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Hi All,
Could someone please let me know how to use the GPS in my phone. I have tried upgrading the phone to different ROMS that were supposed to enable the GPS and now I am currently using the official HTC WM6 Australia but I cannot get the GPS detected in TomTom or Google Maps. Any help on this would be very, very appreciated since one of the reasons because I bought the phone was because of the GPS...
Thanks in advance
what settings are you using for your TomTom?
Does it say "No GPS Device"?
If it says "Waiting for a valid GPS signal", then you just gotta walk outdoor and wait a few mins...
Note that it takes quite awhile for the first lock.
please state your radio version as well
GPS Problems
Hi,
Windows Mobile 6 Professional (Build 17944.0.3.1)
ROM. 3.00.707.17
ROM Date 06/29/07
Radio Version. 1.38.00.11
I use the "Other NMEA GPS receiver" /115200 GPS baud rate /GPS in COM9
and it says "waiting for a valid GPS signal..." but I have been outside the house waiting for 20 minutes and it doesn't pick up the signal. My TomTom bluetooth GPS used to pick up the signal in 1 minute.
If I get this GPS running, how long will I have to wait everytime I want to use my GPS?
Thanks
Alonso
sounds like a tom tom configuration issue.. .there are threads for this in the forum, cause your radio and rom are up to date.. (although i'd suggest a newer radio to get rid of battery drain). It definitely shouldn't take 20 minutes.. i think within 4 minutes it should be set, most of the time MUCH quicker (2min?)
Where can I get the radios
Sure, where can I get the radios updates?
Are all compatible with all the different ROM versions?
I had similar issue with Tomtom recently. After I have TomTOM software downdgraded back to version 6.010 instead of 6.030 problem is gone.
i9796674 said:
Hi,
Windows Mobile 6 Professional (Build 17944.0.3.1)
ROM. 3.00.707.17
ROM Date 06/29/07
Radio Version. 1.38.00.11
I use the "Other NMEA GPS receiver" /115200 GPS baud rate /GPS in COM9
and it says "waiting for a valid GPS signal..." but I have been outside the house waiting for 20 minutes and it doesn't pick up the signal. My TomTom bluetooth GPS used to pick up the signal in 1 minute.
If I get this GPS running, how long will I have to wait everytime I want to use my GPS?
Thanks
Alonso
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First of all, your GPS device IS detected. There is too steps when Tomtom is trying to make a GPS fix: 1) no GPS device 2) waiting for a valid signal. If you've already reached the second one it means Tomtom can sense your GPS but it cannot aquire the three satelits signal required for a valid location fix.
I would suggest you upgrade your radio. Athough the 1.38 one can work, I didn't have a good GPS with it and it tookme ages for a fix, and sometimes no fix possible.
Besides, that radio wasn't made for the newest wm6 roms.
1.46 will work way better for that.
And since Tomtom is not the lightest application for GPS testing, I would suggest you try other apps such as GPS test (which is free etc.) you'll get a fix quicker, and once you had a fix, all other applications will fix instantly too.
You can try the GPS function in the camera too, which is quite light too and fix quicker than Tomtom.
I have installed Dutty's Hybrid NO.7b TouchFlo Final and its working great . Before installing this rom, garmin xt mobile worked greatly but after installig the rom, i reinstalled xt mobile but doesn´t work and i cant find any satellite.
Anyone can help me with this?
And second issue, how can i uninstall Dutty's Hybrid NO.7b TouchFlo Final or any rom?
Tyvm.
I'm not sure why your Garmin didn't work. I've used TomTom with all of Dutty's roms without problem, except that it takes a long time to find the satellites when first run. Make sure quickGPS is current and then use GPSTest which should find your GPS unit quite quickly. And don't play with the external GPS functions because this may mess-up the internal GPS and require a hard reset to resolve.
You can't uninstall any Rom - this will be overwritten when you flash a new rom.
ach2 said:
I'm not sure why your Garmin didn't work. I've used TomTom with all of Dutty's roms without problem, except that it takes a long time to find the satellites when first run. Make sure quickGPS is current and then use GPSTest which should find your GPS unit quite quickly. And don't play with the external GPS functions because this may mess-up the internal GPS and require a hard reset to resolve.
You can't uninstall any Rom - this will be overwritten when you flash a new rom.
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What u mean dont play with the external gps fuctions? The only way that garmin work its emulating and external gps.
TYVM
The Kaiser uses the internal GPS which will (in most cases) be automatically detected by the software. There are reports that changing the external GPS settings can prevent the Kaiser from seeing the built in internal GPS unit.
I've never used the Garmin so I can't really comment too much on how it is set-up. I do know that with TomTom the internal GPS is automatically selected, or I can select other NMEA device from within TomTom and this also works as long as I get the correct port (com 4 in my case) - but NOT using the WM6 external GPS settings.
HTC Kaiser works great with Tom Tom Navigator and iGo My Way Plus 2006 - software made for Windows Mobile
Garmin software it is for Garmin hardware . XT Mobile it is a first incomplet step for Garmin in PDA an smartphone market.
I'm using Garmin Mobile XT on my Kaiser with Dutty's No.7b and i'm very happy with.
As soon as i have entered my Software unlock key, GPS will be connected without any problems. But without software unlock, Garmin searches via Bluetooth for GPS receivers....
SYMPTOM:
Hi,
After I upgraded to Dutty's V4 and then later on to DCS's V1.5 (both are great ROMs by the way), I am having difficulties using iNavigator (iGuidance) on my Tilt.
Symptom:
When I start driving, the location on the map does not update as I go. It ONLY updates the second that it enters full screen or exits from full screen (i.e. I click on the screen when it's in full screen mode).
The COM port is set to COM4 and Baudrate is 57600. Is it because iNavigator is not fully compatible with this ROM or radio?
BR...
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SOLUTION:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2114969&postcount=25
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2120352&postcount=35
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2114969&postcount=40
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I had this as well with Sleuth's v3 (WM6.1) rom as well, I went back to Sleuth's v1.2 (WM6) and all is good again with iGuidance.
vip_snoopy said:
Hi,
After I upgraded to Dutty's V4 and then later on to DCS's V1.5 (both are great ROMs by the way), I am having difficulties using iNavigator (iGuidance) on my Tilt.
Symptom:
When I start driving, the location on the map does not update as I go. It ONLY updates the second that it enters full screen or exits from full screen (i.e. I click on the screen when it's in full screen mode).
The COM port is set to COM4 and Baudrate is 57600. Is it because iNavigator is not fully compatible with this ROM or radio?
BR...
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My Tilt with DCS's 1.5 cannot run iGuidance 4 totally.
vip_snoopy said:
Hi,
After I upgraded to Dutty's V4 and then later on to DCS's V1.5 (both are great ROMs by the way), I am having difficulties using iNavigator (iGuidance) on my Tilt.
Symptom:
When I start driving, the location on the map does not update as I go. It ONLY updates the second that it enters full screen or exits from full screen (i.e. I click on the screen when it's in full screen mode).
The COM port is set to COM4 and Baudrate is 57600. Is it because iNavigator is not fully compatible with this ROM or radio?
BR...
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Try baud rate at 4800. See if that helps.
I think v4 is far inferior to v3. I have both and v4 is uninstalled. No map generation and compatibility problems.
J
I've found v4 to be OK on Hermes and Kaiser with WM6.0. I've played with baud and it doesn't matter, from 4800-38400 same refresh rate seen.
so, set it to 4800? will try tomorrow when I drive
vip_snoopy:
Don't bother. It won't help. It has something to do with the internal GPS on the Kaiser and WM 6.1 that iGuidance 4 doesn't like. I had the same issue as you (and others). As a test, I paired my bluetooth GPS to the phone and iG4 worked great.
However, other GPS based software (ie Live Search) works fine in WM 6.1.
I cooked my own ROM from Alex's 3.02 package...
shadee
slimshadee said:
vip_snoopy:
Don't bother. It won't help. It has something to do with the internal GPS on the Kaiser and WM 6.1 that iGuidance 4 doesn't like. I had the same issue as you (and others). As a test, I paired my bluetooth GPS to the phone and iG4 worked great.
However, other GPS based software (ie Live Search) works fine in WM 6.1.
I cooked my own ROM from Alex's 3.02 package...
shadee
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so you said you cooked your own ROM from Alex's 3.02 package, is that WM6.1? could you provide some more details about it?
Yes. 3.02.405.0 ROM base (WM 6.1). It is Alex's v5 Kitchen.
I just got iG4, so I never tested it with any of the ROMS I cooked from WM 6.0. I did however, use iG3.01 sucessfully on all of those WM6.0 ROMs.
I was fortunate to have a bluetooth GPS from my old Hermes and Wizard PPC's, and used it to confirm the problem with iG4 / WM6.1 (3.02 ROM) was related to the internal GPS on the Tilt / Kaiser. iG4 works like a champ with the BT GPS, but craps out constantly when using the built-in GPS.
IMO, the built-in GPS is significantly inferior to a paired BT GPS.
And, BTW, iG4 is slower than iG3.01, probably because of the added POI's and the fact the entire map must be loaded on your storage card. I really miss the maploader program from version 3.
Get a BT GPS and enjoy iG4...it's still the best nav software in my book.
shadee
My two cents worth... I have Handymap (South African Version of Papago) and it also was very sluggish, used to update every 300m or so when going at 100kmph. I complained to the vendor, and since then they have released a cab install specifically for the Tytn II.
So it seems to me that the way the internal GPS chats to the software is different than the way an external BT GPS does.
Just to get this thread back on track and see if anyone can help us find a solution. I am also having the same issues that you describe with iGuidance 4. I am able to get a satellite lock quickly, but while driving, the map does not refresh or update unless you tap the screen. The interesting thing about this problem is that the same version iGuidance works incredibly when using a WM6 rom. This problem only occurs when using WM6.1. Additionally, using the 6.1 rom only seems to impact iGuidance and not TomTom.
I did some research on other devices and saw that some people had success using Franson GPSGate, but I am looking for a solution that doesn't require it as it was not required in wm6.
Please do not turn this thread into a debate over which gps application is better or which version of iGuidance is better. Any suggestions as to what may solve this issue would be appreciated.
I found two issued with iG4 and WM6.1
1 - the map gets a fix but doesn't update unless the screen is touched
2 - the TTS in iG4 uses "canned" speech for most commands, and TTS to just say the street names. With 6.1, the TTS engine seems disabled as well.
3 - Just an FYI, there is a reg setting to force iG4 to only use canned speech like the previous versions like iG3 which does speed up the prog. You can also force full TTS which slows the prog more, so the current hi-brid method is a performance balance.
If GPS Gate fixes this, I'd be OK with that for now till a better fix comes along. Anyone have solid information about this? I'm on Sleuth's v1.2 WM6 rom till then, which is a solid rom, snappier than the stock Kaiser which was very good.
My experience with tech support with iNav will be that they will deny the existance of WM6.1 and any issues, then fix it in the next release. That's what they've done year over year. But I still love the prog.
slimshadee said:
Yes. 3.02.405.0 ROM base (WM 6.1). It is Alex's v5 Kitchen.
I just got iG4, so I never tested it with any of the ROMS I cooked from WM 6.0. I did however, use iG3.01 sucessfully on all of those WM6.0 ROMs.
I was fortunate to have a bluetooth GPS from my old Hermes and Wizard PPC's, and used it to confirm the problem with iG4 / WM6.1 (3.02 ROM) was related to the internal GPS on the Tilt / Kaiser. iG4 works like a champ with the BT GPS, but craps out constantly when using the built-in GPS.
IMO, the built-in GPS is significantly inferior to a paired BT GPS.
And, BTW, iG4 is slower than iG3.01, probably because of the added POI's and the fact the entire map must be loaded on your storage card. I really miss the maploader program from version 3.
Get a BT GPS and enjoy iG4...it's still the best nav software in my book.
shadee
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well, although I do have a BT GPS, I'm just lazy to carry another one around since I have an "Internal GPS" for the Tilt. So for the meantime I'll be using TomTom until someone figures how it works out. - Hopefully by then iGuidance 5 will be out
I have seen this as an issue as well...But i actually saw it in one of Dutty's WM6.0 ROMs. I then updated to Schaps 6.0 rom and the problem went away. I've since installed only one WM6.1 rom, the udK 7.0 R1 Vega - WWE | WM6.1 CE OS 5.2.19199 (Build 19199.1.0.0). I was going to try a different rom, but i'm not sure that it will solve my issue after reading this thread.
Rom Doesn't Matter
I've had this exact problem ever since the first cooked WM6.1 ROMs have been made available. I have tried every radio and almost every WM6.1 ROM and all have the exact same problem as mentioned in this thread.
But a Bluetooth GPS reciever does work so I'm just going to go with that for now since I only use GPS in my car anyway.
Also I registered my program with iNav and there are no updates to the software yet. opefully when there is it will fix the problem.
temporary work around
Ok, I've given up searching for now and believe that the only solution is to use GPSGate as discussed in this post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1862272&postcount=4
GPSGate is not free, but there are alternatives to it out there that haven't been tested yet. I did download the trial of GPSGate and can verify that it does work. It's not too expensive either for just the ppc license.
To use the mortscript script that is discussed in this thread, you do also need to download AstroGPSLauncher which can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1870976&postcount=1
It seems as if we are stuck with this until iGuidance can resolve it. The more users that contact them, the better chance we have of getting a fix. However since 6.1 isn't officially released yet, they will more than likely deny the issue.
Heres what iNav support had to say in response to my e-mail
I don't think any of these options will fix the 6.1 compatibility issue...what do you all think?
MY SUPPORT REQUEST...
Hello,
I have Windows Mobile 6.1 on my AT&T Tilt Pocket PC. iGuidance recognizes my internal GPS, but does not automatically refresh the screen. I have to zoom in/out or change something with the screen to get it to refresh. Do you know how I can fix this problem?
THEIR RESPONSE...
There are several possibilities:
1) GPS connection issue : the program is not connected to your GPS and thus unable to update your current position. If it's connected, the arrow/cursor in iGuidance map screen should be in yellow or green. And when you click on view > gpsinfo, you should see the screen w/ NMEA data being updated continuously. If the cursor continues to stay at grey color, this means iGuidance has not been connected to your GPS. If the cursor is red, then this means it has found your GPS but is in the process of locking and searching for satellite signals. The GPS connection indicator information can be found under Section IX step #6 of the iGuidance Installation Guide, and the step-by-step instruction on how to configure and connect iGuidance to your GPS is available under Section VIII step #4 of your iGuidance Installation Guide.
2) Normal program operation: whenever you've just entered an address and click on "nav", the program will automatically enable panning mode. You will need to click on the "X" button at the lower right hand corner to exit the panning mode to see the screen refresh. If you don't manually exit, it will self auto-exit after 40-45 seconds. So if you didn't know how to operate the program and didn't wait for 40-45 seconds, it's likely you will think that the screen is not updating.
3) Program installation: it is also possible that some files were corrupted during installation. You might want to following the uninstall/reinstall instruction in Section II of your iGuidance Installation Guide and reinstall the PPC version.
Tilt is the most popular pocket pc phone used by our customers, so there's no compatibility issue w/ the hardware nor the internal GPS. Most likely, scenario #2 or 3 is the problem.
Has anyone figured out how to get iGuidance 4.0 to work on Windows Mobile 6.1 without spending more money? I know about the GPS Gate trick, but would rather not spend another $20 when iGuidance worked flawlessly by itself on WM6.0.
afgoody said:
Has anyone figured out how to get iGuidance 4.0 to work on Windows Mobile 6.1 without spending more money? I know about the GPS Gate trick, but would rather not spend another $20 when iGuidance worked flawlessly by itself on WM6.0.
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If you click on my link from two posts above, you'll see that they mention a free alternative called GPSProxy
Hello,
Anyone about any problem with the internal GPS in the TILT ???
I found that the GPS update every 2 seconds (2 quick updates every 2 seconds).
I have holux GPS that update 1 time every 1 second.
So this is a problem with the internat GPS ???
thnx
Hi beonfocus,
I think this is not normal behaviour. I have an unbranded Kaiser (german version) and my GPS updates every 1 second. Are you sure it's the GPS receiver itself or is it maybe the software you checked with (only an idea...)? I checked my updating frequency with TomTom and GPS-Dash.
HansOlo
i check it
i checked it with 2 navigation softwares.
can you tell how to check it again ?
thnx
beonfocus said:
i checked it with 2 navigation softwares.
can you tell how to check it again ?
thnx
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I only used the two mentioned programs and looked in the sattelite view how fast the signal updates.
There are other small programs like HTC GPS Tool, GPS Test or GPS Viewer which can be found in this forum.
I never tried them myself because I never had GPS problems until now, so I have no idea if they are useful.
If you have problems finding one of these PM me, I can send HTC GPS tool to you as I stored it on my hard disk.
HansOlo
The Kaisers in Asia come bundled with Mapking but I also have Garmin XT on mine. From my limited experience at least, Mapking is slow to update, while Garmin updates quite speedily.
somynex said:
The Kaisers in Asia come bundled with Mapking but I also have Garmin XT on mine. From my limited experience at least, Mapking is slow to update, while Garmin updates quite speedily.
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I used IGO2006 and i found this problem.
I have i mate jam device and there the IGO work fine.
So the problem in my kaiser and not in the software.
thnx
On most ROMs I had, it was impossible to start IGO8 alone while AGPS was on. The PDA would simply freeze or never detect the GPS.
The workaround was simple however, you had to start the GPS with another software before (and staying in background).
Recently, I found this thread on Development And Hacking and I gave a try. This is a driver enhancement to fix lag. But as a side effect, it prevents IGO from freezing !
I can finally start Igo8 alone, it works great !
(results may vary depending on the ROM - I'm using TPC StockLike 23049)
yes, you are right. my igo8 now starts with a-gps on if i run VisualGPSce first. (i used advanced config to turn it off a-gps a while back)
but what does a-gps do? it was not any quicker fixing. or am i missing something?
on the page you linked, what exactly did you install? there cabs and registry fixes (sorry i am being lazy, there are 14 pages)
I've just installed the cab on the first post (v0.9) and voilà, no registry change needed (those are for fine tuning).
igo8 version?
Which igo8 version you used? I have been using a lot of different igo 8 versions and never had a problem not detecting the GPS. A-GPS asks me weeky to allow downloading the newest GPS data from internet, so I guess I am using A-GPS as well.
The GPS itself is not too quick though, my g/f's diamond locates our position every time way quicker. Will this cab you mentioned speed-up getting the fix?
I used PDA Corner ultimate x-v4 to date, just upgraded to x2-v11.
Altough QuickGPS is asking to download every now and then, that does not mean that AGPS is enabled. Most ROMs I have used (PDACorner's ROMs included) disable AGPS by default.
Any version of iGO I used would freeze with AGPS enabled, while they work with AGPS disabled.
From what I tested, the driver lag fix helps when moving slowly or not moving at all. It doesn't get a GPS fix faster. However, since it redirects GPS calls, iGO does not freeze.
AGPS can help getting fixes in a couple seconds. Diamond has no issue with iGO and AGPS.
Grrrr
Doet voor mij geen donder. Jammer
Didn't do the trick for me. Installed GPSMod 1.39 on Ultimate X-2 V11 ROM on a Tilt (TyTN II) and IGO still hangs on 'Starting'
This is using the default GPSMod Port Com1.
If someone does get this working on a TyTN II / Tilt, let me know