I know that this is daft, but I am just looking for a bit of reassurance before I do this. I have checked the wiki and searched, but cannot found a specific answer to the question, probably because it is too basic.
If I hard reset my device, which is a O2 Stellar branded model with the stock ROM, will it reset to the condition in which it was shipped to me as new, with the software that O2 preloaded onto it?
I found it to be fast enough out of the box, but have since filled it with all kinds of software. I know exactly what I want on there now, so wish to reset it to it's "virgin" condition and just install what I need.
I know that I need to back up any personal data such as files and contacts, but what about settings for the O2 network? Is this data on the SIM, or part of the ROM, or will it vanish with a hard reset?
Thanks in advance.
Yes, hard reset takes you back to the way it came from the shop. If it was originally O2 customized then that will re-install if you let the hard reset fully complete - you'll see a screen that says installing operator customisation fairly far through the process..
Mike
Thanks Mike, much appreciated.
You can also use the "Clear Storage" exe located in many, if not all Kaiser ROMs.
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Iv'e got an AT&T Tilt sim unlocked and I have installed the RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88.07_1.27.12.11_Ship rom.
But I'm new to phones and wm6. In my enthusiasm Iv'e been trying to get the various cubes to work and made the mistake of installing some stuff to Storage Card instead of Device.
My best option seems to be to start over but I'm not sure what the best way is. If it were a normal pc it would be no prob to reinstall windows. But this thing has no hard disk. I basically want to take it back to factory settings and if possible remove all customisations. Could someone tell me the best way please.
Would also be obliged for a pointer to a good site with info about the workings of wm6 with loads of 'how to's'
A factory reset is a "hard reset"
Just use the clear storage option in settings. The device will reboot to factory settings.
Thanks. A couple of questions
1. Will that leave behind a load of shortcuts, folders, files etc that can be cleared in order to save space/confusion or will all the stuff I have installed be removed?
2. Will it affect the sim unlocked status?
3. Will the factory reset to the rom that I have installed?
Well let's see.... After a hard reset...
1. No. only the apps that came with your tilt are there. you lose everything else.
2. I don't think so.
3. Yes.
As for the site with lot's of how-to's and fancy stuff... well you have forum.xda-developers.com, and The Kaiser Wiki, in the aforementioned site.
Just thought of another one Will it affect my mobile network usage/recognition (um. dont know how to say it properly. But I have a 3 network sim)
Should not. if you're talking about switching networks when putting in another sim, then no, this should work fine.
Then again, if you're talking about how much time you were in the networks and the costs and all that calculations, then yes, it will be reset.
Thanks. Worked just as you said
Hi,
I should be getting my XDA Stellar tomorrow, I currently have a mini S and was just wondering wether there is an option to do a corporate install on the Stellar (removing all the O2 crap) like there was on the mini S.
Any Ideas?
lokas said:
Hi,
I should be getting my XDA Stellar tomorrow, I currently have a mini S and was just wondering wether there is an option to do a corporate install on the Stellar (removing all the O2 crap) like there was on the mini S.
Any Ideas?
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When I started up my Stellar for the first time it just loaded the O2 custom stuff by default - don't think there was a way to stop it. You'll probably need to investigate how you change the ROM.
I'm in the process of trying to understand how this works from reading here but not confident enough I do understand it yet to even think about attempting it.
I loaded TomTom Nav 6 the other day & that seems to work well although it did completely freak at one point meaning all I got on the screen was the Tom Tom splash screen - even after a soft reset.
Managed to unload it & reload it & all has been OK since although yesterday the GPS went mental - couldn't find more than one or two satellites & at one point it was telling me I was somewhere out in the atlantic off the coast of France! (I was in my house near London at the time )
Overall I think its a good device. I just want to figure out how I can get it to default to using the available Wifi connection when I'm in the house rather than heading straight for a GPRS connection when I run Internet Explorer.
Anyone else?
How hard would it be to install a HTC ROM if I can't remove the O2 software?
Are there any benefits to having the O2 ROM as oppoes to the HTC ROM and Vice Versa?
lokas said:
Anyone else?
How hard would it be to install a HTC ROM if I can't remove the O2 software?
Are there any benefits to having the O2 ROM as oppoes to the HTC ROM and Vice Versa?
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I'd guess the O2 rom has some "bloat-ware" in it & it'll also contain all the settings you need for GPRS access, voicemail etc that it will program into the device for you.
I think O2's "Today" screen is a bit of a mess to be honest.
When you first start the thing up there is a 3-5 second delay after initial setup before it then runs the carrier's customisation
I saw something posted that if you pull the battery at this point then it will stop the customisation & you just get the standard HTC config. Not sure of what the potential risks are though.
Apparently you can do this at any point afterwards as well if you do a hard reset (don't know how you do that yet!)
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to stop the custom o2 install, when it says about to customer soft reset it by poking the stylus in the reset hole on the base of the phone
I've just left the stock ROM running, but stopped various aspects of the software that comes with it from starting up by removing the links from the startup menu. The device doesn't run slowly at all. I was amazed at how ugly the O2 stuff was!
I didn't bother with a new ROM, I have just installed the best bits of the HTC stuff from this forum (many thanks to many people, incidentally) and it improves the functionality of the device massively with very little work. Why O2 felt the need to replace good software with ugly rubbish I'll never know.
I run TomTom 6, and have never had any trouble with it at all; I always get a good quick lock, and have never found myself in the wrong country!
I have just bought a replacement for a lost Tmobile vario III, which is an unlocked O2 stellar. All works fine except I cannot receive MMS and internet settings from T mobile. Maybe this is because the existing O2 configuration software is still on the phone?? So questions: how doe I remove all the O2 software and settings, can anyone give me the right T mobile settings in case the automatic download never works??
I think you could be right there Jeremy - although your phone will pick up the right SMS address from the network, it needs to be taught the right MMS and GPRS/3G settings for those to work.
Easiest way is to go to T-Mobile's website, look in Support, enter your phone number and they'll send you the correct settings direct to your phone.
Next easiest is to find an HTC Network Wizard cab, as this will install the correct settings for many networks (all the ones in the UK are supported) automatically.
Last method is to enter the details manually. The T-Mobile website doesn't list them (only offers the text-to-you method) and I've used the Network Wizard for so long I can't find my piece of paper with the settings on anymore! I'm pretty sure this site has them listed correctly though http://www.mphone.co.uk/mms_wap_settings_t_mobile.html
The T-Mobile settings should overwrite the O2 ones (or show as two separate selections) but if you want to remove the O2 software completely then you're in the realms of flashing a non-O2 ROM, in which case you've come to the right place but got a lot of reading in front of you.
Stu - thanks for your reply. I have tried several times to get the setting downloaded to the phone by Tmobile but for some reason they never arrive. So I may try to download and instal the HTC Network Wizard cab although this makes me a bit nervous - if I get it wrong can I seriously screw up my phone??
Stu - I did it anyway and it worked - what a great little piece of software! Thanks so much for the help.
Next question - can I remove the O2 flash screens from the phone - any idea?
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Stu - thanks for your reply. I have tried several times to get the setting downloaded to the phone by Tmobile but for some reason they never arrive. So I may try to download and instal the HTC Network Wizard cab although this makes me a bit nervous - if I get it wrong can I seriously screw up my phone??
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Nice thing about phones, make sure your contacts, calendar are backed up onto a PC and you can install ANYTHING without fear - if it goes really wrong, just Hard Reset to get back to factory-fresh and reinstall your contacts, etc. The only way you can seriously screw your phone up is playing with the Radio or ROM without Hard-SPL being installed or being stupid with MTTY.
Or using a big hammer on it will work well too at screwing it. As will letting my kids play ClickBall when they're in a strop....
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Stu - I did it anyway and it worked - what a great little piece of software! Thanks so much for the help.
Next question - can I remove the O2 flash screens from the phone - any idea?
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Easy enough, thanks to POF! The wiki has a link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334907 and LOADS of useful info.
Thanks for all you helpfula dvice Stu. Took a deep breath and falshed my ROM, bit scary and bit complicated but finally managed to get it to work!
Hello! I did some research in the threads about doing the soft reset during the customization-countdown after a hard reset; that removes the AT&T "bloatware". I couldn't find these questions answered, so:
1) JUST in case: Am I correct in assuming that this alteration isn't permanent? I'm thinking that if I don't like what that does to my phone, I can just do another hard reset, and then allow the phone to go through the customization...which will make it just like it was in the first place. Right?
2) On one of the threads here that discusses the procedure, a referral link sent me to the AT&T page about doing hard resets. Of course, AT&T advises against doing the soft-reset-on-countdown, saying that "EMail, Internet, and other applications may not work." I take it that isn't exactly the case...am I right?
One more question...I'm curious if there is any customized ROM out there that has dealt with the storage card driver issue (where every other process "wakes up" or is activated before the storage card).
THANKS!
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2) right
last question...don't know
Hey everyone. I have had my Tytn2 for about 6 months now and am generally displeased with the speed of its operation. As it is my first Windows Mobile phone(v6.1) I hoped that it could supersede my older non smartphones but i am now currently doubting my investment. The idea of system optimisation and sub standard/non existant drivers has recentely come to my attention by surfing the internet trying to find the reasoning behind its sluggish operation. As i am not up to date with many technical terms used on this website and the reasonings behind the slowness of it i am making my post fairly general. I have reaslised though that there are things out there that can boost its speed and operation and make it an overall better phone.
If anyone has some favourite, worthwhile or must have tweaks i can do to my phone it would be much appreciated if you could fill me in, send me a link or generally point me in the right direction.
Cheers for your help in advance and thanks to the people out there who are working on these such things
Put a ROM on it that isn't loaded down with ATT bloatware, and HTC's slowness. You'll need to install a HardSPL on your device, SuperCID unlock your device, flash a radio, and choose a ROM to install on your device.
Flashing Your First ROM
Kaiser SIM/CID Unlocking Thread
HardSPL Thread
The Ultimate Radio Thread
Kaiser ROM Development Forum
thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler
ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers
afaseth said:
thankyou for your post. Excuse my ignnorance but what does a ROM actually do to the phone? I have no issues with doing so, i just really dont undertand what it does/the reasoning behind it. And also a radio? i have searched threads but there is so much about installing them etc but not many explinations on their workings. cheers k-semler
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The ROM is equivilant to the OS on a desktop computer, the radio allows communication via cellular, wi-fi, and GPS communications. The HardSPL is equivilant to the MBR on a desktop computer, and the Super CID is equivilant to the BIOS on a computer. (A locked CID will only allow you to install signed ROM's from either your telephone service provider, or HTC, while after a SuperCID unlock, you will be able to flash any ROM you so desire.)
afaseth said:
ok.. i have been looking around some more and found some more answers to my questions...so it basically boosts the performance? so once this is done what can i load onto my phone to make this all worthwhile?And also once this is done does is load as per normal, just faster? Or does the phone have a whole new layout etc. that the creator made?
cheers
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The easiest way to describe it is if you went and bought a name brand computer, when you initially set up the OS, (or use the recovery discs that came with the computer), it will install the OS along with a ton of bloatware, half-functional trial ware, and other unwanted software. However, if you were to boot off of a Windows retail disc, you would have the same operating system, but without all the unnecessary software that the retailer included as an added "bonus". So yes, the computer will operate faster due to not being loaded down by unnessecary software.
Yes, once a new ROM is flashed to your phone, and it was a successful flash, it will boot up as normal, and go through the customization process. After the customization process, it will soft-reset the device, and your phone will boot as normal. It will be as fresh as it would be had it come out of the box that way. Yes, this means that you will lose your contacts list, emails, and everything else you have stored on the phone's main memory. (just like you would lose everything on your HDD if you wiped out your OS and installed it again).
To back up your contacts, simply copy the file PIM.VOL from the root of your device to a microSD card, or your desktop. After you have flashed the phone, rename the new PIM.VOL on the root of the device to PIM.OLD, and copy over your archived PIM.VOL to your phone. Soft reset your device, and boot it up like normal. After the phone restarts, verify you have your contacts list restored, and then delete the file PIM.OLD from your device. The same goes for any other data you may wish to preserve. Copy it off to an SD card, or your desktop computer. After you have flashed your phone, simply copy back all data you have archived. You will obviously need to re-install any applications you wish to have on your phone.
With a customized ROM, you can get anything from a bare-minimum install, (just the OS and nothing more), to a completely new layout with TouchFlo3D, Manala 2D, HTC Home, etc. Look at the ROM development forum, decide what you want your phone to do, and go with it. There are also betas for Windows Mobile 6.5 if you wish to try it, as well as ROM's with PIE 8.5, Opera, and virtually any combination you could possibly want to customize the layout of your phone. The phone will be as a completely different device if that is what you so desire. As far as customisation programs, look into Advanced Configurator 3.3 or Kaiser Tweak. You can also install a registry editor and do the edits manually if you so desire.
thanks for that, that simplifies it somewhat. Should i be attempting to do this to my phone in fear of a major screwup if i lack in depth undertanding of what i am actually doing? i can download the files and follow steps and probably get it right but if something goes wrong i will have not a clue of how to fix it or what i did wrong. Thats my only fear.... what your thoughts?
also can you recommend any decent ROMs for a first timer/do you know anyone i can ask?
RE: Fears
Yeah, first time flashing is pretty scary. Believe me, I know all too well how nerve wracking flashing ROMs can be the first couple of times. Just make sure you follow the directions to a "T" and you should be fine. =]
But, if by some freak accident or some screw-up on your part...there ARE a few fixes depending on what broke. There are various threads in the ROM area on this particular thing.
With that being said, just follow the flashing instructions, make sure you backup your PIM, and then pick yourself a good ROM! =]
For first-timers I'd go with either a standard 6.0-6.1 ROM or something by Dutty or L26. It's been so long and so many flashes since my first that I've honestly forgotten which one I started w/ but Dutty & L26 both make wonderful ROMs and I've had various builds by both.
Best of luck!
i am with 3 mobile: does this influence which ROM i chose. Or is this dealt with during the unlocking phase?
That is dealt with during the unlocking step. After you unlock your device, it will not matter who your carrier is. You could insert a SIM from Hong Kong if you wanted to.