Problems with SMS - anyone else face this issue? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi there
I've been having issues with SMS on WM6 - the OS issue is the only common thread between the two devices I have had trouble on.
It all started after I upgraded my JASJAM to WM6 using some of the cooked roms on this forum. Short Messaging would work for a while, and suddenly go on the blink with all messages you try to send remaining in the Outbox. You also dont RECEIVE SMSs. WHen I checked with the operator, they confirmed that messages are being recorded as 'delivered' on their system.
Funnily, I would start receiving SMSs every time I changed a ROM (and I tried out different WM6 ROMs for Tytn) before it went on the blink again. The problem also occurred across multiple networks when I roamed, so it wasnt network-specific.
The issue was not brought up at the Forum as I was planning to upgrade to Tytn II as soon as it came out. And so I did (upgrade, I mean) last week when the device was released in Dubai.
Surprise, surprise - I still have the SMS issue. I was able to send & receive SMSs for a while, and it went on the blink again after I received 2 or 3 replies.
I'm now convinced that this has something to do with the receipt of Short Messages, but would like to check if any of you have had the same issue.
For the record, I have tried the following to try and solve the issue:
1. Soft reset.
2. Deleting the Inbox folders on my storage card.
3. Turning Push Mail off (I assumed it has something to do with the two messaging streams being on all the time).
4. Clearing all SMS folders of their contents.
5. Turning "Delivery Notification" and "Use Unicode Messaging" options ON and OFF, together and separately.
6. Turning my SMS signature on and off.
In short - I've done everything short of a hard reset. I know the damn thing will work for a while if I hard-reset, but I cannot bring myself to redo all the customizations I have carried out on the new device, particularly the GPS software installation.
HELP!

Just a thought - did you try replacing the SIM card you are using?

dnts said:
Just a thought - did you try replacing the SIM card you are using?
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Its not network or SIM card specific - I have had the same problem with about 6 different SIMs (I travel a lot).

BUZZ!!!
Any ideas, guys?

Are we really talking about a jasjam?
That's not a TyTN II / Kaiser, is it?

rvdgeer said:
Are we really talking about a jasjam?
That's not a TyTN II / Kaiser, is it?
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We're talking about the Tytn II / Kaiser / P4550.
I mentioned JASJAM because I had the same issue when I upgraded to WM6 on my Jasjam.

i'm not being able to send sms with the default program... looking for an alternative to try
edit: installed sms threader for wm6.... that seemed to help, i was able to receive text from skype and from myself... of course the text i was originally trying to send still won't go...

I was finally able to send the sms to the contact I could not connect to before. instead of texting from inside of "messaging" and adding a contact as a recipient, I selected the "send text message" option in the contacts area. oh, the reason I think the sms threader helped pertains to the test sms I sent through skype being received directly afterward. there was a twenty minute gap between send and receive.... it could all just be coincidence.... and works when it feels like....

Figured out the issue - since the problem occurred on my Hermes after I upgraded to WM6 and continued on my TytnII I assumed it had to do with some of my add-on software not being WM6 compatible.
True enough it was a vcard application I have been using for about 3 years now across multiple PPC Phone devices that was causing the issue. Removed the software, reset and my problems have disappeared.
Now I need a stable, light vcard application that I can trigger from contacts. Suggestions, anyone?

well, i think the format i have the number i'm trying to text to is saved incorrectly.... what format works for people country to country?
i'm trying to reply to a norwegian text, and it never goes through. i know can receive them no problem... there is no issue for sending or receiving texts within US... did not have this problem under WM5...

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Anybody else not receiving all SMS with WM5?

I don't know if this is the ROM upgrade (latest Wizzard test rom, but it started before, when I was on the Himalaya ROM), or if it's my phone company, but I'm loosing a lot of SMS: People send me messages, and I don't get them! Does anybody else see this, or should I get my phone company to fix something?
Nope, you broke something. :lol:
The phone company will get very confused if you try to explain to them what you did.
sms reception is a pretty basic function for the phones, so if you're not receiving ANY, then there's a software hook that's not being activated.
Try to roll back to another ROM.
Curious, you say you're using the Wizard ROM, but used the Himalaya ROM before that, yet you're posting in the Blue Angel forum.. Poor phone !
No, I'm not loosing all. I just got two SMS warning me of this reply! Anyway, I use Maimach's test ROM's, and I must say that both have been better than the leaked BA WM5 ROM I used before them. But I do loose some SMS. They just don't arrive, or at least they don't show up.
Not that i recive tons of SMS, but i do recive what ppl send me as far as i know....
SMS receiving problem
there are quite a few posts here about this problem (see posts under my name)
the problem seems to happen on all derivates of the XDA and is network independant.
The problem is linked to the XDA "waking up" and a weak signal. I can recreate this problem at will. The XDA 2i will wake up on receiving an SMS but immediately loose the network. It will re- acquire it but no SMS notification will show and the SMS will also not be received (but a confirmation message will be delivered to the sender). If you send two SMS the first one will be lost and the second one (now that the XDA is awake already) will be received fine.
see if you can recreate this as well
I can confirm it, especially since I hear the SMS arrive on the car radio (static from the cellphone), but then nothing happens. This didn't happen, at least not as much, under 2003SE.

Missing Text Messages

Hi there
I'm having a slight problem with my O2 XDA Stellar in that every now and then, it lights up as if it's receiving a text, and then nothing happens. Each time this occurs I'm actually missing a text message! It's as if the message is received, but is not displayed or saved on the phone...
I only seem to have had this problem since upgrading to the official O2 WM6.1 ROM - however, my mate has a Vodafone branded Kaiser (V1615 I believe) on the original Vodaphone (UK) WM6.0 firmware and he's experiencing the same problem.
I run Kasperski Security Suite on mine which includes an AntiSpam scanner, sometimes this would pop up and allow you to 'whitelist' known numbers. I've entered the respective numbers (even duplicated the entry with a +44 version just in case) and it still happens. I've also tried disabling the AntiSpam and this makes no difference.
It seems to happen about once a day at the moment, and the worst thing is that it's most often texts from the wife that I'm missing (probably cos she texts me the most!) so I can get into a bit of trouble sometimes for not picking her up / doing stuff for her etc!
I was thinking of backing everything up with Sprite Backup, hard resetting and then restoring everything.
Quick edit: Just to specify that this happens to texts from all carriers, O2, Vodafone, T-Mobile, Virgin, Orange, 3...
Any idea's?
Bump!
Has no-one else had this problem and solved it?!
i know this won't solve your problem but try signing up for O2 Bluebook? it keeps a copy of your texts online so you can check there whenever you think you've missed one?
p.dixon0 said:
Hi there
I'm having a slight problem with my O2 XDA Stellar in that every now and then, it lights up as if it's receiving a text, and then nothing happens. Each time this occurs I'm actually missing a text message! It's as if the message is received, but is not displayed or saved on the phone...
I only seem to have had this problem since upgrading to the official O2 WM6.1 ROM - however, my mate has a Vodafone branded Kaiser (V1615 I believe) on the original Vodaphone (UK) WM6.0 firmware and he's experiencing the same problem.
I run Kasperski Security Suite on mine which includes an AntiSpam scanner, sometimes this would pop up and allow you to 'whitelist' known numbers. I've entered the respective numbers (even duplicated the entry with a +44 version just in case) and it still happens. I've also tried disabling the AntiSpam and this makes no difference.
It seems to happen about once a day at the moment, and the worst thing is that it's most often texts from the wife that I'm missing (probably cos she texts me the most!) so I can get into a bit of trouble sometimes for not picking her up / doing stuff for her etc!
I was thinking of backing everything up with Sprite Backup, hard resetting and then restoring everything.
Quick edit: Just to specify that this happens to texts from all carriers, O2, Vodafone, T-Mobile, Virgin, Orange, 3...
Any idea's?
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If you guys are running different versions of the OS, different radios, but the same carrier i'm guessing that it is a network issue and not a software issue.
i was runnin the 6.1 from o2 and its been fine no probs at all.
Hi guys!
Thanks for the replies!
Scotchua - I'm on O2 and my mate's on Vodafone so that kinda rules network out!
O2XDAEXEC - Well that's quite promising, I might try a hard reset and restore and see what happens...
I suspect something may be running in thr background when this happens. I set my mate's Voda Kaiser up for him as he's not too computer savvy, so it has most of the same apps I run on mine. I'm thinking one of those might be running periodically and somehow stopping the SMS being recorded?
Well, tried a Hard Reset and restore with Sprite Backup - got the Mrs to try a test SMS - nothing. And another - nothing.
I got her to do the *0# at the start of the message (prompts a delivery report on O2-UK) and my message came through and she got the report! Seems to have been fine since (fingers crossed).
I know no-one seems to have suffered the same problem but my phone lost another text this morning
Aaaarrrrrggggghhhhhh!!!!!

Kaiser/Tilt doesnt vibrate on text message

Hello everyone,
I already posted a question in another existing thread, but I couldnt get an answer so far.
My Problem is the following:
I have the HTC Kaiser, I bought it unlocked on ebay and put a AT&t Sim Card into it. Everything works fine but it wont vibrate on Text messages. It can play a sound on text messages and it can vibrate on phone calls but not on new Messages. Ive been to the Sounds and Notifications menu multiple times but everything is set on vibrate. I also downloaded kaiser Tweak, but there is only an option for sent Notifications.
I hope You guys can help me!
I have that too!
I have a tilt with the att branded 6.1 rom on it, and it would often reset the vibrate setting to no vibrate on text messages. Usually my own override lasted as long as I didn't reset the machine.
I assumed it was my company's activesync settings, but now I'm not sure. I'm reflashing it and will do the soft reset on the bottom when it says 3 (EDIT - it doesn't seem to work on the 6.1 distro) seconds until it's ATTified, and will try the official patch for the backlight hotfix (plus probably some tweaking from http://www.wmexperts.com/articles/howto/how_to_customize_your_tilt.html ). Hopefully this will fix it...
hello,
thank you for your anwer.
please let me know if it worked aftewr you tried it.
Actually, so far so good, the official re-image with the htc patch and playing with some kaisertweak settings (probably unrelated) corrected the no-vibrate issue. I'm seeing text that I type in the screen on IE not show up anymore though (think typing in to google search and not seeing what you typed), so I'm thinking of trying it kaiser-tweak-less. Also, when sending/receiving email, the status menu at the bottom is more often missing. I'm hoping these issues are all software and not hardware.

Problem Receiving SMS

Hi, I've been having a problem with my HTC Kaiser SMS service
It receives SMS normaly, but sometimes it just doesn't receive the messages. It looks like random... sometimes it receives de message normally, but sometimes it turns on just like it's going to receive soemething, but nothing comes. I've done a test with my operator site sending me messages and most of them are received, but some of the messages simply doesn't come.
My girlfriend told me that she gets the confirmation of my receiving all of the messages she send mt, but some of her messages are not received by me.
is there any solution
I use the original HTC ROM with windows mobile 6.1 (ROM ver: 3.29.707.0 WWE; radio: 1.65.16.25 ROM DATE 05/07/08)
can someone help me
I've tried to hard reset my phone and reinstall everything manually and sync my agenda and contacts from my computer database.
I have the exact same problem!! It doesnt happen very often, but happens once in a while. I am using Anryl's WM 6.5 21725 Final Release, Radio 1.71.09.01 eMO, and is a Swedish TyTn II. I am also using JGui's SMS Reports Eraser. Anybody got a solution for this???
I also have the same problem! Anyone with a solution?
intersting
I thought I was the only one to have this strange and inexplicable problems in my device... does anybody has a solution for it? thanks
Its really frustrating!! No one has a solution???? maybe flashing a new ROM would help???? but i don't want to flash unless i know it will work for sure, coz i got all my settings and softwares customized to my liking. I tried changing the radio, but it doesn't help.
Guess what people?!, It's been a week since I had to Hard Reset my TyTn II and apparently my problem is solved! I have received all sms and mms so far! Maybe you could try to HR and see what happens...
Okay, will try. Thanks Arrgntmnc
SMS is not a reliable service. That's fact.
Even on Symbian or some other dumb phone. You can get a 'false' delivery (some operators although not all, do that, once they sent out, their Service Center will give back the delivered, without waiting for actual handset delivery)
I guess I did it!
Hi, I tried to hard reset my kaiser... nothing
I installed the Phoenix III ROM... nothing
I installed the original HTC ROM... it worked!!!
I've been on my second week testing. I'm doing this. When the sms problem begin Icould see my cell phone ligts up as if it was going to receive something, but nothing happened. Then I turned off the auto turn off in battery settings and I always turn it of after using it... So, if someone try to send me a SMS and the phone light up, I will know. 'Till now I haven't spoted my screen on. I'll test it for 4 more weeks and if it works I will post to you
actually, jsut goto you SD card and there will be a folder called inboxXXXXXX... if you ahve that problem.. just delete that folder.. it fixes your problem.... Try to manually open the SMS messages.. does it jsutn ot load? then that is definatley your problem.. this problem effects most all WM devices...
Teej53214 said:
actually, jsut goto you SD card and there will be a folder called inboxXXXXXX...
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Where exactly is this folder supposed to be??? I couldnt find anything on my SD card.

[Q] Why do my SMS messages get stuck?

Whenever I send an SMS it is as if I can only send 1 per day. Let me explain, I can send an SMS fine but when I get a reply back then my response to it just sits in the outbox.
I exit the SMS program and then I cannot open it again (the option does not respond, as if it has hung, system works otherwise though) so I have to power off the phone, remove battery, remove SIM and then power it on with no SIM. I can then access the SMS program.
If I then delete the SMS from the Outbox and Deleted Items and Sent Items then sometimes (and only sometimes) the notification that the SMS has been sent will magically pop up. If that does not work then I power on the phone with a SIM and sometimes opening and closing the SMS program magically sends it, sometimes sending an SMS to myself fixes it and other times it just does not work at all and is very infuriating.
I am using the stock ROM and WM 6.1 with no additional programs installed.
What can I do to fix this and be able to send SMS messages normally? I even took my SIM out and put it in my old SE phone and I can SMS without any problems, only on the X1
Thanks.
ianwuk
That sounds strange indeed. Has it always been this way or did this error appear lately? If it appeared just lately I would try a hard reset. But if the problem has always been there I would try another sim card (demand a replacement from your service provider). How old ist your sim card? Old sim cards can cause several strange problems when used in current phones. It's easily possible that the card works with your old phone but causes troubles in combination with your X1.
The funny thing is that I took it to the Sony shop (I live in Thailand) and they tried a different SIM from a different network and it worked without any problems. They then put my SIM back in and it worked also.
My question is why does my SIM card not work well with the X1? I have always had this SMS problem since I got the phone (used).
Thanks for replying.
ianwuk
Something like that was happened to me too when I'm still using the stock ROM. Some people said that it is the problem with threaded view in WM6.1. But it ould be because of too many messages in my inbox or outbox. Since I'd like archive my messages, I backed up the message to new ROM and this problem never ever happpened again.
I recommend the following steps to narrow down the reason for this problem.
1. Perform a hard reset (or even reflash the stock rom)
2. Try using the phone on factory defaults (do not restore anything from a backup) for several days
3. If you still experience the problems try deactivating the threaded view for sms
4. Still not solved > order a new sim card
5. Received a new sim to no avail > might be a hardware defect
A few words concerning sim cards. Believe me, they can cause strange problems. There are people that used to have bad signal reception. After they ordered a new sim the problems were gone. Or cases where people could not get a working data connection > new sim solved it.
By the way, you told it in your post too:
"The funny thing is that I took it to the Sony shop (I live in Thailand) and they tried a different SIM from a different network and it worked without any problems. They then put my SIM back in and it worked also."
It seems that your sim card blocks the sms sending process from time to time. So to keep this post short, no matter to what result the above mentioned steps lead I would go for a new sim anyway.
I do indeed use threaded conversations. Stupid question, but how do I turn threaded conversation mode off? This is the first thing I want to try.
Thanks.
ianwuk
I have never tried this before. To look for how to do all of them. Googlefirst.
use registry editor, add
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Setting s\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
binaryvalue set to 1.
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Hmmmm, I was hoping it would be easier than that.
Thanks anyway.
ianwuk
To disable threaded view use SK Tools, Advanced Config or Xperia Tweak. The later two are freeware and downloadable here at XDA.

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