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MS voice command vs Voice Speed dial

Hello
can somebody help me understanding the difference betwenn Voice command and speed dial and if I can use both on the same PDA ?
So far I understand that
- Speed Dial dials numbers and start programs by using voice tags
- you need to train each name to be recognized
- there is no true voice recognition
- Voice command dials numbers and starts programs by voice recognition
- in addition VC reads calendar entries and SMS/E-Mail
- there is no training mode to increase accurancy
So which program would provide better results for recognize and dial numbers by voice ?
Can I run both in parallel and use VC for the calendar function and Voice speed dial for the dialing ?
Plus I try to install VC 1.6 now .. but the button maps only to the explorer button on my TytnII .. not able to move him to the voice record button with the button application in settings
any suggestion / fix
Thanks freecall

freecall said:
not able to move him to the voice record button with the button application in settings
any suggestion / fix
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I have the same problem.... any solution?!?!?!?

Cyberon is crap. I posted a detailed procedure for replacing it here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337501

I have installed Cyberon voice commander v2.0 and i am very happy with it when i use it with my bluetooth!!!
My only problem is that i do not know how to assign this program to the default "button 6".
I think default settings are:
"Button 6" --> Cyberon voice commander and
"Button 6 (Hold)" --> Record. (This one works).

hmm that sounds like a drastic deinstall .. so anyway to get the Voice speed dial back without doing a full hard reset if I would it like better than VC after some testing ?
Freecall

M$ Voice Command ROCKS!
Ok I don’t say that about many applications especially M$ ones but I love VC. I keep my phone in its case and the BT ear piece in the ear, when the phone rings or I get a Text message VC tells me who is calling or reads the text to me. If I have an appointment but don’t recall what time it is, I just ask VC.
As far as accuracy in voice dial, it can’t be beat, say “Call: Joe Blow on mobile phone” and it will confirm “Call Joe Blow on mobile?” never misses. Say; “Dial 2125551212” and it will confirm and dial the number. No voice tags no training and it works for anyone. If my wife grabs my phone and needs to call someone she hits the VC button and off she goes.
Ok so there is one issue, with the Tilt there is no convenient button to map too, but since I do all my dialing from the BT headset or car unit it doesn’t matter to me. If you don’t mind it maped to your IE soft key ok, you can get to IE 3 or 4 other ways. On my old wizard (long live the wizard) I had it mapped to the record button and it worked great.
Russ741

Russ741 said:
Ok I don’t say that about many applications especially M$ ones but I love VC. I keep my phone in its case and the BT ear piece in the ear, when the phone rings or I get a Text message VC tells me who is calling or reads the text to me. If I have an appointment but don’t recall what time it is, I just ask VC.
As far as accuracy in voice dial, it can’t be beat, say “Call: Joe Blow on mobile phone” and it will confirm “Call Joe Blow on mobile?” never misses. Say; “Dial 2125551212” and it will confirm and dial the number. No voice tags no training and it works for anyone. If my wife grabs my phone and needs to call someone she hits the VC button and off she goes.
Ok so there is one issue, with the Tilt there is no convenient button to map too, but since I do all my dialing from the BT headset or car unit it doesn’t matter to me. If you don’t mind it maped to your IE soft key ok, you can get to IE 3 or 4 other ways. On my old wizard (long live the wizard) I had it mapped to the record button and it worked great.
Russ741
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I have to agree with Russ. Microsoft Voice Commander is by far the best ~$17.00 I have spent for this phone, as well as the 8125 I had before this. The Voice regconition is awesome. I did have to change the buttons as described above. I chose the camera button as I never use the camera anyway. It works great with my HT700(headset) as well as the HT820(bluetooth headphones). The options allow for a good level of customization as well.

that sounds realy good and I will start testing it .Two quick questions to the comments above:
- have you installed VC without deleting / un-installing Voice speed dial on your Kaiser ?
- second it looks my device recognize all VC commands like time, date , help , signal etc but when I say call First Name Last Name it never finds any of my 590 contacts .. even it the name is as simple as Taxi G7 .. beep comes back empty .
When I say just call .. it dials a number I do not even recognize.
Can this be related that I do not have a option menu for contact in the VC settings (it is greyed ) , I can only select the notification button ?
Or is this maybe because I use PI 2007 ?
Thanks Freecall

freecall said:
that sounds realy good and I will start testing it .Two quick questions to the comments above:
- have you installed VC without deleting / un-installing Voice speed dial on your Kaiser ?
- second it looks my device recognize all VC commands like time, date , help , signal etc but when I say call First Name Last Name it never finds any of my 590 contacts .. even it the name is as simple as Taxi G7 .. beep comes back empty .
When I say just call .. it dials a number I do not even recognize.
Can this be related that I do not have a option menu for contact in the VC settings (it is greyed ) , I can only select the notification button ?
Or is this maybe because I use PI 2007 ?
Thanks Freecall
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freecall,
Right now i have both installed (getting ready to delete Voice Dial) and VC is partially functional. I will accept commands and process them correctly but it will not announce calls, read messages or calendar data. So once i have VD removed I will let you know.
I recommend you also remove voice dial before trying anymore tests.
Russ741

Russ741 said:
freecall,
Right now i have both installed (getting ready to delete Voice Dial) and VC is partially functional. I will accept commands and process them correctly but it will not announce calls, read messages or calendar data. So once i have VD removed I will let you know.
I recommend you also remove voice dial before trying anymore tests.
Russ741
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I did not uninstall Voice Dial. IF you want to hear the calls and emails, make you configure VC properly. There is settings for only:
1.) Only announce during Free-Time. Make sure you check that one to whatever you want.
2.) Only High Priorty Emails get annouced. Again, check whichever option you want.

Where do I get a list of commands that VC will recognize? E.G Dial, Recall, on Mobile, etc.

Say "What can I say?" and you'll have your answer...

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Where do I get a list of commands that VC will recognize? E.G Dial, Recall, on Mobile, etc.
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or go to the Microsoft website and look up VoiceCommand 1.6 for PPC. The list is really quite long!
Russ741

Any ideas Gang?
So, after following the thread for removing voice dialer and remapping the PTT button to become button 6 and button 6 (hold) VC is still not announcing incoming calls (and yes I have configured the options!) anyone have any idea why it would perform 90% of its duty and not the last 10%?
Russ741

Are you sure it's not announcing them, or is it possible it's announcing them through the "wrong" speaker? If you've got it set to use BT, BT, and only BT, then all of the announcements go through the headset, or don't get made if it's not currently connected (like walking out of range and then back in).
I tweaked mine to announce only through the speaker, then turned it off because the robot voice annoyed me, but at first I thought it wasn't working...

One question about VC...
Do you have to say the person's full name to dial them? Let's say I have a contact name John Smith, do I have to say "Call John Smith Mobile", or can I program nicknames somewhere within the software so I can say something like "Call Smitty"?

It's based on the contact name, so "Call Smitty" will confuse it.

Is it possible to send messages just using voice or only receive them?

jackjohnson said:
One question about VC...
Do you have to say the person's full name to dial them? Let's say I have a contact name John Smith, do I have to say "Call John Smith Mobile", or can I program nicknames somewhere within the software so I can say something like "Call Smitty"?
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It is based on what ever names you have in contacts so, for example if I want to call my office I say; "Call work" since there is only one number in the contacts database VC doesnt ask for Mobile, home or work. And since my office is just listed as First Name: Work Last Name: <blank> it understands.
Russ741

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Is it possible to send messages just using voice or only receive them?
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I simply reads the text or email to you, so there is no way to compose a message with VC.
Russ741

Automatic SMS message delivery notification?

I would like to have a message delivery notification for each of my outgoing SMS text messages.
Currently I have to tap manually the “Request message delivery notification” option for each SMS text message I'm sending.(At the screen where you are typing the message click on: menu -> message options -> “Request message delivery notification”)
How can I get automatically a "message delivery notification" for each SMS sent?

Try setting the following registry key to '0'
HKLM\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\SMSNoSentMsg

Wrong... thats the key that tells the device to confirm it has sent the msg (which most XDA members rush to turn off), not the one that tells it to confirm delivery to the recipient.
For that you need:
HKCU|Software|Microsoft|Inbox|Settings|SMSDeliveryNotify = 1
(and be aware that some networks charge for delivery notifications)

Thanks for the fast reply. Yes, I mean the notification that you get from the provider when it has been delivered at the recipient.
But I don't see "SMSDelivery Notify" in: HKCU|Software|Microsoft|Inbox|Settings
Might it be somewhere else in WM6?
FYI: I have a TyTN II WWE edition (if there's any difference)
Btw, can I edit it with Total Commander?
If yes, do I have to choose for decimal or heximal?
Thanks!

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Wrong... thats the key that tells the device to confirm it has sent the msg (which most XDA members rush to turn off), not the one that tells it to confirm delivery to the recipient.
For that you need:
HKCU|Software|Microsoft|Inbox|Settings|SMSDeliveryNotify = 1
(and be aware that some networks charge for delivery notifications)
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im using vario 3 and it seems i havent got this reg , can i add it ?

You can do this without editing the registry:
in Outlook goto tools/options then tap sms/mms and you'll have 2 checkboxes, one is with delivery notification "globally"

Yes the top one is "request deilvery notifications" and that means by default.
(Again remember some networks charge for delivery reports - and dont include them in your text bundles)

does t-mob uk do it ? i mean do they charge ?

i have the att tilt and i want to turn off the "message sent" notification that everyone hates, however all i can find is the same thing about going to the inbox\settings folder but my phone does not have that, when i go to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\ the only folders i see are \SendDriver and \svc and inside \svc there is \ActiveSync, \IMAP4, \POP3, and \SMS, i tried putting the smsnosentmsg dword in all these folders and any subfolders but still have the notification

ive got the delivery notifications turned on, is there anyway to get the phone to tell me who ie the recipients name instead of just a number in the delivery notification?
cheers

united002 said:
ive got the delivery notifications turned on, is there anyway to get the phone to tell me who ie the recipients name instead of just a number in the delivery notification?
cheers
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Install SMSDRfix this will replace the number in the delivery notification with the contact name from your address book.
Wiggy

thanks mate your a star works like a dream. was the only good thing about bloody nokia's out of the box!!

Hello, I have an XDA Stellar (TYTN II) running WM6. My old TYTN I had both tick boxes, but my new XDA only has the 'Unicode' one. Is there another way?
Many Thanks

Hello
I also have just bought an XDA Stella (Like tony38 above) and unlike all the other XDA's I've owned (Before this the Trion) the Message Delivery notification option in the options tick box is missing in the message settings and when I go into the regedit on my pc amending it remotely, it won't let me edit the SMSDeliveryNotify field from 0 to 1 and says permission is denied. If I use a pda based regedit it let me edit the field but as soon as I reboot the pda it resets it to 0 again.
I use message delivery notification a lot as I deal with people who are on planes a lot so I usually get the delivery report when they land and then I know I can call them etc.
If anyone nows how to fix this then I'd greatly appreciate it as its really annoying and I don't now why they have removed the option for delivery notification.
Many thanks
David

I've seen on some phones that you can be informed when your text message has been read rather than just delivered. Is this possible with windows mobile?

Does delivery notification mean that the person actually opened the text?

Keypad disappears after dialing a number on Tilt

Has anyone figured out a registry tweak so that the keypad doesn't disappear after you dial a number on the Tilt. There must be a way to fix it - I notice when I push 1 for speed dial to call my voicemail the keypad remains on the screen, but when I dial any other number it disappears. This is one of the few annoyances I haven't been able to fix on my Tilt. Thanks.

Keep keypad when calling . . .
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Has anyone figured out a registry tweak so that the keypad doesn't disappear after you dial a number on the Tilt. There must be a way to fix it - I notice when I push 1 for speed dial to call my voicemail the keypad remains on the screen, but when I dial any other number it disappears. This is one of the few annoyances I haven't been able to fix on my Tilt. Thanks.
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Excellent first question!
I don't know the answer, but I'd like to know, too.
Obviously you can hit the left softkey for "Keypad" but that's an extra step that one might prefer not to have to do, but rather have the keypad remain showing, and have the left softkey option be "Call Status"
If you call a lot of numbers where you have to enter more numbers when prompted, this might be the preferred default.

No one knows? I'd love to change this as well.

This is the first "fix" i need to do.
HTC should sort this out and provide a fee down load. They are silly to think it would not be a problem .
There is a fix etc.. but its part of a big bundle of stuff that scares most "newbies" away.
Can someone not make a simple fix just for this problem with a very easy method to download and set up etc
I am sure that many members do not have the technical minds of most of you!

Call Forwarding shortcuts....

Anyone have a shortcut for enabling call forwarding? I always forward to the same number. I would like to be able to use a button or voice command to bring up the call forwarding screen, and then just click yes/OK to enable or disable it. Anyone else using this?
By the way. I have been using ATT's fast forward service for a couple of years. Do I need to continue paying for this, or will the phone redirect the calls?
Thanks,
Tom

Bump. I'd really love to find how to do this also, I'm doing it several times a day ...

On my 8925 phone I created two contacts.
Turn Forwarding On:
_OnForward
*21*5125551212#
(replace 5125551212 with the areacode and phone number you want to forward your calls to)
Turn Forwarding Off:
_OffForward:
##21#
The _ puts the two items at the top of my contacts list. I click contacts and then press call on the selected forwarding option. Sometimes I get an error message "command not supported", but that is related to my phone's connection strength and not the programming. This has been working well for me for about a year. I have tried to make a couple of buttons that dial the contacts directly from another screen, but that hasn't worked. You have to open contacts and the press call on the option you want.
Later-

Good morning gents.
I have an HTC TyTN II with Win Mobile 6.1
I created the contacts like that and on my "Favorite People" page I put the contact there, it just says :
"Cannot Complete the call. the Signal may be unavailable or the phone number may not be valid. Verify the number or try again later."
From the contact list it works of course.
Another question regarding call forwarding. Is there a way to have an icon on the top bar that says the call ARE being forwarded... I keep missing a couple of calls that end on my home answering machine because I forgot to forward

Vesperatus-
I have all of your same issues. As far as I know, there aren't any solutions. You just have to remember to unforward your phone.....
-Later

Text message reader

Is there anyway I can make my MDA Vario IV read text messages? I had a program that did it on my N95, and TBH, I miss having it.
I've done a search, but it didn't really come up with anything.

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Is there anyway I can make my MDA Vario IV read text messages? I had a program that did it on my N95, and TBH, I miss having it.
I've done a search, but it didn't really come up with anything.
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of the tpoic here but i have vario IV in uk to. when you receive a text message does yours display the contact names as mine just dipslays the number.
do you know how to change this???
mitesh

mistrymit said:
of the tpoic here but i have vario IV in uk to. when you receive a text message does yours display the contact names as mine just dipslays the number.
do you know how to change this???
mitesh
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I already posted this in the other thread you started. Please dont start new threads....search and if you are unable to find anything (which is rare) then post new questions here if you need help rather than starting a new thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=477235

stevie1556 said:
Is there anyway I can make my MDA Vario IV read text messages? I had a program that did it on my N95, and TBH, I miss having it.
I've done a search, but it didn't really come up with anything.
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Does your MDA not have Voice Command preinstalled? If so, it's already capable of this...
Go to SETTINGS (from Start menu) --> PERSONAL (tab) --> VOICE COMMAND
The checkbox next to "Enabled" should be checked, then scroll down and check the one next to "Messaging" in the list.
Now, tap on "Messaging" to select it then tap "Options" on the right. Deselect the "High Priority Messages Only" checkbox, and ensure the "Announce New Messages" is selected. Tap "OK".
Finally, tap "Notifications" and choose the radio button that best fits your situation. I personally have it set to only announce notifications through my bluetooth headset, but that's because I get some pretty risqué messages that I would never want read aloud through the phone's speaker (especially in public!) I also don't have "Only during free time" selected, because if it's going through my headset anyway, it won't be a distraction in a meeting because the headset will be off, thus no voice notification.
Anyway, hope this helps!

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Does your MDA not have Voice Command preinstalled? If so, it's already capable of this...
Go to SETTINGS (from Start menu) --> PERSONAL (tab) --> VOICE COMMAND
The checkbox next to "Enabled" should be checked, then scroll down and check the one next to "Messaging" in the list.
Now, tap on "Messaging" to select it then tap "Options" on the right. Deselect the "High Priority Messages Only" checkbox, and ensure the "Announce New Messages" is selected. Tap "OK".
Finally, tap "Notifications" and choose the radio button that best fits your situation. I personally have it set to only announce notifications through my bluetooth headset, but that's because I get some pretty risqué messages that I would never want read aloud through the phone's speaker (especially in public!) I also don't have "Only during free time" selected, because if it's going through my headset anyway, it won't be a distraction in a meeting because the headset will be off, thus no voice notification.
Anyway, hope this helps!
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Thanks for the reply.
I've just been into the settings like you have said, and I don't have it. Is the Voice Command the MS one? If so, i have it on my laptop but haven't put it on the phone yet (I downloaded it because I liked the way my N95 spoke the name of the person calling me).
I'm going to try installing it now and see what happens.