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Cheap PSP-like MP5 Player from eBay

I bought a smartphone for several reasons, but one of them was that it can emulate old Nintendo and GBA games (with MorphGear for instance) and play different movie formats (with CorePlayer).
I'm sure MorphGear and CorePlayer work a lot better on the HD2 with its 1Ghz processor but since I can't live without a Qwerty I got myself a Touch Pro2. Unfortunately even after flashing a new ROM and overclocking the device you still have to choose between good framerate or sound when it comes to the emulator. On the other hand on CorePlayer, even when you get a decant framerate with unconverted movies the picture still gets a bit choppy (especially in action scenes) and we all know how irritating that can be.
On eBay there are hundreds of cheap, chinese MP5 Players, but since I really like the design of the Sony PSP and its 4.3'' screen I went with a PSP clone for $60 (I'm not THAT into games to spend a small fortune for the real thing ).
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It make a lot better job in emulating older games (with sound) and playing unconverted movies then my Rhodium. The screen in also very bright and the battery life ain't bad as well. Of course you can still play music, open up a calendar, set up an alarm, read some text files, but who needs that when you got a smartphone.
Unfortunately some games emulate pretty badly (Final Fantasy VI for example is so slow it's pretty much unplayable) and although you can play AVI files in 720p all Mp4's needs to be converted so standard DVD resolution.
But hey, what can you expect from a chinese product? It's still pretty good so if you enjoy old Nintendo/Sega/Gameboy games or want to watch movies with their regular framerate and without conversion I highly recommend buying this. I bought mine from an eBay seller called fast-grow.ecommerce for $60 (free shipping) and it got here in about a week. Here's the auction if you're interested http://cgi.ebay.pl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250674709558&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT They got it in different colors but mines black.
I opened this thread for one main reason - I'm a huge customization geek when it comes to phones and computers and my eyes burn each time I see this hideous Menu (UI?). I know it's just a cheap clone but do they really have to make the Menu THAT ugly? I connected the device to my Laptop to see is there some "\Windows"-like folder so I could change the graphics ('cause they're probably just JPGs and PNGs) but I only see what the producer wants me to see: empty folders for Music, Games, Movies and no access to the Root.
I'm probably not the only phone-geek who bought this so I was wondering is there anyone on XDA who tried searching the Root of the device and can point me in the right direction.
Or maybe there's a common way to access the Root when the standard connection isn't enough that works on many similar devices (Cameras, picture frames, mp4 players etc)?
Any help highly appreciated! The Menu's ugly as sh*t

Same issue...
I bought two (2) of these systems for just over 60.00! You are right...they rock for what they are supposed to do.
Yet, I am with you...what good is a groovy new piece of tech if I cannot tweak it to my bidding!!! I too am looking for a way to find the Root for the OS and have not yet gotten it.
I am poking around now with UNIX (and subsequent tools) to see if I can see something that the Windows OS cannot. I will post back when/if I get something.
Good luck either way!

Would that not be an MP4 player?

MacaronyMax said:
Would that not be an MP4 player?
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True, seen as there is no such thing as MP5

flyboyovyick said:
True, seen as there is no such thing as MP5
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I think Mr Heckler and Koch MP5 would disagree with you
I wouldn't disagree with him if I was you

Haha!
yeah, I think it's best we agree with him on that one

Ok, i have decided to agree.

Going back to the original question from the op:
I think it might be windows ce.
Can you sync via Activsync or wmdc?
It will be an easy job to customise it if it does.
You could even get it to boot in to full windows ce maybe

_LeCiel_ said:
I bought a smartphone for several reasons, but one of them was that it can emulate old Nintendo and GBA games (with MorphGear for instance) and play different movie formats (with CorePlayer).
I'm sure MorphGear and CorePlayer work a lot better on the HD2 with its 1Ghz processor but since I can't live without a Qwerty I got myself a Touch Pro2. Unfortunately even after flashing a new ROM and overclocking the device you still have to choose between good framerate or sound when it comes to the emulator. On the other hand on CorePlayer, even when you get a decant framerate with unconverted movies the picture still gets a bit choppy (especially in action scenes) and we all know how irritating that can be.
On eBay there are hundreds of cheap, chinese MP5 Players, but since I really like the design of the Sony PSP and its 4.3'' screen I went with a PSP clone for $60 (I'm not THAT into games to spend a small fortune for the real thing ).
It make a lot better job in emulating older games (with sound) and playing unconverted movies then my Rhodium. The screen in also very bright and the battery life ain't bad as well. Of course you can still play music, open up a calendar, set up an alarm, read some text files, but who needs that when you got a smartphone.
Unfortunately some games emulate pretty badly (Final Fantasy VI for example is so slow it's pretty much unplayable) and although you can play AVI files in 720p all Mp4's needs to be converted so standard DVD resolution.
But hey, what can you expect from a chinese product? It's still pretty good so if you enjoy old Nintendo/Sega/Gameboy games or want to watch movies with their regular framerate and without conversion I highly recommend buying this. I bought mine from an eBay seller called fast-grow.ecommerce for $60 (free shipping) and it got here in about a week. Here's the auction if you're interested http://cgi.ebay.pl/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250674709558&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT They got it in different colors but mines black.
I opened this thread for one main reason - I'm a huge customization geek when it comes to phones and computers and my eyes burn each time I see this hideous Menu (UI?). I know it's just a cheap clone but do they really have to make the Menu THAT ugly? I connected the device to my Laptop to see is there some "\Windows"-like folder so I could change the graphics ('cause they're probably just JPGs and PNGs) but I only see what the producer wants me to see: empty folders for Music, Games, Movies and no access to the Root.
I'm probably not the only phone-geek who bought this so I was wondering is there anyone on XDA who tried searching the Root of the device and can point me in the right direction.
Or maybe there's a common way to access the Root when the standard connection isn't enough that works on many similar devices (Cameras, picture frames, mp4 players etc)?
Any help highly appreciated! The Menu's ugly as sh*t
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Has anyone figured out how to get root access yet?

Pocketnow Review

Pocketnow has posted a 11+ minute review on the Nexus 7. Brandon did a pretty good job describing the pros and cons of the device and the tablet received a very good score overall. Here is the link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jiu7_Auqyg&feature=g-all-u. The negatives were a washed out/dull screen and it takes over 7 hours to charge the device from 0-100%.

I could not stand that guy's voice. That and it looked like he was constantly mashing the screen just for the sake of it.
Personal opinion.

I'm a bit nervous about the washed out screen. Coming from both a Galaxy Nexus and an iPad 3 I felt the Transformer series screens were all lacking in color vibrancy. I guess I'll have to wait and find out!

Strange that his takes 7 hours to charge, other reviews like ubergizmo say 3 hours.

jabsys said:
Strange that his takes 7 hours to charge, other reviews like ubergizmo say 3 hours.
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7 hours over USB could be right, but surely not plugged into the mains.

I think the Anandtech mini-review explains the screen issue.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
The big thing is his note that the greens seem undersaturated, which will make it appear dull. Plus comparing it to a phone isn't apples to apples because it is a different type of panel due to the need for greater viewing angles. I'd personally lose a bit of color vibrancy if it meant that I wouldn't have to hold it at a precise angle to be able to read it.

Really? People dislike the screen now? The day it was released at I/O everyone was complimenting it and saying that it looked great. It even looks good in videos.

>I'm a bit nervous about the washed out screen.
The comparison was to an AMOLED screen, which is stupid, since AMOLED is known to be oversaturated and brighter than most LCDs. He's comparing a $500 device (Galaxy Nexus) to a $200 device.
Comparison at 2:50 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jiu7_Auqyg&t=170
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>7 hours over USB could be right, but surely not plugged into the mains.
Given the ill-advised comparison with AMOLED, dude has little credibility.
There are many variables in charging. He's had the unit 3-4 days, and likely has only one full charge for the review. The first charge cycle can be weird.
N7 is very similar to Fire. The Fire has a 4.4Ah batt, and a [email protected] charger. From TomsHardware, Fire has 0-100% recharge time of 2:48. Other sources say as long as 5 hrs.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/amazon-kindle-fire-review,3076-14.html
N7 has a slightly smaller batt at 4.3Ah, and a slightly stronger [email protected] charger (same as iPad). Recharge time should be same or slightly less than Fire.
With his competence, dude probably used a standard cellphone (1.0A) charger.

Is it me.. or that video was so choppy that I just couldn't take it seriously

e.mote said:
He's comparing a $500 device (Galaxy Nexus) to a $200 device.
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The Galaxy Nexus is only $350.

My concern at this point is the browser, i want the browser to be smooth and work well on websites like theverge, and in this review he said that it was a bit choppy. I hope my preorder unit will not be choppy in the web browser.

lovenokia said:
My concern at this point is the browser, i want the browser to be smooth and work well on websites like theverge, and in this review he said that it was a bit choppy. I hope my preorder unit will not be choppy in the web browser.
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Everyone's unit will have a choppy browser unless Google patch through and update for chrome before the n7 is shipped. Think I will just download dolphin browser until its fixed. Oh and I did like this review but I just thought anandtech was better.
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androidkid311 said:
Everyone's unit will have a choppy browser unless Google patch through and update for chrome before the n7 is shipped. Think I will just download dolphin browser until its fixed. Oh and I did like this review but I just thought anandtech was better.
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I hope the dolphin web browser will be ipad smooth, i really need a good browsing device, cause i ruined the processor on my hp touchpad, and sold it to get an n7. Google better update chrome quickly.

I'll chime in here with my own opinion of the "screen vs. AMOLED" thing others have also commented on. I've been trying out a Toshiba Excite 7.7 with AMOLED (same one as on the Galaxy Tab 7.7) and have an iPad 3. Comparing the two side-by-side, I'll say that colors on the Excite 7.7 are definitely bright and more saturated than on the iPad 3. In fact, one might say the iPad 3 colors looked "washed out" compared to those on the Excite 7.7.
However, if you ask me which I prefer when using the two tablets separately, I'd say I prefer colors on the iPad 3. They seem more natural, while colors on the Excite 7.7 seem unnatural and somewhat blown out.
Also, I wouldn't want an AMOLED screen on the Nexus 7 even if colors were so much better, because AMOLED on a 7"-ish screen (at least on the Excite, with a similar battery) absolutely KILLS the battery when backgrounds are white (or generally brighter). For ebook reading, which I prefer black text on a white background, or any app (say, Greader) that uses a light background, battery life is something like 30% less. Switch to a dark background, and battery life is much improved. However, who wants to adjust their tablet usage to avoid lots of white, really?
In fact, there's so much of an impact that Toshiba apparently tuned their AutoBrite feature (adjusting contrast and brightness for screen content) to really kill quality with bright backgrounds. In fact, it changes abruptly when scrolling a Web page that varies from light to dark to light backgrounds. It's distracting and ugly, frankly, but clearly Toshiba saw the need to implement it given the impact on battery life.
The Verge said that, yes, colors are "washed out" compared to AMOLED, but much more in line with the new iPad. I'd say, that's a very good thing overall.

lovenokia said:
My concern at this point is the browser, i want the browser to be smooth and work well on websites like theverge, and in this review he said that it was a bit choppy. I hope my preorder unit will not be choppy in the web browser.
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We can't go by software reviews right now. These tablets are all running a developer preview, not the final build. The only thing that won't change is the hardware.

revmra said:
I think the Anandtech mini-review explains the screen issue.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6054/google-nexus-7-mini-review
The big thing is his note that the greens seem undersaturated, which will make it appear dull. Plus comparing it to a phone isn't apples to apples because it is a different type of panel due to the need for greater viewing angles. I'd personally lose a bit of color vibrancy if it meant that I wouldn't have to hold it at a precise angle to be able to read it.
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Thanks! I couldnt remember where I saw the color review. That for sure makes more sense.
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I found the Anandtech review a little concerning because of the temperature thing. I like warmer screens, but 5500K seems a little too warm. Can't seem to get any feedback from anyone who has one on white balance, either.
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calvin4001 said:
We can't go by software reviews right now. These tablets are all running a developer preview, not the final build. The only thing that won't change is the hardware.
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So your saying that the web browser may in fact be all finished and smoothed out by the time of the release? than if so i am happy!

Isn't there already a thread for Hands-On reviews? This should probably continue there. Though I really shouldn't pretend to be Step666...

Was this guy smoking something when he said the back was "easy to remove"

Nexus 7 display looks quite bad!

Hi,
the display of our nexus 7 really is a shame for a google lead-device.
Look here:
http://www.displaymate.com/Tablet_7inch_ShootOut_1.htm
http://www.displaymate.com/news.html#8
http://www.zdnet.com/google-nexus-7-bright-image-compression-blamed-on-oem-incompetence-7000001450/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-57479059-94/expert-claims-googles-nexus-7-display-has-flaws/
or here (left nexus 7 - right nook color):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=1380397&stc=1&d=1349526183
The Nexus 7 has a very bad white saturation...
So hopefully these things will be fixed soon by Asus and Google. And hopefully these things are not hardware related..
PS: There is a further Problem with PRISM smartdimmer too (appears after watching full-screen movies).
This can be "fixed" resp. disabled by editing a config-file...but it doesn´t fix the bad quality over-all...
Very disappointing for a Google lead-device!

True.
The display, for me at least, is fine. You have to remember, Asus made this tablet in FOUR MONTHS. There's gonna be problems. I've read dozens
of threads about dead pixels, screen lift, screen ficker, bad replacements, ect. Mine, for example, has screen ficker, but it's not bad I just deal with it. Not everyone feels that way though. Also, Google sold this at a loss.

Considering how great I think my Nexus 7 display looks, the op is really over-generalizing.
Pixel density and color rendition I consider superb for a device in this class.
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Oh great, another thread with someone *****ing
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I ride the light rail to work and frequently have people sit next to me that have competing devices, including iPad.
Before I'd read the articles, I was telling them how awesome the display was. And they would actually agree!
Then I read these articles and proceeded to stomp on my device and through it in the trash. Didn't matter what it looked like to me or even the owners of the competiton though about how vibrant and clear it was......
Just kidding, I still enjoy it very much and I used to own a Nook Color. I still can't see what the big deal is. Displaymate and the others have mentioned that the hardware is excellent for the display and that a color calibration is likely all that's required.
When that happens, I'll be like "holy cow!!!! Still can't see the big deal!"

Oh lordy this DisplayMate guy again with his graphs and charts.. Yeah he's doing what is called advertising his company by latching onto a hot item with unfounded negative opinions and "data" and it's working unfortunately because all you have to do in the tech field is claim you are an "expert" and anyone will put what you say to print. The N7 display looks absolutely fantastic and the DisplayMate guy is an idiot.

The first 4 links are about the same thing just from different places, I have no problems at all with my display and think it looks great.

styckx said:
Oh lordy this DisplayMate guy again with his graphs and charts.. Yeah he's doing what is called advertising his company by latching onto a hot item with unfounded negative opinions and "data" and it's working unfortunately because all you have to do in the tech field is claim you are an "expert" and anyone will put what you say to print. The N7 display looks absolutely fantastic and the DisplayMate guy is an idiot.
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Uh, no, he uses actual quantifiable data that tells you how the display performs technically. You may not care about the details, and the differences may not make a difference to you, but unless you have something to actually dispute the data, you're clearly the one being an idiot - you might as well be a flat heart her railing on someone and their fancy 'science' and stuff...

Coming from the 1st Fire, this screen looks amazing and runs great thus far. Very happy with my purchase.
Even compared to a new Fire and went with this and I am wrapped up quite a bit in the Amazon ecosystem.
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Before the n7 I was owning the iPad 3, I must say the n7
have almost nothing to compare to the iPad 3 Disaply(only display).
But I got my n7 and it's pretty good display, not the best but above average.

ffs

I was complimented on how nice the display on my Nexus 7 looked just 3 days ago by my boss, who is an electrical and software engineer and total technophile... I think the display looks quite good, the color reproduction is truer to life than the over-saturated AMOLED displays.
In fact the Nexus 7 is quite frequently praised for it's display by reviewers, such as this one:
http://reviews.cnet.com/google-nexus-7/
Packed with pixels, the Nexus 7's screen truly satisfies. Its 1,280x800-pixel-resolution screen delivers 1,024,000 pixels, giving it one of the highest pixel densities of any tablet. The bottom line: With a beautiful screen, fast performance, a comfortable design, and overall great media options, the Nexus 7 is easily the best 7-inch tablet available and one of the top tablets on the market.
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I think most people complaining about the display are either used to the unrealistic saturation of OLED displays, have defective units, or are trolls.
The Google Nexus 7 has a retina-class display (215 PPI). The Galaxy Tab has a 169 PPI display similar to the Kindle Fire and the Nook tablet. For consumers who like to read e-books on their tablet, the Nexus offers a sharper display.
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Here it is in an article about tablets with the best screens:
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-19736_7-57406607-251/tablets-with-the-best-screens/
Yeah... it basically has the best display in it's class, I really don't understand what people are complaining about. I think the display looks fantastic, and I am not newbie to smart phones or tablets. If yours really looks so awful send it back for an exchange because it is defective.

masully84 said:
Oh great, another thread with someone *****ing
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Umm...it's a fricking forum....for, amoung other things, people dissatisfied in some way to express it.
If its too much for you, don't click the post.

The calibration isn't quite right. Hopefully a firmware update at some point can fix it. But I can understand people getting tired of this topic brought up repeatedly. This has been discussed quite a bit. And I've been critical of the poor calibration, but I would not say the screen looks bad at all. I think it looks good, it just could look better.

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The calibration isn't quite right. Hopefully a firmware update at some point can fix it.
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Yes i hope they will fix it soon. The upcoming iPad Mini surely will have a display comparable to the iPad3.
And it´s rumored price is under $ 300,- too. So ASUS really should catch up with it.
Compared to an iPad 3 the lower Pixel density and bad color saturation makes (especially small) texts harder to read on our Nexus 7.
Fonts on iPad 3 are very sharp and deep-black - on Nexus 7 they often (chrome, flipboard, in-app settings-menu) look kinda gray and blurred.
Just compare it to iPad 3 and you will see the difference. If you don´t know how good it can be you will say our Nexus 7 display is good.
But if you have seen what´s possible on iPad3 you will be disappointed of N7.
I know a lot of "fandroids" always would say N7 is the best and greatest - i like the N7 too - but some things are bad and I don´t whitewash it.

Greens (and by extension yellows and cyans) tend to look more washed out on the Nexus 7 than on most other displays I've seen.
But colors are still better than any AMOLED I've ever seen. I'd much rather have a similar IPS panel on my Galaxy Nexus with its slightly washed out colors than the AMOLED with it's exaggerated saturation.

Who cares, some people have too much free time to nitpick
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Bogdan-xd said:
Greens (and by extension yellows and cyans) tend to look more washed out on the Nexus 7 than on most other displays I've seen.
But colors are still better than any AMOLED I've ever seen. I'd much rather have a similar IPS panel on my Galaxy Nexus with its slightly washed out colors than the AMOLED with it's exaggerated saturation.
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That´s difficult .. AMOLED on Galaxy SIII for me looks a little better than our washed out IPS (especially on texts).
But IPS on iPAD tops N7 significantly (especially the whites, greens and blues).

What's all this about amoleds and "more accurate" color reproduction. Going between my gnex and my N7 is like night and day. I absolutely love how the colors are so rich and deep looking. Then going to my N7 the colors are "accurate" but look washed comparing the two. If there was a little more contrast on the N7 it would be perfect but things are just too bright, needs more dept and shadows.
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What's all this about amoleds and "more accurate" color reproduction. Going between my gnex and my N7 is like night and day. I absolutely love how the colors are so rich and deep looking. Then going to my N7 the colors are "accurate" but look washed comparing the two. If there was a little more contrast on the N7 it would be perfect but things are just too bright, needs more dept and shadows.
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The problem is that colors on N7 are not accurate at all.
Blue green and white for example are far off the sRGB standard.
And Gamma is too low...
look here:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/nexus-7-test-jelly-bean,review-32494-5.html
or here:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/6073/the-google-nexus-7-review/3
color gamut is pretty bad especially compared to ipad3 (and upcoming ipad mini too ????)
according to this graphic the display (hardware?) can´t show all green and blue tones.
So we maybe will never see a softwareupdate which fixes our problem.

I thought the nexus 5 display is supposed to be the most accurate?

I remember reading an article saying the nexus 5 panel is the most accurate. Not sure if the picture can show it here but turquoise came out looking very blue.
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I remember reading an article saying the nexus 5 panel is the most accurate. Not sure if the picture can show it here but turquoise came out looking very blue.
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I think it's just the auto white balance adjusting for the lighting conditions. That's a camera issue, not a display issue.

adjust some settings in your camera app, its way off! unless you already adjusted them to look like this, then youre way off

Okay i'll try it again with my qx100. Your reasoning makes sense.
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Your logic is flawed. Nobody said the camera had perfect color reproduction.

Funny enough, I thought the same about the display. It actually really bothers me. I came from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus (CDMA). I had a couple short 1080p HD videos that I would play on that phone. Just like HD test videos. They looked great on that screen. So sharp and the color looked great on max brightness. The brighter the screen got the better the picture looked.
On this phone those same videos and others, too, look kind of grainy. Like the display should be a little smaller to get that sharp, crisp look. Turning the brightness all the way up just makes the grainy effect even worse. All of my HD videos have the same effect / look. I even turned on all of the warranty replacements I got. Same on 4 handsets. Kinda disappointed in the screen in that sense, but hey the phone was cheap.

RoyJ said:
Funny enough, I thought the same about the display. It actually really bothers me. I came from a Samsung Galaxy Nexus (CDMA). I had a couple short 1080p HD videos that I would play on that phone. Just like HD test videos. They looked great on that screen. So sharp and the color looked great on max brightness. The brighter the screen got the better the picture looked.
On this phone those same videos and others, too, look kind of grainy. Like the display should be a little smaller to get that sharp, crisp look. Turning the brightness all the way up just makes the grainy effect even worse. All of my HD videos have the same effect / look. I even turned on all of the warranty replacements I got. Same on 4 handsets. Kinda disappointed in the screen in that sense, but hey the phone was cheap.
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thats because samsung uses samoled screens. yes they are vivid and full of color, but they are more vivid and more colorful than in real life. where the n5 screen colors are more true to the colors in reality.

simms22 said:
thats because samsung uses samoled screens. yes they are vivid and full of color, but they are more vivid and more colorful than in real life. where the n5 screen colors are more true to the colors in reality.
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Agreed. It's just unfortunate that real life sucks.

I think this is a pointless thread
Flash Franco's kernel and adjust the color reproduction of your screen as per your liking..
Topic closed..
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Techimplant said:
I think this is a pointless thread
Flash Franco's kernel and adjust the color reproduction of your screen as per your liking..
Topic closed..
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You forgot to close the topic, Mr. Mod. I can still post.
If that's the case, maybe they should use the same kind of screen. My GNex was beautiful and I miss it. This display is just sub-par now that I really think about it. Comparing side by side with the HD videos...this is sad. Still love my N5, but I really miss that old screen. The N5 would have killed if it was the same
Edit: @ tech. Shutup lawlz, changing my gamma values, etc. Won't fix the grainy issue. Troll

RoyJ said:
You forgot to close the topic, Mr. Mod. I can still post.
If that's the case, maybe they should use the same kind of screen. My GNex was beautiful and I miss it. This display is just sub-par now that I really think about it. Comparing side by side with the HD videos...this is sad. Still love my N5, but I really miss that old screen. The N5 would have killed if it was the same
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Dont know about your N5 but my display is same as a HTC One ..and similar to my iPhone 5 as well ..coz ppi> 300 is all the same to naked eyes..
And if u r in love in with those pathetic over saturated amoled screens then nobody can help you..U should switch to a S4 or Note 3 or S5(will be unveiled tomorrow) as soon as possible..
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RoyJ said:
You forgot to close the topic, Mr. Mod. I can still post.
If that's the case, maybe they should use the same kind of screen. My GNex was beautiful and I miss it. This display is just sub-par now that I really think about it. Comparing side by side with the HD videos...this is sad. Still love my N5, but I really miss that old screen. The N5 would have killed if it was the same
Edit: @ tech. Shutup lawlz, changing my gamma values, etc. Won't fix the grainy issue. Troll
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I agree, accurate or not it's not a very good looking screen. On my computer monitor or TV I'll take accurate colors, but on my smartphone I much prefer bright, vivid colors. I really think LG/Google and N5 fanboys use "accuracy" as an excuse for such a subpar display. Between the washed out colors and poor viewing angles, it's easily the biggest disappointment with the N5.

Um not visible to the naked eye? Actually it is. I notice it. With my eyes. SMH lol. Why do some people argue JUST to argue? There is a noticeable difference to the naked eye 100%.
Just because you never used the screen, or are a huge fanboy isn't my problem. My Gnex (like 3 years old) displays HD videos as sharply as my 70" smart TV. My N5 (new) doesn't even come close. It looks grainy and pixelated.

I think u dont know anything about displays ..and I hope you are not comparing a HD video..hope those are "Full HD" videos ..
And one of the best hardware review site said this about the display of N5 ..Now I dont know whether YOU are more intelligent and knowledgeable or the guys at Anandtech... The problem is that u were using a phone thats generations old now
.and here is the review..a part of it:
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RoyJ said:
Um not visible to the naked eye? Actually it is. I notice it. With my eyes. SMH lol. Why do some people argue JUST to argue? There is a noticeable difference to the naked eye 100%.
Just because you never used the screen, or are a huge fanboy isn't my problem. My Gnex (like 3 years old) displays HD videos as sharply as my 70" smart TV. My N5 (new) doesn't even come close. It looks grainy and pixelated.
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The problem is that u dont know about pixels either..when u run a 720p video on a screen that has much less pixels built in then it would look fine..
But when u run at a 720p video on a screen whose resolution is 1080p then obviously it wont look that sharp..
i have a Dell Ultrasharp and thats one of the best monitors on the planet..so trust me I know how displays should be like..
EDIT: The reviewers at Anandtech said that the screen is even better than Note 3 ..and u are comparing it to a Galaxy Nexus
I think XDA membership should only be given to those people who have basic technical knowledge so that threads like this one can be avoided..
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Just because you buy a plane doesn't make you a pilot...
Obviously they are "full HD" lol. Use whatever tactics you would like to try to "prove" me wrong...
But the fact of the matter- the point I was trying to make, is
The galaxy nexus screen looks better to the naked eye than the n5 display does. Point blank period. Put the two side by side and it become obvious.
Who cares if I'm comparing n5 to a gnex??? Gnex looks better. Colors don't even look over saturated lol. Maybe that's because my gnex has a custom kernel with custom colors on it.
Okay so we took out the part of over saturation. So now pixelated effect. Gnex > n5.

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Just because you buy a plane doesn't make you a pilot...
Obviously they are "full HD" lol. Use whatever tactics you would like to try to "prove" me wrong...
But the fact of the matter- the point I was trying to make, is
The galaxy nexus screen looks better to the naked eye than the n5 display does. Point blank period. Put the two side by side and it become obvious.
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you do realize that its a matter of taste, right? it might look better to you, but to someone else it might look like trash. "looks" isnt an accurate method to measure which is better, just like "feels" isnt an accurate way to measure temperature.

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It looks grainy and pixelated.
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Are we talking about the same phone here? LG's OLED screen on the G Flex is exactly as you describe.
Thankfully I haven't been tainted by OLED yet but I can safely say the Nexus 5's IPS LCD is of superior quality than my $400 BenQ 120Hz TN display from a few years back. Also much nicer to look at than the majority of 15" 1080p mobile screens you find in $900 laptops.
If you're rooted I think you can boost colour saturation which would somewhat mimic the look you're going for.

RoyJ said:
Just because you buy a plane doesn't make you a pilot...
Obviously they are "full HD" lol. Use whatever tactics you would like to try to "prove" me wrong...
But the fact of the matter- the point I was trying to make, is
The galaxy nexus screen looks better to the naked eye than the n5 display does. Point blank period. Put the two side by side and it become obvious.
Who cares if I'm comparing n5 to a gnex??? Gnex looks better. Colors don't even look over saturated lol. Maybe that's because my gnex has a custom kernel with custom colors on it.
Okay so we took out the part of over saturation. So now pixelated effect. Gnex > n5.
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Dude..N5 has a full RGB display..Amoleds dont.. The only little tiny tiny tiny issue with N5 display is that the colors are warm and so there is a slight yellow tint..and thats coz the gamma is set to 1.8 all across..
Now if you correct that gamma then the yellow tint will disappear..Right now my N5 has a gamma of 2.2 all across ..and 2.2-2.4 is the most accurate for any display in the world ..2.2 being the best
Now if you dont have any idea what I said then google is your friend..
And trust me u need it..u r in need of some serious knowledge..loads of it..
And now I cannot waste my knowledge and time with you any more..this conversation is over..
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you do realize that its a matter of taste, right? it might look better to you, but to someone else it might look like trash. "looks" isnt an accurate method to measure which is better, just like "feels" isnt an accurate way to measure temperature.
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Whatever lol. I'm so done with this thread. I don't care how old a gnex is. It just looks better. Sure you are right, but as far as I'm concerned, that only has to do with the "color saturation levels".
I can watch the same video on both phones. Full HD. On my gnex, I can read the writing on paper money in movies. I can see designs / patterns in the iris of someones eyes. I can see every nook and cranny or the trunk of a tree.
On the N5 it just looks lower quality. I can see the color of someone's eyes but really no specific pattern. The picture isn't sharp enough. I can see a blurred image of what looks like text on money or papers on the N5.
Newer isn't always better lol

Anyone Else Disappointed with Gear Image Quality?

Having spent way too many hours trying to perfect my own DIY HMD, I thought I'd found the solution: I could just buy a Note 4, buy a Gear, and be done with it ( at least until the Rift is released).
Got my Gear today, and ... I can't get over how poor the image quality is. It's not the Note 4 screen, which is fine, it's the lenses on the Gear. When I look at a screen capture on my HMD (using the Note 4 as a screen), and then look at it on the Gear, the same image seems drastically different: zoomed in, with pixels the size of baseballs drowning out all sense of immersion. I tried a 1080p video on the Oculus Theater ... it was so pixelated it reminded me of watching videos on my old psp ...
In every other respect the Gear beats my DIY HMD hands down, but in this one--I would argue very important area--it absolutely does not.
Am I the only one who had this experience?

I agree with you that the image quality is still not good enough to replace mediums like a TV or monitor. This is for sure one reason why it will not find mass adoption right now. You must understand that this are really early days of consumer VR now and until today there is no "real" consumer ready HMD on the market.
ad. Gear VR lenses:
They really could have used better optics but then the price would be not "consumer friendly" then - also the DK2 lenses are crap in my opinion but it seems the market for good vr optics also just have been awaken.
I remember my first VR experience was with a homemade cardboard-design HMD using good lenses from high grade binoculars. They were heavy (as glass made) and the achieved FOV was not really great but it was crystal clear and nearly zero SDE. When i got my DK2 i was really disappointed to see this big pixel party! But realizing what a great FOV and the right software can achieve (a kind of presence) i knew we have to go for great FOV if VR should be a new medium and not only a image/movie viewer.

Thanks for the detailed response!
I think Samsung/Oculus tipped the balance WAY too far toward FOV at the expense of SDE.

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Thanks for the detailed response!
I think Samsung/Oculus tipped the balance WAY too far toward FOV at the expense of SDE.
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Personally I prefer a larger FOV, and think you get the best experience with the foams removed (only have some on my nose). Would never choose a smaller FOV just for slightly less of a SDE as that would totally kill the immersion for me. Hoping for 4K full RGB screens in two years time.

Agree with you
I for one absolutely agree with you. got mine 2 days ago and yeah the experience is nice but the image quality is fuzzy or blurry, it would be nice if someone can mod a lens on to the Gear VR to sharpen the quality.
my question: is this issue addressed in the upcoming drift in 2016?
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Having spent way too many hours trying to perfect my own DIY HMD, I thought I'd found the solution: I could just buy a Note 4, buy a Gear, and be done with it ( at least until the Rift is released).
Got my Gear today, and ... I can't get over how poor the image quality is. It's not the Note 4 screen, which is fine, it's the lenses on the Gear. When I look at a screen capture on my HMD (using the Note 4 as a screen), and then look at it on the Gear, the same image seems drastically different: zoomed in, with pixels the size of baseballs drowning out all sense of immersion. I tried a 1080p video on the Oculus Theater ... it was so pixelated it reminded me of watching videos on my old psp ...
In every other respect the Gear beats my DIY HMD hands down, but in this one--I would argue very important area--it absolutely does not.
Am I the only one who had this experience?
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To be very very honest, Im not disappointed about it at all. The tech is really young, the Note4 was only compatible with the innovator and development editions of the hardware. I cant comment on the quality improvement between the devices. But with a Note5 and a consumer version, Im getting exactly what I thought id be getting. Very bleeding edge technology that hasn't even gotten off the runway but is far ahead than anything else on the consumer market today.

Remember this: 100$ ..................... if you want something better, the next step is 600$ and only in march.
Also, this is technically not even an official 1st gen device. It's a slightly better draft than the slightly better draft of the previous editions. I think oculus and samsung partnered to use Galaxy users as a sort of Beta test. This technology obviously is the future, but as of now, its still a foetus. I have a Note 5, one of the most powerful smartphones in the world, and yet, the VR uses 98% of the phones performance. The battery drains within 1h practically and it generates so much heat it would probably keep your coffee warm in winter.
I bought one of the best rated VR headsets on amazon as a gift for my nephew, it cost me half of what my GearVR cost me, and it doesnt even come close to offer what Samsung does. The ONLY thing it does better, it it has almost no light leak. Thats also the only thing i can ***** about the GearVR, i would have liked a black background around lenses and thicker padding around face, or at least, an extra strip of padding we can patch the light leaks (also a carrying bag would have been nice even if it was cheap).
This GearVR sould have been called the "Early Bird Edition". We all are early adopters, I can tell you one thing, for 100$, I have impressed 100% of the people that put the headset on, and not only impressed, amazed. And 3 weeks later, i'm still being impressed by the new thing I find I can do, explore or play.
As for the pixels, it would take an 8K screen 3 inches from our face to not see them. I didnt know this until recently when the app froze on me but out the the entire screen realestate, only a very small portion is used for a majority of content. So yeah, that 1080p content you are watching, not exactly trueHD
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I might have made it a bit small, but not by much.
P.S. Not a big fan of the super mega studio adult films, but they have actually some of the highest quality videos out there, there are some samples floating around, its quite impressive.

Over the moon with mine, can watch full length movies with ease Tonto being one of them, battery no problem here with an s6 edge plus, but use mine on wifi only usually, and I have facebook blather and g+ disabled, and nothing polling ,email etc. all on manual , usually use unit at 4 to 5 on its brightness slide ,not aware of any light leak in my experience.
Everyone without exception who has tried it is blown away, I own my favourite phone anyway and then this appears, an accessory for $99 with this level of experience, if you are fortunate to be able to afford it without neglecting your life and dependants needs.......who wouldn't . If apple had released this exact same item with their logo ,the media would have eaten it alive with cream and the public would too, and, when they do, they will, we all
know this is in its infancy, but its a great place to be, the next advance in screen resolution will nail it, when your looking at a 25 foot screen with the clarity of a samsung big tv quality ,you, entertainment wise, have arrived.
plus, keep em like new guys, when it comes time to upgrade, this will practically sell your phone for you...maybe. lol.

Love mine too. Have had it since the day after Thanksgiving, and still using it a lot daily. There is a "screen door effect" to it, but the resolution is still clear and bright on movies. I put on some 3D movies last week, and they look great, and are easy to watch. Games like Herobound and Gunjack are also stunning and extremely fun with a controller to play. Samsung Internet browser is great, but don't count on all content to be great quality. There are some good 3D video samples on Youtube through the browser though. Also just looked through some Experiences in the Oculus Video app tonight, like going to the Electric Daisy Carnival. Again, quality of that video not great, but still a fun experience to see what it would be like to be there.

SDE is overpowering and both sides of the screen out of focus - in my experience. Its a cool toy but nothing I would use for any length of time. This is with the Note 5.
That being said, the tech should probably be good in a year or so.