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Hello people,
I rarely see a burnt in (like old crt screens) image on the bottom of the screen.
For example when I change the volume, the softkey labels of the today screen are still visible, along with a white line. Most times it is normal so I don't worry very much but I'm wondering if someone else has the same issue.
I've tried many versions of hardspl (because they seem to be connected with some screen issues) but the problem still exists.
Hi i have the exact same issue, i put a post up a month ago not had any response on it. I have a MDA compact IV, not updated any ROM or HARDSPL yet. I was tempted to update to see if the problem could be rectified.
Have you update to a cooked rom? I might send mine back to have it fixed if its a screen issue.
Mine only holds the "burnt in image" along the right of the screen from top right corner to bottom right corner around 3cm in.
Also i have noticed the "Burnt in image" seems to get stronger when the device heats up. If i use GPS or 3G, this seems to affect the screen.
My background is black which makes it really noticable, i think if i stick with the orginal t-mobile white background it's probably not that noticable.
mmm
Perhaps the units you bought where like demo units. Those units that are displayed all day long turned for people to look at them. I have read in another forum that perhaps that distortion is caused by extreme temperatures, cold or heat.
well i'm still trying to figure out what is causing it, as I notice it only once in maybe a week. Maybe temperature is the most probable cause. For me I notice the defect only in gray background (e.g. when changing volume or launching opera).
My unit was from the first batch from expansys (origin htc asia)
It's possible your handsets have screens which are somehow susceptible to heat damage from inside the phone. This would be no fault of your own, but a manufacturing defect.
I'd suggest returning the phone to the retailer, HTC or the operator depending on your situation.
However, if you're using the phone in extreme conditions, ie low temperatures, you may very well find the LCD slow to refresh or have some level of image retention.
Let us know the outcome
i also have a ripple effect when pressing, but its more apparent with black. its also a first gen model, so i think ima make a phone call to htc. maybe a can get a new device.
for the burn in, try this:
1. Go to power settings, deselect automatic backlight management.
2. Pull up backlight level to maximum.
3. Reselect automatic.
You should be ok!
If not, faulty device!
tnyynt said:
for the burn in, try this:
1. Go to power settings, deselect automatic backlight management.
2. Pull up backlight level to maximum.
3. Reselect automatic.
You should be ok!
If not, faulty device!
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Ok I will try this although I can't see how the backlight can affect the screen. In order to repair it with warranty I would have to send it to expansys uk (because it is not a European device) and I bet it would take long
Have you tried removing the battery for a while - some lcd screens can get the memory effect, and cutting power for long enough normally cures it.
My phone actually holds the previous menu under the current menu.
Example i'm on the home screen, goto messages and send a text using the qwerty keyboard. Back to the home screen, i can see a very faint image of the qwerty keyboard under the Programs hotkey.
When the PIN lock comes on the bottom right is "MENU", i can see a faint "programs" letters icon underneath it.
I will try and leave the battery out for a few hours, if not a call to t-mobile!
ok, i have the same "problem". even after a soft-reset the words CommManager
and Programs are still slightly visible in the boot screen.
but: as mentioned above, turning the device off for a couple of minutes cures
this, and the screen is dark as hell again!
really seems to be some kind of memory effect!
regards,
markus
Left the battery out for a few hours, made no difference. I guess is not a software problem.
will be giving t-mobile a call tomorrow!
:-(
I guess every htc device must have a flaw...
when it does it again I will try to take a photo of it and post it here
Hi same problem here.... See my post below..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=417629
I thought it was due to Spb Shell but no, now i'm happy i'm not alone..
But what solution for this??
I'm not worried about the burn in looks.. My worry is whether this behavior of the screen will progressively damge the screen???
I have been using the Diamond at full backlight.. Last few days i've put it down to minimum, but the problem persists!!!
ok, I think it happens when it overheats.
So that is why it is caused when charging.
wtf?
No its not due to overheating, coz LCD screen are supposed to tolerate temperatures upto 80degree C... Dont know if its related to electro magnetic radiation, may be looks like it's more after i use the network...
Hi another mate has this problem Andrew...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2684406&posted=1#post2684406
Hi,
i sent my phone back to T-Mobile hoping they will fix this issue with the screen. Just received the phone and it looks like they have done nothing On the job sheet all it says is "Software updated"? The problem is still there!
I dont think there is a fix as such, it looks like this is the cause
http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/image-sticking.html
I'll try if i can get a completely white background and leave the screen on for a while at the brighest setting, if this will erase the screen issue?
the problem appears more often now on my device....
It does not have to do with heat afterall.
Why would the image "stick" when the phone is off? I mean that many times I see the symptoms right after I switch the phone on.
Do we have any screen experts in the forum?
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Hi,
i sent my phone back to T-Mobile hoping they will fix this issue with the screen. Just received the phone and it looks like they have done nothing On the job sheet all it says is "Software updated"? The problem is still there!
I dont think there is a fix as such, it looks like this is the cause
http://www.practical-home-theater-guide.com/image-sticking.html
I'll try if i can get a completely white background and leave the screen on for a while at the brighest setting, if this will erase the screen issue?
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After calling up T-Mobile and made a complaint saying nothing had been done by the repair centre, they gave up and agreed to give me a handset replacement. Received the handset today, looks like a refurbed one? Anyway my problem is now fixed. Left the phone on a while and it got pretty hot, no ghosting on the screen
The restore was a pain, Wifi didn;t work, the HSDPA didn;t work. But after a few hours messing around it's all up and running so far.
My camera led light just started acting funny an hour ago. It turned on and it si now impossible to turn the damn thing off. It still stays on when the phone is turned off. I've tried removing the battery and then put it back again. As soon as the battery is in, the light turns on again. I've tried a soft reset and ultimately a hard reset. Light remains on.
Don't want to have to go to Sony for this because I bought the phone off the bay a month ago and therefore don't have a receipt so it won't fall under warranty. Anyone have any ideas? What a pisser.
hi,same here
I think its a hardware issue where the cables have been short and are giving direct connection. I dont know if this will work but try to tap the phone a little hard on your palm. If its just a loose contact it might get sorted. This is a very crude way.
You guys want help or just venting air?
Great story.... so ?!
If you guys want venting off air, that was it! If you are looking for help however, then KINDLY state some info, like:
what the frak is the phone model, firmware, recently flashed, if so to what. Branded or unbranded, built date, etc.!
After that, perhaps a few answers can be expected
MichaeltheImage: I doubt that in this case this had anything to do with software because of the fact that it remained on after a boot or when the phone is off.
Moleculez: Yesterday it ended up fading by itself after 2 or 3 hours. This morning it started again as I removed the battery. Tapped the led side of the phone on my palm a few times; and it worked. Thanks.
"Anything mechanical, give it a good bash."
Incase someone is still looking for a way to fix this problem:
I managed to pry the plastic covering off of the camera lense/ LED with a needle.
All it took was a slight nudge on the LED cluster to reposition it. It was situated slightly off to one side, causing the short circuit which lead to the LED being constantly lit.
Problem is, in my initial frustration I poked the LED and broke it which, as a result of the short, meant that although the LED was no longer lit it still drew power from the battery.
The only way I know that the later fix worked was by using a power consumption monitoring tool to verify that the LED (and the short circuit) was no longer drawing power.
Awesome.
Hi, I recently was using my nexus one and the green trackball light just automatically turned on (solid color not flashing). I cannot get it to turn of no matter what I do. I have already tried wiping, reflashing, battery pull, and hard reset. The green light turns on immediately after powering on the device. Any help is much appreciated.
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Very strange I've herd of a red light that wouldn't turn out it's sign of a hardware problem (water damage I think) but never a green one
What were you doing when it went on??
I have also heard of this problem (or at least I vaguely remember something like this). On the one I remember, it turns out that some piece got bent and came into contact with something from the trackball. It required taking the phone apart to remedy it.
I had a similar thing a few times: After confirming green notification light (by GoSMS), it has been glowing further at very low brightness. It only went off when disabling TB Notification in setup menu.
Last night the green light started flickering while charging, but this morning it was solid green again... it really is annoying and is a battery drain.
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I am going to assume you have cm7 or cm something. If you go into the trackball notification menu when you can choose color and what not, select the application in where you picked green. Then hit "flash test" and hit "ok" when the light is off.
It got stuck for me too and this is how I fixed it.
Paintball, did you fix this? Mine also displays green 24x7 and causes serious battery drain. My daughter drooled quite a bit on the dock charging connectors, so I suspect something is shorted, but it's also been dropped (same person responsible for the drooling), so something could be bent as well. FWIW, I have no trackball alerts set.
Stuck in the green as well...
I have the exact same problem! In this case my girlfriend drowned the phone with lemon gatorade on her beach purse our last vacation a week ago, so I believe that's the problem: something is wrong inside the N1. I'm going to a phone repair shop see what can be done.
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Paintball, did you fix this? Mine also displays green 24x7 and causes serious battery drain. My daughter drooled quite a bit on the dock charging connectors, so I suspect something is shorted, but it's also been dropped (same person responsible for the drooling), so something could be bent as well. FWIW, I have no trackball alerts set.
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So, one year ago, my C6602 felt on the water, for my bad, some of the waterproof doors were open. At first, it didnt damaged it at all, so i managed to turn it off, and wait cause we have a person who fix eletronic things. But, i was stupid. Even knowing that this would damage the phone, i did turned it on again...at first it were ok. One hour later, touch stoped working, couldnt turn the alarm clock off...then the screen goes off as well. Well, i did take it to stores who are specialized in cellphones and all of them told my cell was dead. Today, i decided to open it to see what the **** was happening, it turns out that i couldnt figure nothing out by myself, buttt i put the charger and got a red light. I though, its dead already, nothing bad will happen heeh. I let it for 4hrs~ charging, pressed the on buttom, but nothing happened, oh, at first, when i charged it a little, when i press the on/off buttom it would gave me 3 red notifications blinking, but that time it didnt. Instead, it went to green, and i could manage to access the cellphone on the computer (internal memory), all my files were there. Also, when chargin, it first showed me a red light, followed by a yellow/blank light, and, therefore, a green.
There is any chances that the cellphone isn't dead? Its this sorta of protection of your data what happened? Or the screen is really broken (and, by changing it, it'll be back to normal)? Thanks.
It seems that phone is turning on, but displays nothing. It may be display fault, but may be display related pcb malfunction also.
Hi all,
Last weekend I tried to fix the GPS on my Xperia Z (C6603) - it couldn't lock any satellite and according to all tests it was a hardware problem. When I opened the back cover I saw that the GPS antenna wasn't securely attached anymore (thanks to the third party who replaced my screen last summer I guess). While I was at it, I also wanted to check the speaker since the volume is generally quite low. Doing so I had some difficulty getting the battery out but it didn't look like anything was damaged by it.
I fixed the GPS antenna and reassembled the phone, but now it won't boot anymore...
When I try to boot it the LED blinks red three times and then stops. Nothing more. It only seldomly responds to a cold reset (vol up + power for 10 sec.) but mostly not. When I connect it to the wall socket or laptop the LED burns red continuously.
When I opened the phone I still had about 70% battery left so that should be fine. Nevertheless I've had it on a charger overnight (LED continuously red) and tried the next morning without success.
What I have found is that the red LED indicates either a broken bootloader or a hardware fault. Since it occurred after I opened the phone I would assume the latter.
I have managed to do a repair through the PC Companion software but without result. I can still get the phone in fastboot (LED turns blue) connected to my laptop to flash. The screen doesn't turn on, though I'm not sure if it should? I'm also not sure if being able to connect in fastboot excludes hardware failure?
I haven't tried to root/flash because I first want to ask for some advice on a more systematic approach to fixing it. Also, tonight I will pick up a friend's Xperia Z with a broken screen for spare parts (same model, he got it one month later). So except for the screen I have working replacement parts. Besides the screen replacement (with original Sony parts) the phone was still in original state both in hard- and software.
I would really like to fix the phone since I liked it and I'm stuck to a SIM-only plan until December still. Third-party repair is out of the question because of costs; then I'd rather spend it on a new XZ5.
Any ideas on how I should approach this?
After some trial and error, I have managed to flash a stock ROM (.253) on it. No luck with that unfortunately. When I try to turn it on, there is a small vibration after a few seconds and that's it. Again the phone responds to a cold reset, but when I try to boot it after the LED blinks red three times again. That's all it does.
I would say the only thing to still try now is swapping the motherboard with the other phone, not? Or are there any other suggestions?
Well, I would assume that it is a hardware problem, especially taking in to the account that you touched components inside.
Even if we all know how phone work, and where are all components are, its not recommended to touch anything inside if you dont have steady hand and environment to make any repair(clean place, no humidity, clean hands).
One bad plugged connector can brick your phone. One time I even had problem on other phone with really small rust on one pin that I touched with finger(sweat from it+time+really crappy weather where I had to use it), so it show how actually fragile phones are.
But few questions, when you managed to flash rom, you get all that android logo when you are in flashmode, and it show everything(loading bar etc) on screen?
Im asking because first symptom of bad battery connection is deformed or totally dead screen.
When you fixed gps antenna(that black plastic on top near camera) you used any tool that could damage board? its near microUSB so its easy to mess those small pins and make short circuit.
The same with battery, you could try to squeeze/move it a bit to see if there is any changes in phone boot behavior(not to gentle way to check it but sometimes it show if there is a problem)
Before changing motherboard I would replace battery from your other phone(charged before that) and check all pins on connector and board near it if there is any problem.
But as I said it should be made really delicate and in appropriate conditions.
Sadly I cant really help with it beside that, and I hope your phone gonna stand up after that somehow :/
Thanks for the reply Akinaro. Indeed the conditions are not ideal. At least I have one of those repair tool kits with the small screwdrivers, plastic pick and plastic levers for the connectors. I'll also set a reminder to take some latex/nitril gloves from the lab for next time
But few questions, when you managed to flash rom, you get all that android logo when you are in flashmode, and it show everything(loading bar etc) on screen?
Im asking because first symptom of bad battery connection is deformed or totally dead screen.
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No, the screen is totally dead. No sign of life whatsoever.
When you fixed gps antenna(that black plastic on top near camera) you used any tool that could damage board? its near microUSB so its easy to mess those small pins and make short circuit.
The same with battery, you could try to squeeze/move it a bit to see if there is any changes in phone boot behavior(not to gentle way to check it but sometimes it show if there is a problem)
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Possibly. I have used both the screwdriver and the plastic tools, but fiddling everything back in was tricky. The battery was disconnected though so it shouldn't have short-circuited. I will try with moving around the battery. But the more I think of it, the more I start thinking that I screwed up the motherboard by touching something there.
Before changing motherboard I would replace battery from your other phone(charged before that) and check all pins on connector and board near it if there is any problem.
But as I said it should be made really delicate and in appropriate conditions.
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I have tried the other battery last night as well. I didn't charge it first though, I left it in my phone to charge overnight and tried to boot it this morning, without result.
So I've attempted to swap the motherboards. Good and bad news...
The good news is that the spare phone works with every combination of motherboard and battery, so neither of those is the culprit. The bad news: none of the combinations work on my own phone, even with swapping all the other hardware components (camera's, gps, antenna etc.).
On the other hand, by now the LED doesn't turn red anymore. The phone just stays completely off. I didn't have time to try and charge it for some time though, so I'm not sure if it's a good or a bad sign.
I fear that the main multiconnector running under the battery might be damaged when I took out the battery and antenna module the first time. That is the only component that I cannot swap for it is so integrated - it would mean swapping the screen to the spare-parts-phone and using that one.
Any ideas still before I should consider it a write-off completely?