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Hey,
I got some problems(aside from those). i just bought the dopod housing for my cingular 8125 because my old housing was cracked in alot of places. did the whole swap no issues and afterwards i cant seem to get a radio signal. now for anyone who hasn't looked yet there is a strip that is located under the antenna cover that connects to the antenna pins and that (as far as i can see) is touching fine. during the swap i did not touch the antenna itself.
now before anyone thinks it i'll go ahead and let you know i did go through the frustrating process of movign everything back to where it was but nothing changed. i also (on my other pc) am trying to reload the radio rom i was using before to see if that will change anything. so i guess for right now i'm kinda looking for anyone who has faced the same scenario and how they solved it, just incase his doesn't work.
oooooookkkkk.... a bit scared.
my phone just cut off and now wont cut back on.i reloaded the radio rom and it didn't fix anything. then all of a sudden while i was resyncing the damned thing just cut off... WTF!?!
then all of a sudden while i was resyncing the damned thing just cut off... WTF!?!
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battery was charged to "full"?
yeah...
it was. the dmned thing has been F___ing wit me since yesterday.i even used my wife's MDA battery to test it and nothing. for the life of me i can't figure it out i tested the board to see if it shorted somewhere and it was good. i don't understand how it just messed up because i changed the housing?!? so what i might do is take it to the cingular store and have them use the more advanced tests and check it on the energy output to see what happened but if that don't work i might just upgrade my wife's contract(something i've been avoiding) and get the 8525(a hermes, i know) and start over.
but if worst comes to worst i have a question...which is better overall in size,function, and ease of modification? is it the hermes, the titan or the wizard?
in response to your pm...
take the device apart again,clean all the boards and the cables ends[use alcohol only in the cables ends,use a make-up brush to clean the boards cranys etc]...put it back together again very carefully....also do not overtigh the screws or undertigh...good luck....
as for your question above the best device to customize now is the hermes....but i would wait for the hermes II
REGARDS
Be careful with the static!! It may easily kill some IC's!!
There's a reason why the Service Manuals show pictures of people handling phones with gloves... (amongst other equipment)
cheers
mestrini said:
Be careful with the static!! It may easily kill some IC's!!
There's a reason why the Service Manuals show pictures of people handling phones with gloves... (amongst other equipment)
cheers
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good point..forgot that...
i doubt it cause...
i used a wrist static dispencer, trust i know better than to go without one....the user name actually discribes me
Wat R Tha Odds...
alright folks here's the skinny. my 8125 fried, aparently somehow i had enough static to discharge and kill my IC ( yes you guys were right and i thank you for it) and now i guess one option available to me is to get the board replaced (firstly aquiring some static resistant gloves ) does anyone have an idea on where to go for a new board or a good condition used one and roughly the dent to pocket it would be?
ok, couple of things...
Been doing some HW and have a question... just to make sure is the cingular 8525 hermes or titan, or is it that the hermes IS in fact the titan? if someone could answer that in definate it would greately be appreciated. And secondly seeing i decided to get the 8525 not being able to find a motherboard i am selling my 8125. please see the post "BUY/SELL a broken Wizard! Protect our dying breed" for details.
A hermes is a Tytn and a Titan is a different HTC phone. A little confusing, but they are spelled differently.
alright....class summary
so the Cingular 8525 is a hermes, which is a tytn(am i good so far?) which is totally different from the TITAN. SO i need to start reading and studying the tytn and not the titan. Gotcha....i think?
Lol yep, I think. I have a kaiser that should be on it's way to me any day now and it's a Tytn II, but not a Titan II or even a hermes II.
Hi
I've been having trouble with the touchscreen on my MDA Vario III, I'd be grateful from some advice from some of you hardware gurus.
It seems to be detecting phantom touchscreen input, which can prevent it from properly detecting real input. This was evident in the Notes application, if I were to tap around the screen in draw mode it would sometimes draw dots, but often draw a straight or curved line between the last point and the most recent one. I thought something might be pressing on the borders of the screen so I did the thin card round underneath the bezel thing, which if anything made it worse, though that may just be me imagining it.
I sent it off to a local repair firm for a touchscreen replacement, got it back this morning and it seemed to be ok, but not perfect. During the morning, having rerun kaisertweak and installed a couple of cabs, it deteriorated again.
Right now it's cycling round the Alignment Screen, the cross is moving around on its own periodically. If I try tapping the cross it mostly doesn't detect the tap.
So right now, I've got a month old Kaiser, warranty void and insurance not applicable, that I simply can't use!
My question really is, what could the problem be if it isn't the touchscreen/digitizer (they are one unit on the Kaiser aren't they?) and it doesn't appear to be a physical problem with the housing of the screen? Does it imply a mainboard failure?
Does any user configuration at all survive a hard reset? Such as increasing the touchflo sensitivity with Kaiser Tweak?
Thanks
hipster
I did/do have the exact same issue, however on my unit it only happens when using some third party stylii (spelling?)....one old Ipaq 3970 metal stylus, and 2 multifunction pens. Using the onboard stylus (or any other light stylus, like the one from the P3600) I encounter no problems (knock on wood), no matter how hard I poke on the screen....
Unit is over 3 months old - have gotten used to it, just don´t use any heavy/metal stylus.
Your problem, however, seems to be a bit more pronounced.....
Thanks for the reply, michi, though your problem does sound a bit different, if just a change of stylus improves it.
I've tried the stylus from my old Wizard and the arse end of a pen, without success, sadly.
Oddly, I'm starting to think it might be slightly heat related, if I leave the phone off for a while it seems ok, and stops responding to taps more after it's been on for a while. Very strange.
hipster
I knocked up an impression of what I get when tapping in a pattern in the Notes application, image attached.
Reading other posts about perceived performance problems with the Kaiser, I wonder if there are other cases where it seems like it's locked up, but in fact it's just taking an age to figure out what you've just asked it to do, essentially just a problem with the touchscreen, not the whole device. That's definitely one of the symptoms I get....
It's back with the menders now, hopefully, they'll manage to sort it out this time...
Cheers
hipster
Not sure if it could be similar, but I had a Tablet PC which was prone to interference from the power supply. Perhaps this is the case. May the sheilding is not up to snuff? I am by no means an expert, but this might give you another path to explore for problem resolution. Hope it helps.
Hey guys
Just recently got a Tytn II on the UK Orange network. I love it so far but there are a couple of hardware flaws I have noticed and are quite annoying.
1) The front keypad with the call send/end buttons is very loose and wobbles from side to side, as if the hole that it is in is too big for the keys.
2) The space bar on the qwerty keyboard doesnt seem to work all the time, and i will find myself when typing texts/emails with text which looks like "This is at est sentencef or my complaint" if you can see where im pointing. This one is even more so annoying because i have to be careful when typing fast. At first i thought it was something to do with PalmSMS in duttys new ROM but i uninstalled that and the same is happening. I didnt notice it when i first got my kaiser but only after the first 2 weeks have i noticed it.
Hope someone can relate to these problems.
Thanks
-mcall_r
im having the same problem. I've had two different Tilts and the buttons are both very wobbly. Not really a big issue to me though.
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im having the same problem. I've had two different Tilts and the buttons are both very wobbly. Not really a big issue to me though.
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i think its like that for all tilts, my is like that as well, but i havnt really noticed the thing about the space bar though...
ChInEsE ChIcKeN said:
i think its like that for all tilts, my is like that as well, but i havnt really noticed the thing about the space bar though...
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yup, same here. not an "issue" for me though, as it doesn't affect anything. My spacebar works fine, I'm a text maniac so if it wasn't working I'd notice...
If your spacebar is still malfunctioning after flashing a different rom, I'd be concerned. My keypad is much more responsive using a well cooked rom.
Yeah, I'm pretty sure there have been a couple of threads about the general build quality of the Kaiser.
The silver call/send keys on the bottom are really nothing to get too worked up over though.
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yup, same here. not an "issue" for me though, as it doesn't affect anything. My spacebar works fine, I'm a text maniac so if it wasn't working I'd notice...
If your spacebar is still malfunctioning after flashing a different rom, I'd be concerned. My keypad is much more responsive using a well cooked rom.
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Yeah the front keypad doesnt really bother me that much it was just to see if it was common on alot of devices. I actually work in an orange shop and have sold alot of kaisers where the front buttons were fine.
As with the ROM thing, i never thought of that but coming to think of it now i noticed it when i started using duttys latest rom with PALMSMS built in. I tried the non-palmsms version and the same thing occurs. I like that version because anything earlier, xT9 interferes with the hardware keyboard.
What is the exact version of the dutty ROM you are using?
Thanks
Same here wobbly keys bother me at first now I kinda like to wiggle it around when i am bored
I noticed that, too. No big deal, really
I too have the wobbly front keypad. I think its the same for all Kaisers. Nothing to worry about IMO. It works just fine and doesn't look like it'll be breaking anytime soon.
Regarding the spacebar, it actually is 2 keys rolled into one. So if you press in the middle of it, nothing will happen. Try pressing on either the right or the left side and you should have no problem. Takes an hour to get used to it
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Same here wobbly keys bother me at first now I kinda like to wiggle it around when i am bored
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LOL you might want to reword that
and Pheonix, i know that i had always been typing properly before and it was fine, it was just the ROM i was using. I reloaded it and its fine, no problems!!!!
Cheers for all your input guys
WOW .. i didnt expected soo many guys with the same wobbly issue... i was really annoyed by it .... Especially when i am playing any Game which requires fast repsonse.... i once tried to put a piece of small paper under the Buttons .. so it would fix it in place... but after that buttons didnt work properly... but after 6 months of usage .. i now hardly notice the Wobbly Front Pad...
I'm on my 2nd kaiser (both tilt variants) and they both had the d-pad slides on both of them. I noticed its more on the left side, where the answer button is, it'll move up and down.
Also if what you type comes out slow on a rom, try the disable xt9 cab floating around, i know that was the fix for some of the roms.
Kinda sucks when what your typing comes out messed up and you send it without reading it and then people think your drunk... not good for business!
front keypad, ironically, just started to wiggle around yesterday. I've had it about a month (Kaiser-TytnII Pro). No issues with the inside keyboard(yet) though
hmmmm seems to be a flaw in all kaisers.
i dont think the t-mobile MDA version would be like that though.. the keypad is different on theirs.
Unfortunately when mine wobbles up too far in either the up or down direction the d-pad intermittently does not function properly... that is, if I press up or down it does not work a percentage of the time. Anyone know if there is a fix (I'm assuming hardware fix) for this issue? Otherwise the device is fine and I'd prefer not too have to send it back.
maybe this issue is the reason why T-Mobile has a different front-keypad on the MDA Vario 3. Mine fits like a glove.
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maybe this issue is the reason why T-Mobile has a different front-keypad on the MDA Vario 3. Mine fits like a glove.
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Yes, but the T-Mobile one is fugly and I want to get rid of it. I've bought the original one but the change is a little bit slippery.
I've got my Wizard G4 a few days ago, and ever since, when it's not been used for a while, and is freshly turned on (mainly when there is a lot of black/white contrast on the screen, such as text etc), it would at first display the correct text, then 'fade' to the brightly colored patterns show in the thumbnails below. Interestingly this ONLY happens when the keyboard is 'in', this has never happened when its drawn out. I at first thought this was a software problem, however after flashing first the Slim Edition v2.2 ROM, and the latest TNT ROM the situation didn't improve.
Consequently, I am inclined to think this is a hardware issue, perhaps some bad contacts or something? I have tried to research this but have found nothing much apart from the Wizard Service Manual.
Has anyone encountered, or better still, solved this problem? I'll have a go at repairing the contacts, but would still like your experiences/advice as well.
Thanks in advance!
Nice pictures.You have problems with the cable connecting the screen and the main board. We should buy a new and changing.
Thanks, I'll have a look first, hopefully its just loose, cos similar ones look pretty expensive on eBay... Any chance you could suggest a source?
Thanks
HTC 8125 FLEX CABLE 8125/Cingular 8125
Roughly £15 from eBay... Cheers! I'll report any progress as I make it... Thanks again!
I just got my Diamond back from repairs and wanted to compare experiences:
1)
I first bought a Diamond two months ago. It came with 1.37 ROM series on it, the screen wasn't too yellowish, but touch function wasn't responsive and the GPS was a MESS!
(of course, I tried many ROMs official and unofficial, almost every Radio ROM and various Hard-SPL. None of that fixed the problems.)
I could cope with with the other flaws, but I just couldn't bear my GPS wasn't getting a fix, no matter how much sattelits were in view...
It worked at first, but soon started to display '66666' instead of the location and finally, it would never display any location again.
I tried every tips and tricks and softs, it helped giving me more and more satellits in view and apparently active, but at the end my crappy GPS could never turn the datas received into a proper location...
2)
I sent my device back to warranty (after flashing back to official ROM and SPL) and had to wait for about a month.
(the technician at first tought I was just a noob unable to set his phone properly, but after two days of attempts, he had to admit that there was something wrong with my phone and sent it to the the headquarter for replacement of motherboard and so on.
3)
The new phone I got came directly with 1.93 ROM and a little bit more yellowish screen, though, there is no spot or stain on it. So the coulour doesnt bother me.
But from the beginning I noticed the new phone was much more responsive even at the slightest touch.
From the first try, the GPS got a fix in about 1 mn time, with only 3-4 satelits in view.
I installed Hard-SPL and the latest Australian Official ROM, and though the screen seems now a little less responsive than before, the GPS is still working, fine.
I'm a VERY happy user of Diamond now, but I'm still wondering one thing:
it looks like once the warranty technicians understood that I was very demanding about quality and complete functions, they took time but gave me a phone totally different in terms of behaviour and quality of the components sensitivity of screen, GPS etc.
Is there some bad production series that they never tells publicly about, and much more better series that they give you as a replacement once they understand you will bother them until the end of time if you are not satsified?
Plz tell your experience about having received two new diamonds with totally different behaviour and quality of the components.
I guess you are totally right!!!
My first device was pealing paint in the aluminium frame on the second day, work very good by the way.
Now i´m on the second device and i my hardware keys, especially the call button is sometimes irresponsive and i have to push it several times to enter the dial.
Tried cooked rooms as well, and the call button issue still remains, so i´m a little unhappy with my diamond experience.
I've noticed that whenever i turn on my display after having left the diamond unused for sometime the lcd doesn't switch on smoothly, what i mean is that it first displays a grey pattern(only for a ms or so) and then the desktop( lcd off>>grey flash>>desktop). Usually the transition from off to desktop is quite smooth, but in my case its not!
Is this a s/w issue or h/w ?
I've never experienced that particular problem myself, but sounds like H/W problem to me...
just been through a couple of other threads related to the grey screen of death...i've had it once...it happened while i ended a call, had to soft reset to resolve it.
take a look at the grey screen of death i'm talking about
Pretty scary indeed!
It might not be a coincidence that you experienced both: grey transition when switching on the screen and once, the grey screen of death after a call...
Two different effects of the same defective part in your H/W?
a solution!, almost
untill now i've had auto brightness control switched off and the brightness was set to minimum to save battery life, but now i just tried switching on auto adjust backlight and the problem seems to have vanished.....coming out of standby is smooth as ever!
although i've to say that i don't quite understand the logic behind it.
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it doesn't help for long
blufade said:
a solution!, almost
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This is what I was worrying about...
Your method sounded like a work around to avoid the display failure. But as a matter of fact, there must be a reason for the display to fail. (bad screen, power supply or something...)
By the way, I'm more and more convinced about my assumption that there are bad production series and better ones:
Today I had my device connected to my PC through USB for a couple of hours. In the meantime, I was downloading and deleting messages, watching google video on opera, after that I used wifi etc.
In this situation, my first Diamond would have got hot like hell and my hand could barely stand the pain...
Since many people were complaining about over-heat problems, I thought that was a common problem with Diamond.
But the new one did not get that hot. Just a little over-warmed, but definitely not too hot. From that phenomenon, I can see what I felt about a better touch-flow behaviour, a better GPS and so on is a part of a whole:
I was first sold a ****ty phone, and now I finally got a proper Diamond!
People with bad series, you don't have to cope with all those troubles, ask for a replacement phone!
my diamond gets heated up quite a bit at times....but i dont fully uderstand what exactly is the cause.....i've had experiences with the diamond getting pretty hot while using wifi & or gps and on another occasion i was watching a DVDRIP via wifi(@ full power) using core player and also with gps cycle running in the backgroud, still the diamond stayed well within reasonable limits.
i think it has to be a software problem, possibly the radio s/w
would you mind sharing the radio version of your diamond?
As written in my signature, I'm using the 1.00.25 which is included in all latest official ROMs.
By the way, I hope you did not cast a spell on me! (just kidding)
Today I experienced my first grey screen!!!
My Diamond was connected to the PC through USB cable, downloading e-mails, and I got a phone call. When I hung the phone, It suddainly happened, for the first time in my Diamond user carreer!
Just for one second, looking like an old black and white TV screen trying to tune on channels.
Hope that was the first and last time. In ordinary calls, (without being synchronized to the PC at the same time, it never happened so far...
sorry to hear that my friend
My Diamond was connected to the PC through USB cable, downloading e-mails, and I got a phone call. When I hung the phone, It suddainly happened, for the first time in my Diamond user carreer!
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I'd the same experience except for the fact that my diamond wasn't connected to a PC.
I hard reseted my diamond yesterday, but the grey splash while i turn on the display from standby(post 3) still exists ( ......i don't suppose its a software problem anymore.
blufade said:
i don't suppose its a software problem anymore.
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Why not trying to send it back to the seller and get a new one?
This problem is easy to demonstrate to the technicians, and I don't think they will be cheeky enough to say that's a normal phenomenon!
This problem is easy to demonstrate to the technicians, and I don't think they will be cheeky enough to say that's a normal phenomenon!
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not that easy.....the thing is that if we turn on & off the lcd without a gap of atleast 4-5 min(dono exactly) i dont see that grey splash
i think im going to wait another 3-4 months before i approach for warranty.
I had that "gray splash" problem with my Kaiser and Diamond.
Hard reset also didn't work like above. For both devices the fix was simply flashing to a different (cooked) ROM.
As mentioned in another thread, the grey screen problem was fixed (as least for me when I flashed to dutty's rom)
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not that easy.....the thing is that if we turn on & off the lcd without a gap of atleast 4-5 min(dono exactly) i dont see that grey splash
i think im going to wait another 3-4 months before i approach for warranty.
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You can stay there and wait for 5 more minutes in the shop while they are attending other customers, just to proove your point.
If they are honest, they will not deny the fact!
foxium said:
I had that "gray splash" problem with my Kaiser and Diamond.
Hard reset also didn't work like above. For both devices the fix was simply flashing to a different (cooked) ROM.
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knave said:
As mentioned in another thread, the grey screen problem was fixed (as least for me when I flashed to dutty's rom)
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There might be some tweaks in the cooked ROMs that avoid the problem, or it might be due to some bad flashing or defective hardware.
If not, how do you explain that I've never experienced this with my previous HTC phones (wizard, Trinity...) nor I experienced it with my Diamonds (the first one and the new one) with stock or cooked ROMs.
except for that very special time, when I received a call while downloading messages through Active Sync.