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PointUI - New User Interface

Two days ago I downloaded a new interface which seems to be working great on the AT&T Tilt... Was just curious if anyone else has any experience with it? I think they released it on the 31st..
www.pointui.com

Hi,look at this post,i don't use it,but people give their opinion.

I have been trying it today. I actually like it in terms of turning the device into a dumbphone.
It disables the hardware buttons, but a quick press of the red end call key and you are back to the today screen and can use hardware buttons.

PointUI
I have just started using it, but on a VGA Exec. It does not support VGA but still works (everything is smaller than it should be). If they release a VGA version I will definitly use it as even with on the VGA screen it is fantastic.
I was looking for a touch style interface and have used HTC cube (various versions), and also the Ipod style inteface. All of them are close but not quite there.
For me, PointUI is there....It is the best I have seen and possibly because it is not emulating other devices it realy hits the mark.
I will install on my wizard for the moment until they release the VGA version.
As a last note does anyone know if you can drop the resolution on a EXEC? Sound a dumb question but I would like to use PointUI as it should be.

Tried it right when it was released on my Tilt. My initial impressions:
1. Lots of potential.
2. Very slick animation
3. Needs quite a bit of work and polishing before I consider using it.
3a. Did not match my theme, so odd color issues on the top bar.
3b. Needs to be cusomizable to use my preferred programs.
3c. I like my today page as i have it setup that shows all the info I need in one place. PointUI is nice eye candy, but does not give me that one stop shop.\

I don't know I may be the odd one out as everyone seems to like it so much.
I somehow am of the opinion that a combination of SPB PocketPlus and SPB Mobile Shell is a far more efficient and effective interface. Though just my opinion

New home screen from wm6.1?

I see all of these roms for 6.1 everywhere...but none of them make mention of the new sliding panel home screen. Do any of these include that? Better yet, does anyone have a cab of the new home screen?
It's been rumored that the new US touch dual will have the new wm6.1 os pre-installed, but obviously that can't be substantiated yet.
So, anyone, new home screen?

new home screen
I was wondering the same thing. The articles all show the new look home screen, but the ROMs all seem to have the old one. I'm not complaining as I appreciate all the work done by the chefs. I'm just curious about the new look that is detailed in the press releases.

True. It's a huge process making these roms, so credit where credit is due. However, seeing how there isn't any MAJOR changes to the os, the only thing of any real interest to me is the home screen. I think an interface change would be nice...

Everything I've seen on the sliding home-type front end states it's only for Smartphone rather than Pocket PC - that's why nobody's building it into their ROMs!
Shame, I thought it looked quite nice, but IMHO 6.1 is mostly centred around improving the Smartphone experience and trying to bring it closer to the standard PPC has set.

Correct, it's only a feature for Smartphone Editions (no touchscreen).
Actually, You can download the Windows Mobile 6.1 Professional and Smartphone Images from Microsoft's website and see it for yourself.
However, I do think that's a shame not to have it implemented on Professional devices.
Cheers!
RayanMX

Well that's lame. I have a touch screen device, but I often find it much easier to navigate using the d-pad. It would be nice to have an interface like on the standard os, even if it's just for aesthetics. :-/

InGeNeTiCs said:
Well that's lame. I have a touch screen device, but I often find it much easier to navigate using the d-pad. It would be nice to have an interface like on the standard os, even if it's just for aesthetics. :-/
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MS is focusing on that in WM7. But WM6.1 is mostly cosmetics - no huge changes. At least not in the Pro version.

Bye bye Touchflo3D

First I need to say that I really liked Touchflo3D a lot and I didn't stopped using it because it looks bad or may slow down the Diamond a little bit.
I stopped using it because it reminds me too much of the iPhone...unfortunately minus the iPhone usability.
After I went back to the "classic" stylus and thumb operation, my lost happiness using the Diamond returned back. I also enjoy to be able again to easily read all my appointments and tasks which was almost impossible with Touchflo3D.
Tochflo3D looks great, in my opinion better than the iPhone GUI, kudos to HTC for that.
Unfortunately it doesn't offer the same comfort and usability of the iPhone GUI, so it is useless to me. Once HTC succeeds in integrating WM6.1 into Touchflo3D(or vice versa), I may give it another try but right now, it is just a fancy but pretty much useless GUI which reminds me too much of the iPhone comfort and usability and which of course starts to annoy me once I realize that it doesn't work even close to how good the iPhone GUI works with touch operations.
So if you're annoyed by Touchflo3D but still use it because it looks so nice...STOP using it, you will be much more happy with your Diamond, believe me. Once Touchflo3D is gone, you don't compare it to the iPhone anymore, reminding you of the "good old" stylus/thumb operation days and how good the Diamond can be used that way compared to older devices.
Try it, you may love it.

Good call.
I have done the same and only really miss the cute SMS graphics...
HTC obviously CAN do good interfaces as the old TouchFlo was excellent, but this one just isn't quite there yet, and also feels somewhat fiddly compared to the iPhone.
In the meantime the TD runs much better without TF3D, and you can start realising its full potential. Also you are not tempted to use their somewhat flaky audio player etc and can start to look at other alternatives.
If you want gestures and nice graphics, try SPB Shell 2. Works very well and looks great.
Otherwise, try using the device as the WM6 phone it so obviously is, and start to enjoy it...

from the first i didnt like the Touchflo3D its buggy so i disable it and use the normal mode

Yeah, I do fully agree to that!
The "classic" windows mobile interface looks very well on the diamond,
and without TF3D it's fast as hell!

Spb mobile shell is the best interface.
Touch Flo 3d was slow and killed the diamond.

Have to agree with most of the posts in here, TF3D is nice but its such a resourcce hog that after almost a day of using the Diamond...the phone becomes so sluggish even with the tweaks enabled.
Im seriously considering going to the normal non tf3d screen as it doesnt eat as much memory/resources as the tf3d does.
Seriously just try leaving the phone for most of the day and u will see that from 50% it goes up to 70% and makes the phone very sluggish.
Saying that i do hope HTC fix it with a future rom update or perhaps one of the guys in here can do it becuase its a nice interface when it works.

Registry switch for toiuchflow3d?
Does anyone have the registry switch details for touchflow 3d? Thanks.

windows mobile is one ugly thing and the stylus...no thanks...
when i get the touch pro..tf3d it is.

pilib said:
Does anyone have the registry switch details for touchflow 3d? Thanks.
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What do you mean? It's a Today plugin, just disable it...

pedmond said:
What do you mean? It's a Today plugin, just disable it...
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well, disabling it doesnt give us more ram, does it?
i hope that new rom cookers can find us a solution to freed up the ram so that we can use it for other applications

ruffruff said:
well, disabling it doesnt give us more ram, does it?
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What do you mean? Won't give us more RAM, indeed, but will free quite a bit of the existing one...
Note to self: stop using the "what do you mean" expression...

The elusive obvious!
Pardon my earlier stupid question re a registry switch for touchflo. It is of course, as pointed out, simply a today plugin, easily disabled by a t(h)ick!

Well, apparantly some people haven't heard of flashing your phone. My TD with TF3D is fast as hell with my new rom.

Hi
I also disabled Touchflo3D. Is there another possibility to access the weather-application from Touchflo3D? Or does anybody know a similar programm running with WM 6.1?

after you install spb mobile shell, how do you disable/remove touchflo? and make spb shell the default one etc

Settings-today-items:check SPB and remove the check from tf3D ..DONE!

Yzord said:
Well, apparantly some people haven't heard of flashing your phone. My TD with TF3D is fast as hell with my new rom.
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Which ROM are you using?

Using TLR now, and I really can't stop using TFLO3D.
It's damn fast here, and really, getting the everyday things done (read sms, read mail, launch a navigator, make a picture) TFLO3D is really, really good.
No buggs at all, and really fast. The first ones were a bit sluggish, but I can wipe my finger "left-right-left-right" in 1 second, and TFLO3d follows it perfectly.
In terms of usability for me, it gets at least 8 out of 10. There are some things I miss, like reordering my tabs and GETTING A DECENT CALENDAR but for the rest its great.
It brings back the simpleness of a mobile phone to the foreground, while still you have a suberb device at the background.

I quite like it too but I do miss the exact things you have just mentioned. I'm not looking for a replacement, but I do wonder can it be hacked so we can get more out of it? Or must we wait for HTC to listen to our cry for help. This is my first HTC device so I don't know, but from what I hear we should not be holding our breath. This surprised me, as I buy other HTC's for my staff at work, and HTC's reputation to me was exemplary, and they are the market leaders. Then I came here, and now I hear so much bad stuff about them.

Riel said:
Using TLR now, and I really can't stop using TFLO3D.
It's damn fast here, and really, getting the everyday things done (read sms, read mail, launch a navigator, make a picture) TFLO3D is really, really good.
No buggs at all, and really fast. The first ones were a bit sluggish, but I can wipe my finger "left-right-left-right" in 1 second, and TFLO3d follows it perfectly.
In terms of usability for me, it gets at least 8 out of 10. There are some things I miss, like reordering my tabs and GETTING A DECENT CALENDAR but for the rest its great.
It brings back the simpleness of a mobile phone to the foreground, while still you have a suberb device at the background.
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You never used an iPhone, did you?
I'm using the TLR ROM too but Touchflo3D is C.R.A.P..
I owned WM phones before(TyTN, TyTN II, i780, etc.) and I like Windows Mobile, version 6.1 is really a good step towards a finally very well working phone OS, I just can't wait to see WM7. Like I said before, Touchflo3D LOOKS great, much better than the iPhone GUI but operation SUCKS bigtime, not even close to iPhone. Don't forget that HTC started the whole "touch" series because of the iPhone, not because people really asked for it. That said, a comparison to the iPhone is mandatory and yes, I know, the display technology is completely different and WM6.1 lacks a proper finger touch operation API, right.
I removed Tochflo3D because I wanted to have an almost perfect "classic"(stylus, sometimes fingers) Windows Mobile phone, not a half-bread iPhone wannabee.
What can I say? I'm a happy camper now, especially since I can for example see five different calender events on the same page without having to touch the unit.
Regarding Touchflo3D improvements: I'm not sure we're going to see substantial improvements to the usability(speed isn't really the issue), unless some genius programmer finds a clever way to cope for the different display technology and missing "real" finger usage API of WM6.1. I also wish somebody here on xda-developers with brains and time on this hand could "integrate" WM6.1(icons, etc.) much more into Touchflo3D, so Touchflo3D doesn't look and feel sometimes like a simple GUI "cover" only.
I'm pretty sure that Windows Mobile 7 will be the answer to all our questions and hopes but til then...well...hello Touch Diamond II or whatever it's name will be.

Spb Mobile 2.0 vs Tf3d

I'm not really gettin used to touchflow yet and I'm checking out other options. So... Lets get down to business:
The things that bugs me in touchflow are:
1.the todayscreen not being able to show more calendarevents.
2. the sms screen, the whole layout really
3. The mediaplayer
4. The alarm, every aspect there as well
I know that there are substitute programs for most of these problems BUT as I have to go in and select the appropriate program I fail to see the advantage of Touchflow..
The things I love with Tf3d are its speed and beautiful graphics and they will be soarly missed if I would go with another shell.
Are there any other touchfriendly options?
What are the pros and cons with Spb mobile shell 2.0? Especially regarding these issues!
Yours sinceraly
Adis Hardis

Sorry but I think you're a bit lazy. Why don't you just download a trial of spb mobile shell and see for yourself?

To be fair, I think he wants opinions..
SPB Software always rates highly in my books, I used to use the Shell on my Hermes. My girlfriend used to hate it, as it restricts access to the main features of the phone unless you kill it off.
But I guess if you tweak it to how you want it, then you never need to access the back end of the phone, pretty much like the HTC one I guess.
SMS's are visible (at least the count) on the main screen, and link direct to the pocket outlook folder
Media player - There's non built in, so again it's just a link.
Urm, Alarm again is built in.. Unless you put SPB time on??
Guess its worth a try! There's plenty of support on their forums, and hundreds of themes for it

I'm no expert in these areas but can I install spb without uninstalling? (and loosing all the settings and so forth). Cause thats my main concern!
Lazy or not, thats what forums are there for in my opinion, to get input and help...
Adis Hardis
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Thank you MikeSel

Yeah you can, there simply 'today' plugins so you can disable one, and enable the other.. Make an informed decision and then dump one if you like.. Or just keep both, and leave one disabled
Have fun, and give me a shout if you get stuck!

Nice, I'm on it, thanks for your help Mike!
Peace
Adis Hardis

i just recently installed SPB mobile on my diamond and i love it a lot more then TF3D. I thought TF3D was great at first, but it a shame it's not configurable even with TF3D advanced config etc installed. Only the very basic functionality is available. It does look very good though and maybe the future could hold great things for it. But for now and the near future SPB mobile is the winner for me
-it's better and more customizable
-it's got lot's of good plugins
-the latest version got guestures like touch flow
-runs smooth as silk
-great animation without slowdowns
-all of the functions are easy accessible

Tried spb 2.1 for a week, but changed back to tf3d.
For my use, tf3d its enough and mobile shell, is atm a bit slower than tf3d and i dont like the default look. And with a better looking vga skin its slower than the first versions of manila, so i stay with tf3d.

How to autolock and link PI to Calender? Please Help

Hi All,
Its my first time using the TouchFlo thingee. All along, I have been using the classic Today or SPB Shell on my other WM devices. Now I just got the Diamond 2 and initial usage of the TouchFlo is very disappointing.
It is not very `customisable' (if there is such a term). I can't link the calender to either Pocket informant or ThumbCal. Also it doesn't have a device lock button/icon like classic today or SPB Shell. Pressing and holding the `End' button to lock isn't very convenient for me.
I am comtemplating of installing a TouchFlo free ROM and use SPB Shell and classic today.
Or am I missing out on a good thing here because of my lack of understanding (plus stupidity)
Is there a way to link PI or ThumbCal to the Calender? and is there a more elegant/easier way to lock/autolock the phone (beside S2U2)?
Thanks

For locking the screen you can set a password on wake and that will auto lock, or like many of us just map the longpress on end-key to lock the device.

I agree wholeheartedly with the OP. Remove TF3D from your Today screen, you're far better off without it.
TouchFlo is a piece of marketing spin designed to put a glossy cover on what is already a very comprehensive and competent operating system, which just happens to be designed for use with a stylus. Stylii are currently not in fashion, finger-touching is now all the rage, along with pretty graphics, neither of which add anything to the functionality of the device. In fact, they detract from it. Whizz-bang animations take time, and finger-sized buttons on small screens take up too much screen-estate. It's so much better just to forego fashion trends and just use WM6.1 as it was intended - with a stylus and the standard Today screen with all your favourite plugins. Touchflo is buggy, restrictive and in many ways reduces the functionality of WM6.1. It's just a stopgap until 6.5 comes along, and even that is just a nod towards the fashionistas until WM7 eventually hits next year. WM7 will finally rebuild the OS from the ground up - that's what we're looking out for.