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For the lucky people who got their Kaisers already, would you please report your experience regarding the built-in GPS please specially the initial cold fix as it was very slow with the Trinity P3600
TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.
Agreed; and, at least in Google Maps, the position is more accurate than the Ameo.
For batterie Life
Hello,
Can you post hte comment of batterie life when you use the GPS.
For example: the phone
the telephone is load completely (100% full batterie) and when you use 1 hour of gps
how much battery it remains?
Thanks.
Private69.
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Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...
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Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...
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sorry for a stupid question, do u use tomtom 6 to check the number of satellites? i cant get my gps to start working at all.
Wiz said:
TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.
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Am running 6.030 now!
Don't ask me how or why but it's working fine.
Joe
I now verified that on TT6.030 you have to use "Other NMEA GPS/4800Bd/Com 4: and on TT6.032 you can stay with "Internal GPS"
In any case, TT6.032 with "Internal GPS" the fix is aqcuired a lot faster than on TT6.030
TT6.032 is supplied with the TyTNN II on the accompanying CDRom
(TT6.032 incidentally does not allow itself to be installed on any other device, the installer prevents that, but after installation on the TyTN II, the directory can be copied to for instance the x7500 to replace the old installation there, and it will work fine. My first impression is that also on the x7500 with TT6.032 the fix is faster, but I still need to run the "dinner table test" )
its working fine now after i installed the version on the cd. thanks. my MapKing chinese version also working, GREAT!
When you use tt6.32 from the CD, can you use any tt6 map? or is it locked to 1 map only?
Can you have multiple maps with the tt6.32 from the CD?
Can you confirm that the version supplied with TyTn II i.e., TomTom 6.0.32, is a FULL version ? Licences? or is it a taster and you have to pay to register it as a full version? If it is full, does it come with Great Britain Maps (full) or you have to download them? In case of download, is it free?
Thanks
The CD version of TT 6.032 that comes with the Kaiser is as full as an update one would dowload from TomTom. There is no code. There are no maps either. One can download one area map (f.i. London) for free, but no country or continent maps are added. Those will have to be purchased separately.
If you install it on top of an already installed and registered TT6.0x0, it will not ask for a new code. Any old registration will remain valid.
On another note, sitting side by side in my car, I noticed that the x7500's GPS reception was a lot more consistent then the TyTNN II's. The TyTN II may acquire its fix a lot faster, but on the whole, the x7500's reception is better (even though my "dinner table test" would lead to believe otherwise) and more consistent.
While my x7500 had a permanent reception of 9-10 satellites (albeit with shorter bars) the TyTN II was jumping up and down between 3 and 7 satellites.
I currently use my Hermes in an 'in car' holder, with a bluetooth GPS reciever face up in the window. One thing that I would like to know, is that if I was to get a Kaiser and put it into my car holder, surely the orientation of the GPS reciever inside the Kaiser would be 'end on' to the sky, and the satelites.
This must affect performance?
I got mine this morning. Took me quite a while to get GPS working -- had to do a hard reset. It's now working with Route 66, which I used to use on my Wizard.
GPS data seems a bit bursty -- when I was viewing it with GPSViewer, I'd get a bunch of NMEA strings, then nothing for several seconds, then another burst.
Hum..seems to be same issue than Paul from Modaco :
"The GPS bug seems to occur with some applications whereby the GPS 'data stream' will pause for a few seconds at a time, which makes some apps think the GPS has gone away (e.g. Google Maps) and other apps just update in sudden jumps rather than smoothly." ?
Seems that HTC did not fix it in the final ROM.
Do you know if HTC is aware of this issue and plan to fix it ?
Thanks
don't know if i've encountered the bug but here's my situation: i cannot get the GPS Hardware Port (or COM) settings to "stick" after changing them. for example i can change GPS Program Port and it will stick but changing the Hardware Port and clicking OK has no impact. if i reopen the GPS settings, the Hardware Port shows "(NONE)". and this is after 4 hard resets. funny thing is that is worked when i initially set up my device, then all of a sudden, TT6 was reporting "No GPS Device"... it may be time to pack it up and return it for a replacement... any suggestions would be appreciated.
Update: Followed Paul's (on Modaco) suggestion to leave the default settings and now GPS is working.
Which Navigation programs work in landscape mode???
for those of you with a Tytn II, are you able to modify the GPS Hardware COM port from one setting to another? the fact that mine says "(NONE)" is leading me to believe i have a hardware defective unit. thanks.
Kaiser and mapking 2007
ive tried mapking 07 on kaiser and it doesnt work. It juz cannot pinpoint the location that I am at. I wonder if its the software problem??
I installed TOM-TOM from the HTC CD and it has worked with out problems, even installed US MAPS from another Tom-Tom CD I have from the original version. Only problem so far, once I was using it and received an SMS message and it locked up. Had to restart. Receiving email is fine but the SMS message freaked it out.
has anyone had any luck get any of the tomtom plus features to access the internet?
mine just errors out....
can someone try theirs?
nm... finally got it...
signed up on mytomtom.com yesterday...
turned off my proxy settings in medianet...
put my email and password in tomtom when it asks for it...
turned off hsdpa...
logged on to a website via explorer (to get a data connection active)...
then went back to tomtom buddies and tried to login, it errored twice but i pressed continue three more times and it finally logged in...
traffic and all of the other tomtom plus services work great...
now, just need my pals with kaisers to get their tomtom buddies up and running and we'll see if we can track each other...
the kaise/tytn II/tilt/8925 is great piece of kit... and i really like having the gps...
Tomtom traffic
I get most plus services to work except traffic. I have everything in your post without luck. A qustion to tomtom support only resulted in "we do not support you device" answer. Any ideas?
When I fianlly installed the maps from my CD and activated them it started working. It did not work with the free downloaded map.
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I get most plus services to work except traffic. I have everything in your post without luck. A qustion to tomtom support only resulted in "we do not support you device" answer. Any ideas?
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I didn't fill in any email and all plus services work (including traffic) accept traffic cams, which times out when updating. (western europe map)
Tomtom support
I want to highlight something. I downloaded the free map and tried to activate my tomtom traffic on this free manp. This caused the error mentioned in my previus entry. I then tried to open a support case with Tomtom, but they refused to handle it. They state that the Kaiser is an unsupported device. Luckily traffic worked when I installed my maps from the DVD. I don't understand how Tomtom can make a deal with HTC, provide the progam and maps and then refuse to support it.
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I want to highlight something. I downloaded the free map and tried to activate my tomtom traffic on this free manp. This caused the error mentioned in my previus entry. I then tried to open a support case with Tomtom, but they refused to handle it. They state that the Kaiser is an unsupported device. Luckily traffic worked when I installed my maps from the DVD. I don't understand how Tomtom can make a deal with HTC, provide the progam and maps and then refuse to support it.
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Quite agree - I would demand to be referred to their complaints procedure and make sure they know you have a tomtom branded TyTn II installation disk. Also do not assume they know the phone by the name Kaiser. Also remember to mention that the programme is specifically adpted by them to run on that phone and no other.
Mike
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I want to highlight something. I downloaded the free map and tried to activate my tomtom traffic on this free manp. This caused the error mentioned in my previus entry. I then tried to open a support case with Tomtom, but they refused to handle it. They state that the Kaiser is an unsupported device. Luckily traffic worked when I installed my maps from the DVD. I don't understand how Tomtom can make a deal with HTC, provide the progam and maps and then refuse to support it.
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I've just called TomTom with a bogus question (why speedcams wasn't working) and after mentioning TomTOM Navigator 6, PDA, Kaiser and TyTN II, they answered the question.
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I've just called TomTom with a bogus question (why speedcams wasn't working) and after mentioning TomTOM Navigator 6, PDA, Kaiser and TyTN II, they answered the question.
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Maybe the problem could be that I used the EU version of the Kaiser talking to the Swedish Tomtom support, and the Swedish version of the Kaiser is not yet available.
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I want to highlight something. I downloaded the free map and tried to activate my tomtom traffic on this free manp. This caused the error mentioned in my previus entry. I then tried to open a support case with Tomtom, but they refused to handle it. They state that the Kaiser is an unsupported device. Luckily traffic worked when I installed my maps from the DVD. I don't understand how Tomtom can make a deal with HTC, provide the progam and maps and then refuse to support it.
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Interesting, when the FAQ's on their own site says this:
Question
Why is NAVIGATOR 6 support for Windows Mobile® 6 limited to some HTC devices?
Answer
The reason why NAVIGATOR 6 is not supported on all Windows Mobile 6 devices is due to our global partnership with HTC, as a supplier of pre-installed Navigation Software for their GPS-enabled devices.
All works fine on my device....
TomTom Traffic not working
I have installed TomTom into my unlocked HTC Kaiser and it works fine. While, intitially Traffic was working and downloading perfectly well, since October 1, I get connected to the traffic server, but no data gets transferred into my device. (The traffic message is always no traffic incident to report, although there are numerous delays in the New York metropolitan region). I have contacted TomTom customer support about this. Originally they told me the traffic servers were down. Today they are telling me that this is a problem specific to HTC devices not getting the data correctly. Does anybody else have the same problem? Is somebody using the traffic service since October 1 and receiving valid traffic information on their HTC Kaiser devices? I have a version of TomTom that is not made specifically for the kaiser. I wonder if that would work better?
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I have installed TomTom into my unlocked HTC Kaiser and it works fine. While, intitially Traffic was working and downloading perfectly well, since October 1, I get connected to the traffic server, but no data gets transferred into my device. (The traffic message is always no traffic incident to report, although there are numerous delays in the New York metropolitan region). I have contacted TomTom customer support about this. Originally they told me the traffic servers were down. Today they are telling me that this is a problem specific to HTC devices not getting the data correctly. Does anybody else have the same problem? Is somebody using the traffic service since October 1 and receiving valid traffic information on their HTC Kaiser devices? I have a version of TomTom that is not made specifically for the kaiser. I wonder if that would work better?
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It's not just you. Last night, I used my Tom Tom v6.032 (that came with the Kaiser) and had it pull the traffic info along the route I was taking. Got all green. 5 minutes later, i'm in bumper to bumper traffic and inching along (there was construction that turned a 3 lane busy street in Washington, DC into a 1 lane street. While in the bumper to bumper, I had the software update it's traffic info and it still came up all green. I just figured it would only report on accidents and not delays, but evidently i'm not the only one having the problem.
I wasn't getting any traffic updates in the UK, but a colleague with a TT910 was. So I copied tmcodes.dat, traffic.dat from the map & deleted the other traffic file. Ran through enabling traffic again, and it's working fine again.
same problem
I have same problem with Orange provided device in the UK - logged call with TomTom who now say Kaiser is supported. Everything works except for Plus services - get generic TomTom device error when trying to connect to do anything in the plus menu. Navigator 6.
any advice/ideas - tried disabling HSDPA but no difference.
I have had problems with TomTom on my Kaiser, but it is always rectified by connecting it to a wifi hotspot first, with the cellular radio off. Then going to TomTom and running an update, where it will always download a small update of some sort the first time I run it, after that I'm troublefree on wifi or 3G (or Edge, or HDSPA)
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All works fine on my device....
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All is also right for me with my Orange branded Tytn II.
I realise this is an old thread. Also I have posted in detail here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11166165#post11166165
but basically I have installed TomTom 6 on a Kaiser which seems working except traffic reports give error 1506.
If there is a fix for this please advise.
Thanks in advance.
Greetings I've just got a Vario III (T-mobile) having upgraded from the Wizard (Vario I) the Vario I came with co-pilot gps mapping software - now I've got the Vario III i've copied the files across from the Co-Pilot data card to the Micro SD on the Vario III. It's installed fine on to the Vario III but when I try to run CoPilot it won't open tells me "unable to open CoPilot check the storage card is inserted and data downloaded properly" - well the card is in fine and readable.
So my question is, is CoPilot 6 Live compatible with Windows Mobile 6?
Cheers guys
I have copilot running on my TyTN II so it is possible. Works like a charm with the inbuilt GPS.
Anyway back to your problem check you have copilot in capitals as a folder in storage card/ it should contain datacd save and speech. Without this folder copilot will not run. I had the same error as you as I just copied over the program files originally, copy it over and you should be good to go (you will have to reactivate it though). If you copied over the 2577 folder and installed it from there then I cant see why it isnt working.
Anyway hope this helps
I can confirm that Desktopflame has got it spot on, as I've just followed his instructions and installed CoPilot Live 6 to my 6 Gb. SanDisc MicroSDHC, stuck it into my Vario 3, installed, reset, run, activated and taken it for a short test walk!
BTW I seem to remember reading on this forum that a couple of people thought the GPS receiver was rather a weak point, but so far I've had no problems with lock speed, (around 20 seconds and didn't need to use Quick GPS), accuracy, (it had me right where I should've been), or even signal strength, (to the point where I even maintained a lock when I inadvertantly walked into the kitchen forgetting to quit the thing, although I should point out it was less than a minute before I did shut it down so I'm not too certain how long it would have been before I got a little message if, even at all.
So, all in all, very satisfied.
I have just installed TomTom 6 on my HW6510. I can get the sound working by renaming the file BtCoreIf.dll. However I can't select the internal GPS receiver by following the instructions on a previous thread.
I deleted the file Navigator (under the directory navigator) - on restarting TomTom it just asks me for preferences (language, left / right handed etc..) it does not give me any options for selecting the receiver.
I must be missing something but don't know what.
Any help would be appreciated.
Dump tomtom
had loads of never ending issues with tomtom on my 6515. between map errors , no sound, hig system requirements and plain bad programming i eventually followed a complaint thread at pda4x.com and decided to go with IGO. never looked back, even dumped tomtom off my wifes pda and installed IGO for her as well.
Possibly its just the Australia maps that are that bad on tomtom but i find IGO to be a far superior product with greater ease of use and better routing. Easier to install, and NO ISSUES!!!
I am afraid i cant help you. tomtom runs buggy on my tornado and on my old blue angel when i had it , it worked ok, but slow, i got it running perfectly with the 6515 for about two weeks, after which it started loosing the gps.. (ie: had to find gps hardware every time i started tomtom). But note, when it was running it ws sluggish (possibly sd issues).I reiterate what i said in the last post. dump tomtom. on this device igo 2007+ runs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better, much faster response and no bugs. Personally i find the routing to be better anyhow.
PS. Garmin XT runs fantastically. installed since my last post. if one was to install a cracked version, which of course one would not do, i would have to say the process was horribly complicated . But worth it. garmin has to date given me the best drive, plus integration of the garmin desktop map bundles available make it a win win
if you need help with the garmin install for integrated gps units pm me!
Thanks for the response - I will probably change to iGO. Before I do, one point to clarify, you state "after which it started loosing the gps.. (ie: had to find gps hardware every time i started tomtom)".
Was the finding of the GPS hardware an automatic action once TomTom started or was this something you had to force?
nope random, seemed to be tied to the autoupdate feature of the quickgps software on the 6515. if gprs was not connected then somehow it would not go over to old manual sattelite fix and just hung in limbo. if gprs is on or quickgps is in an "updated" state it seemed fine. the quickfix was to go into tomtom gps settings and "refind" the gps each time. damn annoying.
note here.. both tom tom and igo seemed to "lose focus" because of the quickgps app. basically you tap tomtom navigator shortcut.. tomtom boots, but then quickgps kicks in and shifts focus from tomtom and never gives it back until you tap the screen. in the case of IGO this was worse because if you tapped the [backarrow] button on the menu it would tap the windows key instead and the only way to fix that is to actualy start an app on the start bar drop down then kil it and "focus" would return to Igo. Once again only an issue if the quickgps software is not up to date. when i say update i mean that its downloaded the latest sattelite position files, not the actual program version update. I did update the version from ver 1.3 to ver 1.6 did not fix this issue
best of luck
PS I got a p3600i the other day.. lovely phone but sucks butt as a gps (very slow sattelite fix) compared to the 6515 running igo so my 6515 still lives in my car
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nope random, seemed to be tied to the autoupdate feature of the quickgps software on the 6515. if gprs was not connected then somehow it would not go over to old manual sattelite fix and just hung in limbo. if gprs is on or quickgps is in an "updated" state it seemed fine. the quickfix was to go into tomtom gps settings and "refind" the gps each time. damn annoying.
note here.. both tom tom and igo seemed to "lose focus" because of the quickgps app. basically you tap tomtom navigator shortcut.. tomtom boots, but then quickgps kicks in and shifts focus from tomtom and never gives it back until you tap the screen. in the case of IGO this was worse because if you tapped the [backarrow] button on the menu it would tap the windows key instead and the only way to fix that is to actualy start an app on the start bar drop down then kil it and "focus" would return to Igo. Once again only an issue if the quickgps software is not up to date. when i say update i mean that its downloaded the latest sattelite position files, not the actual program version update. I did update the version from ver 1.3 to ver 1.6 did not fix this issue
best of luck
PS I got a p3600i the other day.. lovely phone but sucks butt as a gps (very slow sattelite fix) compared to the 6515 running igo so my 6515 still lives in my car
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Not bad. Good use of your old phone.
Right here we go folks: TomTom 6. Kasier (MDA III) 6.1 (no thrills ROM).
I installed TomTom onto my first Kaiser (standard ROM) no problems and it worked fine until the unit died. I have a replacment device and have requested a new code from TomTom. They have said that the MDA III is not compatible and pointed me to the list of devices which are compatible. What's on there, yes the MDA III, TyTnII etc. I pointed this out to them and they said it was wrong, the device does not work with TomTom and they wont give me a new code until I provide proof of another device (other than the Kasier)!!
Has anyone else had issues or is it TomTom support being lame as usual?
Thanks.
What a load of rubbish. If TOMTOM do not provide support for the HTC Kaiser/TyTN II/Vario III, then why do most Shops (eXpansys, totalPDA, etc.) sell it with a trial version? I'd tell them to get stuffed and send you the code, they're just being idiots...
Wow! They are being incredibly obtuse. It's their compatibility list, it's hardly your fault that it's 'wrong' and in any case I don't think it is. I think you need to speak to a different support person, somebody that knows their arse from their elbow.
Yep, I think I'll give them a call and get it sorted. Watch this space...
Hi,
In France, i encountered worries with tomtom traffic (nearly lost a week
of "subscription fee") because of Tomtom servers failure(guessed, they never admit clearly any reponsability), and followed a kind of farcical exchanges with their support, but they didnt offer me a real kind /commercial gesture(2-3 days of traffic for a week lost !) and they shown themselves arrogant, obtuse, taking me for an idiot.
Not at all paying careful attention to their...paying customers.
Good luck so !
Regards
This just in from TomTom support:
"I have confirmed again with our PDA Specialist and they have stated that there is a huge difference between the MDA III and the MDA Vario III. Since you have the MDA Vario III we are unable to provide you with another activation code."
Odd how they list the TyTn II as a compatible device.
That's ridiculous. I can understand your frustration! Here's the eXpansys Kaiser page, do a Ctrl+F for TOMTOM and it states under the Technical Details:
• GPS
- Internal GPS antenna
- Standalone GPS abd A-GPS mode
- TomTom Navigator 6 Edition (TomTom 6 Taster Edition)
Have you tried showing TOMTOM Support anything like this (which clearly proves that the Kaiser is supported/compatible)?
Yes I emailed them a link to the £500+ package that expansys do with TT6. Lets see what they say this time!
This is a joke, surely:
"The compatibility of your device has been confirmed from our Technical Support Team who are Specialist in PDA products."
Time to phone them and go beserk I reckon!
It's the kind of situation where you want to laugh and cry at the same time. There's not really much left to do apart from argue the toss with them untill they oblige. Good luck and let us know how it go's.
Another update to the saga. I spoke to TomTom supoprt over the phone who were very helpful and said they wold request a change of device code and get back to me. Just got this back from them:
"Unfortunately it has been confirmed again that the Vario III is not on our compatibility list, therefore you will not be able to run Tom Tom software.
The reason your device code keeps changing is due to the fact that device is incompatible.
We cannot change the device code on your account to reflect an incompatible device."
Anyone want to buy TomTom6??!
Finally I'm getting somewhere! TomTom have said they will reactivate my software, but only if I do not request any further support for the device, and do not ask for another code if its doesnt work.
TomTom Navigator
Hi,
The reason they don't 'support' it or refuse to give out the code, is because every time you change the ROM, one that has a new build, then the TomTom server will think you're trying to use their software on a different device and so on, this is especially the case with the TomTom Plus services. I had this problem with my VPA (HTC TyTN) and they would not re-create the code for my TomTom Plus (Traffic Updates). Luckily I knew the old build, so I searched for cooked ROM's that were using that build.
Regards,
Thats a bummer. Why do they tie the code to software, surely they could base it on the IMEI number as that is fixed and does not change regardless of which software you are running.
RE tomtom device code
HI I had same problem with my activation code when I changed rom have found a crack which gives u the code when u try to start maps it gives you device code and u run this software it gives you the activation code. Does it make sense.
RAJ ( I will post this here if needed pls ask instructions are included takes 2 mins)
I am not sure what everybody is talking about
I have ATT tilt with Dutis ROM loaded
and TomTom 6 is working splendidly except may be for the fact that it takes a minute or so to get the satelite fix
but other then that perfect GPS
I would like to find a better software more user firendly
but since I have the maps for US canada and most of europe I gues tom tom is the GPS of choice for me now
Tomtom traffic services
I think the Tomtom support is the worst i've ever seen. For my Kaiser, I know werre the problem is, but don't know how to solve it. When you launch to the traffic information update, the software sends a PHP request to the server including your login, password and this is the problem a serial number that should be your IMEI, but the application sends a wrong number (the first digit is wrong). If I send the same request with my good IMEI through IE I have a message like "enjoy with your promotion". If you know in what file or registry key Tomtom stores this number I think it will not be so hatd to change it to the correct one and find an access to the traffic server.
HTC TyTn2
SPL 3.56
ROM 3.28.406.0 FRE
Radio 1.71.09.01
Protocole 25.75.40.02 eMo
TT6 on Tilt with official WM 6.1?
I did as much searching as I can handle but could not find a resolution. Tried to install 6.032, get a message saying "Unable to install application. Please update your device ROM to the required version before trying again."
I have TomTom 6 v 6.010 installed w/o an issue. I currently have the standard AT&T 6.1 ROM. The only issue is that it takes 3 to 4 minutes to acquire a signal. However this seems to be a product of WM 6.1.