SPB Mobile Shell w Kaiser usefull? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I was researching SPB mobile shell because i heard alot of good news about it. Now most of the stuff that it offers is already given from the get go on the Kaiser.
Is there anything else on Mobile shell that is not offered already by the Kaiser that is a must have or very helpful?
While i'm at it, is there any other good programs that you would think are 'must have'?
Thank you in advance!

i like mobile shell and also diary and weather from spb but i am having a few issues. The weather tab is black text and doesnt stand out from the black background. Also, when i have spb weather installed i cannot figure out how to resize the weather tab so diary goes up further. I would just use the htc home screen but the dang clock is too big

Subscribe to Club Spb and you'll find the solution to your black text problem. There's been a release that addresses the problem.
I use the following:
P+ for the battery indicator, safe mode, and PIE extensions. Everything else is off.
Shell for the Today plug-in. The menu thing and wake-up screen are off.
Phone suite as a tab (first) in Shell.
Diary as a tab (second) in Shell showing only calendar, tasks, special events.
Weather as a tab (third) in Shell.
Shell's 'main' tab as number four.
On my Today screen, I have the date, then Shell. Auto-hide is off for Shell, and Diary is set to like 172 for height.
It's the perfect setup.

Nice indeed, i'll use the same setup as yours for a bit and see how convenient it is. (however i don't see the use of installing P+ in order to have the battery bar since mobile shell show the battery icon with the percentage).
Thanks for the idea

Oh, will have to look for that black text fix, that must be pretty new. I prefer keeping Diary below the mobile shell stuff as it's my primary Today screen tool. I'm trying different apps for profiles, the SPB one is a bit too simplistic for me, and mobile shell already has things like photo quick dial.

There is definitely some overlap in features!
Phone suite works for me. I like the auto profiles (meeting marked as busy puts phone in silent mode, etc.) and other notifiers. edit: also forgot about radio on/off's on the plug-in.
I forgot to mention the close button for P+ - I use that all the time.
Used to be a die-hard Diary guy. Now I find myself just using the PocketInformant list view instead. It's easier / more detailed. I could probably remove Diary and miss nothing.
I used the SBSH stuff for a long time, too. Paired with WisBar Advanced. Didn't want to suck up that much memory / CPU on my new device.

The HTC Home plug in is great, but Mobile Shell is much, much more powerful, particularly if you pair it with other SPB products that it can use as plugins. I've got PocketPlus for a range of reasons, and having 4 Mobile Shell tabs + PocketPlus tabs means two to three tap access to everything I want.
I did like the HTC Home as a freebie, but the SPB stuff just goes much, much further.

I've tried SPB Phone Suite and it does not handle the radio/bt/wifi switching well. For now I am trying PhoneAlarm and it seems to be good. radio/bt/wifi switching works correctly. I also like that it is possible to have bt automatically switched on during a call (for using a headset) and then off after the call ends. This is a good power saver.
One question: If I disable the HTC Home plugin from the today screen in order to try SPB Mobile Shell, will the HTC plugin still be running (in the background) in program memory?

I have had ZERO issues with radio control using Phone Suite. Everything goes on and off as it should. Is it possible you're using an older version?

sgt-spam said:
I have had ZERO issues with radio control using Phone Suite. Everything goes on and off as it should. Is it possible you're using an older version?
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No, I downloaded the latest available from the SPB site. I also soft-resetted to be sure. Perhaps mine is a one-off case?
To be more precise, my problem with Phone Suite is that for example I am in Normal profile with Wifi off. I have a scheduled appointment that will trigger the Meeting profile, and Wifi is turned on with the Meeting profile. However Wifi is not being turned on with the Meeting profile or any other automatic profile. It works normally with an explicit manual profile change. Anyone experiencing the same issues with SPB Phone Suite?

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I have a scheduled appointment that will trigger the Meeting profile, and Wifi is turned on with the Meeting profile.
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So under the Automatic:Meeting profile, the selector for WiFi is "On" rather than "Unchanged?" And that's not causing WiFi to go on? I'd e-mail support and let them know. Since it's a new device on a relatively new OS, they may have some fixing to do.
Out of curiosity, I do have to ask why you're having that go on automatically, though. That's going to drain battery relatively quickly compared to standard operation. And when you're in a meeting do you always have a WiFi connection available? I typically don't, but I'm on client sites that either don't have it or have it but don't permit access. And if you're in a meeting, why are you surfing anyway?
I haven't noticed the issue myself. Do you have PA and PhoneSuite installed simultaneously?

PerfAlbion said:
So under the Automatic:Meeting profile, the selector for WiFi is "On" rather than "Unchanged?" And that's not causing WiFi to go on? I'd e-mail support and let them know. Since it's a new device on a relatively new OS, they may have some fixing to do.
Out of curiosity, I do have to ask why you're having that go on automatically, though. That's going to drain battery relatively quickly compared to standard operation. And when you're in a meeting do you always have a WiFi connection available? I typically don't, but I'm on client sites that either don't have it or have it but don't permit access. And if you're in a meeting, why are you surfing anyway?
I haven't noticed the issue myself. Do you have PA and PhoneSuite installed simultaneously?
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I don't actually have the need for WiFi to automatically switch on with the Meeting profile. It's just that as a developer myself I tend to go over an application to see if all functionality is as it is supposed to be. It just sort of 'irritates' me when some things don't work as supposed.
At the moment I have Phone Alarm and Phone Suite installed simultaneously. However I actually tried out PhoneAlarm because of the issues with Phone Suite so PA is not the cause. I presently am trying PS just for the 'Reject and reply with SMS' functionality, and PA for all other profile functionality.

leon100 said:
I don't actually have the need for WiFi to automatically switch on with the Meeting profile. It's just that as a developer myself I tend to go over an application to see if all functionality is as it is supposed to be. It just sort of 'irritates' me when some things don't work as supposed.
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I'm not a developer, but do much the same to make sure that when I do want to use something, I can. I've a meeting coming up, so I'll change my profile as well and see if I get the same issue.
SPB is normally quite responsive to support issues, so I'd let 'em know and see what's what. They'll probably have a good answer for you.

Hi Leon100,
What version of PhoneAlarm are you using. Is it 1.62.
I am asking this because I tried using PA with my HTC Touch but I notice that with this installed very often the Touch fails to Switch On when I press the Power button. Most of the time needs a Soft Reset. I used the PAy Touch v2 skin and I suspect that the PA Task-Switcher is conflicting with the SPB Plus Task Switcher and causing this "Sleep-of-Death" problem. Do you know of a way to De-Activate the PhoneAlarm Task-Switcher.
will appreciate any help & suggestions

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I don't actually have the need for WiFi to automatically switch on with the Meeting profile.
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I just checked and noticed two things:
1. Automatic profiles don't "work" unless you've set the profile to "Automatic" on the PhoneSuite Today screen.
2. Once I did that, WiFi fired up for the profile as expected.
So I guess it's worth asking - did you select the "Automatic" profile?

PerfAlbion said:
I just checked and noticed two things:
1. Automatic profiles don't "work" unless you've set the profile to "Automatic" on the PhoneSuite Today screen.
2. Once I did that, WiFi fired up for the profile as expected.
So I guess it's worth asking - did you select the "Automatic" profile?
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Great, that was it. I thought that since the Meeting profile was an automatic one it would activate by itself. Thanks.
Another question now: Is it possible for bluetooth to be activated only during a call? PhoneAlarm has this facility but I did not manage to find it in PhoneSuite. It would be a power saving facility.

srmz said:
Hi Leon100,
What version of PhoneAlarm are you using. Is it 1.62.
I am asking this because I tried using PA with my HTC Touch but I notice that with this installed very often the Touch fails to Switch On when I press the Power button. Most of the time needs a Soft Reset. I used the PAy Touch v2 skin and I suspect that the PA Task-Switcher is conflicting with the SPB Plus Task Switcher and causing this "Sleep-of-Death" problem. Do you know of a way to De-Activate the PhoneAlarm Task-Switcher.
will appreciate any help & suggestions
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I have version 1.62. What do you mean by Task-Switcher? If it is the profiles that you mean then most of these can be deactivated, but there has to be at least the Normal profile available. The option to deactivate the normal profile is disabled. You can try to deactivate all profiles except the normal profile, soft-reset and see if this helps.

leon100 said:
Another question now: Is it possible for bluetooth to be activated only during a call? PhoneAlarm has this facility but I did not manage to find it in PhoneSuite. It would be a power saving facility.
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Not that I'm aware of, no. But I've always got my headset on and haven't run into battery issues, so I wasn't looking for it.
With BT 2.0, I haven't noticed a drain issue, but then I also always have second battery with me just in case.

I previously used SPB Mobile Shell on my rw6828 and had major battery drain problems (which stopped when it was uninstalled).
Is anyone seeing higher battery drain with SPB Mobile Shell on the Kaiser? thanks

matt_g said:
I previously used SPB Mobile Shell on my rw6828 and had major battery drain problems (which stopped when it was uninstalled).
Is anyone seeing higher battery drain with SPB Mobile Shell on the Kaiser? thanks
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I'm only using the Today plug-in part of Shell, and in general, I have to charge nightly.
Maybe this weekend I'll disable Shell and see how the battery life goes.

Related

Program to switch phone modes

Is there a program out there that will switch the phone from ringing mode to vibrate mode on a timer? Had a great little program for my Nokia N95 that would switc to "normal" mode at 9pm and then to vibrate "meeting" mode at 9am. TIA.
SBSH PhoneWeaver. SPB Phone Suite. There may be others, possibly free ones. The app should integrate with your calendar so that it goes into "meeting" when you actually have meetings.
If you want to try googling, the term is typically "profile" rather than "mode".
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SBSH PhoneWeaver. SPB Phone Suite. There may be others, possibly free ones. The app should integrate with your calendar so that it goes into "meeting" when you actually have meetings.
If you want to try googling, the term is typically "profile" rather than "mode".
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Thx blue, You know mode just didn't look right, but for the life of my I couldn't come up up with the right term.
I have PhoneWeaver, Phone Suite, phoneAlarm and Photo Contacts Pro that all do profile switching I believe. I like the PhoneWeaver the best and all the others are no longer installed.
Funny, the WM6 standard has an "automatic" profile
if you have a meeeting : the phone will be in "meeting" (= silent)
else it will be using the "normal" profile.
Strange that this doesnt exist too on the Professional WM6.
Edit: it seems like HTC tried to implement this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=338515

Advanced Profile Prog?

Hey guys, I'm looking for a profile switcher that has the following:
(a) a today component (preferably just one line)
(b) allows for the selecting of a profile temporarily (meaning after xx minutes it would revert back to normal like MeetingMute did for WM2003)
(c) allows for the automatic flipping of the screen (e.g. car profile reverts the screen into landscape mode so I can lay my tilt on the dash)
I am aware of phoneweaver and spb phone suite, but they both lack the last component and I believe they dont allow for the temporary profile...any one got something like this?
Forgot to mention I need it on a 6.1 rom for Kaiser
Hmm, yeah. Last component could be tricky. I just bought Spb Phone Suite tonight. It does allow for temporary profiles but it works in intervals of 5, 10, 15, 30 and 60 minutes. You can also set up one of the automatic profiles to start and stop at specific times of the day. The only problem with that is that it can only be one specific schedule. All it would really be good for in my opinion is maybe setting it up to be silent during the hours you sleep or something.
PhoneWeaver can rotate the screen
ajmoncrief said:
Hey guys, I'm looking for a profile switcher that has the following:
(a) a today component (preferably just one line)
(b) allows for the selecting of a profile temporarily (meaning after xx minutes it would revert back to normal like MeetingMute did for WM2003)
(c) allows for the automatic flipping of the screen (e.g. car profile reverts the screen into landscape mode so I can lay my tilt on the dash)
I am aware of phoneweaver and spb phone suite, but they both lack the last component and I believe they dont allow for the temporary profile...any one got something like this?
Forgot to mention I need it on a 6.1 rom for Kaiser
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As the title says, the latest version of PhoneWeaver will rotate your screen, but I don't think it allows temporary profiles like your description, (though it is a simple tap of the home screen plug in to change it manually to any profile, then back again).
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As the title says, the latest version of PhoneWeaver will rotate your screen, but I don't think it allows temporary profiles like your description, (though it is a simple tap of the home screen plug in to change it manually to any profile, then back again).
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I'm using PhoneWeaver (the latest version) and if I understand your requirement correctly, it fully supports temporary profiles. But you can install a fully functional demo for 30 days for free AFAIK.
HTH
joshuah82 said:
Hmm, yeah. Last component could be tricky. I just bought Spb Phone Suite tonight. It does allow for temporary profiles but it works in intervals of 5, 10, 15, 30 and 60 minutes.
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It does? I've been using it for 7 months and haven't found that feature :s
I am gonna be looking (currently on 1.3 beta 1), but if you feel like enlightening me....
I'll give the latest phoneweaver a shot tonight, the time I checked it was at version 1.1, so maybe 1.2 will have everything I need. Thanks for the suggestion, I'm still entertaining others just in case cause I really missed meeting mutes interval silent feature which was great if I only wanted to mute it for 2 hours (i.e. at a movie) and wanted it back to normal after that.
ajmoncrief said:
I'll give the latest phoneweaver a shot tonight, the time I checked it was at version 1.1, so maybe 1.2 will have everything I need. Thanks for the suggestion, I'm still entertaining others just in case cause I really missed meeting mutes interval silent feature which was great if I only wanted to mute it for 2 hours (i.e. at a movie) and wanted it back to normal after that.
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The latest version is 1.2.1 (unfortunately only available in the forum not on the main download site): http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showtopic=21055
Cavey.co.uk said:
It does? I've been using it for 7 months and haven't found that feature :s
I am gonna be looking (currently on 1.3 beta 1), but if you feel like enlightening me....
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I'm using v1.2.1 and in the profile definition on the "Profiles" tab I have an "Timeout" option. Meaning I can switch from profile A to B and if profile B has defined a timeout of 60mins it will automatically revert to profile A after that time.
DeepThought said:
The latest version is 1.2.1 (unfortunately only available in the forum not on the main download site): http://forums.sbsh.net/index.php?showtopic=21055
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Many thanks...trying now
ajmoncrief said:
Hey guys, I'm looking for a profile switcher that has the following:
(a) a today component (preferably just one line)
(b) allows for the selecting of a profile temporarily (meaning after xx minutes it would revert back to normal like MeetingMute did for WM2003)
(c) allows for the automatic flipping of the screen (e.g. car profile reverts the screen into landscape mode so I can lay my tilt on the dash)
I am aware of phoneweaver and spb phone suite, but they both lack the last component and I believe they dont allow for the temporary profile...any one got something like this?
Forgot to mention I need it on a 6.1 rom for Kaiser
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I use WinMobileApps Profiles for Windows Mobile v2.0.0. You can set Portrait or Landscape for any profile, and it has a nice simple one line Today plugin. It doesn't have temp profile, but does have revert to scheduled. It also has a command line parameter that can run a specified program or script when you switch to a particular profile. Works on 6.1.
Ok looks like both the WinMobileApps and PhoneWeaver both do all of the above. I ended up going with phoneweaver though because of other options. Thanks to those who were able to enlighten me on the newer versions
ajmoncrief said:
Ok looks like both the WinMobileApps and PhoneWeaver both do all of the above. I ended up going with phoneweaver though because of other options. Thanks to those who were able to enlighten me on the newer versions
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I'm glad I could help!
PhoneAlarm is a good choice too. It does tons of things besides profile switching (repeated alarms of missed calls, sms, mms, email, traffic cost/counter, etc). There is a free version too.
It's really nice but tends to slow the Today screen only when you change/move plugins or softreset. Other than that it's really nice.
You should give it a try.
solution for u
ajmoncrief said:
Hey guys, I'm looking for a profile switcher that has the following:
(a) a today component (preferably just one line)
(b) allows for the selecting of a profile temporarily (meaning after xx minutes it would revert back to normal like MeetingMute did for WM2003)
(c) allows for the automatic flipping of the screen (e.g. car profile reverts the screen into landscape mode so I can lay my tilt on the dash)
I am aware of phoneweaver and spb phone suite, but they both lack the last component and I believe they dont allow for the temporary profile...any one got something like this?
Forgot to mention I need it on a 6.1 rom for Kaiser
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pocketmax.net

Profiles Manager for Diamond

Hi all,
Just bought a Diamond in replacement of my Cruise.
This Diamond is beautiful and easy to use but I have not fount a profile application to use with.
I need a profile application that can control Bluetooth, rings and notification volume in profiles like cars, home, work .....
I usually used PhoneAlarm but with the Diamond and the touchflo screen, it is not possible to add the today plugin ...
So I have tried an application called PZP and the PZP Menu software that I launch using a long press on button. this application is great but eavy and slow to load...
So I am now searching an application to manage my profiles through the TF3D (why not ..) or with a button on the task bar for example.
someone has an idea ?
regards
i have this same question and couldnt find the answer. has anyone solved this yet?
fredlamour said:
Hi all,
Just bought a Diamond in replacement of my Cruise.
This Diamond is beautiful and easy to use but I have not fount a profile application to use with.
I need a profile application that can control Bluetooth, rings and notification volume in profiles like cars, home, work .....
I usually used PhoneAlarm but with the Diamond and the touchflo screen, it is not possible to add the today plugin ...
So I have tried an application called PZP and the PZP Menu software that I launch using a long press on button. this application is great but eavy and slow to load...
So I am now searching an application to manage my profiles through the TF3D (why not ..) or with a button on the task bar for example.
someone has an idea ?
regards
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...sure: Disable the manila plugin ;-)
You could always remap a TF3D soft key to whichever profile switcher application you decide on?
I've tried PhoneAlarm in the past (http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html) but now use Wireless Time (http://freewareppc.com/communication/wirelesstime.shtml) which alters my profiles based on the time of day.
Don't think there is anything integrating tightly within TF3D just yet
I'm the developer of PhoneWeaver (I'll don't put the link to avoid it to be considered SPAM, but it is public that beemer=miguel). I think it is the best profiler program in the market and I can tell you as a secret that as long as I have a Diamond as my personal phone, current version works well on it and next version will be fully optimized
burnso said:
You could always remap a TF3D soft key to whichever profile switcher application you decide on?
I've tried PhoneAlarm in the past (http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html) but now use Wireless Time (http://freewareppc.com/communication/wirelesstime.shtml) which alters my profiles based on the time of day.
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I haven't yet managed to find working documentation for WirelessTime. Presumably you need to keep it running and there's no minimise option. I can't work out the configurable time option under the settings that seem to defaulted to 00:10, but it looks like hourly configurable slots on the main screen. I have searched, but can't find a manual, either on PDAInfo, Google, or here. Any pointers in the right direction?
If you are still looking for a tool to manage profiles, here you have
- Profiles for Windows Mobile
I bought it a year before, and they told me I could get 2 more licenses. I have been trying to contact with them this month (in order to get my second license for the diamond), and no way.
So, in the trial version you would be able to configure and programme 2 profiles. Anyway, if you look around the web...
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I haven't yet managed to find working documentation for WirelessTime. Presumably you need to keep it running and there's no minimise option. I can't work out the configurable time option under the settings that seem to defaulted to 00:10, but it looks like hourly configurable slots on the main screen. I have searched, but can't find a manual, either on PDAInfo, Google, or here. Any pointers in the right direction?
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I have created a link to it that I put in the startup folder so it runs on every soft reset. I never have to open the program and it doesn't appear as a running program.
I've not found any docs either, but I've left the time option set at 00:10 because I wasn't sure what it did! On the main screen I've just highlighted what I want to be 'on' each hour, and repeated that for all the days in the week. Been working fine for me on this basis
HTH burnso
beemerTPPC said:
I'm the developer of PhoneWeaver (I'll don't put the link to avoid it to be considered SPAM, but it is public that beemer=miguel). I think it is the best profiler program in the market and I can tell you as a secret that as long as I have a Diamond as my personal phone, current version works well on it and next version will be fully optimized
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Hi
At the Diamond, how you change profiles? where you connect it to?
I am using Phoneweaver I have added a button to the Phoneweaver Menu on my Programs tab and when i press that i get my profile list ... works a treat
SPB Phone Suite is nice - and if you couple it with Second Today then you can access all of the home screen plugin options for switching profiles.

Custom Phone Profiles on Fuze??

Hello. Here is what I am looking for and maybe my Fuze can already do this, but I can not figure it out.
I would like to have more control of the phone profile options like I used to have on my Blackberry phones. Basically I want to be able to make custom profiles.
For example. With my old phones I was able to use an "advanced" feature in the phone profile section to create what I called a "night" setting. When this setting was activated the entire phone was on silent (texts, emails, etc, everything was silent) EXCEPT the phone, which would ring if I received a call. So it was basically a "phone only" setting. This was perfect at night because I would only receive a call if it was a real emergency.
Or let's say I want EVERYTHING to vibrate EXCEPT the phone that I want to ring. On my Fuze I see how to put the entire phone on "vibrate" or "silent", or "normal", but how do I adjust those profile settings if I want to or create new profiles
Is there a program/script/plugin that will accomplish this? Or can I already do it on the phone?
Thanks for any help with this.
i am looking for something like this too so if anyone knows of a program that does this or can make one that would be really awesome.
phoneAlarm from pocketmax.net is the program you want.
You can create several different profiles controlling everything from ring and alarm tones to backlight level to WiFi status and automate switching between each of them based on time, appointment, location...
Though written as a Today screen plug-in, there is a TouchFlo support mode that lets you run TF as well.
dgduris said:
phoneAlarm from pocketmax.net is the program you want.
You can create several different profiles controlling everything from ring and alarm tones to backlight level to WiFi status and automate switching between each of them based on time, appointment, location...
Though written as a Today screen plug-in, there is a TouchFlo support mode that lets you run TF as well.
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dgduris, thank you for the info. I am going to go check it out now to learn more. I am currently using spb Mobile shell. Does it work with this program?
thanks again for the info. I will report back what I find and how it works!
How does phonealarm support TouchFlo? I used to use phonealarm with my 8525. But with my new Fuze, I've been trying out SBSH Phoneweaver. Which seems to be working well enough. It has a pop-up profile screen menu overlay that I set to one of my buttons.
spb phone suite was the answer for me. really a nice program.
does spb phone suite mess with the Touch Flo? and my manila? i dont want to have the entire SPB thing show up in my home screen. I want to it to be like an app where i can just open it and chang I just want to be able to change profie profiles and then close it again.
I believe it will be in your profiles or setting list and it does not mess with TF3D. It works great with my Mobile Shell touch screen settings also.

Getting Rid of TF3D

This thread is for discussion among those of us TD2 users who have dumped, or might dump, TF3D in favour of either another Today screen replacement or the stock WinMo 6.1 Today screen.
Thus far I'm finding the TD2 a hell of a lot more usable without TF3D. Little things like being able to use a lock password with a 15 minute delay, getting auto-Capitalization when writing texts are good, along with a much faster phone, much less memory usage and....it even seems I'm getting better battery life.
Most of the bugs people are reporting are actually TF3D issues which are resolved by ditching TF3D.
So has anyone else taken the plunge and gone back to the standard WinMo6.1?
I used to installed Ultimate Launch then Spb Mobile Shell in my original Diamond. Now I am using TF3D in my Diamond2. I wish Mobile Shell 3 may upload a more bug free version for the new device such as HD and Diamond2 and I may switch back to Mobile Shell. Perhaps WM6.5 release may change my plan and look forward to what HTC still put their manila on top of those WM6.5 device.
As I said, the thread is for people who are NOT using TF3D.
Personally I think WM6.5 will render TF3D completely redundant by handling the one thing it's good at - gloss.
Another thing I've noticed about not using TF3D is that the phone's response to tilting it to landscape and back is a lot faster.
My case as well: I've got the feeling that TF3D is more like a heavy bag.
As soon as I deactivated, the phone became easier to be handled and plus, presenting extra memory/battery resources as well.
However, a Launcher is very much needed, since neither the TF3D, nor the WM's Today screen don't offer the possibility to get to your action choice with only one button-tap.
Is there a good free launcher which can do that?
cheers!
I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
The start menu seems to appear quicker than the TF3D one does as well.
Another thing I'm liking is the Today plugin for the RSS reader - TF3D2 didn't seem to handle RSS alerts well, when you acknowledged them it didn't take you into the RSS reader.
Best of all though is the fact I can now password protect my phone properly and delay it for 15 mins so I'm not badgered for the password all the time.
I'm finding that I don't need the stylus much either, despite the smaller menus and so on.
I just can't get over the extended battery life and improved memory usage though!
Without TF3D and three apps running (calendar, contacts and file explorer) my memory is loaded only 38%.
With TF3D it never went under 50%.
As for the battery, I can only say that it seems that lasts longer, but I didn't really seriously monitor it.
I was using PointUI Home2 free version on my Diamond, it's great. Less memory usage, and huge customisability. I had 5 "tabs" with the homescreen (see attachment) calendar & tasks, comms, stock, and weather. Worked great.
The default Home2 theme is a little mucky, but there is a huge range of alternative themes. I made a nice black one that suits the diamond.
If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.
chch said:
If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
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Yes
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
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I believe so as this is an Opera thing but I don't use Push Internet at all so I can't be sure
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
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Assuming you mean the flag button, yes it still brings up the Start Menu, but you'll get the normal WM6.1 one, which contains your most recently used apps, your seven favourite apps you've selected to appear on the menu, a shortcut to Settings and a shortcut to all your Programs.
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
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Just go into All Settings, Personal, Today and uncheck the TF3D box to turn TF3D off. Give it a few days of usage before you make your mind up. Don't forget to turn on and customize the other Today screen plugins to get the full experience.
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.
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My thoughts entirely. In a couple of months' time TF3D will be completely redundant anyway.
Incidentally, I've started getting right into Today screen plugins...TodayAgenda is frankly the best app on my phone. I use the Todo (Tasks) app more than any other app on my phone. TodayAgenda allows you to have your task list (with only the active tasks showing, huzzah!) right there on your today screen, so you don't even need to unlock your phone to see what you need to do next! And you can complete tasks and create new ones right there on the Today screen. It's awesome and I can see this becoming my new most-used widget.
Just this one plugin renders TF3D utterly redundant as far as I'm concerned!
The RSS reader has a plugin too, which is really useful.
Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins? I tried PointUI Home2 but that's more of a replacement than a plugin.
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
grgmhlch said:
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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No I'm talking about TodayAgenda - it's a plugin, you have to download and install it. It lets you look as far ahead as you like and does both Todos and Calendat entries (although I only use it for Todos).
Also, try WMP Status 1.0, it shows you on the today screen the artist, album, track and track number that you're currently playing in Media Player. Very useful as you don't need to unlock your phone to see what you're listening to!
grgmhlch said:
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.
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Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.
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Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.
grgmhlch said:
Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.
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No problem. Check out WMP Status 1.0 as well, it's really useful when you're listening to music!
Ok, since I droped TF3D, I also dropped the phone dialer skin, leaving the WM one, which is fine for me but apparently it has a bug:
it doesn't show me the calls&contacts, in its scroll-down field, even though there is some information present, because if I tap, it opens the call's details window.
In other words, it's like a list on which the items have the same font color like the list's background.
Did anybody experienced the same?
Is it possible that another dialer skin would change this behavior?
I put Phonealarm and today agenda straight on my phone and removed TF3D its just too restricting. I can get to everything i need with one click on the home screen none of this swishing fingers to get to stuff.
I really don't know what some of yoy are complaining about...
Not Capitalizing the first letter... NONSENS, when i write a SMS the first letter of a sentence is capitalized..
Memory consumption.......
Why do you think this device has so much ???? Because HTC wants you to run TF3D and still have more then enough memory free to run Whatever app......
I was sceptical at first too. But if you give it a chance you will see that once you have seen every screen (without a reboot) it's VERY fast, and very comfortable...
I am sure i will keep TF3D for a while !
Jim Coleman said:
Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins?
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I used to run 2 Today pages using Second Today.
Weather (SPB Traveller) , CLauncher and SPB Phone (can't beat the options here) on the 1st Today. SPB Diary full screen on the other (2nd) Today.
Custom links to Internet and GPS Navigation complete the productive config.
I travel for business. Calendar and Contacts and the most important.
TF3D Calendar can't make top 20 on market I would say. Contacts in TF3D are death by scrolling (by default). The new D2 Dialer is more productive for contacts than any of the TF3D contacts screens!
I agree that all these other UIs that don't allow Today plugins are missing the point. People want to pay for and use specialist programs where certain functionality is important to them.
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I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
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With a WVGA screen, I really wish there were a work around to be able to place more than 7 apps in the start menu. Can't believe I've never found a hack for this.
Alternatively, I love to be able to route the start button to the All Programs folder but never been able to find this either. Two simple things that must not be easy or else we would have seen them before.
BTW, I unchecked TF3D within 24hrs (a month ago). I use SPB Mobile Shell for the shell. For the today screen (WM 6.1) I use Today Agenda, Google Search, Elecont Weather (paid) or WeatherBugDirect (free). I also run all my tasks and appointments from the traditional today screen via TodayAgenda.

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