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Is it me or does the OZ IM client that comes with the AT&T Tilt not work right when you talk to other people?
My friend has the real AIM client on his Mogul and I tried to chat with him via OZ IM and all he sees is blank messages.
I tried Agile and it works great. I have to buy it though, so...I tried the AIM client (from the UK site) and it works too, but it's crap because the notifications are bad and it seems like an old program.
Any ideas?
its bc Oz IM uses text messaging instead of data and the mobile version of aim doesnt support text messaging.
Which IM service you using? MSN, AIM? I don't use AIM or Yahoo, but I do use MSN form time to time. Windows Live works just fine for that, and uses data, not SMS.
I wanted to use AIM. I have an unlimited data plan and that's the reason I wanted to use data instead of SMS. Any way to make this client work? Don't want to buy Agile.
MakaveliReturns said:
I wanted to use AIM. I have an unlimited data plan and that's the reason I wanted to use data instead of SMS. Any way to make this client work? Don't want to buy Agile.
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Yup, dont use the OZ client. Download Palringo or Octrotalk.. Both free. both will work with AIM and all the other clients and use data.
drellmsu said:
Yup, dont use the OZ client. Download Palringo or Octrotalk.. Both free. both will work with AIM and all the other clients and use data.
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Thanks. I gave the Palgrino app a try, which one do you recommend?
Works!!
Palgrino is working for me. its quick and stays connected even when minimized.
I use Slick. It works really well and uses data.
Hi:
Do any of these have smilies?
I just installed Palringo, and it looks very nice, but no smilies.
Thanks!
PS: I don't mind paying for it, if it has a nice enough interface, and smilies. Palringo looks amazing, it's exactly what I am looking for except for the smilies.
Beejive had it on my blackberry untill i got the tilt. works like a charm for me and it shows notifications and smilies and supports all clients
http://www.beejive.com/wm6/index.php
The problem in my eyes with the applications that use DATA connections instead of SMS, is that while logged in, now my Tilt has to maintain a live data connection with the network.
What I like about an SMS version is that no matter where I am, 3G, Edge, it just works over SMS. True it's not as "responsive" as a data connection, but it's mobile IM. What do you expect?
On that note, since I'm running aftermarket cooked ROM, does anyone have the OZ IM client that the tilt shipped with available?
well i talked to a few att reps about this and have gotten different answers from all 4 them. 2 say that in order to use the oz IM client you need a data plan because it connects to media.net to sign on. the other 2 say its billed as sms. this is also what is says on their website also https://www.wireless.att.com/support/knowledgeBase.do?content=KB84620.html . so thought you guys might know for sure whether using this client is billed as data, sms, or both. this would probably also answer my question for sending MMS if its just charged as data, a message, or both since it connects to media.net to send. thanks.
device is an att tilt with stock att rom
it connects to media net to signon, but when you are chatting and sending msgs back and forth that is SMS not data. on your bill it will show up as "ICQ IM" under TYPE, and your number under FROM.
NguyenHuu said:
it connects to media net to signon, but when you are chatting and sending msgs back and forth that is SMS not data. on your bill it will show up as "ICQ IM" under TYPE, and your number under FROM.
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so even while signed on and connected to media net i wont incur data charges? just sms charges for sending and receiving messages right? thanks for the help so far.
it counts as sms... not data
Another quick question - I am running one of Dutty's roms and I noticed whenever my phone is connected as a 3G I cannot sign on using the OZ IM client.
Anyone else have this problem? Is there a solution?
Mine uses the data to connect and get my buddy lists, but then each line I type is counted as one SMS, and each line I receive is counted as another SMS. It does not show up on my bill is ICQ though, but IMSMS or something along those lines. So I've seen on my bill the data connect AND the SMS for OZ IM. I am certainly looking for another IM client! I used to use Agile Messenger, but they charge an annual subscription. There HAS to be a better option! Anyone have any ideas for a decent, data only, IM client?
teren said:
So I've seen on my bill the data connect AND the SMS for OZ IM.
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thats exactly what i wanted to find out! thanks. so just to clarify you are billed data and sms correct?
Use MSN Live
You can install MSN live cab availible around. It will use MSN messanger and it go over internet connection, no per SMS charges. Additional benefit pushmail connection to people using hotail or msn hosted accounts. Just change in option sync type from manual to when item arrived.
teren said:
Mine uses the data to connect and get my buddy lists, but then each line I type is counted as one SMS, and each line I receive is counted as another SMS. It does not show up on my bill is ICQ though, but IMSMS or something along those lines. So I've seen on my bill the data connect AND the SMS for OZ IM. I am certainly looking for another IM client! I used to use Agile Messenger, but they charge an annual subscription. There HAS to be a better option! Anyone have any ideas for a decent, data only, IM client?
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I use Fring or Palringo, both are free and will work for MSN, Google Talk, Yahoo, etc. The main difference between the two IM programs is that Fring also does VOIP calling through Skype. They both work on data, not SMS.
I been reading other threads and i cannot find an answer. I even called att and they were no help.
I installed the windows live for windows mobile version 10.6.0034.0800 fixed.
When i'm using this messenger, how i'm being billed. Data? or Text message?
I have a unlimited data plan, so i'm hoping i'm not being charged per message. Can anyone help me with this question.
Thanks
The Tilt has Oz Messenger on it which has WLM, AOL, and Yahoo which connects via their phone network and it counts as SMS for every message you send/receive. With the Windows Live Messenger cab, it depends actually, if you are connecting through the ATT network then it's considered SMS but if you connect to the net Wi-Fi, no charges except whatever you pay for Wi-Fi (like pay hotspots)
Alemaker
I'm not using the oz messenger with the provided windows live. I'm using another version of the messenger that i found in another thread.
10.6.0034.0800 fixed. version
best way to go then. The Oz Messenger only connects through the ATT network whereas the Windows Live Messenger cab you installed can use either the ATT network or Wi-Fi.That's what I'm using also. Here's another little catch. If you connect using the ATT network(which is then an SMS for each message) if you start a conversation with someone internationally, you are charged international text rates.
Found that out the hard way when a friend in Germany started a convo with me!!
Alemaker said:
With the Windows Live Messenger cab, it depends actually, if you are connecting through the ATT network then it's considered SMS but if you connect to the net Wi-Fi, no charges except whatever you pay for Wi-Fi (like pay hotspots)
Alemaker
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Seriously? I assumed the live messenger cab would use the data connection, not SMS. Does it really send via SMS when on network and wifi when off?
Alemaker said:
best way to go then. The Oz Messenger only connects through the ATT network whereas the Windows Live Messenger cab you installed can use either the ATT network or Wi-Fi.That's what I'm using also. Here's another little catch. If you connect using the ATT network(which is then an SMS for each message) if you start a conversation with someone internationally, you are charged international text rates.
Found that out the hard way when a friend in Germany started a convo with me!!
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Well....
I'm screwed, thanks for your help.
anyone else ?
Unless they changed it really recently, I tested it-on ATT=SMS, I barely text anyone and when my friend I.M.'ed me from Germany, all those showed on my bill as international SMS-on Wi-Fi=no charges
That's why I dumped Oz Messenger
are you still using the windows messenger cab?
Yup I'm using the exact one you listed. I just try not to use it while I'm on the ATT network cuz I only have the 200 message plan but it doesn't matter to me as alot of times I'm in a area with Wi-Fi so I just disconnect the ATT data connection and connect via Wi-Fi
gai-jin said:
Seriously? I assumed the live messenger cab would use the data connection, not SMS. Does it really send via SMS when on network and wifi when off?
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It's easy to check,
Just start a conversation with someone using Windows Live Messenger on your phone and write down the exact time and date then check your next bill. All data and texts are time stamped on the bill.
Alemaker said:
It's easy to check,
Just start a conversation with someone using Windows Live Messenger on your phone and write down the exact time and date then check your next bill. All data and texts are time stamped on the bill.
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So as long as i use wifi i dont have to pay right?
and how do u disconnect the att connection?
correct; and just click on the 3G or Edge icon and a small menu will show up with a disconnect option button, if you are using a cooked ROM, then open Comm Manager directly and disconnect the data connection.
Alemaker said:
correct; and just click on the 3G or Edge icon and a small menu will show up with a disconnect option button, if you are using a cooked ROM, then open Comm Manager directly and disconnect the data connection.
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K....
Thanks
Windows Live using SMS?!? I don't use MSN messinger very often, but I don't remember it using SMS, it uses data.
the version of the messenger that i have i believe is the one the one that comes with the new windows mobile 6.1. I know that the messenger that came with my tilt uses sms messages instead of data. I guess i will be using OCTRO TALK.
Any other messenger suggestions?
GWelker62 said:
Windows Live using SMS?!? I don't use MSN messinger very often, but I don't remember it using SMS, it uses data.
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As this seems to need clarification, I spoke with ATT data tech support and per ATT, when you use an I.M. client directly ( not going to the net and using a web based I.M.) it is billed as I.M. which is text.
If you connect to the net with MediaNet and then go to WL Mobile website or Yahoo website etc. and use I.M. web-based, it is data, but directly connecting with the WLM cab or the proprietary Oz I.M., it is billed as text even though it uses the MediaNet connection.
ATT Tilt here and using the latest WL (10.6.0034.0800 fixed) and .0600 before it. On an unlimited data connection (PDA Personal Max I believe).
I use it regularly and never see any text message usage - I have read numerous postings that back that up? I'm not saying I don't believe what Alemaker is saying, I just find it hard to believe. I've just never had it use my text messages and neither have any of the other folks in my office (7 of us here with Tilt's and all using with IM).
NOTE - If you use the built in OZ IM, yes it will use sms text messages. This is not Windows Live though. It is an app that allows you to connect to the major IM networks. WL is designed to use an internet connection (IE Data, Wifi, etc.).
That's fine-I have seen billed as text them from international I.M.'s and to be honest, the CSR's at ATT gave me conflicting answers themselves, one said data, one said text and one even said billed same as e-mail(data). So that's why I contacted data tech support. And if it truly does turn out to use data-all the better. Just stating what I have seen. I don't I.M. mobile alot to begin with but just I.M.'ed someone using the WLM cab app and will look at my next bill
TCreed said:
I use it regularly and never see any text message usage - I have read numerous postings that back that up? I'm not saying I don't believe what Alemaker is saying, I just find it hard to believe. I've just never had it use my text messages and neither have any of the other folks in my office (7 of us here with Tilt's and all using with IM).
NOTE - If you use the built in OZ IM, yes it will use sms text messages. This is not Windows Live though. It is an app that allows you to connect to the major IM networks. WL is designed to use an internet connection (IE Data, Wifi, etc.).
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I agree... What the others are saying about Windows Live Mobile (replaced Mobile MSN) I can't agree with. Windows Live syncs my Hotmail and has a mobile MSN messinger client. And so far I haven't seen it use SMS for IMs.
knight2424 said:
I been reading other threads and i cannot find an answer. I even called att and they were no help.
I installed the windows live for windows mobile version 10.6.0034.0800 fixed.
When i'm using this messenger, how i'm being billed. Data? or Text message?
I have a unlimited data plan, so i'm hoping i'm not being charged per message. Can anyone help me with this question.
Thanks
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if you are using that version of WLM then i can garuntee you that you are using data and not text. There are several clients that support WLM including oz messenger that use texts, but the windows mobile version you described definitely uses data.
Hi Guys,
I have instant messenger which is not working properly then i got the Yahoo Go Installed on my phone but it doesn't has yahoo messenger in it. Can anyone give me the link to download Yahoo Messenger only?
Regards,
Siddh
Palringo works well
www.palringo.com/
I prefer octrotalk - like palringo it uses your data plan rather than sms. Still in beta but I prefer it to palringo.
http://www.octrotalk.com
siddesh_0110 said:
Hi Guys,
I have instant messenger which is not working properly then i got the Yahoo Go Installed on my phone but it doesn't has yahoo messenger in it. Can anyone give me the link to download Yahoo Messenger only?
Regards,
Siddh
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Check my link for OZ instant messenger or search there is an active thread going on right now about the best IM messenger.
as with various meesangers whom rely on proxies......
kcjunk said:
I prefer octrotalk - like palringo it uses your data plan rather than sms. Still in beta but I prefer it to palringo.
http://www.octrotalk.com
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Reading the part of the contractual agreement, concerns become a little too uncomfortable.
TERMS AND CONITIONS OF THE OCTROTALK SERVICE PROXY AGREEMENT:
I understand and agree that OctroTalk proxy server may be acting on my behalf in relaying my messages to some or all of the IM networks and to my device. I understand that data transmitted from my device can go through a proxy operated by Octro, and can be stored temporarily or permanently there.
I agree that Octro has no responsibility or liabilityfor the deletion of, or the failure to store or to transmit, any content and other communications maintained or transmitted by OctroTalk.
BeeJive Messenger if you have a data plan
http://www.beejive.com/download/winmo/
It is beta, but its free at this point. It really works well in my opinion. I have used octrotalk as well and this is much better.
usually yahoo go have the messenger too, try redownload,.
or the one i like the best is Beejive IM,.
Hi,
So far I couldn't find any yahoo or msn messenger for android. Is there any?
Which IM for yahoo, msn do you use ?
Is there any IM for android which connects directly to the yahoo/msn server (unlike meboo, ebuddy)?
Is there any messenger which supports multi gmail accounts?
Thanks in advance.
Hi there
Try Truphone or Fring
ebuddy works great
Hi Msn is working flawlessly for me, although i am unsure if it supports yahoo messenger.
There is also an app called NimBuzz which supports windows live, yahoo, AIM, Skype, Facebook, Gtalk, My space, ICQ.. and soo much more...
Check it out.. i use it mostly for Skype Calls but everything else seems to work amazing when i first set it up.
There are also several apps that work without extra Server.
I'm using ICQ and MSN. I can't say anything about yahoo...
By far the best App I have tested was IM+. Too sad it costs way too much...
The built-in t-mobile app also connects directly. I used it for several days. works fine (ICQ is the same protocol as AIM)
but now I'm on Meebo. I like to have the same History on Phone and PC.
the "IM" app that comes on CM roms (i believe its the T-Mobile one) is a great app that works great, only downside is on Rogers network you cannot connect as it will try and verify by sim. You will need to be on wifi to use "IM" but i still love this app
i also use Nimbuzz but have had some issues as of late with it dropping (could be the phone too )
hi yahoo
there is a hi yahoo app. works well for me, but right now i go back & forth between meebo & ebuddy.
I just dun like the way all these messenger design. These company can make better layout, fonts and feature for Iphone and why not Android? Just disappointed.
IM+ (the conversation layout very very bad. Words too small can't change font and stupid color)
Palringo (All the buddy(contact) squeeze into one. Very difficult to locate friend)
Meebo ( I hate to login meebo inorder to use MSN/Yahoo, buddy layout very bad)
MSN Droid (Not bad so far. Only support MSN and no yahoo.)
ebuddy ( Another one need ebuddy account. conversation fonts too small)
Android IM ( So far so good but will disconnect if phone go to sleep. Maybe its design to work with SMS)
You guys forgot BuddyMob
Plus: You can choose your own Messenger Picture, MultiLogin (connect from your homecomputer AND your Android Phone the same time) is supported, swipe function is included
Minus: No Ring for MSN, no Send Files, no smileys
Used it for months, now i'm looking for something new
eBuddy works for me... careful with gtalk though - it sets your status to an ad.
On the MyTouch 3G there is an almost sort of half-decent app which includes MSN, Yahoo and I think it is AIM. At least you get to see your buddies online and it is over the data network, but as mentioned already you have to be on wi-fi to sign in unless you are on T-Mobile's data network as the phone uses only T-Mo's SIM info (and wifi) to let you sign in. The question is, is there a way to tweak the app so that you can use any carrier and still sign in from the data on your SIM, and how can this be done? I am nearly sure it can be. Can anyone help?
I've been using meebo without any problems.
anyone knows which IM app can do group chats? like in a conversation with more than 2 person? I know ebuddy can't do that... it's really frustrating!
I've found that when using ANY im program it's hard NOT to get dc'd. I have settled on using msn live which is free from the marketplace.it still dc's every now and then but at least now I can have a direct shortcut to msn on my desktop instead of just a general IM shortcut. hope this helps.
I found a Windows Live app (plainly called MESSENGER) on Android Market. It is quite good indeed! I installed it on my Hero and MyTouch 3G After a few days it would not function on the Hero - only force close whenever I launched the app. I uninstalled it from the Hero thereafter. Still works on my MyTouch 3G though. I cannot find it on Android Market anymore - not sure why not.
I use QQ!!!!!!Hoho!!
msn has an official app called MSN Droid, its pretty sick
and they were saying something about a yahoo one coming out soon
try nimbuzz
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