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best "stolen phone" program?

what do you guys recomend for one of those "stolen phone" programs, and tracking your phone if it ever gets stolen?

SPRITE TERMINATOR or WIMP ..... but the programs are only good as long as you don't hard reset the device..... Once the device Hard reset EVERYTHING GONE

Thanks for the tip

There is always possibility to cook program with your settings inside ROM... so hard reset won't help... but cooking with settings - that's not easy.

_mike_ said:
There is always possibility to cook program with your settings inside ROM... so hard reset won't help... but cooking with settings - that's not easy.
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Now we know that we can cook a program into ROM.. Although i am aware of the fact that there are so many Cooking Guides available here in the forum and that also become a problem for me to choose a best step by step guide for cooking ROM and adding a program into it.... could some one translate this for me....

I use mobile justice. So far haven't had to use it, so I really can't comment on it to much, I did play with it a little and like it.

max621 said:
SPRITE TERMINATOR or WIMP ..... but the programs are only good as long as you don't hard reset the device..... Once the device Hard reset EVERYTHING GONE
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thanks, i did have WIMP on my phone before, then after many rom flashes its gone, ill try the sprite one.

mikeeey said:
thanks, i did have WIMP on my phone before, then after many rom flashes its gone, ill try the sprite one.
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You must try it Mate... since i myself using Terminator and its quite good.. BTW have you tried to cook any of the software into ROM with required phone numbers ?

On a somewhat related note, generally what happens to stolen PDA/Phones?
The reason for this question was that I was looking at "Ultimate Theft Alert v3" after seeing a link in someone's signature. I thought it sounded like a good idea, but I was aware that a hard reset would kill any protection that the program would offer.
So I was wondering what would happen. If the want the data from the phone they would be hoping it wouldn't lock, because if it does you can't get in to get the data easily. If it does lock and the SIM is still in (or it is taken out and not replaced), I assume there is some way to get round it (like auto-run from an SD card and copy off the data) and it won't have dialled home. Once that is done they can ditch the device....
If they do want the device, they will try and use it and, if it has a lock on it, they will have to hard-reset to get it in. If they had used a similar device before, they might hard-reset anyway.
So this means that most likely the device will not get the chance to dial home given most of these types of software don't auto-cook themselves.
If it is cooked into the ROM it would stand a much better chance of being able to dial home, but if it was not automated I would wonder if it was all worth it. By this time your data is safe (I am assuming you encrypted your SD card and the hard reset will have wiped the device ASSUMING the thief didn't manage to get data off while it was locked) and insurance will no doubt get you a new one.
So.... has anyone managed to use this type of software to retrieve their stolen phone?

GPS
Do any of these programs turn on your GPS and let you know the location of your phone as well as sending out an SMS? I thought I heard there are programs out there that do that.

yeah i heard about a program that would that i dont know if the ones they were talking about above do that thouhg. it was cool u send a text message with a code in it to your phone and your phone kicks you back the location of the phone

umvagia0 said:
Do any of these programs turn on your GPS and let you know the location of your phone as well as sending out an SMS? I thought I heard there are programs out there that do that.
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The one I referred to (Ultimate Theft Alert) claims it. I don't use it, so I don't know how effective it is.

umvagia0 said:
Do any of these programs turn on your GPS and let you know the location of your phone as well as sending out an SMS? I thought I heard there are programs out there that do that.
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As i mentioned before, i am using SPRITE TERMINATOR and i do throughly test it. It do send me the GPS coordinates on the given mobile number and i also try the WIPE command from the other mobile phone for Data deltion and that command successfully delete the whole data including the Storage card... But after the deletion it locked the device..... But for GPS the device must be outside otherwise u have to send the command again....

Stupid question

I know that this is daft, but I am just looking for a bit of reassurance before I do this. I have checked the wiki and searched, but cannot found a specific answer to the question, probably because it is too basic.
If I hard reset my device, which is a O2 Stellar branded model with the stock ROM, will it reset to the condition in which it was shipped to me as new, with the software that O2 preloaded onto it?
I found it to be fast enough out of the box, but have since filled it with all kinds of software. I know exactly what I want on there now, so wish to reset it to it's "virgin" condition and just install what I need.
I know that I need to back up any personal data such as files and contacts, but what about settings for the O2 network? Is this data on the SIM, or part of the ROM, or will it vanish with a hard reset?
Thanks in advance.

Yes, hard reset takes you back to the way it came from the shop. If it was originally O2 customized then that will re-install if you let the hard reset fully complete - you'll see a screen that says installing operator customisation fairly far through the process..
Mike

Thanks Mike, much appreciated.

You can also use the "Clear Storage" exe located in many, if not all Kaiser ROMs.

Can you get the bloatware back...?

Hello! I did some research in the threads about doing the soft reset during the customization-countdown after a hard reset; that removes the AT&T "bloatware". I couldn't find these questions answered, so:
1) JUST in case: Am I correct in assuming that this alteration isn't permanent? I'm thinking that if I don't like what that does to my phone, I can just do another hard reset, and then allow the phone to go through the customization...which will make it just like it was in the first place. Right?
2) On one of the threads here that discusses the procedure, a referral link sent me to the AT&T page about doing hard resets. Of course, AT&T advises against doing the soft-reset-on-countdown, saying that "EMail, Internet, and other applications may not work." I take it that isn't exactly the case...am I right?
One more question...I'm curious if there is any customized ROM out there that has dealt with the storage card driver issue (where every other process "wakes up" or is activated before the storage card).
THANKS!

1) right
2) right
last question...don't know

[Q] Putting anti-theft app inside ROM?

How much will it be if we want to put one of the anti-theft apps inside the ROM, so that it can survive even the hard-resets?
I know that this need to be custom for each user, which means self cooked ROMs with the software installed, registered and configured for per-user.
It can be made through UC but if the SD is not there upon hard reset then it is useless.
has anybody tried it before? will it be hard to do?

mcbyte_it said:
How much will it be if we want to put one of the anti-theft apps inside the ROM, so that it can survive even the hard-resets?
I know that this need to be custom for each user, which means self cooked ROMs with the software installed, registered and configured for per-user.
It can be made through UC but if the SD is not there upon hard reset then it is useless.
has anybody tried it before? will it be hard to do?
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Daran was offering to cook Sprite Terminator into personalized ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448178&highlight=daran
Not sure if he's still doing that, but you could try contacting him.

i search for it too
i find the following program, but withou howto: http://remotetracker.sourceforge.net

I am interested too if its possible. THere are few tutorials to do that but I never been successful in doing it. Hope if someone does that.

i think gpsgate would be god.
It uses imei and (wifi or gprs) . log on the gpsgate page and see where is phone. if its cooked in for YOurself remember to turn off the service after reboot to save battery.
so if the phone will be stolen they will insert ovn card and as soon phone gets wifi or gprs it will send location .
cos if sim card is changed YOu cant send sms to phone.

Newbie HTC Tytn II owner query...help greatly appreciated

Hey everyone. I have had my Tytn2 for about 6 months now and am generally displeased with the speed of its operation. As it is my first Windows Mobile phone(v6.1) I hoped that it could supersede my older non smartphones but i am now currently doubting my investment. The idea of system optimisation and sub standard/non existant drivers has recentely come to my attention by surfing the internet trying to find the reasoning behind its sluggish operation. As i am not up to date with many technical terms used on this website and the reasonings behind the slowness of it i am making my post fairly general. I have reaslised though that there are things out there that can boost its speed and operation and make it an overall better phone.
If anyone has some favourite, worthwhile or must have tweaks i can do to my phone it would be much appreciated if you could fill me in, send me a link or generally point me in the right direction.
Cheers for your help in advance and thanks to the people out there who are working on these such things

Put a ROM on it that isn't loaded down with ATT bloatware, and HTC's slowness. You'll need to install a HardSPL on your device, SuperCID unlock your device, flash a radio, and choose a ROM to install on your device.
Flashing Your First ROM
Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocking Thread
HardSPL Thread
The Ultimate Radio Thread
Kaiser ROM Development Forum

thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler

ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers

afaseth said:
thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler
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The ROM is equivilant to the OS on a desktop computer, the radio allows communication via cellular, wi-fi, and GPS communications. The HardSPL is equivilant to the MBR on a desktop computer, and the Super CID is equivilant to the BIOS on a computer. (A locked CID will only allow you to install signed ROM's from either your telephone service provider, or HTC, while after a SuperCID unlock, you will be able to flash any ROM you so desire.)

afaseth said:
ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers
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The easiest way to describe it is if you went and bought a name brand computer, when you initially set up the OS, (or use the recovery discs that came with the computer), it will install the OS along with a ton of bloatware, half-functional trial ware, and other unwanted software. However, if you were to boot off of a Windows retail disc, you would have the same operating system, but without all the unnecessary software that the retailer included as an added "bonus". So yes, the computer will operate faster due to not being loaded down by unnessecary software.
Yes, once a new ROM is flashed to your phone, and it was a successful flash, it will boot up as normal, and go through the customization process. After the customization process, it will soft-reset the device, and your phone will boot as normal. It will be as fresh as it would be had it come out of the box that way. Yes, this means that you will lose your contacts list, emails, and everything else you have stored on the phone's main memory. (just like you would lose everything on your HDD if you wiped out your OS and installed it again).
To back up your contacts, simply copy the file PIM.VOL from the root of your device to a microSD card, or your desktop. After you have flashed the phone, rename the new PIM.VOL on the root of the device to PIM.OLD, and copy over your archived PIM.VOL to your phone. Soft reset your device, and boot it up like normal. After the phone restarts, verify you have your contacts list restored, and then delete the file PIM.OLD from your device. The same goes for any other data you may wish to preserve. Copy it off to an SD card, or your desktop computer. After you have flashed your phone, simply copy back all data you have archived. You will obviously need to re-install any applications you wish to have on your phone.
With a customized ROM, you can get anything from a bare-minimum install, (just the OS and nothing more), to a completely new layout with TouchFlo3D, Manala 2D, HTC Home, etc. Look at the ROM development forum, decide what you want your phone to do, and go with it. There are also betas for Windows Mobile 6.5 if you wish to try it, as well as ROM's with PIE 8.5, Opera, and virtually any combination you could possibly want to customize the layout of your phone. The phone will be as a completely different device if that is what you so desire. As far as customisation programs, look into Advanced Configurator 3.3 or Kaiser Tweak. You can also install a registry editor and do the edits manually if you so desire.

thanks for that, that simplifies it somewhat. Should i be attempting to do this to my phone in fear of a major screwup if i lack in depth undertanding of what i am actually doing? i can download the files and follow steps and probably get it right but if something goes wrong i will have not a clue of how to fix it or what i did wrong. Thats my only fear.... what your thoughts?
also can you recommend any decent ROMs for a first timer/do you know anyone i can ask?

RE: Fears
Yeah, first time flashing is pretty scary. Believe me, I know all too well how nerve wracking flashing ROMs can be the first couple of times. Just make sure you follow the directions to a "T" and you should be fine. =]
But, if by some freak accident or some screw-up on your part...there ARE a few fixes depending on what broke. There are various threads in the ROM area on this particular thing.
With that being said, just follow the flashing instructions, make sure you backup your PIM, and then pick yourself a good ROM! =]
For first-timers I'd go with either a standard 6.0-6.1 ROM or something by Dutty or L26. It's been so long and so many flashes since my first that I've honestly forgotten which one I started w/ but Dutty & L26 both make wonderful ROMs and I've had various builds by both.
Best of luck!

i am with 3 mobile: does this influence which ROM i chose. Or is this dealt with during the unlocking phase?

That is dealt with during the unlocking step. After you unlock your device, it will not matter who your carrier is. You could insert a SIM from Hong Kong if you wanted to.