Bluetooth file transfer fails when in standby - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

When trying to transfer a file from another phone to my Kaiser, if my phone is in standby, the sending phone can not connect and displays transfer failed.
It works fine when my phone is not in stand by and the display is lit up.
Three questions.
1. Is there a setting so the phone will accept incoming BT file transfers when in standby?
2. Is there a way to have the phone automatically accept the incoming file? I.E. Not have to select Yes to save?
3. Is there a way to change the default location that the file is saved to?
Thank you in advance.

rodentkj said:
When trying to transfer a file from another phone to my Kaiser, if my phone is in standby, the sending phone can not connect and displays transfer failed.
It works fine when my phone is not in stand by and the display is lit up.
Three questions.
1. Is there a setting so the phone will accept incoming BT file transfers when in standby?
2. Is there a way to have the phone automatically accept the incoming file? I.E. Not have to select Yes to save?
3. Is there a way to change the default location that the file is saved to?
Thank you in advance.
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Same here, I have to turn it on.. I find I don't have to unlock s2u2 or anything, but it does have to be on.
I think you can change the location in the Bluetooth settings, it's unchecked by default and set to \my documents\bluetooth share or such, I think if you check it and change it, it'll save it to a different place than just \my documents

When the phone is in stand-by its asleep.
Something has to wake it. And that's usually a button press or receiving a call.
To allow Bluetooth to wake the phone the Bluetooth Radio would have to be left on all the time. Depleting your battery much to fast.

JimmyMcGee said:
When the phone is in stand-by its asleep.
Something has to wake it. And that's usually a button press or receiving a call.
To allow Bluetooth to wake the phone the Bluetooth Radio would have to be left on all the time. Depleting your battery much to fast.
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I disagree. The Bluetooth radio is indeed on all the time. This is proven by establishing a Bluetooth Dial-Up networking connection to the the phone while it is in standby. Which wakes-up my phone. In addition, one can query the available services of the phone when in standby. Thus the reason I ask why the phone needs to be out of stand by when sending a file to it.
Other BT services can be used or established when in standby mode. Why can't file transfer?

see this thread. The program says that it will allow you to set it to auto-accept bluetooth transfers as well as customize the save location. i do not see anything about when the device is in standby. do read my post at the end of the thread though before install the application. latest version here.

Thanks for the program. But I'll pass. Too many issues as I read it.

i htink all tytns do this as mine does. and so did my universal i think its a security thing so people cant hack the phone while its asleep, (ie if someone wants to do something you screen has to be on so you can see whats happeneing

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Small app that turns on BT and WLAN after suspend?

OK, this ide was stolen from a guy at the norwegian forum www.windowsmobile.no: Can't somebody who knows what they're doing program a small app that can be set to turn on BT and WLAN whenever the unit is turned on? Then I'd be very happy, at least!
may be this tool can help?
http://oz.sciox.org/ozbt.html
Wow! At first glance it seems to work! I'll have to turn off the unit for a longer time and see if it still works. I'll know in the morning...it's been along night. Election night in Norway.
I think this does work but like Mastiff says I am going to leave off my SX66 for a bit.
If this does work, this needs to be added as a patch?
I am pretty sure this is working for my SX66.
I first manually turned off Wireless and Bluetooth. Then restarted my PDA, which both Wireless and Bluetooth where off when it was done booting. I then went into ozBT and changed Wireless/BT from Default On to Defaul Off.
I was then going to restart the PDA but before I could Wireless and BT popped on!
I also turned off my PDA for a bit and Bluetooth was off - then it turned it's self back on.
Nice!
Someone needs to invite this guy over here and get him on the staff!
Why would you want BT and Wifi turned on everytime you switched on your PPC? Wouldnt that kill the battery? Every time you soft reset, turn on to check email, etc. Can someone explain what this achieves?
Myself I do not want WiFi on but I do for Bluetooth, since I use a BT Headset all the time.
First of all this doesn't work very well at all for me. On my Qtek 9090 this has unforseen side effects for WiFi, so I have gone back on it. It doesn't log into my default network at once, like it does when I turn it on manually. Instead it either tries to log on to the other WiFi network I have in my house (don't ask), even though that's weaker and MAC blocked for the unit. And if it doesn't find that, it just stays on "searching". And even when searching it don't show the WiFi icon, it shows the GPRS icon all the time. So for my unit this is a dead end. If anybody else tries this and doesn't have problems, I will have to do a hard reset and see if it's some kind of third party program that creates this problem.
Second, I want them on like I always have had them on with my four last PPCs since I have a wireless network both in my house and in my car, and I control music, lights and a lot of other stuff in the house and music in the car with it. Besides when I'm driving I always use TomTom to warn me of speed cams. And I have charging in both my cars, on both my motorbikes and in my home office (I run a translating business from home). So I'm never far away from charging and never have problems with the battery, and finally I use WiFi a lot more than I use the phone part, with NetRemote controlling the house, and surfing.
where is the file
where is the program can be found.
http://oz.sciox.org/ozbt.html
But no my system it's trying to connect to the wrong network every time. If I turn on the WLAN manually I don't have that problem at all, it connects to the default. I'm starting to think that the program forces the driver to check for the default network to early, before the network card is ready, then gives up on that and start looking for other networks a few seconds later, which is when the network card really is ready to connect.

Flight Mode Question

I was on a trip yesterday and I noticed that when I turned on flight mode, it also turned off Bluetooth. I have a bluetooth GPS receiver that I use with my Alpline but wasn't able to in the plane because when I turned off my phone it also killed my Bluetooth.
:?: Is there a simple way to turn of JUST the phone radio, but leave the bluetooth up? My XDA II allowed me to turn off the phone's radio and leave bluetooth up. It just looks like bluetooth, WiFi and Phone have all just been lumped into Flight mode. Is there a system tweak or even a utility? I would be ok with either. Just found this annnoying. Thanks in advance for answering my question.
genghis said:
I was on a trip yesterday and I noticed that when I turned on flight mode, it also turned off Bluetooth. I have a bluetooth GPS receiver that I use with my Alpline but wasn't able to in the plane because when I turned off my phone it also killed my Bluetooth.
:?: Is there a simple way to turn of JUST the phone radio, but leave the bluetooth up? My XDA II allowed me to turn off the phone's radio and leave bluetooth up. It just looks like bluetooth, WiFi and Phone have all just been lumped into Flight mode. Is there a system tweak or even a utility? I would be ok with either. Just found this annnoying. Thanks in advance for answering my question.
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There's no way that I know to have flight mode on and still be able to use bluetooth, wifi or gprs on the XDAIIi.
I also know that you can on the XDAIIs.
Actually there is.
Check this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=36788&highlight=flight+mode
The interesting part is :
Code:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\FlightMode]
"IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
"WarningMsg"="Please turn Flight Mode off first"
Change "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000001 to "IsFMCheckEnable"=dword:00000000
It allows you to use WiFi and Bluetooth while in flight mode. I found about this only minutes ago, and I'm sure glad I did
Cheerio !
I'm pretty sure that on flights it is illegal to use any form of wireless transmission hence BT & WiFi turning off at the same time as GSM. This is because they are all in the microwave band and can allegedly interfere with aircraft instruments.
If all else fails, turn flight mode on, turn BT on, the phone part will ask for a PIN which you must enabled this, select cancel and the phone part will turn off again leaving the BT active.
Thank you Mr_Smoke!
That App Radio Off works GREAT! I knew there had to be a simple fix.
:arrow: Bluetooth interference with instruments debunked:
http://www.bluetooth.com/NR/rdonlyr...7E/0/Aircraft_Safety_Report_for_Bluetooth.pdf
:!: Good article where they tested a 727 and 747 with bluetooth devices. They state that both UHF and VHF had a VERY remote chance of interference, but that the threshold would drop off before the device could emit enough power to actually interfere. Communications devices on aircraft have all been shielded and tested to higher energy levels than a simple BT signal from a PDA could push out. The only cavet is that use is prohibited during critical phase of flight (take off and landing) which is when the airlines currently make you turn off your devices.
I love using a BT GPS receiver (I put it up to the window and close the window shade to hold it in place) with Pocket Earth.
http://www.bluepointstudios.com/www/?fuseaction=product.poe
Its a VERY sweet program to show you where you are, direction you are headed, speed, and estimated time to your arrival. The only thing I wish that program had was altitude information which I emailed them as a suggestion for their next revision to their software.
pug said:
If all else fails, turn flight mode on, turn BT on, the phone part will ask for a PIN which you must enabled this, select cancel and the phone part will turn off again leaving the BT active.
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You sure about this Pug? The message says that only emergency calls can be made until the pin is entered, that would suggest that the phone is still functional.
Or is this different to the message/routine at start up?
On a far more important note, I hear your looking at jumping ship to an Universal - what are we going to do without you? :wink:
Tom
No need to worry, the missus is having the Alpine for Tomtom etc. A bit of a waste know but it' too big for her for everyday use. I'll still be looking about here in the Alpine section, don't want to let my fans down now.

Dopod D810 randomly turning on

My bro and I both bought the above units and have upgraded to the GPS rom. Just wondering if anyone else has noticed the unit switches on by itself. We are both experiencing this problem but also have the same programs running. The button lock feature is set on.
That's right. My Trinity is alive, too ;-)
I'm using the dopod rom about one week and I noticed that today for the first time.
There's no application running in the background. It's still alive ;-)
I do not care about this problem.
Hi,
Any software you are running?
Best regards,
Gilbert
Today programs are as follows:
cLaunch
Today Agenda
Battery Pack / Program Bar
PPCProfiles
I will try and eliminate one by one to see if it is software related.
Anyone else using one of the programs and having the unit switch on by itself. This issue bothers me as I see its going to be a drain on the battery.
Activesync may be the culprit
Many PPC WM5 devices tend to turn themselves on. It is usually an Activesync setting that periodically turns on the device and tries to connect to a non existant server. Best bet is to set up a dummy server on Activesync on the PPC, then set the sync settings to Manual, then delete the dummy server.
Sorry if you already have done this, but it certainly solved the issue for me.
Camstech said:
Many PPC WM5 devices tend to turn themselves on. It is usually an Activesync setting that periodically turns on the device and tries to connect to a non existant server. Best bet is to set up a dummy server on Activesync on the PPC, then set the sync settings to Manual, then delete the dummy server.
Sorry if you already have done this, but it certainly solved the issue for me.
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Hey Camstech, could you please give me a detailed description of how to set this up?
Thanks
My phone seems to do this too, but from what I can see, it is because of bad 3G coverage and the phone has to roam to GSM and back. Only happens at work where I got bad coverage (2/4).
AFAIK this issue is common to ALL devices and all versions.
I understand that you DO NOT TURN THE PDA OFF (Holding the on/off button), just go to "standby". So there are many Apps that tend to "awake" rather than TURN ON your PDA. It's like Sleep mode vs Hybernate in Windows. Agenda or scheduled items may turn your PDA active, even SMS messages that don't fully arrive, phone reconnecting, GPRS or UMTS changing status, profiles that are set to change over time, incoming calls, etc.
I think this is not specific to a certain ROM but to the fact that you have a full time connected and running computer in your pocket....
Hope it helps.
Looking Glass said:
AFAIK this issue is common to ALL devices and all versions.
I understand that you DO NOT TURN THE PDA OFF (Holding the on/off button), just go to "standby". So there are many Apps that tend to "awake" rather than TURN ON your PDA. It's like Sleep mode vs Hybernate in Windows. Agenda or scheduled items may turn your PDA active, even SMS messages that don't fully arrive, phone reconnecting, GPRS or UMTS changing status, profiles that are set to change over time, incoming calls, etc.
I think this is not specific to a certain ROM but to the fact that you have a full time connected and running computer in your pocket....
Hope it helps.
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I would have to agree to a point, as I have noticed when PPCProfiles changes automatically to my car mode (bluetooth on) the pda turns on. So you are right that it's programs possibly turning it on but this never happened on my O2 mini (WM2003SE). I'm hoping a new ROM may fix this issue.
I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?
frigit said:
I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?
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Whoops!
Where can I find PPCProfiles. I dont seem to have that kind of settings in my original HTC P3600....
Very interesting.
saminegm said:
Whoops!
Where can I find PPCProfiles. I dont seem to have that kind of settings in my original HTC P3600....
Very interesting.
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You can find the program link below. I never had any issues when using this program on my O2 mini. It still works on my dopod d810 just that I have disabled the auto switch template.
ps the chrome template is the nicest
http://www.modaco.com/Latest_Version-t205779.html
Correction to my thinking it was PPC profiles. It is actually happening when the bletooth is turned on ( hence ppc profiles switching over to car mode - bluetooth). I disabled ppc profiles and turned on bluetooth and strangely enough the dopod kept turning on.
Is anyone else experiencing this problem when they have bluetooth on?
frigit said:
I have disabled the "auto switch template" on PPCProfiles which changes over to bluetooth at a certain time of the day and it appears to have stopped the pda turning on by itself. So far so good for 1 day. Curious if anyone else is using PPCProfiles and are experiencing this. Does anyone else use other phone profile programs with switching templates that does not turn on their pda by itself?
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Mine sometimes turns itself on when it automatically checks my email accounts, but not always. I wonder if it isn't the 3G/Edge switch that is explained earlier. My house is in a 3G fringe area. I believe it doesn't try and wake itself up when the Wifi is on. My Prophet never did this, it would only wake up for an alarm, call, or SMS.
The main issues are reduced battery life and if you have your phone in your pocket and it wakes up, buttons can be accidentally pressed before it goes back to sleep.

TyTN 2: Unsociable Bluetooth partner!

Having a Bluetooth problem that I couldn't find on searching the forum.
Tried to send a .cab file to another XDA user the other day. Devices found eachother and paired fine. I was then unable to send the file to her. Just get the message "failed".
She however was able to send a .doc file back to me with no problems. I then tried to resend that file to her, but no joy. Unable to send any files at all, regardless of format.
Tried setting up the pair from my side, and then from hers, but still no joy. After half an hour, she commented that my phone was very rude, taking stuff from others but not willing to share in return!
Have since discovered that it will send files via Bluetooth to PC, but not other mobile devices. Any ideas why not?
No one else has had this problem??
Are you using a rom that has beam disabled? If no, have you disabled it on your own? I believe beam needs to be fully functional in order to do this (or so I've heard).
I'm not speaking from personal experience as I always keep beam intact (and if it is disabled in the rom I flash, I re-enable it). In turn, I have no issues sending via BT. Might be worth a try for you.
Also, a common misconception is: "Why does the Kaiser have "Beam" if there is no IR?". Many are viewing this as an oversight on HTC's part. However, beam is not just for IR.
resist said:
Are you using a rom that has beam disabled? If no, have you disabled it on your own? I believe beam needs to be fully functional in order to do this (or so I've heard).
I'm not speaking from personal experience as I always keep beam intact (and if it is disabled in the rom I flash, I re-enable it). In turn, I have no issues sending via BT. Might be worth a try for you.
Also, a common misconception is: "Why does the Kaiser have "Beam" if there is no IR?". Many are viewing this as an oversight on HTC's part. However, beam is not just for IR.
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You need beam on... I hard reseted my device several times as I could send from PC/Tilt to Trinity but nothing to Tilt. Then I realized beam was off
I don't think "Beam" is off, as I am still able to send things across to my laptop, and from laptop to TyTN, without any problems (well, only problems linked to MS's crappy interpretation of Bluetooth - no problems from the TyTN end, I mean
EDIT: Actually, how do you check beam is on? If I go to Start>Settings>Connections (tab)>Beam, the only option I get is a check box to select "receive all incoming beams". What about outgoing beams. Am using stock Orange ROM.
was the option to allow bluetooth file transfers enabled also? it has to be enabled for the phone to accept incoming files
fisha21 said:
Having a Bluetooth problem that I couldn't find on searching the forum.
Tried to send a .cab file to another XDA user the other day. Devices found eachother and paired fine. I was then unable to send the file to her. Just get the message "failed".
She however was able to send a .doc file back to me with no problems. I then tried to resend that file to her, but no joy. Unable to send any files at all, regardless of format.
Tried setting up the pair from my side, and then from hers, but still no joy. After half an hour, she commented that my phone was very rude, taking stuff from others but not willing to share in return!
Have since discovered that it will send files via Bluetooth to PC, but not other mobile devices. Any ideas why not?
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You do not need to pair devices for file transfers. Delete the association on each device and if the receiving device is set to 'Discoverable' you will pick them up when you select 'Beam'
Also, some PDA devices have different levels of transfer security that is non-adjustable and conflicts, go to 'Settings'-'Connections'-'Bluetooth'-'Security' and un-check the box for passkey Authentication for 'Beam'
You still have the choice of accepting or rejecting the file but to avoid idiot 'spamming' on BT it is best to revert to non-discoverable when in public places.
dolbe said:
was the option to allow bluetooth file transfers enabled also? it has to be enabled for the phone to accept incoming files
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Under Start>Settings>Connections (tab)>Beam, the only entry is "receive all incoming beams". The rest of the page is blank. Certainly nothing about accepting incoming files.

Anyway to schedule disconnect 3G/GPRS Data connection?

Hi,
Don't know if anyone else is experiancing this but i have activesync push email active and set to "as items arrive" and my peak times set up. When the end of day peak time comes round the mail stops syncing which is by design and cool but the 3G/GPRS data conection stays active (small icon on the signal bars). I have searched around but found nothing, basically i want to schedule the data connection to disconnect at the end of the day, and actually kill the open 3G connection...
Any ideas...?
I've looked at a few bits of software but currently it seems that all thats on offer is disconnect after x mins of inactivity or just disconnect after x mins, this is not really what im after and also these settings kills the similtanious voice and data connection which i don't want either....
If not i may look at writing this myself....
Try commgr pro @ www.commmgrpro.com. It's a fantastic program.
RK
thanks for the suggestion, had another look around and this one is far the best and does exactly what i want it to do: (active sync been running allday/as items arrive via push email) stopping as per schedule in AS at 18:30 then at 18:35 kill/disconnect the gprs connection using this software via the device - #disconnect command, sweet
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?skschema/m_skschema.html
Hi _DrG_,
I totally agree with you about skschema . Its a great software that do just what i want, that is save my battery for example the night by deactivate the GSM (3G for Pushmail too).
Just a question: how do you deactivate only DataConnection but not GSM? Do you succeed in doing that? OR do you deactivate GSM so pushamil doesn't work ?
Thanks for your answer.
I'd use the reg file in this post I created earlier
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355742
Some of the more popular Profile Switchers ... like Phone Weaver (and probably PhoneAlarm) can do this.
For example I have a Night profile that turns on at 11:30pm that mutes the alert volume, lowers the phone ringer, dims the screen, and shuts off Push Mail.
At 5:30am the Day profile kicks in and turns everything back on.
From a communications standpoint PhoneWeaver can control Wifi, Bluetooth, Phone Radio, Push email, Default Internet Connection, and the cellular data connection.
check it out.
I also use PhoneWeaver to do this - great little app which also puts my phone onto vibrate during meetings etc.
Media Net Disconnect Program
Hello, I found these two programs to manually connect and disconnect from your network. I love the DataConnector program because it only requires you to launch the program and it takes care of the rest. The DataDisconnect, on the other hand, requires you to launch the program, select the network you want to disconnect, then press disconnect. I am using WisbarAdvanceDesktop2 and would like to be able to write a script that will launch dataconnector, update the weather (or whatever else), and then launch datadisconnect. I am hoping that someone here knows of a hands-off program that only requires the single tap of the execution file to disconnect from the network, or who could hack the datadisconnect program and make it hands-off.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
khoury4
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khoury4 said:
Hello, I found these two programs to manually connect and disconnect from your network. I love the DataConnector program because it only requires you to launch the program and it takes care of the rest. The DataDisconnect, on the other hand, requires you to launch the program, select the network you want to disconnect, then press disconnect. I am using WisbarAdvanceDesktop2 and would like to be able to write a script that will launch dataconnector, update the weather (or whatever else), and then launch datadisconnect. I am hoping that someone here knows of a hands-off program that only requires the single tap of the execution file to disconnect from the network, or who could hack the datadisconnect program and make it hands-off.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
khoury4
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Hi,
maby an app i use it's exactly what you are looking for. With this app you can schedule everything about your connection: it allows you at what time your mobile data/wifi/flight mode must be turned on/off.
The name of the app is connection commander
Hope this help

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