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Please Assist- Cingular 8125 and downgrade options(if any)

I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info

If your phone is CID locked (and it is CID locked by default unless you have unlocked it) upgrading to the 2.25 ROM has prevented you from using the free tools on this site to do the unlock.
If you want to CID unlock you will have to pay for the http://imei-check.co.uk service. It claims to do both a SIM and CID unlock and is currently the only known way to CID unlock ROMs that are version 2.21 and higher. If you wait, a free solution will no doubt come out but if you want it now, it's going to cost you £20/$40.
Once the Wizard is CID unlocked you can flash any Wizard ROM you choose to it.

Re: Please Assist- Cingular 8125 and downgrade options(if an
aixenv said:
I have currently the following:
IPL 2.25
SPL 2.25
GSM 2.25.11
OS 2.25.11.1
I am a self proclaimed newb when it comes to cell phone mods, however i've started to research on this site and read a few of faria's and other people threads. I have come to the conclusion i'd like to test out summiters AKUv2.3 ROM, however from what im reading it seems since my phone is NOT CID locked i can not first downgrade to unlock the CID (needing what i believe is an <v2.21) to then flash the rom to his custome rom. although i also saw where someone said they used a cingular shipped rom to downgrade their phone, i believe my phone originally came with v1.18. my other option is to return this phone to the carrier and get another phone which would ship with the v.1.18 or whatever it was and then i can follow faria's thread..
am i correct? or is there the ability to downgrade with my current setup
Thank you, great site, loads of info
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You'll want to flash to the original shipping rom which is on the xda-dev ftp at:
ftp://xda:[email protected]/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
Once that's installed, use awizard or lokiwiz to CID unlock. And once that's done, flash to whichever ROM floats your boat.
Post back here if you run into any snags and can't resolve it reading through the existing messages.
Are you an AIX admin?

ahh yes im now finding on the ftp server
Cingular_RUU_1.8.11.1.WWE.ship.exe
yes linux/UNIX guru (AIX, FreeBSD, SUSE, etc) & phone noob, go figure..
im seeing conflicting statements here, 1 saying i can just downgrade to my shipped rom, the other saying i cant.
i received the phone yesterday, read up on some of the apps to try out, saw the new rom out, decided to try that out, did a soft reset on cingular extrom and then well have what i have, now i wanted to play a little more and test other peoples roms out and yet with no CID lock which would be the default i was under the impression i was SoL.. is that not correct? JUST to reverify with conflicting reports

after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough

aixenv said:
after doing some more research i'm not sure which way is the accurate position, i read on one forum that there is a locking done once you go past the v2.21 rom so you cant downgrade to then Cid unlock, but then i've read other places you can, im downloading the v1.8.11.1 file and i guess ill find out soon enough
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Try it, the worst that will happen is that you get an error saying that you can't flash an older Rom (than what is already installed).

well the update (downgrade to v1.8 shipped rom from 2.25) util is at 75% atm, .. will update accordingly....

ok well it ran the "downgrade" with no problems, i soft reset on the cingular apps, and when the system boots back up i get the following:
IPL = 1.08
SPL = 2.25
GSM = 1.09.11
OS = 1.8.11.1
so from what ive read on the forums i think it's a good thing i asked them to overnight me a new phone due to faulty reception (which is true it doesn't get the reception a buddies gets)..because i would assume with the SPL at > 2.25 i wouldnt be able to unlock the CID, correct?

Confused about ROM install

Just after I got my 8125 I upgraded the ROM to 2.25. I didn't unlock anything. Its running fine. Now I'm interested to try a different ROM. I understand I will need to CID unlock my device. Here is where I'm confused, if it is possible or not after upgrading to 2.25? Can I follow the steps to downgrade my ROM and unlock the CID?
I have searched and been reading alot but I'm still a bit confused, so please be gentle as I ask for some guidance. I have experience modifying Motorola phones, but am new to PocketPC. Any help is appreciated.

Good if you can provide info on how you upgraded your unit (e.g. with the providers official ROM or with the software and ROMS in this forum, etc)
And how you intended to down grade your ROM? You also mentioned the 'steps' to follow, of which steps are you refering to?
And, why do you want to have your phone CID unlocked? CID lock will not bug most people unless they are going for a ROM flashing. CID lock is different from `phone lock` or `SIM lock`.
Just incase you are wonder, what is CID, ... don't ask me. I have no idea at all Seriously.

I upgraded a stock 8125 (G3) to the Cingular 2.25 official ROM. I would like to install a summiter or mr. clean custom ROM. Searching through the messages here I'm unable to determine for certain if I'm able to CID unlock from 2.25 on my own (for free), but I get the impression I cannot. I just want to know for sure before attempting anything further.
I won't need step-by-step instruction...just need to know what my options are at this point.
Last nite I tried to install the summiter ROM without the bootloader. And the install went fine and completed 100% without error. But after the reboot I found the flash didn't hold, it was basically like a hard reset.

First download and install the Cingular 1.8 Rom
If that works fine then you should be able to CID unlock.
If not then try downloading and installing the "Button 1.05" Rom.
If either of these dowgrades worked for you, searck for LokiWiz (use ver 0.2 for CID unlock) and follwo the instructions.
Next if you want to SIM Unlock find LokWiz MSL 0.3 as it does a better SIM unlock than the older LokiWiz. Again follow the instructions.
Now you should be good..

Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?

Stinkfist said:
Sorry if I wasn't clear, but its the downgrading I am concerned about. I'm not certain if it is possible to downgrade (including bootloader) from 2.25 without the device being CID unlocked..?
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Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00

kyphur said:
Having a G3 device you can downgrade.
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Perfect...I will try it.
You must downgrade to CID unlock unless you want to pay imei-check $40.00
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Yeah, that much I do understand. I definately want to avoid paying to unlock.
Thanks for your help! I'll let you know how it goes.

Success! SIM/CID unlocked.
IPL 2.24
SPL 2.24
GSM 02.25.11
OS 2.24.10.1
Thanks kyphur, for taking a moment to point a noob down the right path.

kinda brick need to upgrade rom!

ok so i kinda f'ed up my phone..
the specs are
IPL:1.08
SPL:1.08
OS:1.8.11.1
and i decided to flash the radio rom 2.47.11 and now it freezes when i try to enter in my password at start up..i read that what i need to do is get it into bootloader and flash a 2.x rom on it but when i try to pres the reset button and the 2 buttons on the right side it just normally starts up..also how would i upgrade to a 2.x rom..or is there any way to downgrade back to the stock radio rom? also my phone is unlocked
thanks
keith
edit:
could i downlod the RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship.exe rom and flash that onto my phone and have it work...still cant figure out how to get the bootloader screen to come up

yes after doing some more reading i realized i had to hold down the camera button and the start button until the bootloader came up..then i just pluged it in and ran the radio rom of 1.x and it worked yea!! mbe later i will try to upgrade the rom lol

CID unlock it while it is still working with your current ROM
IPL:1.08
SPL:1.08
OS:1.8.11.1
Then stick Molskis G3 ROM on it and you will be sorted.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274316
for more info.

woudl i be able to go to htc.com and upgrade do the rom upgrade there without havin to cid unlock?

Yes, you can upgrade a Cing 8125 with the officially released Rom (as posted on HTC's Website) without CID unlocking your device.

i do not need to upgrade the IPL/SPL first since i have 1.08?

keith1569 said:
i do not need to upgrade the IPL/SPL first since i have 1.08?
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Official Rom Updates include the IPL/SPL. If you download and flash the Cingular 2.25 Rom you will have IPL/SPL 2.25 after the flash.

is that good or would i want to cid unlock my phone first?

keith1569 said:
is that good or would i want to cid unlock my phone first?
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Keith,
If you plan to install cooked Roms then you should CID unlock your phone. Technically CID Unlocking voids your warranty (though I had no problems getting warranty exchange on two previous phones that were CID unlocked).
The main reason to CID Unlock is that you can then install most (generally all) Roms that exist for your device. The only exception would be a G4 only Rom (which has the G4 IPL/SPL only) as your phone is a G3.
If you don't CID unlock then you can't install non-cingular Roms that include IPL/SPL so basically you would have to cook your own Rom if T-Mobile released an OS update that you wanted to use.
I would suggest you do some more reading before you CID unlock or flash anything else to your device.

ok bro thanks for the detailed explanation. I will.def do a lot more reading before I flash my phone or cid unlock it..this is a great forum full of useful information

keith1569 said:
yes after doing some more reading i realized i had to hold down the camera button and the start button until the bootloader came up..then i just pluged it in and ran the radio rom of 1.x and it worked yea!! mbe later i will try to upgrade the rom lol
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Where did you get the radio rom from ????? Do you have a link ????

just type in 2.47 radio rom in a search

keith1569 said:
just type in 2.47 radio rom in a search
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Ok i'll search for it thought maybe you had a direct link lready ....

Looking for any old TMobile ROMS

Hows it going guys this is my first post....ive had so many problems since switching to cingular with my tmobile MDA its hillarious!...i unlocked the MDA...got it too work with Cingular! I thought everything was perfect untill i realized i couldnt receive any text messages from any other carriers. Meaning if i used my cousins cingular phone to text my phone it would work....if i used my sprint phone...nothing would reach my phone...so i serched n applied all kind of cingular MMS GPRS settings .CAB files still nothing. If i put my SIM into an offical cingular phone the same thing happens...so now im hoping if i put the cingular rom on my phone it will make things better.. I need to downgrade first because every CID tool i use wont work but i found out its because i have 2.25 so basically does anyone have an old 1.XX offical T-Mobile ROM backed up anywhere or know how i can receive all text messages from all carriers?? Thanks

welcome...and in the future if you take a few minutes to read the stickies and wiki, you may very well get your answer.
the following link is to a sticky which links to button's 1.05 rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435

well thanks for the help but when i try installing that rom it locks up at 98% everytime and gives me an error....is this becaise of that CID thing is still locked????

Did you follow that tutorial step by step??? I had no problems with the button rom so I am not sure. I myself followed that tutorial when I recently unlocked my MDA and it went without a hitch...make sure you run lokiwiz twice and button twice. Not sure what else to tell you...sorry.

MCarter418 said:
well thanks for the help but when i try installing that rom it locks up at 98% everytime and gives me an error....is this becaise of that CID thing is still locked????
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No, the Button rom is for the purpose of unlocking and is a really low IPL/SPL which was before the CID locking stuff was around.
I've read on another post that someone was having problems flashing the button rom like you are, and they were finally able to flash it by changing their radio rom first (I don't know if they had one of the newer radio's or what). Doesn't make sense to me as I've never seen that before, but what they heck, you could try downgrading to like the 2.19 T-Mo UK radio to see if that helps.
Also, have you tried flashing the T-Mobile 2.26 rom to your phone? Since this is an MDA and you are running Cingular 2.25 it sounds to me like you were already CID Unlocked (and you don't have to downgrade again to switch carrier roms, just switch).
It also is best to remove your sd card when doing the downgrading procedure.

Can't downgrade factory QTEK 9100 for CID unlock.. freezes at 98%. Pls help!!

I'm at wits end and have been trying to do this for weeks straight. It's driving me nuts. First, I read ALL 36 pages of the thread The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435) and all of thread SOLUTION FOUND -CID/sim UNLOCKING FOR WIZARD WITH AKU2 ROMS (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116). Both refer to downgrading to (ftp://xda:[email protected]__RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_101_11210_WWE.exe). It always freezes at 98%. I tried different computers, cleared my Temp files, rebooted the phone and PC.. I tried all this over a dozen time and had to revert back to the factory ROM a dozen times. I even tried xelencin's ROM (T-Mobile_RUU_Wizard_2261020_226_22511_ENG_US.exe) which has a built in CID unlocker and it froze at 98% too!! It didn't unlock my CID either. It's working for everyone else who has Cingular or Tmobile phones, but I think since mine is directly from the factory, it's different. Is there any other ROM I can downgrade to 1.X or a way to CID unlock with my 2.17 (G3 phone). At this point I'm wore out of ideas and will try anything. I would greatly appreciate any help and experiences.

All flashing stalls for a while in different parts of the process showing the red bar in your phone (even @100% in the progress bar), how long have you left the phone in "freezing" status? May be you aren´t giving it enough time...?

try a different computer if its possible, i tried downgrading to button's rom like 10 times on my dell 700m and it got stuck @ 98% everytime, then i went to my desktop and it worked on the first try. best of luck
try searching 98% in the forums' i think other people had the same problem when i searched it months ago

To Unlock 2.xx you can use lokiwiz03
If your looking to CID unlock I believe lokiwiz03 will do the job. But if your on 1.xx IPL/SPL then you can use lokiwiz02.
MGF

I had the same pbl as you your phone is CID locked. to solve it I have uncid my phone by using this toll first:
hard_SPL-G4.exe
you will find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329147
then I have used the toll lokiwiz02b and choosed the option CID unlock.
After that I have try all of the WM6 ROM and it had worked with 100% of them.
Let me know if it have worked for you.
Have Fun

Dcapolungo said:
I had the same pbl as you your phone is CID locked. to solve it I have uncid my phone by using this toll first:
hard_SPL-G4.exe
you will find it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329147
then I have used the toll lokiwiz02b and choosed the option CID unlock.
After that I have try all of the WM6 ROM and it had worked with 100% of them.
Let me know if it have worked for you.
Have Fun
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Let me correct you here,your phone is semi CID unlocked due to 'HardSPL',it's not permanently CID unlocked or get it unlocked by lokiwiz02b,it didn't do anything,who gave you this impression,that you can CID unlock a G4 device with lokiwiz02b and that to after performing 'HardSPL'.you are upgrading to all wm6 latest custom built Roms,cuz your phone is HardSPL and all the new Roms do not include IPL/SPL in them,but never try to flash a rom with IPL/SPL in it,you'll "Brick" your phone,ok,even if you try to flash the official carrier's Rom,which includes IPL/SPL in it,will brick it,until and unless you remove the 'HardSPL' from your phone.
A permanently CID unlocked by lokiwiz02b can only happen with a G3 device and it can be flashed with any rom,even if it contains ipl/spl.
SO, don't post a wrong advise to guys,like this.
Cheers !!!