Bought an ATT Tilt a week ago, unlocked it, got it working just fine with 4 different GPS apps including Mapopolis and Anywhere Map.
Suddenly, yesterday, I fire up the auto map app (Mapopolis) and the GPS icon (brown) flashes then the thing reboots. And again and again no matter what GPS app or utility I use. After wasting a day fooling with it, I did a hard reset and got rid of the crapware. And it continues to reboot anytime the GPS is accessed.
Any help? Never dropped it, its brand new. I never saw it reboot on its own before.
Thanks
Might have stumbled on a "fix" doing some further reading. QuickGPS was expired and I coudn't get it to re-connect. Did the below and it seems to now work (still aquiring Sats as I write but at least its not rebooting.) Odd!!
Originally Posted by Mr.Clark
The problem I've seen with QuickGPS is that it doesn't initiate a data connection.
If you've already got one, it works fine, but it won't "dial up" (for want of a better term) to the internet itself.
Open IE or Opera, go to Google.com then open QuickGPS and hit Connect. Works every time for me.
BINGO, worked for me. Just starting an internet connection (WiFi) alone won't do it but open IE first and go somewhere and now it works!
Help! Only had this a couple of weeks and it's starting to drive me nuts. When I first got it, Google Maps had no trouble finding satellites but now it comes up with 'No GPS receiver was found' screen over and over. I did switch QuickGPS off for a bit and I think it's since then it's not worked right. Does anyone have any idea what I can do? It's a UK branded Orange TytnII (Kaiser).
*I really want to start messing about with ROMs too but have a Mac and don't think there's a way I can is there?
Have you tried going outside? Line of sight sometimes will work!
Yes I have, hasn't worked. It wasn't working when I was walking round London yesterday but I assumed the tall buildings were causing the problem but now I'm in exactly the same place I was when I first got the phone and then it was was picking up 4/5 satellites. Now it's just coming up with a screen telling me I have no GPS receiver. Could the receiver in the phone have been damaged? I haven't dropped it or anything and have been pretty careful with it.
Reinstalled Google Maps. Now seems to be working. Grrr. Sorry to have bothered everyone.
Read this thread for a possible fix; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=333275
You probably need to run quick GPS and get the download.
I have this set automatically now and it usually downloads weekly. I often wonder what I'd do if I needed the GPS somewhere where there was no phone signal to download the updates!
Hi, I had the same problem, and all apps GPS don't work !
Hard reset no change the problem.
I sent htc support, Finally they changed the motherboard !
thinking about utilizing my kaiser's gps for road trip, i figure i'd ask for advice before jumped in buying gps software (since i don't have a guarantee to be able to load google map at all times). let me hear it if you've done road trips using kaiser as your main gps device & how reliable is it - of course it'll run on car's power plug - does it get overheat or have any issue receiving call when gps software is active etc?
thanks in advance guys.
I use AT&T's Telenav and have made trips with the Tilt running for up to 5-6 hours at a stretch, no problems. I just have it in a Brodit car mount, use a car charger and use my Jabra BT8040 for the street names and voice directions when I need it. Since Telenav is using a data connection, it drops out if a call comes in on an EDGE connection. Keeps going fine if in a 3G area though.
i use kaiser with garmin and adria route maps and everything works fine. no overheating, no problem with calls. you just have to make sure to get the right maps for your needs (up to date, covering your area of interests...)
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i use my tilt as my only GPS, and with the tomtom6 software loaded onto it, its taken me hundreds of miles all over the US with no issues. I recommend using this and not buying another GPS, especially since the tomtom software makes it identical to any other tomtom device
It's nice to have google maps, windows live installed to use when you can, but it's hard to beat something like TomTom or iGo8 if you want to splurge..
Definitely recommend getting a car mount (that you can swivel!) and a car charger and your battery gets chewed up QUICK when using GPS...
Enjoy!
-RT
i used it at a last min, with google maps on a trip, of course having gps and edge on at the same time kills the battery, but having it charge in car was fine it worked well, just wish i could have faster then edge connection with us tmo
Tomtom Navigator worked reliably under my TyTN IIs original WM 6.0 firmware (allbeit a little like watching a slideshow at times) but now under HTCs latest 6.1 release, GPS performance is very erratic and it takes ages to get a fix in most cases. HTC needs to come up with a fix to this issue so I suggest you steer clear of the HTC WM 6.1 update until it's been resolved.
It's perfectly suitable for this kind of use.
Don't forget about car charger, I've bought mine off eBay for silly price
Yep, I'll throw in my $.02 too. Great for road navigation, sucks for much else. It's off by 15-20 feet at all times, jumps around randomly, and altitude is always WAY off, but none of that matters with road nav software as they "snap to road".
There *is* the occational time I'll have TomTom suddenly think I'm on a nearby road, like if two are closely parallelling each other (say, interstate and small road beside it) and once or twice I've had it think I'm on a cross street I'm approaching, but rarely is it more than you might see it blip over to the wrong street, start recalculating, then jump back.
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here is my 2 cents having just used it on a 1500 mile week-long roadtrip a week ago. simply, it was as awesome as it can get. i had tomtom 6 with the latest US-Canada map on my 2GB microSD.
before setting sail, i saved all the addresses i wanted to go to as FAVs, and just went off, no problems getting a signal, and the signal was accurate enough for driving.
when i needed to look for a POI that TomTom didn't have, I would just start Google Maps for Mobile and find it. I was also running Mologogo to allow family to know where I was. GPS photos where also nice to have.
as others pointed out, a windshield mount and a car charger are musts.
the only problem I had (couldn't explain, but didn't cause enough problems to research) was that it would heat up really good (of course being exposed to direct sun light helped) that it would start flashing red while being charged, and i had to stop charging to get it back to flashing green. I then found that brining it next to the AC actually helped in keeping it charging.
ya ill 2nd that it does get really hot while using gps and internet while trying to charge it... but i only used it for short times 20-30min and when you have a super long road u dont need it, i dont use it to tell me every direction i was a copilot
i think most gps sucks at accurate position or even giving live directions, thats why i dont use it in such a way, only to see the map and were I am in relation to the directions.
I think the GPS is very accurate. With Google Maps, if I stand at the end of my driveway and zoom into the sat view of my home, it's got me pegged to within a meter or so, easily (even clearly indicating which side of the driveway I'm on, and it's only about 13m wide at that point). And, as soon as I start walking, "my location" starts moving along too.
I use it with Garmin Mobile XT (GMXT) software for road navigation and it works quite well. Must have a car charget as it drains battery a lot. GPS is sometimes slow to lock (even with QuickGPS data), so you can't expect to turn it on and be navigating within 30 seconds everytime. Other than it is perfect - only one device to carry. Good maps, voice directions etc...
My suggestion is to get a entry level Garmin or Tomtom automotive gps cost less than $130 and is designed to be used for extended period of time repeatedly and have maps of entire North America.
In my opinion phones are not designed to be running for so many hours constantly, some inner parts might be aging (pcb boards becomes dark and burned looking) without you knowing it. Especially in the hotter areas where the dashboard temperature could reach 160 degrees easily since it's constantly exposed to the sun. GPS on the phone works as a backup when you are far from your car in a totally strange place. Automotive GPS are designed to be used in such harsh conditions.
Also consider the network coverage of the phones if you are using one of the free services, as when you are out of the internet service, you can't get any map update...... So in the long run an entry level GPS w/maps saves you more money, since they cost about same as a piece of software for your phone that probably does not get updated as often as each company's regular automotive GPS products.
So what I am trying to say is:
Save your delicate Tilt/TyTN II, and get a GPS! You can find discontinued Garmin GPS products on eBay for heck cheap, for example the Garmin C320 that my girlfriend still uses since I bought it years ago, and gave to her when I upgraded to C580, goes for around $60-70 and it's one of the best GPS I've used.
just went to georgia and back with garmin mobile xt + 2009 maps installed, no problems at all.
I have tried it on long journeys using tomtom, route66, garminxt and miomaps.
Works fine using any of this s/w. I found the new Diamond ROMs slowed tomtomt down when getting a satellite fix. It took at least 10 minutes at the best of times. I have gone back to one of Duttys 6.1 ROMS and it is all working fine again.
I use GPS tuner V5.0 for GPS, you can create your own maps, waypoints etc. No tomtom in this part of the world, but Mapking works good too.
Be sure to have a charger nearby though...
Thank you guys for the advice
It's awesome to hear from your experiences in a way that gives me an idea how much should I expect from my Kaiser, well I guess I'll try to use it only when I need directions the most (i.e. within cities) as opposed to "continue on highway XYZ for 80 miles, drive straight ahead, straight ahead, 79 more miles c'mon you can do it, ...."
and thank you guys also to be kind enough providing some info for the GPS software, I'm entirely grateful
If you're taking a long trips over 1 hour DO NOT USE GOOGLE MAPS!!! even if you have a car charger. Google maps requires a constant data connection to update its maps on top of keeping the screen on and powering the internal GPS receiver. The drain is more than the car charger can handle. The phone will get hot with in 30 minutes of google maps usage. If you dont have a car charger Google Maps will kill your fully charged standard battery less than 4 hours if you're on EDGE, less than 3 hours if you're on 3G. Stay away from Google Maps for long trips. The only time I use Google Maps on a long trip is to check for traffic.
A dedicated GPS navigation software like TomTom, iGuidance, Destinator, Garmin mobile work best for long trips. The drain is minimal. The car charger will handle TomTom, iGuidance or Destinator for hours and hours without any problem. The phone doesnt get as hot plus it actually charges the phone. As for its actual useage and practicality, TomTom software is just as good as the dedicated TomTom. The interface is the same. High end TomTom may have more options but that's about it. It gets you from point A to point B. It may not take you on a route that you like but it'll get you there. It automatically reroutes and recalculates if you miss a turn. Like any other GPS device, if you need to change destination or search for POI hand it to the passanger and let them do it.
I'd say you need a better car charger. I use AT&T Nav, which also uses a constant data connection for maps and real time traffic updates. When I've used mine for whole days of constant use (ferrying people around D.C. and greater area one weekend for a work function), my car charger managed to keep it fully charged the whole time (and I made/received quite a few calls and emails those days too, plus did a fair bit of web surfing).
Sure, the back got a little warm, but honestly, I feel the device is not harmed by it - in fact, I'd argue it's designed for such use. just like people who use wifi for long periods or who get tons of push mail daily and so forth. Heck, mine gets pretty warm just using wifi when updating my RSS and podcast feeds every day. Does it have thermal overload protection anyway? I would not be surprised if it did.
The screen LEDs are not likely going to burn out from constant use in the lifetime of the device (which for even the most infrequent user won't be more then several or so years). You figure an LED should be good for at least, say 50,000 hours (?) which is over 10 years if on for 12hrs every single day.
The heat may kill the battery a bit sooner then later, but after one year or two at most of 24/7 use (I never turn my phone off), the battery will be shot anyway.
I say just use the thing - what's the point of such a device if you cannot use it for the things it is supposedly intended for? Anyhow, that's how I use mine, and it's doing just fine.
Ok, so I been looking at the htc titans registry, and the entrys for the gps (hklm/software/htc sup gps). It seems a lot more emmaculate than ours.
Anyway, I noticed that there is a server, so I typed in the server address on my pc, and it ask for credentials (user name password). I believe thats why some of us cant get a fix.
The tilt's gps does work(communicating with satellite and towers), its just not getting the info from the towers/satellite to the phone! I assumed that what it is because I played around with several settings and finally got it to say "seeking position".
So if we can please get this thread going to fix the gps.
I LOVE MY TILT AND WOULD HATE TO GET AN IPHONE (EWL I HAVE TO WASH OUT MY MOUTH NOW)
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GPD4 ???
My Gps is being found on GPD4 not com4, dont think its the same!
I have an ATT Tilt running on tmobile. I have everthing working 100% perfectly.
If you're trying to setup AGPS with t-mobile you'll need to determine if t-mobile has an AGPS server (IPort). I've disabled my AGPS since I could never find this information anywhere. T-Mobile clains that the G1 has this feature, but nobody has been able to determine an IPort for configuration for AGPS.
Instead, use "SeaGee Quick Position", it's based on the packedEphemeris.ee data download instead of realtime. Read my responses in this thread.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3065747&postcount=197
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=3076268&postcount=203
Good Luck,
DJC
Thank you djcasual for the Quick Position Tip,
My gps aquires a signal much faster now...especially with TomTom 7
Thanks,
DJcasual, I am not worthy! Mines too is working with Tom Tom 7!
Thanks a million!
Yesterday reminded me why I don't use the built-in GPS..
First off, I use a bluetooth GPS with my Tilt because it's faster, more accurate, doesn't use any of the Tilt's battery, and doesn't *continue* to use it even after shutting it down.
I was out geocaching.. I was parked 300 feet from where I knew a cache was, so I didn't need the GPS.. And I knew another cache was about 600 feet from it, away from the car.. So I hit one cache, got about 400 feet towards the next one and went to start homing in on the cache to make sure I was going the right direction and realized I'd left the bluetooth GPS in the car.
So instead of sloshing back to the car, I waited for about 10 minutes for the Tilt's GPS to finally warm up only to be driven crazy by it's slowness and tendency to bounce around making caching impossible. I eventually gave up and went back to the car for the bluetooth GPS.
Then when I got home that night I had about 60% battery.. 4 hours later I went to grab the phone and it was at 5% and was warm. Stupid GPS was still running.
I've had my diamond for a year. I've been running TomTom 6 or 7.0
The nav's been working fine. My last mod was an updated Radio 1.25 and the best of my knowledge, it's been working fine.
However, now all I get when I start TomTom up is "waiting for a valid GPS signal"
I went into config and I've got other NMEA GPS receiver selected, 4800 baud and COM 4.
The same settings I've been using except now it doesn't work.
I hate to bother ya'll but I put my phone on ebay and I was making sure everything was working before it got sold and discovered this.
I don't want to sell it without it working correctly.
Thanks,
Mark
I actually had the same thing happen to my 8925 Tilt. and recently getting the Fuze I have yet to have it continually get a good gps lock. One day it will find 10 satellites and the next 8 days it wont find any. It is very annoying and not something I expected out of a brand new phone.
Well, I did a little searching and apparently it seems a lot of people download a gps fix update directly from tomtom.
I'll call them monday. I checked their site and even installed tomtom home but was not able to find anywhere to get a download.
I'll post back Monday.
Thanks,
Mark
Just a quick update: I had left TomTom running for 15-20 minutes each time I had tried to use it with no avail.
Then before I went to bed last night, I just left it on (and plugged in.... damn battery drainer) and when I woke up this morning, it had found it's satellites.
I'm still going to call TomTom Monday but apparently it's working, it's just slow.
Mark