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Anyone know anything further about this wm6 mobile watch?

Anyone know anything further about the EP-2501 wm6 mobile phone watch?
http://www.internettechsupport.info/WindowsMobilePhoneWatch.html

WOW 2MP camera, wifi, 1GB memory, IWANT ONE NOW!!!!!!!!
is this a real thing or just concept?

a good mobile watch
hi,this is a good topic ,i am christain from onvon .i think this mobile watch is attractive.
Fashionable design MP4 Mobile watch Phone with Bluetooth
Main Features
Network: GSM/GPRS900/1800/1900MHz
Screen: 1.5" 260K color TFT touch screen with resolution 120*160
Memory: 128MB
Support mp3/mp4 player
Wrist band color: black and Silver
JAVA: MIDP 2.0
Messaging: MMS and SMS
Support WAP 2.0
Size:59*42*17mm
N.W.: 60g
Battery: 400mAh
Talk time: 200mins
Standby time: 80h
Languages:English, Spanish, Russian, Vienamnese, Turkish, Italian, Arabic,(English,Spanish,Vienamnese,Dutch,Turkish,Arabic,Germany)
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it says wince 6.0, and the ce 6.0 bit is added later to the logo, and really badly.
just so you know, windoes mobile 6.1 is wince 5.2
this phone is bull****
Rory

The EP-2501 is not released yet, but its release is scheduled for mid-June already, so we might see if it is for real or not quite soon. It's from the same company that made the watch phone seen in the second picture of zarn's link (which is a different model than the EP-2501!) - this one is already available, just like quite a lot of other models from this company, so I doubt the EP-2501 is just scam. Even though the specs indeed are quite spectacular...
I'm really curious how this Windows CE will run on the phone. The possibilities could be enormous! With an active community supporting watch phone-customized applications it could get really interesting. In general watch phones are underestimated at the moment - I had one in my hands at a czech flea market and must say it's extremely fascinating: Touchscreen, microSD-Card, camera, and now with the EP-2501 even WiFi... A isreali company is supposed to be developping a model with included GPS, too. Just imagine a future where these watch phones will support UMTS, too, and be capable of doing video calls - if something is cool then definitely doing video calls with a wrist watch phone...

My spidersense is tingling...

good watch mobile phone!!
Hi all.
what a good watch mobile phone!!!

Could be interesting, though how many people will be looking for the 'Our Man Flint' aka 'austin powers' ringtone for it?
Failing that - 'Calling **** tracey, come in **** tracey' as a ringtone..

M500 (as per screenshots) is a China based mobile..those touchscreen devices made to mimick other phones.
Theres been China based touch screen "N95's" ,etc...
If the screenshots are correct, then what you're looking at are the China based touchscreens that are NOT Windows Mobile devices...
If you talk to MSDN developers (Windows Mobile Side), theres no word about such a mobile watch setup in the loop for this year. Maybe 2009...but if it is, it would be through a big player (company/partner). I'd guess HP or HTC...but doubht it's going to be any small players with WM licensing.
As for the screenshots above M500 was launched last year and is a touch screen watch-phone. Battery charging last year was hell you had to connect some weird type of "crab like" metal connects to the battery part (bottom of the watch)...very annoying. Not sure if they updated anything more recently, but again not a "True" Windows Mobile OS.
You can get M500 or similar type of watch-phones for around 180-220$...I got mine for about 10 days (though I knew it was never windows anyhow), for around 12,000Rs (last year) but thought it was total crap --- my opinion....
Regards

I'm not sure about the watch, but here is also many chinese phones powered by Windows Mobile like this for example:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.13439~r.20176719
or this touch clone:
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.12811~r.20176719
And many others

Windows Mobile 6.5 Beta on XDA

Appears that there is a WM6.5 beta rom on xda for the Blue Angel device. Does anyone think it is possible to "port" it to the Blackstone
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428030

WM6.5
I think I’ll stick with 6.1 until WM7 comes out. I took a look at the video and it still looks like a turd. I was just reading the sales numbers for Q3 all I can say is the ass clowns at Microsoft need to get it together very quick.
If Microsoft doesn’t get in the game and fast, it may be to late!!
Here is a link!
http://www.cellular-news.com/story/34996.php

omg! that is soooo exciting.
i love new stuff... i am looking forward to WM7 but i can't wait to try something new before that.
what about android, no more discussion about a version to blackstone...

Interesting... Let's hope it get's ported soon

This is really exciting.. However it dosn't look that new to me which is a real shame.. Was hoping for a lot more..

if iwas to hazzard a guess as to what this 6.5 is all about, i would say that 6.5 underlying core maybe the core for WM7, they then strip all the fancy stuff off to leave a faster updated core that doesnt have too much to get messed up. I mean, if they banged out everything and it was too buggy it would be much harder to fix having it all in the mixing bowl.
So, release the basic core with the older UI and get yourself 6 months of free testing on many different devices.
Its a guess, but to me it makes sence, guess we shall have to wait an see.

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if iwas to hazzard a guess as to what this 6.5 is all about, i would say that 6.5 underlying core maybe the core for WM7, they then strip all the fancy stuff off to leave a faster updated core that doesnt have too much to get messed up. I mean, if they banged out everything and it was too buggy it would be much harder to fix having it all in the mixing bowl.
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Strangely, I was thinking the exact opposite. They're sticking with the number 6.5 because the core kernel will remain the same as 6.0/6.1 overall, but with a new, somewhat improved today screen and interface. PIE6, better touch control built-in, some other updated apps, friendlier today with potential plug-in/gadget type of support, but on the same core. Gives them a quick and dirty way to compete with the attractive new competition while preparing for 7 which will contain the brand new core that gives them a lot more flexibility to make it run smoother and have the must-have functionality that the other OSes now have. Honestly, I suspect this one's more likely as it's easier. It takes a lot less time to design a cool interface (not to mention they have the Zune and Danger teams available to help with this) than it takes to improve the kernel.

TurboFool said:
Strangely, I was thinking the exact opposite. They're sticking with the number 6.5 because the core kernel will remain the same as 6.0/6.1 overall, but with a new, somewhat improved today screen and interface. PIE6, better touch control built-in, some other updated apps, friendlier today with potential plug-in/gadget type of support, but on the same core. Gives them a quick and dirty way to compete with the attractive new competition while preparing for 7 which will contain the brand new core that gives them a lot more flexibility to make it run smoother and have the must-have functionality that the other OSes now have. Honestly, I suspect this one's more likely as it's easier. It takes a lot less time to design a cool interface (not to mention they have the Zune and Danger teams available to help with this) than it takes to improve the kernel.
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dazza9075 said:
if iwas to hazzard a guess as to what this 6.5 is all about, i would say that 6.5 underlying core maybe the core for WM7, they then strip all the fancy stuff off to leave a faster updated core that doesnt have too much to get messed up. I mean, if they banged out everything and it was too buggy it would be much harder to fix having it all in the mixing bowl.
So, release the basic core with the older UI and get yourself 6 months of free testing on many different devices.
Its a guess, but to me it makes sence, guess we shall have to wait an see.
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yay that's what forums are about, discussing!
i found both opinions very interesting. read the first one and convinced me of that right away, then the second one came and i'm all over the place. guys, the real thing is: microsoft is dropping the ball with windows mobile. they created an excellent OS to be used with a stylus than Apple came along with a (i hate to say that) great thumb friendly experience and a, sort of, cute interface and everything was messed up. and not just that there's also google and their android. microsoft got a history of learning opponents moves and counter attacking. i think before we expect we're gonna have a big surprise.
now imagine how funny would it be if even having the best hardware (blackstone) we will still have to put up with a ported version rather than a native one in the end?
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your right, it might just be a bodge job on the interface, i really hope not tho, the problem with WM isnt its UI, its the core that cant handle a decent UI, making good shells shouldnt be an issue, your right its an easy way to make it better, but even the TouchFlo UI overlays we have here are hampered by its crap core and slow responce.
Time will tell. the only thing we can be sure of is, either the core or its interface will be crap.

I think the core will remain Windows mobile 6, but with revisions. Hence, 6.5. Microsoft should at least do something about the performance and videocapabilities, since that's what the iPhone is all about.
Secondly, we've got HTC, SonyEricsson, Asus and Samsung with their shells. Microsoft should be more than able to fix up a good shell to run as todayscreen. After that's done, they should drop W.m. 6.5 development entirely and dev W.m. 7.'
In my eyes, WM 6.5 is a people pleaser. But the good stuff comes when WM7 is out.

WinMo & Xperia Drawbacks - Agree or Disagree?

Hey guys,
I got my Xperia in early October last year, and it was my first encounter with Windows Mobile. Like many of you I've had mixed feelings towards this device. I do think it can be a great phone - if you put some effort into it and with the help of the xda-developers.
But I took some time and wrote down everything that has annoyed me over the past year with WinMo and the Xperia. I thought it would be interesting to see if there are other Xperia owners out there that share my opinion
All That is Bad About Windows Mobile
So, is this article a load of cr*p or are my objections valid? Any feedback would be appreciated, thanks!
/Lars

Ì think you summed up about everything I know I hate - and love - about WM. Amen brother!

i agreed with you, but i prefer winmo 6.5 over the iphone, the blackberry and the e71.

Totally agree, and I started in somewhat the same situation.
The X1 is my first experience with Windows Mobile phones, even smartphones for that matter, and I found it horrible in the beginning. The only thing that has made it even harder for me than you is I use Apple pc's so I can't update my stock-rom without lending someones Windows pc and sure as hell can't try stuff like switching rom's!

i agree about the xperia bits and windows mobile 6.1 - but windows mobile is changing - the 6.5.2 builds with the buttons at the bottom are a huge improvement on the 6.1 we have at the moment and the Marketplace will also change Windows Mobile for the better

Agreed on most of it (99%) and laughed a lot, but FRACKING LOL'D at this:
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......but don't forget that there is a reason for the absence of those features... Why?...
...because.....
IT'S A GAMING MACHINE!

I agree too .. problem is there is no perfect device.
iPhone quite limits the software. No opera mini. No AVI playback.
WebOS and Android are still a bit young. We must wait. And in the time of X1, WebOS was not known and Android was just an infant.
WM plainly sucks, but most things can be fixed and it is actually possible to live with it.

Read the list but can't share all of it. I'm not very sensitive to GUI aspects because the critical items are one-timers mostly and you don't touch them every day. My point is that all the other fancy stuff on the market like iPhone and Android are basícally nice as well but they still are islands in a productivity kind of view. I need my windows/exchange connections and frankly, WiMo does the job. I need my particular range of software and I can get them for WiMo, I can't get that stuff for iPhone. An iPhone for me would just be "a phone" with web access but that's not what I carry that device for. I got my Spb 3 and got rid of the panelmanager (never found out what the heck I shall do with it anyway), got my street/air navigation stuff and my ERP system to run on it and I'm happy. I'm not after Facebook, I don't need strange themes every day, I don't even need weather because that's what I see when I don't stare at the screen but lift my neck (move muscles) and watch out of the window, the ones made of glas. Sometimes I think that I'm "just a happy customer" because that thing does exactly what I was expecting when I put my money on the table. Most of the things on your list I never even came across when using mine on a day-to-day basis. But I use my SE to do the job, it's not my job to do something an the SE.
Cheers - Susan

Well put!
+1 for "totally agree"...
all the frustrations ~and yet all the love too ...
Was my first WinMo too -and yes it took several weeks of trial and error(s)
Had it not been for XDA I'd have given up, but thanks to all the great people and stuff here (and my interest /patience /application) I now love my Xperia
Couldn't live without it

Thanks for all the excellent feedback! I was afraid the article was too long for anyone to be bothered reading it
Looks like you both agree and disagree with me, and that most of you have a love-hate relationship with WinMo as well.
@orelsi - do you follow Battlestar Galactica too? Frakking awesome show!

Great article. I agree with all of the minor irritants about default WinMo interface. Since I never really use MS built-in features and rely almost exclusively on 3rd Party (prettier) apps I don't really care about ugly touch-unfriendly interface.
However, for the uninitiated I can see that this could seem like a very large barrier to entry. I would have thought MS would have done to the old WinMo interface what they did with DOS and Win95/98. Hid it underneath a much prettier shell and NEVER see those old 3.1 style menus (unless a REALLY want to).
When people see my phone sometimes they ask about it and usually I can't recommend they buy it, unless they are pretty tech-savvy. Which I think is a little sad because I love my phone so much, and I wish everyone could get a device as capable as mine, but instead they settle for cruder devices.
Oh well, I am happy with mine, and maybe 6.5 and 7 will bring a little more for me to play with and recommend to others.

MapleDouglas said:
@orelsi - do you follow Battlestar Galactica too? Frakking awesome show!
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So say we all !

Windows Mobile on a Dream ?

Hi Guys
Is it possibly that i can flash a WM6.5 Rom on a HTC Dream?
cu
evo

You cant, no support and no roms for it.

Your going to get flamed . Should have searched....

Idk why you'd want to in the first place. XD

WM would be interesting but I'm to much of an Android fan to change over.

CrazyEye said:
WM would be interesting but I'm to much of an Android fan to change over.
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+1 agreed.

WM on the HTC Dream
THAT WOULD BE 1337!
But nope, impossible.
Why:
The biggest issue in running WM on the Dream is hardware support. The Dream has a nice Qualcomm 528 Mhz dual-core CPU which would run WM 6.5 nicely.. perhaps more fast and usable than Android. (I STILL LOVE THE 'DROID THO!)
I think Windows Mobile (WinCE) supports YAFFS file system (Yet Another Flash File System), so it would run off the NAND of the Dream.
If the boot partition on the NAND is the main bootloader that starts the Linux kernel, it might be possible to modify it to run WM. If the bootloader is some read-only crap on the motherboard, then we can't change it. I'm not sure.
WM doesn't have support for many components of the Dream, like the accelerometer, capacitive screen, etc. I think the Qualcomm CPU is supported because it was used in another WM device... thats probably it
Since there are no useful developer documents released by HTC on how the hardware works, we can't really write drivers for WM.
Besides, WM isn't as easy to mod as Android... cmon, we got a totally different Android build from a MOTOROLA, and we ported it to the HTC Dream. That's unbelievably 1337. But, all the dev needed to do was go in, remove the drivers and other crap required for the Motorola hardware, stick in the crap used for the Dream, tweak the boot image so it starts on the Dream, do some more stuff.. and bam... it boots.
If HTC was crazy enough to build and support WM for a strictly Google marketed device like the Dream, Google will conduct thermonuclear warfare with every single entity of HTC devices, like the one you're holding in your hand.... that action would make planet Earth implode, thus killing everything except for the small organisms growing on Mars...

ANDROID still pwns WM...
PLUS, Windows Mobile is a cluster-f***.
ANDROID is simple and easy to manage.
Windows Mobile is proprietary, closed-source crap that's good to use but hard to change.
ANDROID is open-source, easy to open and tweak around, and it's better to use.
When I first used Windows Mobile, I thought "THIS IS 1337!"
But later when I tried modifying it and hacking registry keys, I found out that WM is very restricted. Maybe not as much as Mobile OS X (iPhone,) but I would get sick of using WM because of crappy UI areas and other strange behaviors that I couldn't change because:
I was not able to change the source code of "Today.exe", compile it, push it to my phone, and enjoy WM...
If the scroll bar in Explorer has a bad size/position, I can't change it... OH! But I can just use another file manager of home screen... but then it will just get more complicated...
HTC has this problem fixed with their WM devices (HTC TouchFLO), but outside of their shiny home-screen, it's just a pain in the *** again.
Microsoft, in my opinion, did a mediocre job in optimizing WM 6.5 for touch-screen devices. Google is doing a great job with ANDROID... in under a year, they went from 1.0 to 1.1, then 1.1 to 1.5 with major updates. They just released 1.6, and now they're working on 2.0!
Enough said, WM is a cluster-f***.
I want my Cupcakes, Donuts and tasty Eclair!

I have been asking this question since the G1 launch, I used to have an MDA and Wing with Winmo on them. There were some sweet ROMs cooked for those devices but the CPU and RAM sucked horribly. There are some HTC phones coming out with the same hardware as the G1 so maybe once those hit the street we will see more options for our Dream hardware.
I would stick with Android but it would be nice to have the option of Winmo with Touchflo 3D on the Dream's hardware!

I bought my wife a G1 (with android), I bought my son a touch pro (with windows mobile). Android blows Windows Mobile away - not even close.

i think it would be nice to have the option, but i couldn't see myself using it for very long at all. it seems sooo, well ummm not amazing, after android.

Ok.
Can I any Mobile OS flash on the G1 ?
It's not that I do not like Android.
Android is very very cool, but how is the collaboration with winXP and Android?

qwerty3656 said:
I bought my wife a G1 (with android), I bought my son a touch pro (with windows mobile). Android blows Windows Mobile away - not even close.
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I've used WM devices from 2004 till 2009, because my old phone got messed up t mobile offered me the G1.. At first i hesitated, but it didnt even take me 3 days to love Android more than WM

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KNOWFEAR-AHHHAHAHAHAHA!
EVO-WINMO leaves a bad taste in my mouth...but you can give me your G and I'll send you my SHADOW...I'm sure Drizzy can help work out the details...and you can keep the evo lol

Sorry but even WANTING to run winmo ANYTHING on an android device is silly in my opinion....I smashed my t-mobile shadow to bits after i got a g1!

Windows mobile is losing of Symbian and Android by own weapon: HOME SCREEN

I don't know why MS or other companies have stopped creating good home screen solutions.
Last good thing we know is Mobile Shell 3.5 but it is far away from perfect.
Symbian (N97) phones have nice solution with lot of widgets as:RSS, Weather, Photocontacts, analogue clock, facebook.
Android has good widgets and lot of them. You can create anything of your home screen.
Windows users (as most "business" ones ) need to search for "home made" stuff as upgrades for Mobile Shell or classic today screen on xda.forum or other sources.
Today screen of windows mobile (classic, titanium, touch flo, mobile shell) still are unfinished.
FLO does not have possibilities to put all widgets in one screen (you cant use rss, contacts, weather, clock... on one screen)
Mobile shell even does not have rss widget at all (WHAT A SHAME)
You can do that with classic layouts but you are unable to move around the screen (you are only able to vertically re-arange layouts)
I had the first HTC Canary... home screen was something innovative, something modern but now...

hmmm windows mobile 7 has no widgets for homescreen?
For Flo (aka Sense) there is CHT, all widgets on one screen etc...

Did you check out CHT?

Because of WP7. WM will never have the potential to compete consumer-wise with Android or Symbian - Android is what WM should have been, and Symbian does not require such complexity to achieve some potential.
WP7 has a take on widgets in the form of Live Tiles. I find they feel more organised than Android widgets, which vary tremendously in size, style, etc.

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i ve tried this on xperia. it is highly customizable but not enough.
still far away of android and symbian.
not enough for business needs.

xmarkom said:
i ve tried this on xperia. it is highly customizable but not enough.
still far away of android and symbian.
not enough for business needs.
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Did you have Xperia? Just run Android on it! I'm waiting for DOC3000 theme for WVGA here. I think it will be very customizable.

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i think CHT is enough to me

xmarkom said:
i ve tried this on xperia. it is highly customizable but not enough.
still far away of android and symbian.
not enough for business needs.
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Indeed it's a small community now and a lot of ppl have moved on. But imo it's eyecandy adaptable and the progress on CHT is impressive. With enough work this can be great. Android is commercialized meaning more support which is why they have made so much progress. Symbian is linux based meaning beyond customizable but imo the n900 is the device that let's you do anything meaning it's god like smartphone. But that doesn't leave winmo out. It still needs more support and beleive it or not it's getting it. More ppl are customizing and a lot of mods have been released.
So who knows in the future maybe in a year or two this'll die out depending ont the support it gets. But winmo faithfuls haven't given up. Tbh I have an iphone 3g i just use this phone for customizing but I for one am impressed... :3
As for the business part of it I wouldn't rely on winmo it's actually not suited for it, the whole kernel is pretty buggy and god knows if you get an BSOD(black screen of death). I understand that other OS phones are pretty stable but winmo is tweakable so far I haven't had one SOD in 3 months thanks to chefs and all that.
@MrBeoTP2: hurr
The thing about your homescreen most of your components are used by other android homescreens xD

SPB MS have rss widget, but u must buy spb news