TyTN 2: Unsociable Bluetooth partner! - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Having a Bluetooth problem that I couldn't find on searching the forum.
Tried to send a .cab file to another XDA user the other day. Devices found eachother and paired fine. I was then unable to send the file to her. Just get the message "failed".
She however was able to send a .doc file back to me with no problems. I then tried to resend that file to her, but no joy. Unable to send any files at all, regardless of format.
Tried setting up the pair from my side, and then from hers, but still no joy. After half an hour, she commented that my phone was very rude, taking stuff from others but not willing to share in return!
Have since discovered that it will send files via Bluetooth to PC, but not other mobile devices. Any ideas why not?

No one else has had this problem??

Are you using a rom that has beam disabled? If no, have you disabled it on your own? I believe beam needs to be fully functional in order to do this (or so I've heard).
I'm not speaking from personal experience as I always keep beam intact (and if it is disabled in the rom I flash, I re-enable it). In turn, I have no issues sending via BT. Might be worth a try for you.
Also, a common misconception is: "Why does the Kaiser have "Beam" if there is no IR?". Many are viewing this as an oversight on HTC's part. However, beam is not just for IR.

resist said:
Are you using a rom that has beam disabled? If no, have you disabled it on your own? I believe beam needs to be fully functional in order to do this (or so I've heard).
I'm not speaking from personal experience as I always keep beam intact (and if it is disabled in the rom I flash, I re-enable it). In turn, I have no issues sending via BT. Might be worth a try for you.
Also, a common misconception is: "Why does the Kaiser have "Beam" if there is no IR?". Many are viewing this as an oversight on HTC's part. However, beam is not just for IR.
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You need beam on... I hard reseted my device several times as I could send from PC/Tilt to Trinity but nothing to Tilt. Then I realized beam was off

I don't think "Beam" is off, as I am still able to send things across to my laptop, and from laptop to TyTN, without any problems (well, only problems linked to MS's crappy interpretation of Bluetooth - no problems from the TyTN end, I mean
EDIT: Actually, how do you check beam is on? If I go to Start>Settings>Connections (tab)>Beam, the only option I get is a check box to select "receive all incoming beams". What about outgoing beams. Am using stock Orange ROM.

was the option to allow bluetooth file transfers enabled also? it has to be enabled for the phone to accept incoming files

fisha21 said:
Having a Bluetooth problem that I couldn't find on searching the forum.
Tried to send a .cab file to another XDA user the other day. Devices found eachother and paired fine. I was then unable to send the file to her. Just get the message "failed".
She however was able to send a .doc file back to me with no problems. I then tried to resend that file to her, but no joy. Unable to send any files at all, regardless of format.
Tried setting up the pair from my side, and then from hers, but still no joy. After half an hour, she commented that my phone was very rude, taking stuff from others but not willing to share in return!
Have since discovered that it will send files via Bluetooth to PC, but not other mobile devices. Any ideas why not?
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You do not need to pair devices for file transfers. Delete the association on each device and if the receiving device is set to 'Discoverable' you will pick them up when you select 'Beam'
Also, some PDA devices have different levels of transfer security that is non-adjustable and conflicts, go to 'Settings'-'Connections'-'Bluetooth'-'Security' and un-check the box for passkey Authentication for 'Beam'
You still have the choice of accepting or rejecting the file but to avoid idiot 'spamming' on BT it is best to revert to non-discoverable when in public places.

dolbe said:
was the option to allow bluetooth file transfers enabled also? it has to be enabled for the phone to accept incoming files
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Under Start>Settings>Connections (tab)>Beam, the only entry is "receive all incoming beams". The rest of the page is blank. Certainly nothing about accepting incoming files.

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Newbie Questions

1) I installed SMS chat thread v 1.0 which did not work. i think it is designed for touch screens and I have an HTC s730. I used the WM remove programs tool but it left behind several folders which can be seen only on the folders screen for messaging. I lso have no confirmation after send feature. The company, vito technology has not responded. Any ideas?
2)can anyone recommend a GOOD sms app for the HTC S730?
thanks!
How can I make absolutely sure my phone doesn't connect to 3G/EDGE unintentionally? I don't want it to default to this when it can't connect to a specific WiFi-signal, since my calling plan has terrible rates for data transfers.
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How can I make absolutely sure my phone doesn't connect to 3G/EDGE unintentionally? I don't want it to default to this when it can't connect to a specific WiFi-signal, since my calling plan has terrible rates for data transfers.
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i may have the perfect solution for this....(especially if you're operator is Tmobile)
go to start>settings>connections>connections.
manage existing modem connections.
tap and hold that connection located there and delete it.
now without connecting to a wifi signal, open your browser and type a site (ex. google.com) and if that edge/3g doesn't pop up, SUCCESS!!!
hope it works and good luck.
Is there registry hack to force phone to ask user confirmation before connecting using GPRS/EDGE/3G. All normal phones has that...
umchriswho said:
i may have the perfect solution for this....(especially if you're operator is Tmobile)
go to start>settings>connections>connections.
manage existing modem connections.
tap and hold that connection located there and delete it.
now without connecting to a wifi signal, open your browser and type a site (ex. google.com) and if that edge/3g doesn't pop up, SUCCESS!!!
hope it works and good luck.
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I'm not recognizing the menu choices there, is this for a s730? I did try to change user name and password in GRPS settings under Start>settings>connections>GPRS, but that didn't seem to help either.
What omadon99 suggested about a registry hack would be perfect, since I don't want to permanently disable 3G/EDGE, I just don't want the phone to connect to it and cost me money without confirmation when WiFi doesn't work.

Problems with BBC on the Tilt

Hi everybody,
I'm really struggling with the BBC for the Tilt. I would MUCH rather use ActiveSync, but it's against company policy so I'm SOL on that. I'm forced to either buy a Blackberry and give up my Tilt or install BBC. I chose the later.
I've been having problems with it ever since and I've had trouble finding resources to help out (mainly because most people don't use BBC on Tilt).
Here are the problems:
1. BBC often will randomly say "suspended by user" (even though I haven't), which prevents me from getting new messages, and unless I'm always looking to see if the service is running, I'll never know if I'm not getting email or if it suspended itself
2. BBC will just as often randomly say, "blocked - radio in use".
3. I can't get any integration going with the calendar at all. And when I receive calendar/meeting requests, it comes to the Tilt as email messages, not as meeting requests, so I can't accept them and add it to my calendar
Now, the limited amount of information I was able to find suggests that problem #2 may have something to do with interference with ActiveSync. I've tried the technique where I add a fake server source then make the schedule manual, but ActiveSync still won't go away permanently. I use it to access my Tilt files through Windows, so I can't uninstall it altogether. Also, when I tried to uninstall it before, it deleted all of my non-SIM contacts from the Tilt along with it, because all of my contacts were imported from Outlook.
Anybody have any ideas or solutions?
I think these are common issues, especially if you are using the Tilt on AT&T.
1) I'll go days without losing connection to blackberry services then it seems like it will lose it every night for 2 or 3 days. It may be related to activesync or it may be related to network issues. I always check the blackberry icon. If there's a "!" there, I know I need to reconnect.
2) At least with AT&T, you can only have one active data connection. Either it's the blackberry service or it's something else. The something else is active and keeping the blackberry service from connecting.
3) Check your pim options screen and make sure the calendar box is checked. If I remember correctly, when I first installed it was not checked by default. Contacts, tasks and notes are also configured in this screen.
You may have a point about activesync. I always kill it when I can but it auto starts. If I understand correctly, it is checking or setting the network time?
mitchrl said:
I think these are common issues, especially if you are using the Tilt on AT&T.
1) I'll go days without losing connection to blackberry services then it seems like it will lose it every night for 2 or 3 days. It may be related to activesync or it may be related to network issues. I always check the blackberry icon. If there's a "!" there, I know I need to reconnect.
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Yeah, that's what I usually have to do, but I hate that I have to do it - it defeats the purpose of push email if you have to always check to see if it's still pushing, lol.
People have recommended uninstalling ActiveSync when using BBC, but I can't possibly see how that's practical because I use ActiveSync to maintain my contacts and to add music and files to my Tilt. Is there some other way of doing this without using ActiveSync?
2) At least with AT&T, you can only have one active data connection. Either it's the blackberry service or it's something else. The something else is active and keeping the blackberry service from connecting.
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That's what I've read. But there have been times when I've done a Stop All on all services, and I still got a radio in use message. Strangely, there have been times when both ActiveSync and IE were running and I was able to get BBC running no problem. The inconsistency is maddening because it becomes impossible to isolate and cause and solve it.
3) Check your pim options screen and make sure the calendar box is checked. If I remember correctly, when I first installed it was not checked by default. Contacts, tasks and notes are also configured in this screen.
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Whatever is being maintained by ActiveSync (contacts) is greyed out on my Tilt, but everything else (calendar, notes and tasks) is checked, so I should be OK. But calendard items are still arriving in my inbox as regular email.
You may have a point about activesync. I always kill it when I can but it auto starts. If I understand correctly, it is checking or setting the network time?
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Interesting. I thought I was doing something wrong since people swear by that technique as a way to get ActiveSync to go away permanently. But it always comes back for me.
It says "radio in use" when Media.Net is active possibly through a IE or weather type program.
Some of the NEWER ROMS allow dual connections for BBConnect & Media.net. I saw a thread yesterday that showed the precise registry entry to make to allow this without burning a new ROM.
What thread was this? And when you say "newer ROMS" are you referring to official ROMs like the one on the HTC website or the XDA ROMs?
Demigawd,
Make sure the wireless calendar service (cical) is running properly. What version of bbc are you running? I'm running 4.0.0.97. It's behavior is a bit different than previous versions. It seems to block other data connections instead of bb getting blocked.
The only other suggestion I have is to remove and reinstall bbc. I would also have bes sync everything including contacts until you are sure calendaring is running correctly. If it's still not working correctly, maybe check your bes for a non-standard it policy.
I think the registry entry for multiple data apns is volatile and gets overwritten after every soft reset. A custom rom is probably the only way around that.

Bluetooth file transfer fails when in standby

When trying to transfer a file from another phone to my Kaiser, if my phone is in standby, the sending phone can not connect and displays transfer failed.
It works fine when my phone is not in stand by and the display is lit up.
Three questions.
1. Is there a setting so the phone will accept incoming BT file transfers when in standby?
2. Is there a way to have the phone automatically accept the incoming file? I.E. Not have to select Yes to save?
3. Is there a way to change the default location that the file is saved to?
Thank you in advance.
rodentkj said:
When trying to transfer a file from another phone to my Kaiser, if my phone is in standby, the sending phone can not connect and displays transfer failed.
It works fine when my phone is not in stand by and the display is lit up.
Three questions.
1. Is there a setting so the phone will accept incoming BT file transfers when in standby?
2. Is there a way to have the phone automatically accept the incoming file? I.E. Not have to select Yes to save?
3. Is there a way to change the default location that the file is saved to?
Thank you in advance.
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Same here, I have to turn it on.. I find I don't have to unlock s2u2 or anything, but it does have to be on.
I think you can change the location in the Bluetooth settings, it's unchecked by default and set to \my documents\bluetooth share or such, I think if you check it and change it, it'll save it to a different place than just \my documents
When the phone is in stand-by its asleep.
Something has to wake it. And that's usually a button press or receiving a call.
To allow Bluetooth to wake the phone the Bluetooth Radio would have to be left on all the time. Depleting your battery much to fast.
JimmyMcGee said:
When the phone is in stand-by its asleep.
Something has to wake it. And that's usually a button press or receiving a call.
To allow Bluetooth to wake the phone the Bluetooth Radio would have to be left on all the time. Depleting your battery much to fast.
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I disagree. The Bluetooth radio is indeed on all the time. This is proven by establishing a Bluetooth Dial-Up networking connection to the the phone while it is in standby. Which wakes-up my phone. In addition, one can query the available services of the phone when in standby. Thus the reason I ask why the phone needs to be out of stand by when sending a file to it.
Other BT services can be used or established when in standby mode. Why can't file transfer?
see this thread. The program says that it will allow you to set it to auto-accept bluetooth transfers as well as customize the save location. i do not see anything about when the device is in standby. do read my post at the end of the thread though before install the application. latest version here.
Thanks for the program. But I'll pass. Too many issues as I read it.
i htink all tytns do this as mine does. and so did my universal i think its a security thing so people cant hack the phone while its asleep, (ie if someone wants to do something you screen has to be on so you can see whats happeneing

[Q] Wifi direct Z1 on 4.3 couple of questions

Was trying to show someone wifi direct the other day and as it turns out it didn't want to work.
Went to album, selected a pic, pressed menu and share, scrolled down and there was no option for wifi direct.
I've also read that you have to pair with the device first.
I even tried an app that I used to use called SuperBeam which also didn't work.
Does anyone have this working?
I was attempting to send files to a Note 3, even android beam didn't work.
I don't use this feature all the time but it'd be nice to have a feature working if it's supposed to.
Cheers.
Superbeam works fine for me. 41mbps+ for large single file transfers
Sent from my C6902 using xda app-developers app
Same here. I was trying to connect via Wi-Fi to my TV Sony. I paired the devices but I never get it work and never displayed any pictures on the TV or even send them via Wi-Fi, I missing the option sending via Wi-Fi too. I don't know, I just give up.
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Same here. I was trying to connect via Wi-Fi to my TV Sony. I paired the devices but I never get it work and never displayed any pictures on the TV or even send them via Wi-Fi, I missing the option sending via Wi-Fi too. I don't know, I just give up.
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for me it's mixed bag. sometimes it works like a charm, just press Throw, shows available devices, chosing one of them send the file to the output (photo, video, music). and sometimes - like after disconnecting and trying to connect again few minutes later - it doesn't work at all.
The point i'm trying to make is why on earth is it on the device if the device doesn't use it? I can't understand why a company would allow a protocol to be included and then not give the ability to use it?
On the vast majority of phone all you do is pick a file and select share, then choose wifi direct and off it goes, no need to be connected to wifi, infact you wouldn't even need a sim card to do it.
Such a stupid thing to happen and a bit awkward when someone with a sammy device is showing off a feature and even though yours has it it doesn't work lol.
I found myself saying "Ok just download this app" Bit long winded isn't it? I mean click share and click wifi direct job done, what gives ?

SMS issues continue - AA is rubbish

Like so many others, I keep experiencing countless issues with AA informing me that it doesn't know how to send a text, that it's still learning of that it needs to gather more information. I'm on a Samsung S10 5G in a Kia Soul. First I tried a new cable. No help. I tried clearing the phone's cache. No help. Have tried multiple messaging apps. No help. (Currently using Pulse). Any other suggestions greatly appreciated.
How rubbish Rodney?
I don't understand your question. Its lack of consistency in doing things like simple sending/reading of SMS messages makes even the iPhone solution much more usable.
He is saying AA is crap and he is looking for a suitable working alternative.
I'm afraid I don't know how to do that. But I'm still learning *grin*
That's just it, I don't know. Are we stuck with it? Is there any app that can unify multiple apps and put them on the car's screen? I don't think so. I can't believe I'm saying this, but Apple's implementation of something is better than Google's.
In my truck not only does the factory head unit ask to read calls and text via Bluetooth but also via android auto. It could be possible that the two techs are competing and causing errors. One thing that may revel clue to or two is to park and open Matt log with your phone plugged in as you normally do and have someone send you texts and look for any errors.
mine420 said:
In my truck not only does the factory head unit ask to read calls and text via Bluetooth but also via android auto. It could be possible that the two techs are competing and causing errors. One thing that may revel clue to or two is to park and open Matt log with your phone plugged in as you normally do and have someone send you texts and look for any errors.
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Thanks! One question: What's Matt log? AA has also started saying something along the lines of, "Sure, but first let me get some more information" - around this point the voice generally fades out and I can't here anything else, but sometimes it also continues with - "select the prompt on your device" but there's never a prompt.
With my car it only works via the steering wheel controls when the phone is connected via the USB cable. I might have to see how it works with just OK Google.
I thought this one was fixed... but every time I've tried to send a text lately "OK Google text X person" ti gives me let me gather some more information... then nothing. Am I doing something wrong, or is texting through assistant on AA broken?
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I thought this one was fixed... but every time I've tried to send a text lately "OK Google text X person" ti gives me let me gather some more information... then nothing. Am I doing something wrong, or is texting through assistant on AA broken?
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mines gone back their doing this after the update about 2wks ago.
https://myaccount.google.com/devicecontacts
You should activate this option

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