Can sync via USB but not via Bluetooth - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Am setting up my Tytn II with a new Toshiba Satellite Pro U300 laptop. I have no problem with syncing via USB but cannot get Windows Mobile Device Center to see the device via Bluetooth.
Half the problem may be the Toshiba Bluetooth software, which takes over the standard MS bluetooth software, although I managed to use the Tytn to share an internet connection without much fuss.
On the handset, when I pair it with the PC it sets up a COM port (COM9) and Wireless Stereo support - should it have another option under Partnership settings or something?
On the PC it sets up a dial up networking connection and a Network Access (PAN) connction, both of which seem to work fine. I can browse the Bluetooth shared folder on the phone or PC without problem, so what am I missing with regards to syncing???
Any ideas would be appreciated, but please document it clearly as I am sure I am missing something obvious.
Thanks in advance
Martin B

Try this, step by step, it worked for me perfectly!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340954

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WM5: Unable to sync with my laptop with Toshiba BT!

I just bought an Asus M6VA laptop (called Z70 something in the US), and it has built-in Bluetooth. I can connect with the serial port OK, I can use the Dial-Up Networking to surf the net with my laptop and the BA as the modem, but I'm unable to get AS working. I have AS over BT working with my office computer, that has a Logitech DiNovo Media Desktop bluetooth, with Widcomm stack. But the Asus has a Toshiba stack with a totally different setup, and I can't get it to work.
The Widcomm stack sees AS and even an audio gateway, so I can use the PC as a handsfree device for my BA (even though the sound's rather terrible), but the Toshiba stack only sees a serial port and DUN on it. i would appreciate any pointers and help!
have you set up active sync on your laptop to connect via bluetooth.you have to click on file conection settings and select allow connection to one of the following and then select the com port your pocket pc is using.also when you setup your pocket pc to connect to your laptop it gives you the option of serial port but you also have to have active sync selected aswell if it does not show up then press refresh.let me know wat happens.
I tried again, and when I connect the serial port, I see "Microsoft ActiveSync cannot recognize this device for one of two reasons " and then it suggests that it wasn't connected properly, or that it isn't a PPC or smartphone.
I have the serial port on the PC set to Com6, and AS is set up to allow syncing through that port. On the PPC I have outgoing port Com 0 (just about the only port I could get it to accept, but I tried one other, I think it was Com 9, and that didn't help). I have done a bunch of refreshes but I can't see active sync as an available service on the laptop. I belive that's the problem, since I could see that on my office computer, and that connected and synced without problems.
In AS on your laptop delete any previous partnerships with your PDA. If possible, delete any laptop partnerships in AS on your PDA as well. On your PDA, go to Settings -> System -> Bluetooth Settings. Choose to start AS setup...
It sounds like your laptop may be using the MS drivers... There should be an option to make your laptop Discoverable, but I'm not very familiar with the MS stack... more familiar with the Widcomm. Look for something like Advanced settings in the left window pane...
Let us know if any of that helps!
I have tried that , but clicking on the Start button gives me a window "Please bond with other Bluetooth device which supports serial port or Active Sync profile as your AS partner". And I have already bonded! Bonding again doesn't change anything.
http://episteme.arstechnica.com/groupee/forums/a/tpc/f/579009962631/m/519002845731 use these instructions that is what i did and it worked fine.let me knw
Nope, it doesn't work at all. Like I said in the first post, this is not a Microsoft stack, it's a proprietary Toshiba stack, and it doesn't have any of the setup windows or settings that this guide mentions.
You've probably thought of this....
Maybe you need to manually create a serial port to your PDA... When you paired the PDA to the laptop, what services were you offered? If Serial port is available, create the connection, note down the COM#. With BT started, in AS allow synch via new BT COM port...
Yes, I have tried that, and it didn't work.
I finally managed to do it! I found a way to use the Micro$oft BT Stack instead of the Toshiba one, and now I'm finally set up for AS over BT with the guide mentioned above. Thanks!

The Bluetooth and Windows Mobile Device Center Dilemma

Hey everyone!!
Did anyone manage to connect his HTC Wings via Bluetooth to the PC and Sync it with WMDC?
It works with cable but not Bluetooth (BL).
I appreciate comments.
Thanks
A.Bagatov said:
Did anyone manage to connect his HTC Wings via Bluetooth to the PC and Sync it with WMDC?
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It worked pretty easy on my S730. Make sure you enable BT on the phone and your computer. Pair the PC with the S730 and start ActiveSync on your mobile. Select the option 'Connect via Bluetooth' and that was it (for me).
you seem to be using activesync, however i use windows mobile device center with windows vista x32... so the procedure is different and much more problematic it seems... not just with the s730 but with all wm devices
A.Bagatov said:
you seem to be using activesync, however i use windows mobile device center with windows vista x32... so the procedure is different and much more problematic it seems... not just with the s730 but with all wm devices
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I use Windows Vista Business (32-bit) and I needed to upgrade Mobile Device Center. It works without any problems afterwards. The only disadvantage is that I need to manually connect on my phone, before it starts synchronizing. I would rather have it syncronized whenever it is near my laptop.
it doesnt work for me. bluetooth is turned on in both devices.
does anyone have any suggestions?
i have the toshiba bluetooth stack software, do you use that too??
I had the same problem. Open you WMDC and go into Mobile Device Settings and select Connection Settings. Under Allow connection to one of the following: change the selection from Bluetooth to COM7.
Then open your device and set up your bluetooth connection again. You should see Activesync now.
You are most likely using the Toshiba Bluetooth Stack instead of WIDCOMM.
IT IS NOT WORKING
AAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
this is so STUPID
when i try to set up on my phone then it says "you have no partner for activeysnc, get one?"
i say YES and choose my computer
then i can select a port a one point and i CANT select 7
whats the solution!=?!
From your response I think you are trying to set the COM port on your device but you should be changing it in Windows Mobile Device Center.
I'll go step by step in case I was not clear.
1- Disconnect your Wing from your computer.
2- Open Windows Mobile Device Center
3- The only option should be "Mobile Device Settings"
4- In Mobile Device Settings you should have two option Connection Settings and End a partnership, select Connection Settings.
5- Under the second check box "Allow connection to one of the following" there is a drop-down box which should currently read "Bluetooth". In the drop-down box change that selection to COM7.
Note: If COM7 is not available, then I suggest you uninstall your Bluetooth device drivers and then reinstall them.
6- Close Windows Mobile Device Center
Now return to your device.
Delete any existing Bluetooth connections to your computer. and reestablish your Bluetooth connection. You don't need to change any COM settings on your device. Just establish your connection and you should have the Activesync option once it is reconnected.
This is under the assumption that you are running the Toshiba Bluetooth Stack on your computer. If you are and it doesn't work, I'm all out of ideas.
I should have specified that as of Step 2 above, this is all done on your computer not your smartphone, i.e. HTC Wings.
Your problem with Bluetooth is on the computer not the device, most likely.
this doesnt work... i did all the things like u told me on the computer.
then i go to my phone and try to connect from activesync via bluetooth and it says that no computer with a partnership could be found?? even though i actually made bluetooth partnership with my pc. when i added my pc to my bluetooth devices list on my HTC it told me that my pc supported 2 services: stereo audio and com port. i ticked com port... it doesnt seem to help.
on my pc, when i open the bluetooth stack software from toshiba i can see my phone has a partnership with my pc. but it has a network symbol on it.. is this supposed to be like that? ah this is so frustrating? any suggestions?
The only difference I see between your set up and mine is that I don't have a connection appearing on my computer.
So when you open your Bluetooth Settings on the computer, I don't have a saved connection with my Smartphone. The only place I see a connection between my computer and my device is on the device itself.
So my last suggestion is to delete both connections. The one on your computer and then the one on your device.
Open your device and reestablish a connection from your device to your computer. You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection.
Also, go back and make sure that in Windows Mobile Device Centre, the connection is for COM7 and has not reverted back to Bluetooth. What you described has only ever happened on my computer when the connection was not set to COM7.
Something currious happened with my device when I was reestablishing my Bluetooth connection, which may be of interest to you.
I erased my original Bluetooth connection and while reestablishing it my device was also connected to my computer with the USB cable. When I paired the device, there was no option for ActiveSync. I disconnected my device and then started the Bluetooth pairing over and this time ActiveSync was available.
Does this help?
Any of you guys who have sucessfully pairedd WDMC in Vista with S730 over bluetooth use original MS out-of-box bluetooth drivers?
I've only used the Toshiba and Widcomm Bluetooth Stacks and have been able to sync with both on Vista.
dagobert_29 said:
The only difference I see between your set up and mine is that I don't have a connection appearing on my computer.
So when you open your Bluetooth Settings on the computer, I don't have a saved connection with my Smartphone. The only place I see a connection between my computer and my device is on the device itself.
So my last suggestion is to delete both connections. The one on your computer and then the one on your device.
Open your device and reestablish a connection from your device to your computer. You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection.
Also, go back and make sure that in Windows Mobile Device Centre, the connection is for COM7 and has not reverted back to Bluetooth. What you described has only ever happened on my computer when the connection was not set to COM7.
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there is the problem: "You will be asked to enter the password on your computer but when you open your Bluetooth Settings, you may not see a saved connection."
because as soon as i enter the bluetooth password on my phone and computer, there appears a bluetooth connection in the manager from toshiba. this connection has a "network" symbol and the services offered are com port and stereo audio. thats not much is it? and also when i click "connect" an error comes up.. connection couldnt be established or something.
i hate this. how can be a SIMPLE task so problematic?
toshiba drivers are working fine. send and receive works. and my phone is fine too. the wmdc work fine as well via USB. i also installed the wmdc UPDATE..... wtf right?!
Hey A.Bagatov,
I'm at a complete loss to understand why you can't get WMDC to work with your phone over BT. You've done everything I've done but unlike you I was able toe stablish the connection.
The only other thing I can think of is to download the latest BT drivers from Toshiba. But before you install them, make a copy of the TosBtChk.dll file and once you've completed the installation of your new BT drivers, replace the new TosBtChk.dll with the one you saved. This will stop you from receiving the trial period notification.
If that doesn't work, then maybe replace your Toshiba BT stack with the Widcomm stack. You'll need to locate a version compatible with your computer.
i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio
A.Bagatov said:
i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio
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You have to understand Widcomm is not a free replacement for your MS drivers. Its commercial and it can only be obtained with some BT hardware, not as stanalone product AFAIK. As that, it is a bit complicated to make it work with unsupported device (but quite possible). And where to get it? Generally, if you are able to pirate, you are also able to google.
However, I assume you have legal OS installed on your Sony laptop - why not to tell MS they BT drivers SUCK A BIG TIME? Go tell them its crap that does not EVEN WORK TOGETHER WITH THEIR OWN UTILITIES.
Call 1-800-MSSUCKS
A.Bagatov said:
i would like to get widcomm and get rid of the problems.
so where can i get the widcomm stack? and how do i figure out if its compatible with my laptop?
its sony vaio
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I've also got a Sony Vaio, SZ45, and on the Notebook Review forum, there is a thread that discusses replacing the Toshiba BT stack with Widcomm, which you can get free of charge. The thread offers a modified file which should be sufficient to enable Widcommon your laptop. Here's a link to the general forum http://forum.notebookreview.com/forumdisplay.php?f=8
mpattonm said:
You have to understand Widcomm is not a free replacement for your MS drivers. Its commercial and it can only be obtained with some BT hardware, not as stanalone product AFAIK. As that, it is a bit complicated to make it work with unsupported device (but quite possible). And where to get it? Generally, if you are able to pirate, you are also able to google.
However, I assume you have legal OS installed on your Sony laptop - why not to tell MS they BT drivers SUCK A BIG TIME? Go tell them its crap that does not EVEN WORK TOGETHER WITH THEIR OWN UTILITIES.
Call 1-800-MSSUCKS
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Microsoft are not the developers of the Widcomm Bluetooth Stack, it's owned by Broadcom. It can be obtained for free, however, you're right in saying it may not work with non-Broadcom hardware. In A.Bagatov's case, the issue is with Toshiba not Microsoft. They are the one's who developed a driver that is not always compatible with non-Toshiba products.
According to other posts I've, the Microsoft generic Bluetooth drivers would appear to work just fine with Windows Mobile devices, however, I was unable to get it working and did not pursue the matter any further once I was able to get the Toshiba BT Stack to function.
I can sympathize with your frustration, but your post does not help him solve his problem.

Sync with bluetooth

I like to sync my Diamond with my Vista-computer and " Center for Windows Mobile devices" through Bluetooth.
I have a working connection with USB already, but want to skip the cable.
I can pair the computer with my Diamond but the only services I get on the Diamond is "wireless stereo" and "serial port".
Been trying to read every instruction on both the bluetooth connection in Vista and on the Diamond but it seems I cant get the service-choice I need to be able to sync my outlook and so on.
Any suggestions on how to get my bluetooth connection working?
Have a look at the link below for links to a pdf download which has an in depth solution to the problem you're having. It's specifically for the Toshiba bluetooth stack and it works if you follow the instructions carefully. If you're not using the Toshiba stack, I think it should still give you sufficient clues to configure the bluetooth ports to work with activesync.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-412836.html
studz said:
Have a look at the link below for links to a pdf download which has an in depth solution to the problem you're having. It's specifically for the Toshiba bluetooth stack and it works if you follow the instructions carefully. If you're not using the Toshiba stack, I think it should still give you sufficient clues to configure the bluetooth ports to work with activesync.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-412836.html
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Thanks for the link but when I get to page 11 step 16 in the pdf it says you should get wireless stereo and Active sync. I get wireless stereo and serial port as my choices.
Don´t know if that´s because I use Vista and Center for Windows Mobile Devices (The new version that has replaced Active sync in Vista and that should make it soooooo easy to connect mobile devices instead of Active Sync.
I'm guessing you're using the default Microsoft Bluetooth stack with Vista? If so, ActiveSync should be available when you pair your phone with your PC. If not, check the Services tab for the phone in Vista's BT manager applet, it may need to be ticked in there.
I use BlueTooth with WMDC all the time with my Diamond and it was as simple as pairing then going into ActiveSync on the phone and selecting Connect via Bluetooth.
I´m not sure what bluetooth stack I´m using. I think it´s Toshibas but how can I check that?
I had to install Toshibas application to get the drivers for my bluetooth device and I think a got the stack at the same time.
Is there a way to shift stack if I use Toshibas instead of Vistas default?
Please take a look at the attachement to see my gui for bluetooth, and the Center for MobileDevices (Instead of Active sync) on my Vista machine, and what happens when I connect my Diamond through Bluetooth. Sorry about the language but it tries to install the Diamond as a Bluetooth modem and that´s the only thing I seems to be able to install.

Using Diamond with Car-PC via bluetooth?

Hi there,
I got a car-pc since a while and have been using my sony ericsson with it... calls get transferred via bluetooth to the computer, as like phonebook in integrated into the car-pc software... all transmitted via bluetooth...
Now with the diamond, how do i set it up as a phone? winXP doesnt recognize other services than the moden funxtion
you should enable Remote SIM access on you Diamond: Start -settings - connections bluetooth SIM acces and also activate the service for your BT connection (do this in the first tab of the BT settings dialogue after connectig)
already done :-( But the Computer doesn't list other functions than modem for the HTC
Do i need any drivers for XP? Usually not...
Using Diamond & CarPC Via Internet sharing over BT
I have a CarPC in my car, it has a 7" touch screen & it is running WinXP and have built in Bluetooth. So for surfing in the internet , MSN, Skype in my car over the carpc i am using my HTC Diamond with the Internet Sharing icon and connecting it via Bluetooth to the carPC so i get FAST Internet over Bluetooth between my carpc and my HTC Diamond.
It works very good - very stable.
Matter of fact it is "capturing" my 3G Internet and pass it over Bluetooth to the carpc.
Solution works very well.
k, but i am not interested in using it as internet connection, i want to phone via the computers hardware, so the car-pc should act as an headset... besides that, he shoult be able to access the adress book and to begin calls... that for, i neeed 2 comports emulated, but how to create them?
could it be because the device is seen as a PDA, and not as a mobile phone?
I know somewhere here on XDA there is a reg hack for earlier devices to make them appear as a mobile phone to car kits. maybe the same thing will help here. I don't know where it is, can only suggest searching, unless anyone else can point you in the right direction....
I used to have PhoneConnector on my CarPC, with PhocoAdapter on the phone. It worked, but now this software is not supported anymore and unfortunately it does not work with WM6.
Freefone is not compatible either.
My good Blackbaron, I believe we users of CarPCs and Windows Mobile are scr...d!
By the way, sharing the 3G connection workds a treat, by USB, BT, Wifi... I just wish Vodafone would allow other ports than port 80
I still didnt realize what 3G is... ^^ I never owned a ppc before...
Well, on the CarPC the internet speed is as great as a DSL line, here is France I measured it at more than 3.5 MB/s (KS20 is limited to 4 MB/s with HSDPA, who knows why). Coming from the crappy Edge Motorola phone I had before, the browsing is truly amazingly fast!
help
golympio can you tell me step by step how to connect htc diamond via bluetooth for internet?
Try this app called JetWare
gerardo66 said:
golympio can you tell me step by step how to connect htc diamond via bluetooth for internet?
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1) Launch the Internet Sharing application on your phone (all WM6 phones have it)
2) Select your 3G connection, and BT or USB, tap "Connect"
3) USB: have ActiveSync installed on the PC, connect the USB cable, it's done.
4) BT: you have to set up a BT PAN hosted from your phone, add your PC to it, it's done.
5) If your provider uses a proxy, setup Firefox to use it (Tools/Options/Advanced/Network)
6) If your provider has a filter on User Agent, then you need the plug-in "User Agent Switcher", to put the same User Agent string as on your phone.
There you go!
zmob123 said:
Try this app called JetWare
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Looks interesting, I'll give it a try when I have some time. Do they have a trial version?
Yes they have, i leeched it... But i don't find the difference between now and before installing it...

Bluetooth

Hi,
I just bought a Bluetooth dongle for my PC. (Trust Ultra Small Bluetooth 2.1 Usb Adapter 25 M)
The main reasons for buying this was so I could sync without using one of my very spare USB ports.
Another big reason was that I really want to try SideShow.
So, I hooked the thing up, installed it. Works like a charm for most services (files etc). It just doesn't work for two things: ActiveSync (on the phone)/Windows Device Center (on my PC) and Windows SideShow. Yay.
Could you please help me out?
To summarize:
PC with Vista Home Premium,
Trust Ultra Small Bluetooth 2.1 Usb Adapter 25 M,
HTC S730.
Not working for ActiveSync nor SideShow.
x5x_tim
PS: I installed something called "X86-PC Drivers.cab" I found in some thread. That's supposed to be the drivers for the SideShow service on the PC. (I think I installed them, I did not get an error from Rundll32...)
EDIT: what might be of use: I can't get the devices to pair if I use the PC to initiate that. The PC does not find the phone untill I pair them using to phone to initiate.
I don't know about SideShow but I managed once to ActiveSync my Wings through Bluetooth. Just be sure to remove any security restricition on your Bluetooth settings on your device. Like Secure Connection etc... Also, setup a serial port when you connect with your PC and then, at PC ActiveSync settings, at connection settings -> Allow Connections To One Of The Following (Com 4 or whatever). And then, at ActiveSync on your mobile, connect through Bluetooth. Try it and come again if it doesn't work.
Yes! Thank you. It's syncing as I type. That COM4 did the trick!
In the same way, you can have Internet on your mobile through Bluetooth's activesync connection. It is helpful if you don't have wifi on your mobile.

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