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I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
Drag and scroll.
Highlight and copy text
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Successfully renders web pages more frequently than does the IE - IMHO
herpi said:
I have Opera on my Kaiser. 26 days to go for free.
But I have problems being motivated to buy the version.
Anybody an opinion?
Have no problems with IE till now. But maybe I am missing some important features.
Huib
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Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
EDIT: Update to above entry. PIE now has a fix for scrolling issue - downloadable here: IE Slow Scroll Fix for Kaiser_Tilt.cab
Mike
mikechannon said:
Try scrolling down a long page with PIE and you will know why Opera Mini is better. PIE almost grinds to a halt after the first screen or two has scrolled up.
Mike
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Gotcha!
Tested them both with a longer page and the difference is clear.
Thanks for your input.
Huib
Hi!
can Opera-mini and other apps be run from the memory card satisfactorily?
i.e are they slower?
I wonder if my other applications such as Resco Explorer 2007 and Code Wallter can be run from the card too?
Ofiaich
Don't take what I say as gospel but when I had Opera installed on the SD card it didn't function completely correct - like didn't follow email links correctly along with a couple of other glitches etc.
Likewise I have always been a bit hesitant to install things that operate so cloely with the OS, like Resco Explorer, to the card. They have always seemd to work much better on the main memory. Just my opinion.
Thus I have Opera mini and Resco Explorer installed on the main memory while just about everything else I have on the SD card.
jcrompton!
Thanks very much! Sounds good to me, and I have space in the main memory!
I will get on and download Opera mini !
Ofiaich
Opera Can Handle Regular Youtube!
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile). I say this because i tested it for myself, a while ago on my mda vario or vario 2 (sorry cant remember). What seemed to be a slight problem though was, it ran out of memory frequently (ram) and as such the program would not start if other applications were running in the background.
Opera users on WM6, your reviews and thoughts on this are much appreciated!
gogol;1566087 said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
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jcrompton said:
Do you mean Opera mini or Opera mobile?
looks like mini is for phones not pocket pc's
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I have Opera Mobile... Are ppl actually saying to try Opera Mini? I will if thats the case.. But it's made for phones not WM6 devices.
JB
opera mini? that's a java midlet. why wouldn't it work on the kaiser?
gogol said:
Have you tried "Opera Mini" ?
If not, try it, you will never go back to IE
It is super fast, very compact, and works, also with that neat zoom/unzoom!.
Again, the browsing and rendering speed of Opera Mini is superb.
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OK - so I just figured out how to get Opera Mini work via the Java app under programs -- have you been able to get email links and other http links to automatically be opened by Opera Mini - I made some registry changes to get Opera Mobile to be the default browser, can you get Opera Mini to do that ? (wasn't sure since it is buried as a Java program)
stryker1355 said:
Please Dont quote me on this, but if i am correct, Opera (paid version, not mini) can render many types of complicated flash websites including Youtube(Yes the regular one not youtube mobile).
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Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.
I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....Opera Mobile though is the bomb! I just wish it was free like the Mini version is, but it's good enough to pay for anyway. PIE just is not very good at rendering most webpages.
opera is very good browser but the built in pie some times show websites better than opera example http:\\www.xda-developers.com
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I agree that you wouldn't really want to use Opera Mini on the Kaiser....
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I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike
Does opera support flash videos?
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I don't agree , it's superbly fast, it's free and it has good viewing settings. For straightforward surfing it's fine. I say give it a try you may be surprised.
Mike
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Are you able to "auto" load links like from an email
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Well you asked for it. I am going to have to quote you. Youtube does not work on my 8925 in Opera, neither the moble specific version (says media file type not supported) nor the full youtube site. Ugh.
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I just hit YouTube with Opera on mine and any 'watch now' links open the video for streaming in WMP. Is that normal?
i really can't get to grips with it on WM6.1
love it on my pc....but on the diamond....i hate it and can't use it
anyone else find this....or am i just getting old?
Well I have put Opera 9.5 on my XDA Stellar and my mates Orbit 2 since experiencing on the Diamond - I like it, my mate loves it - guess it's just a matter of taste - what specifically don't you like?
i just can't use
it must be me
Opera on the Diamond = complete pants here too. What were they on
allenf said:
Opera on the Diamond = complete pants here too. What were they on
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thanks god....its not just me then
Nope, given up on it as well. Gmail takes ages to load, and when it does, the smart scaling thing makes it impossible to use.
IE loads in a few seconds and everything looks good.
IE for me
YES IT WORKS FINE FOR ME...IE ALL THE WAY
Never thought i would prefer IE over anything but compared to Opera, yes, IE for me. I do hope however for a Firefox version for WM one day
Me too, tend to use Opera mini or pie, Opera mobile takes too long, takes too much memory, and slips sliding about all the time. Plus, sometimes the text doesn't reflow properly and is 'just' too large for the screen. Very irritating.
Stock Opera is way too slow,is anybody using Operamini 4 ? I used to use this on my Tilt phone and 10 time's faster!!
I use both.. yes mini is faster, but lacks a lot of the funcionality of opera mobile.
omarnone said:
Stock Opera is way too slow,is anybody using Operamini 4 ? I used to use this on my Tilt phone and 10 time's faster!!
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Yes, Stock Diamond Opera is slow and Mini is much faster (I used it as my primary browser on the Touch Dual) but, as previously indicated, has fewer features. I can get over that for alot of browsing but the bigger problem to me is that it is really hard to use Opera Mini's menus on the Diamond as they are so small on the VGA screen (and I chose the option for larger fonts - still too small.)
Yeah, I agree, I used to use Opera Mini on my Hermes device and it was very quick at page rendering, zoom in/out (re-draws) etc. To be honest, it actually suited my needs in terms of functionally. I also tried Opera Mobile on the Hermes and it is just as slow as on my Diamond.
I've not tried Mini on my Diamond (I don't do much web browsing) but would like to try it out.
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Yes, Stock Diamond Opera is slow and Mini is much faster (I used it as my primary browser on the Touch Dual) but, as previously indicated, has fewer features. I can get over that for alot of browsing but the bigger problem to me is that it is really hard to use Opera Mini's menus on the Diamond as they are so small on the VGA screen (and I chose the option for larger fonts - still too small.)
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sorry for waking up the thread; but have you tried Jblend 3.3.5 java? I think the font is OK on medium with that one.
Opera vs IE
I used Opera Mobile exclusively on my Q9H and much preferred it to IE. However, on my Diamond (US unlocked GSM) I do not like the minimal settings control options available for display. That must be an HTC overlay thing linked to the touch. I cannot get the windows in Opera to render in an easily useable format. With IE all the usual flexibility is there and I get excellent "fit to screen" displays in either landscape or portrait (thanks to Gravitator 2)... and it's not too slow.
I know I can zoom with the touch in Opera, but I am having to constantly fiddle with it to get usable displays. Am I missing something obvious? Maybe I should download a stand alone Opera Mobile and try that?
Meanwhile, I await the work on modding TF3D so I can change the link on the slider page to IE.
yea i really do agree with you, considering the power of the device there is no stable + quick way to browse the internet and it really annoys me
This is a bad comparison i know, but i've got an ipod touch and their safari browser is stable + smooth, which is how ours should be.
Its sad to say that even PIE or PIE Plus aren't even as smooth. Maybe opera will get their act together and make it quicker after all they have some nice hardware to code it around!
omarnone said:
Stock Opera is way too slow,is anybody using Operamini 4 ? I used to use this on my Tilt phone and 10 time's faster!!
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Are we talking about Opera 9.5 (beta): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435351&highlight=opera&page=3. It is significantly faster than the one came with the original stock.
There are so many Opera versions out there...
The one I have been using 15316. Before that I was using some other version, I can't remember which.
Anyway, I am tired of this flipping the screen upside down everytime I exit it (in landscape).
Which is the best version to use on a Tilt?
SaltyDawg said:
There are so many Opera versions out there...
The one I have been using 15316. Before that I was using some other version, I can't remember which.
Anyway, I am tired of this flipping the screen upside down everytime I exit it (in landscape).
Which is the best version to use on a Tilt?
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I was using Opera 9.5 beta 2, and hated the whole widget mess that they created, so I rolled back to beta 1. So far no complaints.
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I was using Opera 9.5 beta 2, and hated the whole widget mess that they created, so I rolled back to beta 1. So far no complaints.
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Where can I get it? What is the build number?
Just a tip, build 15233 ripped from the Omnia worked very well in the short time I used it. There was no screen flipping problem, and it was very stable. It also supported zooming by sliding your finger on the side of the screen. I think the real reason I stopped using it was there was some kind of text reflow issue when you zoomed it though. It has no widgets, although it installs a shortcut to the non-existent widgets, so you need to delete it.
However, I currently use NFSFan's build 15316, which I like due to its 10 tab support and speed. However, as a trade off, it suffers from the screen flipping problem if you minimize it or touch the taskbar while using it. And I definitely agree with TelloMan about the widgets, they just waste space and annoy me. Try to keep looking around XDA, especially in Development and Hacking (where I found many opera builds).
Dave
Yeah, NSFan's 15316 is the one I'm using now. The screen flipping is driving me crazy.
It's hard to believe there isn't one decent browser for Windows Mobile. Anyone know what's going on with that Firefox Mobile?
you're referring to "Minimo" by Mozilla. I haven't seen or heard much lately from them. There's some opera builds are fairly close to perfection depending on what irritates you the least amount. Too bad none of them has flash working perfectly yet. If I had to choose 2 browsers for WM, it would be netfront and opera mobile
well... call me heretic, but imho for casual browsing and forums the best one is opera mini and if I need to use my bank's web page or anything more complicated iexplorer is reliable enough. additionally, I have skyfire installed on my memcard just to make sure that I can browse whatever I want.
the answer? opera mini and skyfire in my opinion. I am tired of o.mobile bugs and new builds every few days/weeks.
Actually, I think he is referring to Fennec, not minimo. Minimo was horrible and requires very high specs, while Fennec, which is still in alpha/early beta, is very unstable yet very promising. It will be quite a while before it will be really usable. I would just stick to opera mobile for now. Skyfire works well, but isn't 100% stable. Opera mini is fast, but not full featured.
As I said, Fennec is very promising, but it is extremely unstable and VGA only for now.
Dave
bronx said:
well... call me heretic, but imho for casual browsing and forums the best one is opera mini and if I need to use my bank's web page or anything more complicated iexplorer is reliable enough. additionally, I have skyfire installed on my memcard just to make sure that I can browse whatever I want.
the answer? opera mini and skyfire in my opinion. I am tired of o.mobile bugs and new builds every few days/weeks.
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I agree about Mini i use it for pretty much everything then for sensitive info use Mobile.
"I like fast pages and come from SP stock so used to the Mini approach"
I used to get annoyed by the text flipping, but Manila2D always corrects the screen back to portrait when you hit the homescreen. I've been using that as my bandaid.
Build 15233 is yummy
DaveTheTytnIIGuy said:
Just a tip, build 15233 ripped from the Omnia worked very well in the short time I used it. There was no screen flipping problem, and it was very stable. It also supported zooming by sliding your finger on the side of the screen.
<snippy snip snip>
Dave
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Like Dave was, I just got build 15233 running per the instructions at
http://www.smartphonemag.com/cms/blog/9/tutorial-everything-you-need-know-about-flash-lite-3-and-playing-back-flash-web-videos
and it is by far the best browser experience I've had on my Tilt yet. Flash even worked on http://www.spezzo.com.
It isn't very fast, but compared to IE and the first Minimo, this actually WORKS. I can switch from mobile versions to desktop versions, zoom and scroll, and it uses my IE favorites.
AT&T Tilt
Windows Mobile 6.1 (Build 19199.dutty's)
Thanks XDA good guys!
I've never been that fussed with making roms superduper light, but obviously if stuff can be removed I think it should be. Wondering what you guys think about only having one browser in a rom, eg opera or skyfire. We should do parallel performance tests and benchmarks if possible to find the best.
I doubt IE will fall into this, and it's not that finger friendly or useful. The obvious answer is opera, but skyfire (and others if suggestions come up) deserves a chance.
Wondering whether IE can be easily removed, and whether people would like it removed?
the best browser in my opinion is IE that comes with wm6.5 it is the most stable and IE is the only one that works with certificates.
More is better
Having 2 or more browsers I think is better for those situation when one page is not open with one - you can try another one.
I currently use opera mini for browsing and IE or Opera when not able to open some page properly.
English is not my first laguage so pardon my errors.
With my xperia and Smaberg TouchX, I use only opera.
But i miss the opera build that was with one of itjes old build (5 something?) that has the accelerated scroll, with the finger you scroll a bit, pages moves lot faster... it was very nice one...