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Internal GPS and Google Maps

Hi all,
I have successfully unlocked and flashed my phone with the HTC Rom together with the french (newer) radio ROM. The problem I am having is that Google Maps cant connect to the internal GPS. I have set the port to com 1 and have manually set this in google maps too but this (same as automatic) doesnt seem to work. Has anyone tried this and/or got it to work ? If yes, what settings did you use?
sorry, this should have belonged into the normal kaiser forum not the upgrading one... admins please move thanks !!!!

I also had some trouble initially getting Google maps to display GPS info. First of all, I'd set the Track Location settings back to Automatic/Windows Managed. Next, make sure you're in a location that can receive a decent GPS signal and stand still.... I'm usually able to acquire a signal within 10-20 seconds. To know whether or not the GPS receiver has in fact kicked on, watch the indicator light on the upper right side. It should blink blue-orange-blue-orange over and over indicating that the GPS is active.

pencilcase said:
Hi all,
I have successfully unlocked and flashed my phone with the HTC Rom together with the french (newer) radio ROM. The problem I am having is that Google Maps cant connect to the internal GPS. I have set the port to com 1 and have manually set this in google maps too but this (same as automatic) doesnt seem to work. Has anyone tried this and/or got it to work ? If yes, what settings did you use?
sorry, this should have belonged into the normal kaiser forum not the upgrading one... admins please move thanks !!!!
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Three things. First try the search button - This question has been asked God knows bow many times and answered as many.
Second by changing the com port on your GPS you may have necessitated a hard reset - there is a posting here and on modaco that says playing with the com ports screws the GPS till hard reset. (use search to find it here)
Three - if thats not the case then its a know issue with google maps - you have to start another GPS program and aquire a fix that way - then google maps will work fine. Google doesnt allow enough time for a fix itself.

You will also find that it's Com 4, NOT Com1

Tilt could not install tomtom 6.03 navigator

i have problem with tilt gps with tomtom.
first, it not allow me to install the last version of tomtom navigator 6.032 Build8351. tilt said the rom need to be updated.
second, i isntalled the lower version 6.030 (8320), ti could not find any gps signal, i set as other meta receiver, but could not get any.
I got tomtom us map 675, total 1.4g in card but could not use it, so headache, could any one help me here? thank you

What's ROM that you are trying install it to? Where do you get the TT 6.0.32 cab file?
I've installed TT 6.0.32 into 3 ROMs e.g. Tilt Orginial, Helmi Tilt AKU 0.7.0, and Dutty Hybrid. Simply works as it should. BTW, don't mess up with External GPS application, or you may have to hard reset the Kaiser to start over.
You can always search in this forum, I see at least 2 threads mention how to make TT6 works on Tilt/Kaiser. For example, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330235.

thanks
i think i got the tomtom from other site said the cab file was derived from HTC oem cd. maybe this is the reason?
i think you are right, there is no build in gps to choose.

Click on the link on my post above, download the 6.0.32.
Uninstall the old version, soft reset, install the cab file you've download. Try it. If you're living close to my area (address above), just PM, I can help you directly.
Good luck.

really appreciate, i am so afraid of your address, do you work at white house?
I download the new version for tomtom, foudn there is one more function bulid-in receiver, chose that one, but still could not get it. It keeps saying that NO VALID GPS SINGAL. I really dont understand why it happens.
If you have same machine, could you write down step by step and let me try? thank you.

He's just one of my neighborhoods.
1, backup your device. Sprite Backup trial is good enough if you don't have the full. Then Hard reset*.
2, Install the cab file which you should download from the link http://www.sendspace.com/file/9379xf.
3, Follow on screen instruction to install. Tap on the box located on the bottom right corner, then tap on the right side where you suppose to see the signal indicator bars. Choose configure, pick "Built-in ..."
4, Go to open, clear view sky area wait ~ 3 min for the satellite fix (and your luck.) If your luck doesn't come, perform a soft reset couple times. [I did twice, suddenly, my luck came]
5, Install everything fresh, otherwise, just go back by the handy backup file.
* I did mention hard reset here, because I messed up with the settings in external GPS applications when I couldn't get the valid signal by the time I tried to pair the Tilt with a BT-359 GPS receiver which I used successfully on Treo and 8525. I had to use Treo + BT-359 as the references in order to make sure I get the valid signal, because the receiver can't "see" a single satellite, sometimes!

What is wrong with the freaking GPS?!

Hi guys!
Im freaking out! I have a Dutch MDA Vario3 and I just cant seem to get the GPS to work. Tomtom can find the intern gps but no signal! I waited for about an hour today and yesterday it didnt work also..somebody can help me out? I use tomtom 6.032
help me out will yah...

try using the gps test first or quickgps before tomtom.

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try using the gps test first or quickgps before tomtom.
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I did quickgps for about ten times!
gps test?
thx for your reply

Were you indoors? Did you move to a different location? You might want to test it with an external gps receiver or try a standalone gps unit (if you can borrow one). Try and find something that is more sensitive than the Kaiser, and, in the same location, see if you can get a signal.
My point is, you might just be in a bad spot. This happens to me at work all the time, it never picks up a signal, even after an hour of searching.

you must set the right com ports up
find out which port gps is on ie. usually com7
go into config (tomtom) annd then guide the tomtom to com7
it will work took me a couple of days to work it out then seemed so obvious

The above advice is all pretty good. If this is the first time you have used tomtom then it can take a good while.
I am assuming tomtom shows the message "no valid GPS signal" after showing briefly the message "No GPS device". If so this is good. It means your com ports are set correctly.
There are two things to be sure of though:
1.
You have aclear view of the sky - especially on the first occassion you get a fix.
2.
Make sure you have a suitable map in the correct location. Obviously getting a fix when there is no map or the map is in the wrong directory will not succeed.
Did quick GPS work and give you a "valid until" date?
GPS test is a nice simple app that will show you the port number you are on so you can make sure tomtom is using the same one. BUT if tomtom only fails at the no valid signal stage then I think your ports are fine.
Finally, some fatal problems can occur if you have changed entries in the "external GPS" settings. This might (according to some folk) require a hard reset to correct. But try the above first.
Mike

Check this thread first..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330412
Try GPSViewer and select the port settings manually and choose "Open GPS".
You should see some som action through GPS strings in the Setup page.
Then try with TomTom or Google Maps.
I never had issues with TomTom, but google map was having hard time initializing. But after using GPSViewer, it works pretty neat and quick!

arunprakashr said:
Check this thread first..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330412
Try GPSViewer and select the port settings manually and choose "Open GPS".
You should see some som action through GPS strings in the Setup page.
Then try with TomTom or Google Maps.
I never had issues with TomTom, but google map was having hard time initializing. But after using GPSViewer, it works pretty neat and quick!
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It tests all com-ports,but gpsviewer cant find anything..

While it is true that you can screw yourself if you mess with the external GPS settings, you might not have to hard reset. Check the Kaiser Wiki; all the way at the bottom, you'll find links to the registry settings for the internal GPS. If you follow those steps, and set your TomTom to Other NMEA Receiver, you'll be fine no matter what you did with the external settings.

mikechannon said:
The above advice is all pretty good. If this is the first time you have used tomtom then it can take a good while.
I am assuming tomtom shows the message "no valid GPS signal" after showing briefly the message "No GPS device". If so this is good. It means your com ports are set correctly.
There are two things to be sure of though:
1.
You have aclear view of the sky - especially on the first occassion you get a fix.
2.
Make sure you have a suitable map in the correct location. Obviously getting a fix when there is no map or the map is in the wrong directory will not succeed.
Did quick GPS work and give you a "valid until" date?
GPS test is a nice simple app that will show you the port number you are on so you can make sure tomtom is using the same one. BUT if tomtom only fails at the no valid signal stage then I think your ports are fine.
Finally, some fatal problems can occur if you have changed entries in the "external GPS" settings. This might (according to some folk) require a hard reset to correct. But try the above first.
Mike
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I have the phone since yesterday! All settings are ok! I first had t-mobile ROM on my phone, flashed it over with a dumpped original dutch htc rom. (gps also didnt work at the original rom that was on it from t-mobile)
I live in de centre of the city. No clouds or anything..
Where can I find gps test? I tried GPS Viewer, didnt work at all, cant seem to find any ports. I did hard reset and still..it doesnt work..

Bram87 said:
I have the phone since yesterday! All settings are ok! I first had t-mobile ROM on my phone, flashed it over with a dumpped original dutch htc rom. (gps also didnt work at the original rom that was on it from t-mobile)
I live in de centre of the city. No clouds or anything..
Where can I find gps test? I tried GPS Viewer, didnt work at all, cant seem to find any ports. I did hard reset and still..it doesnt work..
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GPS test here:
http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=24687&associateid=1224
It would help us to know the following:
1.
When tomtom is on does the amber led for GPS flash?
2
Does tomtom show "no valid GPS signal"?
3
Have you got a local map installed?
4
Did quick GPS download current data?
Mike

1.
When tomtom is on does the amber led for GPS flash?
Jep
2
Does tomtom show "no valid GPS signal"?
also correct
3
Have you got a local map installed?
uuh..west europe map..
4
Did quick GPS download current data?
it says after download "valid for six days and twentythree hours"
So I gues, yes
*thx Mike for helping me so far
Edit* gps test; shows "GPS is starting up"..(slow..)

Mmmm. Did GPS test show any bars in the end?
Mike

mikechannon said:
Mmmm. Did GPS test show any bars in the end?
Mike
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Hi mike..
It works..It took some time (alot) but..It works..Hope it keeps working!
Thank you and wish you a happy new year!

Bram87 said:
Hi mike..
It works..It took some time (alot) but..It works..Hope it keeps working!
Thank you and wish you a happy new year!
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Yep, first time around it can take a loooong time. After that it should be faster.
Happy New Year.
Mike

Locked GPS

Hi I have a T-Mobile Compact IV (HTC Diamond I believe) and my GPS has just stopped working. It comes with CoPilot LIve 7 Trial and has been working fine until I bought the licence code for the full version.
Now it says there is 'No GPS Signal' when I run CoPilot. I have tried QuickGPS and Google Maps (both pre installed like CoPilot) and neither of thoses apps work either!
I have read that the GPS chicp could be locked? Anybody came accross this problem before or have a solution to this. I have emailed T-Mobile, HTC and the makers of CoPilot. Seems like nobody is interested in helping now that I have shelled out for a licence code.
Any help here would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

GPS chip cannot be "locked" out...forget that
There are a number of great threads relating to GPS issues exactly as you described (too numerous to list though...) suggest you have a quick search and move on from there...
I expect that you need to clear the embedded data (use HTC GPS Tool, and clear memory) and then be patient for a first fix.......confident this will work for you

i'd also recomend GPS Tool, its availible here.
Just download the .cab file and run it on your MDACIV

Thanks for the reply guys. I have downloaded and tried the HTC GPS tool and it doesn't seem to find anything. All I get is the error 'Failed to send NMEA command'.
I have just downloaded Google Maps and tested that with the GPS setting and it just sits there saying 'Seeking GPS Satelites (0)...' for ages.
I have also tried lots of the other suggestions in this forum but with no luck. Its almost as if there is no GPS built into this. The only things I have hope for is to hard reset the MDA or to update the ROM/Radio. Tried using the reg edit tool and adv config tool to see if any settings are causing a problem? Could it be the update to comapct farmework 3.5 or the settings for the IP phone?
Unfortunatly I have followed the instructions to hard reset the MDA but it just seems to soft reset, plus what will happen to my installation of CoPilot as it was pre-installed with the phone. I have a backup done with the Sprite Backup tool that came with the phone but will this restore programs if the device is reset?
And the ROMs are all for the HTC Diamond. Plus not too sure about invalidating my warranty with an update.
Really starting to think the GPS has just broke on me. Which is a bit odd since it hasn't been dropped or damaged etc...
Starting to get a bit frustrated as there doesn't seem to be a conclusive answer any where on the web and no supplier is getting back to me (wonder why...?)

OK...it lookslike you have a few more options now....
First thing is make a backup! Do this now and save it to Internal Storage.
A Hard reset appears to be the next option...its fiddely to organise, but it sounds like you need to get a "fresh" install. I would then only install the HTC GPS Tool and then try and find your GPS using standard setting as installed. If it cannot be found then perhaps you have an issue with the unit itself.
As for your co-pilot, surely you have the install cab or disc that came with the unit?
Right now you need to know:
i) Are just the settings screwed up, or
ii) Do I have a faulty unit.....
If it faulty you want to keep the original ROM for warranty purpose (so don't flash that........yet!)

Hold on...
GPS is always OFF until the phone comes out of 'flight mode'. You can do this by activating at least one of the following (phone, BT, Wifi).
Some applications like Igo8 are able to access the GPS whilst the phone is in flight mode.
Other apps such as TT, GPS Tuner, BeelineGPS etc need the non-flight mode.
This can be set in the Comms Manager.

topspeclt said:
Hold on...
GPS is always OFF until the phone comes out of 'flight mode'. You can do this by activating at least one of the following (phone, BT, Wifi).
Other apps such as TT, GPS Tuner, BeelineGPS etc need the non-flight mode.
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Not as far I am aware. I can and have run TT6 with flight mode engaged - on a BA flight. It starts by saying flight mode engaged at the bottom left, but still finds the satelites (as long as you are next to the window).
And yes BA allow the use of GPS for flights except at take off and landing.

Thanks everyone for the replies.
But I took the plunge and dislocated my fingers to perform a hard reset. After the hard reset the phone automatically re-installed all the supplied apps (CoPilot, Google Maps etc...) and it worked fine.
Tried lots of suggestions and tools but this is the only thiong that has worked. I have read lots of conflicting posts about how the GPS can lock due to several apps attempting to use it while other say its due to the phone not having it enabled as default. And then others say it can't lock!
At the end of the day the GPS worked in the morning and then stopped in the afternoon after no fiddling with the phone. This makes me feel like it could happen again.
As I write this I have just had my first manufacturer response. Its from the makers of CoPilot. They have posted the following :
Please go to Start Menu | Settings | System / GPS
• At the bottom left hand corner of the screen please select Programs and change the GPS program port to COM 4.
• Select Hardware at the bottom left hand corner of the screen and make sure the GPS hardware port to be set to COM 3 and the Baud Rate to 4800.
• Finally at the bottom left hand corner of the screen Select Access and check if the box Manage GPS automatically is ticked.
• Also, please go into START | SETTINGS | CONNECTIONS | BEAM
Please ensure that the beam is unticked as this affects the GPS pickup.
• Also ensure that you do not have any other GPS program installed on the device as this could also affect the GPS setup in Copilot.
2. Launch CoPilot Live on your Pocket PC (Tap on ""Start --> CoPilot Live"")
a. In the ""GPS"" menu, tap ""Options"" and tap on ""Setup GPS""
b. Tap on ""Manual"" and in the ""GPS Com Port and Baud Rate"" section, select the COM port and Baud Rate as provided by your GPS manufacturer (Com 4, Baud Rate: 9600). If you do not know this information, tap the ""Automatic"", then tap ""Next"" and CoPilot Live will search all available ports for your receiver. Note: If you are using a Bluetooth GPS receiver, your Pocket PC's Bluetooth Manager must be aware of the device before CoPilot Live can detect it.
c. Tap ""OK"" at the top of the screen to close the GPS Options. Note: CoPilot will remember the GPS settings on exit, so you will only need to configure your GPS on the first use.
Would like to have tried this but I spent quite a bit of time messing with COM port setting et all... and nothing seemed to work. Ho hum.
Anyhoo, again thanks everybody from your help.
Andrew

How to activate the internal GPS?

Hi,
I have just purchased the HTC TD2 from Dubai airport on my way to work. I'm still using the stock wm6.1 ROM. I have installed Garmin GMXT on to the TD2 but can not get the internal GPS to be located, is there a trick to it?
FYI I have been using an O2 Atom Life for many years now and GMXT was working on that ok with external BT receiver. I have the SW.UNL file on my device but how to make it work?
Any advise on the best ROM to upgrade to on this site?
Thanx and regards

I had to set up gps software manually. I use this settings for Smartmaps: Com port 4 and baud rate 4800.

Thanx PRDIC,
Where did you set those Com ports? I see in the Settings/system there is a icon for External GPS and that has tabs for "Programs" and another for "Hardware" is this anything to do with hte COM port used by the internal GPS Reciever?
The Garmin GMXT software does not allow the user to define the com ports unless they are set in the "External GPS" application that I mentioned above. I think it should be automatic connection but I'm not seeing the internal GPS. If i use my BT Reciever then i can detect it as BT reciever and connect.

well, it look like a your GMXT (Garmin Mobile XT) didn't register or ativate correctly. please try to ativate using code come with a package when you brought GMXT. if GMXT is not register. it will not show the internal GPS hardware port (useualy port-4).
with un-registered GMXT, it will show only "External GPS" (bluetooth)or "intermideate GPS" which it is a software base between real hardware.
Hope my explained could help. moreover, GMXT atvivate have many process step. just becareful when do it.
sorry for my english :-[

I've never used garmin software, so I can't help you with this

guide144 said:
well, it look like a your GMXT (Garmin Mobile XT) didn't register or ativate correctly. please try to ativate using code come with a package when you brought GMXT. if GMXT is not register. it will not show the internal GPS hardware port (useualy port-4).
with un-registered GMXT, it will show only "External GPS" (bluetooth)or "intermideate GPS" which it is a software base between real hardware.
Hope my explained could help. moreover, GMXT atvivate have many process step. just becareful when do it.
sorry for my english :-[
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Thanx everyone,
I fixed the problem, it was due to a corupted file which occured when i installed the VOIP activation CAB for VOIP calling. The fix was found here and quoted below:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402228&page=8
I had the same issue after installing the VOIP CAB on my Touch HD my GPS stopped completely (no GPS found) and found a fix for it in the orig. Thread about the VOIP CAB, where you have to rename a file and reset so it gets fresh created.
After this my GPS was running again.
The solution was "To solve the problem just rename file /windows/dnsapi.dll to for example dnsapi.dll_bck and make soft reset or turn off and on your device.
There will be created a new file with the same name and you can delete the old renamed one. Then the GPS working properly as well as VoIP.