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Alternative device for QTek 2020 or 2020i

Hi all,
We developed software that suits well on 2020 and 2020i. Yesterday, I noticed that the Qtek 2020i isn't available anymore!
Now we are looking for an alternative device that has the same functionalities as the 2020i WITHOUT any fragile keyrboard.
What we need is:
- GSM / GPRS
- Bluetooth
- SD-cardslot
- 3,4 " screen
- Camera on board
What are alternative devices on the market??
Sam

Charmer, Prophet, Wizard are the HTC devices currently available, see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_PhoneModels
The processors are < Alpine. I think Prophet is the only one with a full size sd. All are WM2005.
Or have a look at your local www.expansys.com site.

Hi Kevino,
kevino said:
Charmer, Prophet, Wizard are the HTC devices currently available.
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Charmer: only has 2.8" screen
Prophet: only has 2.8" screen
Wizard: only has 2.8" screen AND keyboard
kevino said:
Or have a look at your local www.expansys.com site.
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I did this also and noticed E-ten, but they all have a 2.8" screen... :?
Any other suggestions?
Sam

Oops, diddnt notice the screen size
Don't Mio do a 'fullsized' one. The 701 has 2.7" but I thought there was another. Did a quick google but I couldn't find it.
[EDIT] Looking at http://www.mio-tech.be/products/ looks like if they did it is discontinued

i am also searching for an alternative. the alpine is almost 2 years old and the most companys just won´t to build in an 520mhz processor like in the alpine. so what is the improvement?? 3.2 inch display is also ver rare...
Has anyone of you got a device with less than 520mhz and uses powerful gps navigation like igo? what is your experience? is 400mhz (not to mention 200mhz) with windows mobile 6 enough?
I can´t belive that i have to pay 500 bugs to get a device with a new OS and LESS mhz!!!
by the way...the universal is much to big for me.
please post your opinions!!! thx.

I have the same opinion. I also don't want to buy slower device...

I have a Panda (P6300) on order. The specs are similar and the form factor nearly identical
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=735&id2=164
I'm not familiar with the Alpine, but a lot of reviewers are calling the Panda a throwback, or retro device and mentioning it in the same breath as the Alpine.
The Panda is only running at 400Mhz, but perhaps the reported speediness of WM6 might help to make up some of the difference in that regard, as compared to the Alpine's 520Mhz processor. It ships with WM5, but there is speculation that HTC will offer a WM6 upgrade.

panda?
hi, the panda seems to be a really good device.... where did you order it?? and how much?? thank you very much for further information!

I ordered mine from Dynamism. They don't carry them so it was a special order. It only took them 5 days to get it there, and they shipped it to me on Friday. I should have it Tuesday. I've seen them around from $629 - $749US. Mine was right in the middle, though I can't quote you an exact price as it was special order. You can call them to find out what they would charge you.
I hope it is good device. It is nothing fancy and has drawbacks, but it should serve me well so long as it does well what it is supposed to do.
Good Luck!

Why don't we try to get the WM 5.0 out of the panda and try it in our ALPINEs
Did any one try to do that ?

BT have a new one out aimed at the Corporate user who missed something similar to the XDA2i with its larger screen. Cant remember what it is called but it is the same form factor as the XDA2i just WM5 and a better camera. Made specially for them by HTC.

The new o2 one with a 3.5 inch screen is called the XDA Argon basically an updated XDA2i, think it came out in July

Htc Replies to Video Driver problem!

But it does not look good for us. I think we're going to have to rely on developers to release drivers for us, not HTC
"HTC believes the overall value of its devices based on their combination of functionality and connectivity exceeds their ability to play or render high-resolution video. These devices do still provide a rich multimedia experience comparable to that of most smartphones and enable a variety of audio and video file formats," reads the official response, in part. Furthermore, the company has officially confirmed that Imageon drivers are not in use on the affected devices, but that it "plans to include video acceleration hardware in future video-centric devices that will enable high-resolution video support."
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Link

Then its final. no more HTC for me as this will be my last HTC device.

HTC you ruined my day. . . Well, I think that means they want a huge money donation to enable them. . .

Yeah no more HTC for me. Everyone who wanted the driver issues fix should agree that when they buy their next PPC make sure it's not an HTC

Fantastic. Perfect. Top notch. [/sarcasm]
So, in light of problems being fixed as they should be, the new issue is with what to replace the Kaiser?
Where oh where is the M8??

What they basically said is that "yea, we know there is no hardware acceleration, but if you really want it you are going to have to give us even more money by buying our next gen handset, bc we aren't fixing it in this one".
I used to rave about my 8125 to everyone. It's too bad HTC is taking the position they are. Never again will I buy a product from HTC or recommend them to anyone else. My next handset will be from i-mate.

yeah i-mate I never thought of them. I wonder if they have anything with touch screen and a full keyboard

Okay, so whos up for a nice class action lawsuit? I'm totally willing to try running HTC into the ground with one.

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yeah i-mate I never thought of them. I wonder if they have anything with touch screen and a full keyboard
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i-mate just annoced last week that they are going back to HTC as the ODM of their phones. I-mate had tried (or was trying with) some other ODMs and it didn't pan out, so they are going back to HTC. If you don't want HTC, then don't buy any future i-mates either....
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/palm-i-mate-others-moving-manufacturing-contracts-back-to-htc/

I think we now need a sticky thread stating "Dont buy HTC products unless you've had your brain removed"
Certainly depending upon who commented to Engadget, we dont know how seriously to take this. But it does look bleak
We all know the existing drivers suck, the phone is buggy
and more to the point for a "premium" product, it doesnt fulfill some functions its predecessors could (its slower than my 3 yr old Wizard at scrolling, camera and opening/closing)

The standard, 'we already got your money response'...
Maybe it would be prudent for a written complaint to the carriers now, if they blow this off on this handset, what makes you think there won't be anything wrong with the next? Maybe they are making a promise on the next? Any takers?
?Glitch

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yeah i-mate I never thought of them. I wonder if they have anything with touch screen and a full keyboard
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That they do. they are actually releasing a kaiser killer very soon - the Ultimate 9502
It uses the exact same chipset as the Kaiser, but I'm guessing it has drivers for hardware acceleration too. It has the same specs as the kaiser (GPS, HSDPA, etc, etc) and features a VGA screen.

Beat me to the 9502. Link - http://www.imate.com/product.aspx?product=ultimate9502

snif...
ah well, here's looking forward to the
toshiba g920
http://www.slashphone.com/111/9012.html
or the imate 9502
http://www.ubergizmo.com/15/archives/2007/10/imate_9502_handson.html
or whenever the he77 apple gets a 3g stick out of their a$$.

smittyofdhs said:
i-mate just annoced last week that they are going back to HTC as the ODM of their phones. I-mate had tried (or was trying with) some other ODMs and it didn't pan out, so they are going back to HTC. If you don't want HTC, then don't buy any future i-mates either....
http://www.engadget.com/2008/01/17/palm-i-mate-others-moving-manufacturing-contracts-back-to-htc/
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ah, craptastic.
well, maybe the linux-palm? or go retro and ditch the convergence altogether?

" In response to recent customer complaints about poor video performance on HTC devices based on the latest Qualcomm MSM7xxx chipsets, HTC is providing the following statement.
HTC is committed to delivering a portfolio of devices that offer a wide variety of communication, connectivity and entertainment functionality. HTC does not offer dedicated or optimized multimedia devices and can confirm that its Qualcomm MSM7xxx-based devices do not use ATI’s Imageon video acceleration hardware.
HTC believes the overall value of its devices based on their combination of functionality and connectivity exceeds their ability to play or render high-resolution video. These devices do still provide a rich multimedia experience comparable to that of most smart phones and enable a variety of audio and video file formats.
HTC values its customers and the overall online community of mobile device enthusiasts and fans. HTC plans to include video acceleration hardware in future video-centric devices that will enable high-resolution video support. "
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this whole statement is very ambiguous and does not state that support for imageon drivers aren't possible on current devices. i think its a pr statement and doesn't reflect what their software team is doing. its very opened ended and we could have support for acceleration but we couldn't as well. this statement doesn't tell us that.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=361580
So htc said that the devices with the latest qualcomm chipsets would have 3d acceleration, but they dont. Has anyone pointed this out before. Im not a tytn ii owner, but ive been following the news, since i wanted one for myself.
But, is this false advertising, saying it will have hardware acceleration and then not giving it, and saying it will never be given in an update.
I think the 9502 is where im going too, we just need a forum on XDA for it.
Rory

Back to palm for me!!!

Guilf said:
Beat me to the 9502. Link - http://www.imate.com/product.aspx?product=ultimate9502
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I wonder if the keyboard is comfortable.
Also, let's say I purchase this phone in March. Would HTC get any of that profit?

I agree with BlueCop, and why is everyone getting so worked up about this? Where there's a demand, drivers will follow - their source is just unclear at the moment.

Dices application

Hi,
Im new here and this is my first post Just bought a TD a few days ago and I must say Im not disappointed. Ive had more than 50 different phones earlier - mostly Nokia and SE. Ive also had a Viewty and Iphone but I must say this TD really blew me away. Ive had one HTC but not for too long som Im pretty new to Windows Mobile.
Now to my question. Does anyone know of an application with a pair of dices that roll when you shake the phone? I know I have seen it before - perhaps it was on the iphone?? The reason I am asking is that I often go to parties and we always forget dices.. would be cool to have them on the phone then
Hope you can help me
Regards
Yesbar

what could be the future for our beloved X1?

I know, i know...there has been said soooo much about the possible ROM-update voor X1 from wm 6.1 to wm 6.5....but there is just still is a bit of a bluh-feeling about the xperia not getting a final boost in performance/experience!
Not one person i know woth a x1 is going to buy the x2, and everyone i know with another phone, and everyone i read about on the net is looking at other phones! the X2 is bound to be a huge flop, simply because they (SE) are running behind! Everyone i know is talking about the HD2 woth its huge screen, or the omnia 2 with its huge screen and bright colors...the iphone is still hot with its huge screen, so is the touch pro 2, the hero, and even the Acer is getting ooohs and aaaahs!!!
And sony is coming with the X2? just compare all those hot phones with the xperia 2....not a great comparison IMHO!
N o, what i think what should be done, is to make the X1-fans more happy with their phone than they ever been, make the product really what it should be...skip the X2...and focus an the x3...(wich should be the true X2)
And because SE isn't doing anything right now about that, i would ask everyone who has the most cleanest wm 6.5 rom to link to the right thread, so any of the new(unexperienced) users can find a way to use their phones as they were brand new!

am with you
looked around for a x1 update to found some clean roms just dont know if its all worth it am not buying the x2 for all you know when we get the x2 the x3 will be out in afew months
pls let me know if you find a 6.5 se update for the x1

The SE rachael is now officially labeled the X10, not X3 anymore.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=564028

Personally I'm shooting for Rachel. I am jumping off the Windows Mobile train.

wifi only gtab

so i just got one as a present. rooted it in seconds but now what? from what ive read here there are no custom roms yet for this version PLUS the bluetooth keyboard i got with it cant even pair because the wifi only has different btooth capabilities apparently? i feel like i have a paper weight! lol unless i overlooked something what are the flashing options for the wifi only gtab?

nevermind. will be returning. hell my phone has more capabilities then this tab. very disappointing sam SUCK.
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Sorry to hear that, he only keayboard working with the P1010 is the Freedom Pro with SSP profile and it works great! the problem is due to the lack of HID profile in Froyo, as far I know this was added in 2.3, and the devices pre-gingerbread that has it is thanks to the manufacturers, like Archos (Awesome custom suport for codecs and profiles).
At first I was feeling the same (Poor bluetooth support and no ad-hoc), but the little guy has grown on me, the p1000 is no option for me as I already have Phone, and planning on buying an Acer Iconia for in house use and leave the P1010 for the outside.