Can you get the bloatware back...? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hello! I did some research in the threads about doing the soft reset during the customization-countdown after a hard reset; that removes the AT&T "bloatware". I couldn't find these questions answered, so:
1) JUST in case: Am I correct in assuming that this alteration isn't permanent? I'm thinking that if I don't like what that does to my phone, I can just do another hard reset, and then allow the phone to go through the customization...which will make it just like it was in the first place. Right?
2) On one of the threads here that discusses the procedure, a referral link sent me to the AT&T page about doing hard resets. Of course, AT&T advises against doing the soft-reset-on-countdown, saying that "EMail, Internet, and other applications may not work." I take it that isn't exactly the case...am I right?
One more question...I'm curious if there is any customized ROM out there that has dealt with the storage card driver issue (where every other process "wakes up" or is activated before the storage card).
THANKS!

1) right
2) right
last question...don't know

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WM6 - point me in the direction please

Iv'e got an AT&T Tilt sim unlocked and I have installed the RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship rom.
But I'm new to phones and wm6. In my enthusiasm Iv'e been trying to get the various cubes to work and made the mistake of installing some stuff to Storage Card instead of Device.
My best option seems to be to start over but I'm not sure what the best way is. If it were a normal pc it would be no prob to reinstall windows. But this thing has no hard disk. I basically want to take it back to factory settings and if possible remove all customisations. Could someone tell me the best way please.
Would also be obliged for a pointer to a good site with info about the workings of wm6 with loads of 'how to's'
A factory reset is a "hard reset"
Just use the clear storage option in settings. The device will reboot to factory settings.
Thanks. A couple of questions
1. Will that leave behind a load of shortcuts, folders, files etc that can be cleared in order to save space/confusion or will all the stuff I have installed be removed?
2. Will it affect the sim unlocked status?
3. Will the factory reset to the rom that I have installed?
Well let's see.... After a hard reset...
1. No. only the apps that came with your tilt are there. you lose everything else.
2. I don't think so.
3. Yes.
As for the site with lot's of how-to's and fancy stuff... well you have forum.xda-developers.com, and The Kaiser Wiki, in the aforementioned site.
Just thought of another one Will it affect my mobile network usage/recognition (um. dont know how to say it properly. But I have a 3 network sim)
Should not. if you're talking about switching networks when putting in another sim, then no, this should work fine.
Then again, if you're talking about how much time you were in the networks and the costs and all that calculations, then yes, it will be reset.
Thanks. Worked just as you said

Stupid question

I know that this is daft, but I am just looking for a bit of reassurance before I do this. I have checked the wiki and searched, but cannot found a specific answer to the question, probably because it is too basic.
If I hard reset my device, which is a O2 Stellar branded model with the stock ROM, will it reset to the condition in which it was shipped to me as new, with the software that O2 preloaded onto it?
I found it to be fast enough out of the box, but have since filled it with all kinds of software. I know exactly what I want on there now, so wish to reset it to it's "virgin" condition and just install what I need.
I know that I need to back up any personal data such as files and contacts, but what about settings for the O2 network? Is this data on the SIM, or part of the ROM, or will it vanish with a hard reset?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, hard reset takes you back to the way it came from the shop. If it was originally O2 customized then that will re-install if you let the hard reset fully complete - you'll see a screen that says installing operator customisation fairly far through the process..
Mike
Thanks Mike, much appreciated.
You can also use the "Clear Storage" exe located in many, if not all Kaiser ROMs.

My Sad Experiences - Missing in Wiki / Incorrect in Post's #1

I have owned my Tilt for about 7 months and have always stuck with the stock ROMs. Extremely poor signal strength in my area has led me to try new radios, which, basically, entailed that I go all in on the ROMs. Ultimately, I had to revert to the current WM6.0 AT&T Stock ROM because there were just too many problems.
I have been with XDA Developers a long time, and find it invaluable. I have also found that it now the new trend to flame rather than answer. Bottom line, it IS possible to search and not find; and, regardless, 103 page posts are not going to be of any use to anyone. Its unfortunate.
So this message is really for those who control the Wiki and for those who control Post # 1 in their threads. There is so much information I could have used which might have made my transition a success. I provide this info in hopes that each individual in possession of editing ability might consider updating their threads.
1) HardSPL - Jaberwok has a solution for the White Screen. One of the MIDDLE powered-on steps is to remove your SIM and SD Cards. It is not possible on a Tilt (at least) to remove the sim while the unit is on. I would respectfully as that Jaberwok update his Page 1 to clarify when the SIM Card should be removed. As a note, the problem is that if you unlock the sim card slot the unit freezes and tells you it will reboot when you lock it. If you leave it unlocked the unit wont boot. If there the SIM card really needs to be out, it would be great if the instructions were reshuffled so that they don't give the impression that the SIM card is to be removed from any state other than a power off, with the door of the empty chamber locked.
2) AT&T Settings - I had decided to settle on Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid ROM as it seemed to be one of the newer ones. The AT&T connectivity customization which runs was not correct (for the United States at least). The web might connect ok via MEdia Net, but nothing else would - preferring to go to ISP (which had isp.cingular). Attempting to change these settings to mirror the Stock AT&T settings did not provide any relief. There was no way to check messages. Perhaps part of the Wiki could explain how to take anyone's custom ROM, and get it to work on the AT&T network. Checking messages would result in a "dialing error" (no matter whether the advanced connection settings were set to MEdia Net for all uses, or the values were changed to mirror the wap.cingular settings).
3) Diamond - The master ROM sticky from the Wiki is a great resource. I was afraid to try Dutty's Diamond ROM because I had no idea if Diamond was a new phone, which would then cause me to brick mine.
4) Hard Resets - All of the installation instructions, whether on the individual cooker's Post 1, or in the Rom Wiki, are fairly inconsistent on when a Hard Reset is needed. Many posts on the forum indicate Problem X -> oh did you hard reset -> yeah that worked. An example of the vagueness is: Should I hard reset before I flash HardSPL? before I flash a Radio? before a flash a ROM? and then all of the above but using "after". Unless you are a cook, cooking your favorite apps into a rom, a Hard Reset is an awful bitter pill. If there are steps which do not require a Hard Reset, it would be of great benefit to know those.
5) Radio - Would love to know if I can flash a radio without a Hard Reset afterwards. Would also love to know if I can flash a radio into the stock AT&T ROM.
6) HardSPL Post 1 - Would love to see a line about whether you need to do anything different if you already have a different HardSPL installed.
Anyway, these are the questions which I believe would be wonderful additions to the various wiki posts, etc. While I anticipate the necessary flames (gotta keep those post counts up, I guess), I believe anyone in control of these threads will note these omissions. I ask that THOSE people understand that everyone is new at flashing at least once, regardless of how experienced they are, and these omissions have tangled at least one poor soul up.
Of course, if anyone out there is also honestly willing to help with the underlying problem, I would love for some help ... I just want to get the best radio I can on my phone. If there is a ROM out there which is right for the AT&T Tilt (meaning, the AT&T connectivity settings are correct, and the keyboard is properly mapped), which has a better radio, I would dearly love to know about it.
Thanks for reading.
Re Hard resets.
Most cooked roms require you to do an additional hard reset after the device has been flashed and restarted.
This is simply something that people have learnt from experience.
The only other times you hard reset after:
1) Phone simply won't respond after trying everything
2) You've installed something and it has screwed your settings beyond any chance of recovery
3) Your rom has got cluttered after loads of installs and uninstalls... and you need to "clean" your rom but still want to keep the same one.
(But I agree that "first post" maintenance would be really handy - but the rom chefs are busy cooking - someone else should volunteer to update their first three posts.
OK But to Start all my answers were learned FROM reading and searching. Just FYI.
1) I can't really answer this. I didn't have the write screen problem.
2) If I recall correctly just about the majority of people here use MEdiaNet for their connection. There are a couple people I remember saying that they use the ISP, and they just simply changed the setting manually. If you get it to work, I'd be happy to help you create a CAB for it.
3) Rest assured that even though the Diamond is a new phone if the ROM is posted in the Kaiser Forum. Its "ok to use it on your phone. If you are worried you can wait until a couple people try it and say "This Works great" Then you can look at their signature and see they are using a Kaiser.
4) The most common answer it After a ROM flash right at when you See the "Tap to Begin" Screen.
5) I never Hard Reset after I flash a radio. I flash so much though. People recommend you flash the radio first, I've done it both ways. I Personally don't notice a difference. Questions about What radio will work with Stock AT&T ROMs, Which I believe are still WM 6.0, are toroughly answered in AllTheWays Ultimate radio Thread.
6) That would be nice. Would get more notice by the Ones in the KNow about those things if this qustion was posting in that specific thread.
7) Anyone should feel free to edit and add to the WIKI.
8) IIRC shogunmark's Death is an AT&T Tilt based ROM. But the Tytn II based Roms work fine on the Tilt. You just have to install the Tilt Keyboard Fix and Soft Reset.
jdmba said:
I have been with XDA Developers a long time, and find it invaluable. I have also found that it now the new trend to flame rather than answer. Bottom line, it IS possible to search and not find; and, regardless, 103 page posts are not going to be of any use to anyone. Its unfortunate.
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I too have been a Tilt owner for 8 months, first came across this site last Nov. At that point, the Kaiser forum consisted of speculation on when the Tilt would appear in the US. I was a lurker for 6 months before I joined and posted my first question. Until then I searched ( Forum and Google ) for all my info and never, I mean never did I not find an answer to my questions.
Yes it took time and perseverance but the information was ALWAYS there.I will steadfastly stand here and argue with anyone who says " I searched and found nothing " and tell them " you searched, got bored, it was too much trouble, and you wanted instant gratification ", that is why you are posting. ( Except genuine questions on newly released items ).
That is the real reason why it is so difficult to search. Redundant posts and lazy people who think their time is too valuable to search. Want an example?
JimmyMcGee, over 1000 posts, 0 new threads
Harkadenn, 330 posts over forty new threads, 36 in one month alone, before he finally sold his phone. He had a problem, started a thread
One person, multiply that times 1000 people who think that we should just answer their questions as they come up, and not flame them to search.
I will do the math, 36000 new threads per month, you think it is impossible to search through crap now? It was not always like this, it was made like this.
So this message is really for those who control the Wiki and for those who control Post # 1 in their threads. There is so much information I could have used which might have made my transition a success. I provide this info in hopes that each individual in possession of editing ability might consider updating their threads.
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Everyone has the ability to edit the Wiki. The information in this site evolves. ( see the new info about how different Spls affect your phone)The problem with the Wiki is that the people with the info mostly don't use it, the people looking for info do. Do not leave it up to everyone else. Every member has the ability and thus the responsibility to correct or update any information they feel is wrong or misguiding in the Wiki.
Anyway, these are the questions which I believe would be wonderful additions to the various wiki posts, etc. While I anticipate the necessary flames (gotta keep those post counts up, I guess), I believe anyone in control of these threads will note these omissions. I ask that THOSE people understand that everyone is new at flashing at least once, regardless of how experienced they are, and these omissions have tangled at least one poor soul up.
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Yes we were all new at one time. Many of us searched (eight months, 200 posts, 2 new threads ) any too many didn't ( which is why we are talking about this ) . But don't blame the people flaming redundant thread starters( the people padding their post counts as you put it ). The remedy starts with you and me.
Now take the answers you get in this thread and add them to the Wiki for all others.

Restoring via RUU problem

I've got a Wing from T-Mobile and I was checkin' on HTC's site... I dont' see any RUU files for that particular phone... T-Mobiles site had an RUU for me but it requires an activesync connection,
Now I've gone and proper bricked the (insert bad word here) so it won't even make an activesync connection anymore,
I was tryin' to put a lite version of one of the touch IT releases on there, all i've got now is a solid white screen. Phone will make noise when it's slid open; and the screen has an auto timer dim, but no display....
The RUU I got off t-mobiles site runs off an exe (do they usually?) Problem with it is that it requires an activesync connection which the phone can't make at the momment because of it's current state...
Is there an alternative to activesync that would help me out in this case? I know when I effed up a Linksys router I was able to tftp the firmware, not sure if there is anything like that I can do in this case. It only happened this morning though and the phones not active anyway so I'm going to continue looking (It's awaiting activation but it's now the weekend so I've got at least 2 days to work on it anyway.)
You may notice; I'm entirely new to this however I did look into it enough to ensure that I had an RUU to begin with before I tried any of this... Also, I have a second wing that's still set the way it was @ stock... Would that help in any sense?
Another question I had is what exactly is a lite version; from my understanding it was WM6 w/o the bloat... I'm begining to wonder if it's an OS with no tools not even a phone tool (I wouldn't think so but maybe I misunderstood.)
Thanks for any and all help or even suggestions to resolving my first brick
Edit: I'm begining to think my option is to try to submit it under warranty but I'm sure they can look at whats currently on the phone and I've got a hunch that right there will get me an outta warranty fee...
Edit2: I may have wound up able to answer my own question, (I'm at work atm and don't have access to test anything till 9pm tonight so I thought I'd post incase I was overlooking something, or incase I was able to find something to help others.)
I read;
JDawgZX11D said:
"If you had the same problems as I started with, and that it will not boot past the T Mobile screen, here is what you do.
RUU_Atlas_TMO_US_4[1].10.531.3_4.1.13.37_02.83.90_Ship
Download the orignial T Mobile rom, it is on this website about 300 times (I guess I was not the only one). I am sure you have winrar, open up this file in winrar. There are 8 files inside of it. The one you are most concerned with is \RUU_signed.nbh this is the original operating system. Get yourself at a minimum a 128mb micro sd card. Format it to FAT32 and copy the before .nbh file to the root directory. Rename the file to Heraimg.nbh That way if you start with a brick, you can end up with a shining penny! So when it is bricked, you do a hard reset. Hold the camera button and the voice record button, then push the stylus in the reset button. as long as you pushed in the micro sd card in the slot, it will reload. When it asks you to push this button it, they mean the volume down button. After about 15 minutes, your brick is no longer bricked. It will do it's thing and then soft reset on its own. You are back to factory default, YEA!!! Remove the Micro SD card out at this point."
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I will try this later, thank you.
Fixed it
What I didn't realize is that you can still install an RUU via USB w/o activesync through the phones bootloader and the EXE from the comp.
THanks for the help anyway

I am leaving the country on Tuesday

I bought this phone after careful research. I found out that the Voice Command could be downloaded. Then I found out that it might not work. Then I found out if could if I just had the right CAB. Then I found my way here. Now I have read and read for the last two weeks when ever possible and some times for over 8 hours. Here is where I am and I would love some help. I am up against a time frame that is un-movable at this point. Here I am copying and pasting:
I have read a ton of stuff and what I finally have come to is that the CAB to operate and download the BTAG is available and I found it. It is with, this, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=588882 I just don't know if I have to do a hard SPL or a Soft and or if I do one where to find the directions. I have read a ton of directions but it is not clear if they are necessary for this CAB and the CAB I believe is with Windows 6.5. I have 6.1. So if anyone can answer my questions it would be really wonderful....
should be closed by me for being duplicate...but I will leave it for this time so you can get your phone in gear, but in the future pls refrain from double posting/redundant thread opening, thx
I will also move the thread to general, it is not dev related
I already posted in backup thread, to add info on your h-spl question:
for cabs you don't need h-spl, that's only required for stock roms
so if this cab is only working on 6.5 you would need h-spl to get a 6.5 custom rom on your phone, but only for that
best
I appreciate your leaving it for me. You are obviously not used to working with newer people though. I posted the cab link so that it could be seen in order to ask the question. I am also packing, washing clothes, have my other phone listed on eBay, getting things ready for my garage sale, trying to be quiet while my boyfriend sleeps, feeding the dogs, trying not to upset them.....
In between that read any responses so that I know how to answer the offer on my other phone that I have listed on eBay. Download a backup for the Xperia so that I can load the CAB and if it doesn't work I can restore the backup....
Basically, I am trying to do a lot of things at once. That is why I am trying to cover everything in my posts. I have very limited time.
So, again thanks, I am still unclear as to whether or not this cab that is 6.5 or at least that is the ROM that it is in. I think, I am not very experienced in this.... ergo the link to his info. Back to what I said, I still am not clear on if it will work or I have wasted even more time??
I'm used to, nearly daily, but I don't like them posting all over the forum, especially not doing duplicates or starting new threads for anything
I understand your need but still: there are rules and they apply to everyone here, independent of them being in a hurry or not, having to do a lot of other things in parallel or not,...
I'm sure you noticed and read them during your research here, so pls abide by them
I am not quite sure what your post is even about - too much info all piled and mixed together. If you want an answer, you need to ask a question properly. So what is it that you need to know?
If any .CABs don't work, they can be uninstalled, no need to back up, restore and/or flash the entire phone just to get rid of the unworking .CABs
As far as Voice Command is concerned, I have it running on my X1 and it should run regardless of the ROM you have. I tried versions 1.6.0, 1.6.2 etc - all worked fine. The only difficulty is mapping the buttons with X1. I would recommend mapping left soft key, simply because I have the necessary functions on the screen, so didn't need a soft key to repeat the same, making the key reduntant and available for MS VC.
As far as ROM flashing is concerned, there is an excellent guide for flashing, just look for recommended stickies in ROM Development, but first it feels you are not really up to speed with the terminology - CABs, ROMs etc.
Mod, actually when I have so much to do, even though I read a lot of stuff I have not really completely become familiar with this site. If I had read that I certainly would not have posted it twice. That is why I did not PM the OP of the ROM that I have been referring to. Because what I did read was that no body wanted a lot of questions asked without someone reading.
As to the person who posted about my lingo. Thanks for your comments. I tried finding the folder for the cab on my phone. It is a new phone. Could not find it. Not sure what app it is in. I am familiar with my old phone. This is the 2nd of this one I have had to order now and the first one had so much wrong with it. I spent about a week alone just figuring out that that phone was definitely a lemon. The seller on eBay was not being truthful to me about it. That is a question I asked just recently.
.CABs are small installable programs, in order to have them on your phone, they need to be placed there by you, either to the phone itself or to the storage card, then you can install the program by clicking on the .CAB. There is no folder for the .CAB or app it can be in if you didn't have it placed there to begin with. Again, as I suspect, you are not quite familiar with terminology, you are using the right terms but in the wrong context somehow.
Not sure what you were looking for and not finding on your phone. Again, your descriptions make no sense. Just because you can't find the .CAB you never placed on the phone, doesn't make a phone a lemon, rather you having no idea how to use a phone or how to install anything on it in order for you to be able to use it.
No, I know that does not make a phone a lemon. It's a really long story. Just wanted to thank you for coming back and leaving me a more detailed answer. I am not stupid, I just have way too much too do and limited time so it is a combination of that and not enough sleep and trying to move internationally in 3 days. Thanks again!
Okay, I got it on my phone. But I can't get the bluetooth heaset to work. I read in many different places about assigning a button. I did that. I also say about doing a soft reset. I did that. I don't want to do either of those again for fear that I will loose everything I have at this point. Pleae anyone.....
You need to go to settings, open Voice Command and tick the appropriate option to use bluetooth with it.
Unless, of course, you are talking about general bluetooth connection. In which case i suggest you get settled, give yourself time and have a good read of the instruction booklet, section discussing bluetooth connection.
There are a whole bunch of choices. I am using a plantronics PRO and I saw the information about A2DP. So I tried that and it did not work....
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There are a whole bunch of choices. I am using a plantronics PRO and I saw the information about A2DP. So I tried that and it did not work....
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what didn't work, your headset or A2DP? A2DP is a stereo format for stereo headsets and headphones. Is your headset stereo?

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