I used to have with previous phones. My unlocked T-Mobile MDA using the Radio ROM included (I believe it's the iMate Radio ROM) with Molski's new AKU 3.2 ROM has had no problems with reception or missed calls.
For those with problems with the ROM, I would possibly try to get a hold of a Cingular Radio ROM from the FTP server. I know that when my phone still had the default T-Mobile 2.26 G3 ROM, my reception was a little bit fuzzy on calls.
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My Sim Card is orange color. Is it possible that Cingular still put you on BLUE when you have a orange colored Sim? I used to be AT&T but I switched my SIM about 6 months ago.
Hello guys, i'm about to pull my hair out from frustration! I have an unlocked Tilt, on T-Mobile running on the HTC windows 6.1 Rom and for some reason i cannot send or receive text messages if i leave a good distance from my house!
Once i'm near my house by a block or so i'll receive and send text messages no problem, but there are patches around my town where i can't send or receive it. I tried switching my Sim card to an older phone and texting where i couldn't text on my Tilt, and the texts went through no problem, i just need to know if it's my phone or the carrier's fault. I plan on testing my Tilt and Wing in the same area's to see if that can shed some light, but i need help!
True2TheGame said:
Hello guys, i'm about to pull my hair out from frustration! I have an unlocked Tilt, on T-Mobile running on the HTC windows 6.1 Rom and for some reason i cannot send or receive text messages if i leave a good distance from my house!
Once i'm near my house by a block or so i'll receive and send text messages no problem, but there are patches around my town where i can't send or receive it. I tried switching my Sim card to an older phone and texting where i couldn't text on my Tilt, and the texts went through no problem, i just need to know if it's my phone or the carrier's fault. I plan on testing my Tilt and Wing in the same area's to see if that can shed some light, but i need help!
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What's the reception like? You might try flashing a new radio, might give you better reception in some patches. What wm6.1 rom/radio are you using?
Currently my Rom Version is 3.03.405.0 WWE
Radio Version 1.64.06.04
I've tried countless rom's at first i thought it was because of windows 6.1 so i tried the HTC Windows 6.0 rom which didn't work either.
If you think i could use a better rom would you please let me know, i'm willing to do anything to fix this problem!
Thanks
i think it has nothing to do with a better rom...its just if the radio is fitting for the location u are at
True2TheGame said:
Currently my Rom Version is 3.03.405.0 WWE
Radio Version 1.64.06.04
I've tried countless rom's at first i thought it was because of windows 6.1 so i tried the HTC Windows 6.0 rom which didn't work either.
If you think i could use a better rom would you please let me know, i'm willing to do anything to fix this problem!
Thanks
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I have several wm6.1 radios in the link in my signature. try them and see what you get. i am using the niki 1.58.16.27 radio. i like it the best, but it really depends on your location
thank you for your reply's i will try different radio's and see which one works best for me, thanks once again.
True2TheGame said:
thank you for your reply's i will try different radio's and see which one works best for me, thanks once again.
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no problem man, that's what we're all here for.
One quick question about Radio's, are they just for signal strength? because i can make and receive calls just fine in areas, but no matter how strong my signal is i still can't send/receive text messages.
True2TheGame said:
One quick question about Radio's, are they just for signal strength? because i can make and receive calls just fine in areas, but no matter how strong my signal is i still can't send/receive text messages.
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well i don't know for sure that changing the radio will make any difference but it might help. you're having that trouble just with the sms huh? and always only in those areas?
Yeah it seems touch and go, in some places it refuses to work, but in others, such as my home it works flawlessly. It even worked on the freeway on the way to Canada, and even in Canada on Roger's network. I tried calling T-Mobile and they thought it was weird how it works in some areas but not others.
True2TheGame said:
Yeah it seems touch and go, in some places it refuses to work, but in others, such as my home it works flawlessly. It even worked on the freeway on the way to Canada, and even in Canada on Roger's network. I tried calling T-Mobile and they thought it was weird how it works in some areas but not others.
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that does seem very odd. hopefully the radio change helps, otherwise you'll have to find someone wiser than me to help you, or just chalk it up to a network glitch. good luck
True2TheGame said:
thank you for your reply's i will try different radio's and see which one works best for me, thanks once again.
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Please make a follow-up post to let us know what your findings are. It's an interesting problem you're having, and your data could be very useful for this and other issues!
So far tried a number of different radios and still haven't fixed the problem, but i've singled out the problem as the Phone, as i tried texting in places where i couldn't with my Tilt, on 2 different phones, one being the Tmobile Wing and they went through with no problems.
I'm gonna try Dutty's 6.1 rom and see if that changes anything, i'm pretty much trying anything that works now.
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So far tried a number of different radios and still haven't fixed the problem, but i've singled out the problem as the Phone, as i tried texting in places where i couldn't with my Tilt, on 2 different phones, one being the Tmobile Wing and they went through with no problems.
I'm gonna try Dutty's 6.1 rom and see if that changes anything, i'm pretty much trying anything that works now.
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So just to be clear, when you use an unlocked Tilt on T-Mobile's network, you have difficulty receiving text messages. But when you put your SIM into a T-Mobile phone (Wing), text messages come through fine? If I understood your posts correctly, and my summarization is accurate, then it sound to me as if the Tilt is having problems accessing data services when its roaming off T-Mobile's network.
I would make a note of 3-5 specific areas where you have problems with SMS (ie 300 Block of N Maple Ave), and then call T-Mobile and ask them where their closest cell tower(s) is/are to those areas.
If my memory serves correct, T-Mobile uses GSM 1800/1900 in the US, but AT&T is still mostly 850/1900, and the Tilt may have issues receiving SMS messages while on a GSM 850 tower. You mentioned that the phone worked in Canada on the Rogers network, maybe they are on 1800/1900. Can someone from Canada confirm this last part??
These are just some thoughts of mine as I mindlessly watch TV, so who knows, I could be entirely wrong...
NotATreoFan said:
So just to be clear, when you use an unlocked Tilt on T-Mobile's network, you have difficulty receiving text messages. But when you put your SIM into a T-Mobile phone (Wing), text messages come through fine? If I understood your posts correctly, and my summarization is accurate, then it sound to me as if the Tilt is having problems accessing data services when its roaming off T-Mobile's network.
I would make a note of 3-5 specific areas where you have problems with SMS (ie 300 Block of N Maple Ave), and then call T-Mobile and ask them where their closest cell tower(s) is/are to those areas.
If my memory serves correct, T-Mobile uses GSM 1800/1900 in the US, but AT&T is still mostly 850/1900, and the Tilt may have issues receiving SMS messages while on a GSM 850 tower. You mentioned that the phone worked in Canada on the Rogers network, maybe they are on 1800/1900. Can someone from Canada confirm this last part??
These are just some thoughts of mine as I mindlessly watch TV, so who knows, I could be entirely wrong...
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Hmmm interesting, now if i informed T-Mobile of this problem is there any way to remedy it without having to go back on a Tmobile phone?
is your tilt set to text through gprs or gsm? that might make the difference..
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Hmmm interesting, now if i informed T-Mobile of this problem is there any way to remedy it without having to go back on a Tmobile phone?
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If it is an issue with GSM 850, then you may be stuck with running cooked ROMs based off of AT&T originals since their network still supports this frequency. To my knowledge there are no WM 6.1 ROMs with an AT&T base currently available.
It could also be a hardware issue... The section of flash memory on your device that stores the radio could have bad sectors (GSLEON3 would be someone who may be able to help you check this).
How did you come to get the Tilt? If you know someone with AT&T service, you can have them put their SIM in and then call AT&T Warranty and get the phone replaced under the 1 year warranty.
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Second thought... Have you tried to force the phone into 1800/1900 GSM through the Band Settings tab under Settings --> Personal --> Phone --> Band ?
Currently it's set as GSM, do you think i should change it to GPRS?
NotATreoFan said:
If it is an issue with GSM 850, then you may be stuck with running cooked ROMs based off of AT&T originals since their network still supports this frequency. To my knowledge there are no WM 6.1 ROMs with an AT&T base currently available.
It could also be a hardware issue... The section of flash memory on your device that stores the radio could have bad sectors (GSLEON3 would be someone who may be able to help you check this).
How did you come to get the Tilt? If you know someone with AT&T service, you can have them put their SIM in and then call AT&T Warranty and get the phone replaced under the 1 year warranty.
Second thought... Have you tried to force the phone into 1800/1900 GSM through the Band Settings tab under Settings --> Personal --> Phone --> Band ?
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Hmm i didn't even think to check their, i'm going to try it right now and report back.
EDIT- So should i be setting it at GSM(900+1800)+UMTS(2100) or GSM(1900+850)+UTMS(1900+850)?
WOW, Finally, thanks everyone for help but forcing the phone into the GSM 1800 band worked now i can finally fully enjoy my Tilt, Thanks once again!
I'm sure the answer to this is real obvious.. But somehow it has escaped me.
I live in the US, Michigan to be exact. Anyways I have a htc 8125 (wizard) and have tried a few different ROMs to increase reception/service..
Anyways a lot of people have told me i'm missing calls so I looked for a more "stable" radio rom and saw a lot of people in the US using the UK t-moble 2.19.11 rom.
important stuff: (skip to here)
Should the UK 2.19.11 work in the US? I flashed it to my device, and it can't find service or connect to a network.
Is there another setting I need to set, or can check?
And last but not least, is there a more suiting radio rom for me?
Any help is greatly appreciated.
edit: i'm on cingular
you need to apply the Cingular fix if im not mistaken, just search the forums for, "Cingular Radio Fix" and you will be able to find it.
Signal quality also depends on the signal reception of a network in some area,some areas have bad /weak signal receptions from networks,try to move in some other areas apart from your place and check the signal reception,sometimes,you may have bad reception if working in basements.It also is very Antenna depended,if the phone is dropped or antenna connection is not proper,it may result in weak/bad signal quality.
Anyhow,you can also try Radio Rom 2.69.11,which is much preferred or the latest version 2.71.11,select the one which gives better performance.Here's the cingular fix attached,install and check if it helps :-
cingular fix
does the cingular fix work on non UK radio? I've been having missed calls on both my wizards. I've tried Crossbow, and currently am running faria crossbow on both. any help would be appreciated.
I have reflashed the ROM on my TyTN II to the HTC Windows 6.1 version downloaded from their site. Everything works OK, except the phone will not accept incoming calls and i am unable to make calls out. Since this the unit has been reflashed with approx 5 different ROM's from Duttys Series (Which i had on when i purchased the unit) but it still has the same issue. It has also now had a different radio version put on and the SPL reflashed. Even after all this it still says no to incoming or outgoing calls. The strange thing is, that it does register on Vodafones network and i get a full signal, but no 3G. The unit is not locked as i have run an unlocker on it as well. I can send text messages OK.
Please can anyone help me with this problem, i am completley out of ideas and unable to use my phone.
Cheers.
Is the Camera working? I know that the tilt has many radios, could it be that you just need to try more of them?
Yes the camera worksfine.
I have tried a few different radios but knowing which one is the correct one is going to be tricky.
Do you know where i can get more of these?
Thanks
Have you tried disabling 3G (force GSM)?
Unfortunatley 3G dosen't seem to be available anyway. (Don'tknow if this is compunding the problem).
I have tried it on GSM but still no luck.
Don't know if the ROM info below will help:
R 1.58.16.27
G 25.61.30.03H
D 3.14.00.00
I have spoken to HTC and they said i need to send it for repair, but i would rather sort it myself. They wont even tell me if it is in warranty!!
ahanson said:
Unfortunatley 3G dosen't seem to be available anyway. (Don'tknow if this is compunding the problem).
I have tried it on GSM but still no luck.
Don't know if the ROM info below will help:
R 1.58.16.27
G 25.61.30.03H
D 3.14.00.00
I have spoken to HTC and they said i need to send it for repair, but i would rather sort it myself. They wont even tell me if it is in warranty!!
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well to be honest with you, that radio you are using won't work with the rom available on HTC website. Just saying.
I thought the rom they provide is accompanied with a radio?
try 1.65.20.29 or 1.65.16.25 or 1.65.17.56
Thanks.
I will give them a go.
also after you flash the radio and you do not have any service go into comm manager and make sure airplane mode is off.
You may want to upgrade your hardspl version as well to 3.28, 3.29, or 3.56
Good luck
OK, next, and probably final, installment.
Have tried flashing to a hard SPL and changing the ROM and Radio to various versions but it still fails.
I have now flashed it back to stock HTC settings as shown below:
ROM 3.28.405.0 WWE
Radio 1.65.17.56
Protocol 25.83.40.02H
Soft SPL 3.28.0000
I have checked the CID and it is a Super CID (all zero's).
I have tried the radios you guys recommended but all in vain.
I have also tried another providers SIM (O2), and the unit would not find the network and register.
I have spoken to Vodafone UK and they say my unit is not barred or blocked in any way (My SIM works in other phones).
I believe i have now come to the end of what i can try.
Does anyone have any other ideas before i turn my TyTN II into a very expensive paper weight.
Thanks.
That radio isn't stock.
You should not be attempting to flash anything without hardspl installed. But you must have hardspl installed if you purchased it with dutty's rom already on it.
Hold down camera button and insert stylus at the same time then report back with what it states on the tri color screen.
On the tr colour screen it reports:
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
Does anyone know if the information supplied below is correct, as i am still having major issues.
On the tri colour screen it reports:
KAIS130
SPL-3.28.0000
CPLD-8
Thanks
OK, i have taken some advice and flashed a HardSPL to the unit.
Since then i have flashed a couple of Duttys ROM's (The unit came with Dutty's) but it's still not able to make or recieve calls.
I think i should try and send it back to HTC for them to have a look.
Does anyone have any experience with HTC?
Thanks
Exactly which of Dutty's ROMs are you running now? And what radio version have you flashed? If you have a ROM/Radio combo that are compatible with each other and still cannot make calls, then it looks like you will need to send the phone in for service.
Before sending the phone in, be sure to follow the steps outlined in the Reverting SPL for Warranty thread prior to shipping it. HTC will check your SPL and ROM version, and if they are not OEM standards, you will be charged for the repair and lose the remainder of your warranty.
Thanks for all your help NotATreoFan.
The unit has been repaired by HTC under warranty. They have repalced the main board in the unit, and it now works fine.
Thanks
ahanson said:
Thanks for all your help NotATreoFan.
The unit has been repaired by HTC under warranty. They have repalced the main board in the unit, and it now works fine.
Thanks
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You are most welcome.