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Well, I am all prepared to buy the Kaiser when it hits the market. I am already looking at the GPS software packages out there for my Kaiser (hopefully GPS is not locked to Telenav). Even if it is locked, I am pretty sure all the good cooks out here will modify the ROM to fix this. What are you all thinking about using?
I've been using Route 66 on my Wizard and it works quite well. DeLorme Pocket Street Atlas is OK but the maps and routing aren't as good.
Lots of people swear by TomTom, and a few reviewers/testers have used it on their pre-production Kaisers. Both semsons.com & buygpsnow.com have a wide selection of GPS software packages.
I use tomtom and find it great.
i think ill also use tomtom. which one is the best?
ive never owned a gps device, so that's the only software ive really heard of..
I've been using OCN6 with my Wizard. . . anxious to see if it works with the Kaiser/8925/Tilt.
Route66 for me. I want my traffic information without having to pay a subscription...
Only thing that could be improved is the frequency of the map updates, where TomTom is the clear winner, but I've had no problems with my R66 map accuracy so far.
regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?
Try Mapopolis...
I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
Mapopolis has a GPS TRAIL option that logs your trip at preset intervals (every 5 minutes, 5 miles or whatever). All you have to do then is use the Location SMS feature of WM6 with pictures attached at capture the places you want. From there, you can create a nice Trip Photo Album with coordinates or send the trip via email.
TEC
I can't really compare software as I have only used Tomtom, but I have always found the program great and have never felt tempted to even try another software package because it has always worked so well.
With my 8525 I purchased the Garmin Mobile 10 which is this awesome little gps receiver that fits in your palm. It's bluetooth and all I do is put the tiny thing in my pocket. It uses Garmin software and works amazingly well. I'm wondering whether this would be MORE accurate than the built in GPS receiver in the Kaiser. If this is more accurate then I'll keep on using it but if the 8925 works just as well then I'll probably sell the garmin.
southy said:
regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?
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u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"
ksjulsen said:
u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"
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Wow great find. The downside to this software though is it requires an internet connection to connect to google when planning routes. So, if you don't have coverage then youre going to get lost.
MDA Vario III
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct
I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*
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I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*
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If anybody wants to send me a Kaiser I will try several packages out and report back in a review format.......
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The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct
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Says here its coming with tom tom taster version
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/wi...tytn-ii-europe-ultimate-mobile-companion.html
I'll be using iGuidance, as it's what I'm using now on my Hermes...
I'll be using TomTom Nav 6. It also has a satelite download but I've never used it.
I just got my TyTN II and installed iguidance 3.0.1.
It doesn't actually start most of the time. It appears to run once after a reboot but then not again.
I can see the exe in the process list but the app is not actually running. or never finishes starting.
So maybe i will give tom tom a try. LOL
Edit: Oh actually i ran it and waited 10 minutes and the program actually launched.. so there are definitely a few issues.
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I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
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Actually, I'd love if someone with a Kaiser would try Mapopolis - just load the Los Angeles, USA map and see if it's usable. My Hermes dogs out completely at high zoom levels - I'm presuming due to only 64MB of memory vs the 128MB in my old iPAQ 5555. (By "dogs out" I mean drag-panning the map is extremely jerky and category searches take near to a minute!)
Mapopolis' POI management is second to none, and it's had text-to-speech for ages. TomTom v6.030 is the latest PocketPC version I've found and it still has no text-to-speech, won't allow you to add your own POIs to the canned categories, etc.
Richard
For the lucky people who got their Kaisers already, would you please report your experience regarding the built-in GPS please specially the initial cold fix as it was very slow with the Trinity P3600
TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.
Agreed; and, at least in Google Maps, the position is more accurate than the Ameo.
For batterie Life
Hello,
Can you post hte comment of batterie life when you use the GPS.
For example: the phone
the telephone is load completely (100% full batterie) and when you use 1 hour of gps
how much battery it remains?
Thanks.
Private69.
@++++
Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...
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Pfff TyTN II has 5 to 7 satellites reception on the dinnertable in the living room where the x7500 does not receive anything. Not bad for a Qualcomm GPS that supposedly is less good as the Sirf III ...
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sorry for a stupid question, do u use tomtom 6 to check the number of satellites? i cant get my gps to start working at all.
Wiz said:
TomTom 6.030 does not work, instead you have to install the TT version 6.0.32 from the accompanying CD. The first fix (after QuickGPS ran) was almost instaneaous and a lot faster than on the Athena.
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Am running 6.030 now!
Don't ask me how or why but it's working fine.
Joe
I now verified that on TT6.030 you have to use "Other NMEA GPS/4800Bd/Com 4: and on TT6.032 you can stay with "Internal GPS"
In any case, TT6.032 with "Internal GPS" the fix is aqcuired a lot faster than on TT6.030
TT6.032 is supplied with the TyTNN II on the accompanying CDRom
(TT6.032 incidentally does not allow itself to be installed on any other device, the installer prevents that, but after installation on the TyTN II, the directory can be copied to for instance the x7500 to replace the old installation there, and it will work fine. My first impression is that also on the x7500 with TT6.032 the fix is faster, but I still need to run the "dinner table test" )
its working fine now after i installed the version on the cd. thanks. my MapKing chinese version also working, GREAT!
When you use tt6.32 from the CD, can you use any tt6 map? or is it locked to 1 map only?
Can you have multiple maps with the tt6.32 from the CD?
Can you confirm that the version supplied with TyTn II i.e., TomTom 6.0.32, is a FULL version ? Licences? or is it a taster and you have to pay to register it as a full version? If it is full, does it come with Great Britain Maps (full) or you have to download them? In case of download, is it free?
Thanks
The CD version of TT 6.032 that comes with the Kaiser is as full as an update one would dowload from TomTom. There is no code. There are no maps either. One can download one area map (f.i. London) for free, but no country or continent maps are added. Those will have to be purchased separately.
If you install it on top of an already installed and registered TT6.0x0, it will not ask for a new code. Any old registration will remain valid.
On another note, sitting side by side in my car, I noticed that the x7500's GPS reception was a lot more consistent then the TyTNN II's. The TyTN II may acquire its fix a lot faster, but on the whole, the x7500's reception is better (even though my "dinner table test" would lead to believe otherwise) and more consistent.
While my x7500 had a permanent reception of 9-10 satellites (albeit with shorter bars) the TyTN II was jumping up and down between 3 and 7 satellites.
I currently use my Hermes in an 'in car' holder, with a bluetooth GPS reciever face up in the window. One thing that I would like to know, is that if I was to get a Kaiser and put it into my car holder, surely the orientation of the GPS reciever inside the Kaiser would be 'end on' to the sky, and the satelites.
This must affect performance?
I got mine this morning. Took me quite a while to get GPS working -- had to do a hard reset. It's now working with Route 66, which I used to use on my Wizard.
GPS data seems a bit bursty -- when I was viewing it with GPSViewer, I'd get a bunch of NMEA strings, then nothing for several seconds, then another burst.
Hum..seems to be same issue than Paul from Modaco :
"The GPS bug seems to occur with some applications whereby the GPS 'data stream' will pause for a few seconds at a time, which makes some apps think the GPS has gone away (e.g. Google Maps) and other apps just update in sudden jumps rather than smoothly." ?
Seems that HTC did not fix it in the final ROM.
Do you know if HTC is aware of this issue and plan to fix it ?
Thanks
don't know if i've encountered the bug but here's my situation: i cannot get the GPS Hardware Port (or COM) settings to "stick" after changing them. for example i can change GPS Program Port and it will stick but changing the Hardware Port and clicking OK has no impact. if i reopen the GPS settings, the Hardware Port shows "(NONE)". and this is after 4 hard resets. funny thing is that is worked when i initially set up my device, then all of a sudden, TT6 was reporting "No GPS Device"... it may be time to pack it up and return it for a replacement... any suggestions would be appreciated.
Update: Followed Paul's (on Modaco) suggestion to leave the default settings and now GPS is working.
Which Navigation programs work in landscape mode???
for those of you with a Tytn II, are you able to modify the GPS Hardware COM port from one setting to another? the fact that mine says "(NONE)" is leading me to believe i have a hardware defective unit. thanks.
Kaiser and mapking 2007
ive tried mapking 07 on kaiser and it doesnt work. It juz cannot pinpoint the location that I am at. I wonder if its the software problem??
I installed TOM-TOM from the HTC CD and it has worked with out problems, even installed US MAPS from another Tom-Tom CD I have from the original version. Only problem so far, once I was using it and received an SMS message and it locked up. Had to restart. Receiving email is fine but the SMS message freaked it out.
I have a HTC Tytn II Pro. Everything works great, except GPS.
The CDs did not have any Tomtom application, but I had my own copies of Destinator, Igo 2006 Plus and Mapopolis, along with Map4Pda.
When I try to access the GPS via any of these apps using COM4:, the machine slows down terribly. I haven't been able to get a fix so far either. This morning Quickfix GPS was downloading fine, now it gives connection errors.
I haven't messed with GPS Control Panel yet, but I am wondering if I have a faulty unit, or does the Tomtom 6.032 unlock/change something to make it work.
Has anyone used the unit's GPS without any Tomtom install first? Did anyone experience any slowness using GPS?
Any suggestions? I tried a hard reset and just installed Map4Pda after that, still no luck.
That strange if you dont have TomTom6 in the Application CD.
It is called:
Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.exe
Check your manual, is TomTom6 mentioned there?
If it is, why dont you contact your supplier and ask?
Btw, I use TomTom6 from CD and it is running fine. Got fix pretty quickly under 30 seconds.
TT6
Seems like TT is not on CDs in north america.
Get it - TT6 works like a charm, fix in less then 7 secs here (use the gps quickfix download) and very responsive - even at high speeds.
No complaints on TT for TyTNII
my app cds had the tomtom app.... bought in vegas (uk plug though)
Please test, some reports the gps lost signal after 1 hour.
nukenine said:
Seems like TT is not on CDs in north america.
Get it - TT6 works like a charm, fix in less then 7 secs here (use the gps quickfix download) and very responsive - even at high speeds.
No complaints on TT for TyTNII
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my app cds had the tomtom app.... bought in vegas (uk plug though)
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My app cd says MEA, so it must be from Middle East/Asia. And manual does not refer to TomTom at all. I bought it through SuperiorGadgets. I don't think it is their fault though, it appears devices from certain regions don't have Tomtom.
With that said, I made another hard reset on Friday evening, first installed Beeline GPS, which got a lock after a minute and QuickGPS was updating fine too. Then I installed my apps, after installing several I checked it again, Beeline was fine. Finally I installed Igo 2006 Plus (June 2007 version) and that is working fine and slowness with GPS is gone away. It makes me wonder what caused it in the first place. I'll install couple more GPS apps and see what happens.
HTC TYTN II GPS (Kais 130) - Got it working.....YES
Hi Guys,
I just bougth this HTC TYTN 2 and it seems ok.
For the GPS, I installed Google maps which did not find any satellites either.
I then copied visualgpsce.exe ( in the attachment) on the kaiser and ran it from there, it got 7 sattelites in less than 10 seconds. after that, google worked like magic. I did not have TOMTOM on my CD either so i could not try it and I am in an area that is not covered by maps from TOMTOM, but i think it will work just fine after this nice warmup.
It seems that the first connection require some clear skies, nice warm up software and some patience.
Thanks and good luck.
I'm in the states, got it from Mobileocity. Came with TT6 on app disc. Works like a charm, finds location within 10sec, no slowdown on system.
Hi
Please test, some reports the gps lost signal after 1 hour.
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No problems here, been working perfectly on journeys of 3 and 4 hours.
Regards
Phil
Yeah, it worked perfectly on my last journey too (each 1.5 hour).
Hi,
this last week I have problems with the GPS. This only captured one/two signals and the quickgps was actuality (6days 23 hours). If I updated the quickgps then it worked very good with 8/10 signals the first time that used tomtom.
But turn off and turn on the tomtom then it didn't work until updated the quickgps.
Please can anyone help me?
Sorry for my bad english.
Regards
umm i tried to understand the best i can....
but r u saying that it does work well when u run quickgps or not?
It works well just the first time when I update quickgps. After close tomtom and reopen it, the GPS onlyu capture one signal and don't work.
If I close tomtom and update again quickgps then works once but if don't update quickgps then don't work well.
This is like after use once tomtom then I dont have quickgps ...
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It works well just the first time when I update quickgps. After close tomtom and reopen it, the GPS onlyu capture one signal and don't work.
If I close tomtom and update again quickgps then works once but if don't update quickgps then don't work well.
This is like after use once tomtom then I dont have quickgps ...
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I usually run quickgps if I start TomTom from different locations, although it shouldn't be necessary, I just do it cause i hate not getting a fix.
Anyhow, what other gps applications do you have on your device? gpstest, gpsrouter????
It is realy weird the diamond GPS
Seems to be Ok with Google Maps
I don't understand what you mean by pour GPS, at my phone its by far the best gps receiver I have ever tried it can compete whit my Pioner buildin Dvd system, the only thing where it lose from build in systems is in tunnels.
Willem
Hi Wilsas,
Which HardSPL do you have?
Mine GPs lags a LOT!!!!....and has a poor precision..
When a pass on a place (for example under a bridge), the gps shows me passing on that place 5 seconds after I had actually passed....
HastaSSSS
GPS works real fine for me
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Hi Wilsas,
Which HardSPL do you have?
Mine GPs lags a LOT!!!!....and has a poor precision..
When a pass on a place (for example under a bridge), the gps shows me passing on that place 5 seconds after I had actually passed....
HastaSSSS
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My rom is the original from when I bought it I just overwrote the second day whit the same rom version cause I couldn't get connected to Wifi
Rom version 1.37.404.3 NLD
Radio 1.00.25.03
My Gps is giving a fix even whit a cold start whitin 15 seconds at most, ofcoarse my buildin Pioner is giving a fix faster but thats not a real satfix it just remeber where it was when I stoped same whitin a tunel it reads through gyros and the distance where it is and not trough the sat signal, I think at least until the European sat sys will be up this will stay like this and even don't now or the European system will change anything to this.
I don't now on which compoort you have your Gps I have it at 4 and coldn't get it on a other eather whil the bleutooth sync wants to use this poort aswel it was a choice or Sync true bluetooth or fast GPS.
Willem
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Hi Wilsas,
Which HardSPL do you have?
Mine GPs lags a LOT!!!!....and has a poor precision..
When a pass on a place (for example under a bridge), the gps shows me passing on that place 5 seconds after I had actually passed....
HastaSSSS
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I have written about it in one post - I have two Diamonds (EU version - GPS get fix after 1-2 min and HK English version - GPS get fix immediately!) Strange, but true! I have also find out that EU Diamond works with SIM card change in f.e. Sprite Terminator, but HK Diamond didn't reckognize that change! All on the same ROM, is it so significant difference in hardware versions?...
What is a HK version?
I have a DIAM100...but I don't know what it means...
I also don't know if mine is a EU version, or a HK verwsion...
HastaSSSS
s1rl4ncel0t said:
What is a HK version?
I have a DIAM100...but I don't know what it means...
I also don't know if mine is a EU version, or a HK verwsion...
HastaSSSS
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It is a version from Hong Kong.
Um abraço
So DIAM100 means Hong Kong?
If so, I bought it in Europe, so it should be a EU version...if I flash HardSPL to allow me to install cooked roms, does it change the DIAM code?
And finally: is having a DIAM100 a good thing, or a bad thing?
HastaSSSS
OBRIGADO!!!!!!
My Diamond once lost the ability to get any GPS signal, but this is how I fixed it...
1. Go to "externalGPS" then "Access" tab then Untick the checkbox then hit ok
2. Turn the device off
3. Turn it back on then tick the checkbox then hit ok
It should now find a signal (May take about 2 mins the first time)
Yeah, but the problem is not fixing the satelites, but the lag and accuracy of navigation...
HastaSSSS
i only get "lag" if the dop values are crap. -> high inaccuracy.
And that usually happens in the city when only a few sats can be picked up (4-5), and they are in a disadvantageous position to each other (e.g. all in a line or near to each other with a very small angle)
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Hi Wilsas,
Which HardSPL do you have?
Mine GPs lags a LOT!!!!....and has a poor precision..
When a pass on a place (for example under a bridge), the gps shows me passing on that place 5 seconds after I had actually passed....
HastaSSSS
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hi!
since i use radio rom 1.02.25.11 the lag is significantly
less! i'll have to investigate on that a little longer (then
perhaps i will start a thread about radio roms and gps
behavoir), but eventually you too can confirm this...
give it a try!
regards,
markusssssss
I am also the one who's shouted this lag and accuracy error a lot of times in many forums but of no avail. It seems there are lots of people sufferring from this GPS lag. Hope somebody ever could find a solution to it. It's really made the GPS use on this phone useless
s1rl4ncel0t said:
Yeah, but the problem is not fixing the satelites, but the lag and accuracy of navigation...
HastaSSSS
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I have a HK version and when first used with the standard ROM 1.34 mine lagged to, the same sort of way - going under abridge for exapmle would not show on TT until i passed the bridge. But since updating - first time round to a 1.37 ROM the lag stopped.
I now use TT with the latest Maps available for Navigator 6 and it is perfect a fix in under a minute...
Yeah okay, but most people with a Diamond don't want to use TTN6. They rather use TTN7. Maybe upgrading to the latest radio available could be an option. I did so, but I have to test the gps in TTN7 to see if the lag has become less or not.
using TT7 2 weeks now without lags. works proper and did work proper with stock rom for me.
Hi,
Does anyone that says that the lag is OK now, Geocache? I would go out tomorrow to buy a Diamond, but I would like to use it for Geocaching and I've read on other threads that it is no good because of the lag and accuracy.
Thanks
Dean
TheWizzard2203 said:
Yeah okay, but most people with a Diamond don't want to use TTN6. They rather use TTN7. Maybe upgrading to the latest radio available could be an option. I did so, but I have to test the gps in TTN7 to see if the lag has become less or not.
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I have tested this with a friends device using TT7 aswell and the same version maps - all is OK on his device too