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Frat.. My fully upgraded Tilt (Dutty Rom 6) got its USB port damaged while I accidentally poked the stylus in there instead of the reset hole.
...now it won't sync with my pc however does charge only when I plug in the dedicated wall charger into it. So, on visual inspection, I saw the 5 pins (thats how many they seem) with last two next to the reset hole "misaligned".
I've tried poking a needle and trying to straighten it back into place but didn't work and I gave up fearing further damage to the port.
basically, I called At&t and they are mailing me a replacement device but now I'm not sure if I would need to re-flash the original AT&T rom back before returning.... anyone have any experience in the returns field? The cust serv rep "read" me a disclaimer (felt like hearing my rights by a cop!) stating that if they find any liquid or other damage to the phone then I may be charged $497.00 for it as it would be considered as warranty voided.
So, no mention of any s/w changes in the disclaimer she read to me also resulting in the same. But I surely don't want to take a chance therefore am humbly asking for some input from someone who may have experience similar situation?!!
Reading the "Tilt re-flash due to not voiding warranty if having to return" sticky-thread's all 14 pages did not give me even a single post where anyone can confirm if at&t will indeed consider messing up with the s/w as voiding warranty.... unless ofcourse I'm blind..(has happened once in a while).
I've also searched on this and have not found any posts.. again, I'm mentioning this so that the mods and/or others won't burn me for not doing my homework.
Wouldnt it be easier to flash a stock rom from SD card than wait and see if they void your warranty?
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Wouldnt it be easier to flash a stock rom from SD card than wait and see if they void your warranty?
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Well.. I'm trying to avoid flashing the stock rom altogether. As I've noticed almost every 2nd post on the stock-rom-flashing-for-warranty sticky not having a smooth run while returning the phone to its original state.
besides.. what do you mean by "then wait and see if they void your warranty?"..
Thats exactly what I'm trying to avoid in the first place as once I mail the unit back I will have no control on the outcome unless ofcourse either someone confirms that not reverting back to the stock rom won't cause a $500 hole in my pocket or otherwise, in which case I'll have to re-flash it.
If you've flashed a different ROM then they will know and they will say you caused the damage and charge the full price for it.
they might charge you full price anyway because the usb port is damaged. it might just be easier to fix the port urself...
I know Pocket PC Techs can repair the connector in most cases:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
AWESOME!!
PsyOpWarlord said:
I know Pocket PC Techs can repair the connector in most cases:
http://www.pocketpctechs.com/main~u...T+Tilt+Sync+Connector+Replacement+Service.htm
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Thanks a million for the site. I had no idea that a service like that existed and that too specifically addressing my exact issue. I'm gonna keep it bookmarked for future.
Fortunately, I was able to stick a needle in one of the pins and push them up and then have it held there with a dab of super glue. So far, its working like a charm but if it ever fails again I'll go the above route.
This is awesome.. I was very concerned in having to receive the replacement unit as with experience of having used several pda phones over the years I've learned that the refurb units that the warranty replacement give you is got a good 50-50 chance of having some kind of hw or sw flaw.. so... I'm glad to have kept my phone.
Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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Hi tjenus,
You mean you brought the faulty tilt, together with the original accessories it came with, to the store and they replaced your set for a brand new, retail version, of the tilt?
What else was required, the receipt or anything?
Thanks!
Gerald
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Took mine right back to the ATT store for a damaged usb port, all they did was confirm it wouldn't read via the usb and exchanged it right there for a new one, i was told it was a 1 year replacement warranty on the phone, they didn't check a thing, give it a try, i have also exchanged one that was erased buy getting to close to a mag drill at work, although it was not a tilt they exchanged it without even batting an eye, thanks tjenus
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I call BS after being a AT-T customer for years I know for a fact they don't swap out phones even at corp... Stores they tell you to call in and have a warrenty replacment shipped to you. Thats just how it works UNLESS your withen the 14 day grace period then they would probably do it. The reason they do this according to AT-T is they don't have enough stock in each store to do swap outs. You best bet is to call AT-T and have them ship you a new one and flash abck to the origanl rom they don't check the SPL version what so ever they just look if it has water damage and any other visable signs of abuse.
I returned mine
I had this same thing happen. The USB failed to work after I dropped my phone. So seeing how I could not reflash it, I ran out all the power on it, until it had nothing....it would not even boot. With all the battery drained, I knew that even if they plugged it in, they would not see I had flashed the rom....though they could have used a new battery. I took it in, and told the local ATT reseller that the USB stopped working. It was within 30days of purchase. They took it back and exchanged it no questions asked. They didnt even test it. Now, i just wont drop my new one, lol.
Good luck.
Not entirely related, but for those who purchased an HTC TyTN II and try to have it repaired in the US, beware: it is not covered under warranty here. After just under 4-weeks I found the USB port was loose and would no longer take a charge. After more than 4-weeks in HTC America and after refusing to accept their assessment of "User Abuse" and the $300 mainboard repair cost, they finally shipped it back to me, mainboard replaced via Fedex Ground... according to several HTC America reps I spoke with - there have been numerous similar cases reported to them since the TyTN II debut two months ago. Perseverence may pay off -- although I should have known better, my next purchase won't be through a parallel importer.
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hah. did this too.. called at&t and had them warranty exchange it. i just bent it back around with the stylus enough that it would work so that could revert back so i could send it back. havent heard anything from them.. so im assuming there not gonna charge me
aquanaut88 said:
Not entirely related, but for those who purchased an HTC TyTN II and try to have it repaired in the US, beware: it is not covered under warranty here. After just under 4-weeks I found the USB port was loose and would no longer take a charge. After more than 4-weeks in HTC America and after refusing to accept their assessment of "User Abuse" and the $300 mainboard repair cost, they finally shipped it back to me, mainboard replaced via Fedex Ground... according to several HTC America reps I spoke with - there have been numerous similar cases reported to them since the TyTN II debut two months ago. Perseverence may pay off -- although I should have known better, my next purchase won't be through a parallel importer.
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i own a tytn 2 in the usa and got the same from htc. my usb got messed up a little on its own than i stuck the stencil in there and it barely worked(had to wiggle it) anyways i found a repair center but they didnt have parts. ordered the parts from ppc techs and they sent me a different connector. its the same one in the sprint mogul which i think is a better build. so they replaced it and everything is perfect with the charging now but they did something with my hinge. its off a little. can anyone point me in the right direction to take my phone apart so i can fiddle with the hinge? any help is greatly appreciated
Hi,
I just got a Tilt from craigslist. The phone came with the At&T box, but unfortunately I forgot to get the receipt. Now the USB port is broken and I want to see if I can return for warranty.
The phone still has the AT&T ROM and infact I havent unlocked it. So will this be a problem if I just say I dont have the receipt but the rest and returned it with the box?
Please help!!!
ramnan said:
Hi,
I just got a Tilt from craigslist. The phone came with the At&T box, but unfortunately I forgot to get the receipt. Now the USB port is broken and I want to see if I can return for warranty.
The phone still has the AT&T ROM and infact I havent unlocked it. So will this be a problem if I just say I dont have the receipt but the rest and returned it with the box?
Please help!!!
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Not unless you are the original one that bought it from AT-T they will say sorry buddy !! you could try but I would save my breath
Hi
I had the same Issue - but it was fixed inside warranty!
But I was runing "original" rom.
But the somehow made the "reset" button work strange now - So it will go back once more.
BR
Daniel
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ok so i went to a DSC today to exchange my tilt. I stated it was stuck in that "funky colored screen" (bootloader in which i purposefully stuck it in) to get a replacement. The real reason i needed it was the plastic seperator between the pins of the usb port broke off along with the 2 left pins.. yah so i should have had it replaced when it first started having problems syncing and charging but i wiggled it over and over until it broke so dont get on me sayting its my fault thats not the point lol...the point is they told me that they didnt have any tilts in stock and pretty much just put in a request to have one mailed to me (exchange by mail) and i send mine in and since it has that usb problem ill mostlikely get charged the $450 but i can glue that plastic piece back in and cover up the damage..my question is..in the dsc they only checked the water voiding pad and they would have replaced it right then and there so is the policy the same with both services..the fee for physical/water damage? like would they have read me a disclaimer in the center and taken my phone and had it fully inspected? I was under the impression that they just eyeball it there and give it the ok like they did and youre good..so i signed the paper and should get the replacement in the mail monday...should i just send the phone they sent back to them or do the techs at the center for mail exchanges just eyeball it as well? am i taking a big chance at getting screwed? or should i just try again at another DSC location that has devices in stock after i send the replacement back?..just looking for input
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ok so i went to a DSC today to exchange my tilt. I stated it was stuck in that "funky colored screen" (bootloader in which i purposefully stuck it in) to get a replacement. The real reason i needed it was the plastic seperator between the pins of the usb port broke off along with the 2 left pins.. yah so i should have had it replaced when it first started having problems syncing and charging but i wiggled it over and over until it broke so dont get on me sayting its my fault thats not the point lol...the point is they told me that they didnt have any tilts in stock and pretty much just put in a request to have one mailed to me (exchange by mail) and i send mine in and since it has that usb problem ill mostlikely get charged the $450 but i can glue that plastic piece back in and cover up the damage..my question is..in the dsc they only checked the water voiding pad and they would have replaced it right then and there so is the policy the same with both services..the fee for physical/water damage? like would they have read me a disclaimer in the center and taken my phone and had it fully inspected? I was under the impression that they just eyeball it there and give it the ok like they did and youre good..so i signed the paper and should get the replacement in the mail monday...should i just send the phone they sent back to them or do the techs at the center for mail exchanges just eyeball it as well? am i taking a big chance at getting screwed? or should i just try again at another DSC location that has devices in stock after i send the replacement back?..just looking for input
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Here is a brilliant idea BE HONEST
Honesty may lose him $450 though (that is a lot of money for some of us).
Here's an idea, try using a return key every once in a while
did you miss where i said dont get on me about this? lol i just want input and facts
oh and i WAS honest over the phone before i put in a claim and went to the DSC and stated that HTC had changed the usb ports from pins to contacts but they have no such thing in their files nor reports of these usb ports having problems which as you can see all over this forum the first generation of usb ports on the kaiser SUCK hence the reason they were replaced..therefore it would be considered physical damage so im screwed for being honest even though its HTC's fault..
Ok, wanna know why i said be honest.
-return key- f.u.
I if you know my job postioin with AT&T you can take this info to be very truthfull. If they see ANY damage to the phone you WILL be billed. If the person from AT&T does not notice the damage, then when it gets sent back to HTC and they see damage, they will backcharge att. Then guess what? you get the charge. That is why i said be honest. I was not being a smart ass.
It used to be nobody really cared, but now you will get caught. In all seriousness i was looking out for you. But what the hell sent it back and test your luck.
But be honest and tell them it is a known problem and back up your case with printouts of the known broblem. I think you will be suprised how well they will accomodate you.
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Honesty may lose him $450 though (that is a lot of money for some of us).
Here's an idea, try using a return key every once in a while
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so should i bring it back to the dsc and explain to them or call the phone center. . and i wasnt trying to be a jerk. . you didnt have to say f.u. i appreciate your advice
ok well i called an explained myself and they said no matter what you have if the port is damaged its damaged and out of warranty...yay im screwed lol
The f.u. was not directed at you.
Call back and speak to a supervisor, I am aware of the problem and so are certain techs and warranty reps at att. Call and speak to a supervisor. if that gets you nothing than call cust care and complain.
warranty 800-801-1101
cust care 800-331-0500
even call data device support (THEY KNOW ABOUT IT)
dont have the number.
thnks alot for the help i really appreciate it...
yah i spoke with data device support, they transferred me to them..ive actually spoken to them in the past for this issue as it happened a while back and i just dealt with the no syncing but i had to finally go back to warranty exchange because i finally broke the top left pin (+5v i believe) from smashing it in with the usb plug as the plastic seperator isnt in place to protect the pins..
the warranty exchange always sends me to data device support. Well i think its the same place your talking about...they called them high end device technicians or something along those lines...
ok got shot down again lol...well i TRIED to get to a supervisor and explained my WHOLE shpeal 2 more times for a total of 5 times now...so tomorrow im going to try again and DEMAND to speak with a supervisor..
tonight i just thought maybe just maybe this tech would understand and know but she insisted that she checked all documentation and that this issue is NOT a known issue and referred me to htc to get a repaired or customer support to get a new handset lol so ill give it a go tomorrow..
i just really hate having to explain it all because its so complicated unless i can show them pictures of the differences in each usb port and try to help them comprehend that htc obviously changed the port for a reason...
ok so thanks to the advice of k8nds (honesty) worked and i dont know WHY i didnt think of it before...not really the honesty part lol but the calling att and talking to them..i had forgot that i had talked my way out of an early disconnection fee with my prior agreement. That is somehwat relevant but what im getting at is ATT is there for your customers...if you make yourself seem that important to them...theyl do anything for you like many on this board have attested too...so the elevated rep (after speaking to 5 techs) let me know they will note the usb issue and if there is a charge for the detection of it it will be credited back.. so HOPEFULLY the replacement i recieve tomorrow has the revised usb port..
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Calm yourself kid. My comment about using a return key wasn't even directed at you, it was directed at pazookie's first post.
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ok so thanks to the advice of k8nds (honesty) worked and i dont know WHY i didnt think of it before...not really the honesty part lol but the calling att and talking to them..i had forgot that i had talked my way out of an early disconnection fee with my prior agreement. That is somehwat relevant but what im getting at is ATT is there for your customers...if you make yourself seem that important to them...theyl do anything for you like many on this board have attested too...so the elevated rep (after speaking to 5 techs) let me know they will note the usb issue and if there is a charge for the detection of it it will be credited back.. so HOPEFULLY the replacement i recieve tomorrow has the revised usb port..
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Well im glad it worked out for you. And you did not have to lie!!!
Anyone have any experience yet getting a Captivate replaced through the warranty department at 800-801-1101?
My sister got her phone on launch day, past few days the screen has really been acting up, and it's now just outside the 30 day store return period.
Anybody try getting a replacement from the warranty department? I'm figuring they have replacements available but I want to check before I waste my time calling in.
When my first captivate was randomly shutting down and the store I purchased it at was having a hard time keeping them stocked I called ATT and the guy said they absolutely could just send me another, but urged me to go to the store, call him back, and let him on the phone with the clerk so he could credit my return immediately and I could go elsewhere to buy another that same day, thus not eating anymore of my 30 days. So yeah, long story short, they can replace it right away from what I was told.
screw att. lol
go to the nearby att service center and replace it.
Several months ago, I woke up one morning to a phone that refused to charge, power on, or otherwise do anything.
Walked into an AT&T Warranty place, 30 minutes later, left with a new phone.
I purchased a captivate back in December at Sam's club and luckily haven't had any real issues with it(1010 build). My wifes been bugging me since then, that she wanted one, so I just bought another one off craigslist (0610 build).
I was curious to see what anyones thoughts are on this.
1st) The craigslist one has a small crack in the plastic casing around the charger door, so the door is kinda sunk in a little, but still works properly. I'm just a little worried that down the road it may become an issue.
2nd) It seams to have some of the gps issues. When running stock it will hardly pick up anything. I flashed a few other roms on it incorporating the various gps fixes, and Paragon seams to work best. But it still wont pull in a tight lock.
So my question is:
Do you think I could do a warranty exchange on the Craigslist one through the Att repair center? Basically pretending its the one I purchased through Sam's or will they be able to figure out that there 2 different phones?
Well, that's fraud but if you feel you must I would just play dumb like you didn't know and must have mixed up the phones. Heh
Not likely since they will have the IMEI record of the original purchaser. But go ahead and try. Come back and tell us how it worked out.
I have seen where many have gotten at&t to warranty their phone even though it was not purchased from them.
Try samsung, their stupider
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I have seen where many have gotten at&t to warranty their phone even though it was not purchased from them.
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Of course they will warranty a phone purchased by the original owner from another authorized retailer (I bought mine from Radio Shack and AT$T replaced the first 2), but they have zero obligation to warranty a phone to a 3rd party purchaser that bought the phone used. Most warranties are not transferable and are only good to the original purchaser.
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Of course they will warranty a phone purchased by the original owner from another authorized retailer (I bought mine from Radio Shack and AT$T replaced the first 2), but they have zero obligation to warranty a phone to a 3rd party purchaser that bought the phone used. Most warranties are not transferable and are only good to the original purchaser.
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I was referring to people who have bought via Craigslist and eBay as that was what was being discussed. I know they have no obligation but have read many people say they have.
Thanks anyway for your expert insight :/
Fried my phone the other day and had the power off issue.... went into my local AT&T warranty center and they hooked me up with a Refurb in about 20 minutes - no questions asked.
IF you have insurance and it's within the 1rst year of the phone's life they should replace it as long as it's not water damaged related.
(And... I had Serendipity back on it when I got home much to my wife's chagrin)
Note: The kid actually seemed to know what he was talking about too strangely enough. Knew about the IMEI range issue and claimed that the refurbs - even if they have the problematic range should be find as they replaced teh internal hardware.
I have a 1011 build now - and it seems to be working great (sans typical GPS BS)
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I was referring to people who have bought via Craigslist and eBay as that was what was being discussed. I know they have no obligation but have read many people say they have.
Thanks anyway for your expert insight :/
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There are authorized AT&T resellers on eBay. Craig's list is pretty much used only. Since AT$T has acknowledged a manufacturing defect issue with some of these phones, they will probably replace ones that fall within the affected IMEI range regardless where/when it was purchased. You may have to badger them a bit, but they generally prefer to just exchange it rather than lose a customer. Unfortunately, as the OP has told us, this particular phone has some visible physical damage. On that basis AT$T is unlikely to replace it for free as they will probably say any malfunction is related to that damage and not any manufacturing defect. That's my expert insight on it.
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Try samsung, their stupider
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If you don't know how to spell "they're," maybe you shouldn't be calling anyone stupid.
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If you don't know how to spell "they're," maybe you shouldn't be calling anyone stupid.
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i bought my phone off craigslist used, and when i bricked it as a newbie, called samsung for any info. as it was under a year old they took it back and repaired it free of charge. thank you! lol!
You'll either be completely out of luck and get a refurbished phone that will break in 91 days, or get a brand new phone with the same 90 day warranty that will take roughly 10 months to break.
I got lucky; the first refurbished replacement that I got was dead on arrival, so it gave me leverage to scream at ATT for being crap.
You can tell if your phone is refurbished or new by looking at the label under the battery cover; if it is white with ugly font and no indication of the Samsung logo, it's refurbished. If the logo is present, your phone is new.
Hi. So I recently bought a used Note 3 on craigslist. The phone works perfect. I inserted my Sim and have been using the phone with no problems. I decided to stick with my G3 and tried to sell the Note online. Come to find out there is something weird about the IMEI number. The number on the status screen comes up as blacklisted. There is a different IMEI number under the battery that comes up as valid.
As I said the phone works fine, but I dont know what is going on. The seller is obviously not being very helpful with my questions.
I have read about people illegally changing the IMEI numbers on phones. Is this what happened?
Why is the number under the battery the valid one? I assumed that if someone messed with the software the number on the status screen would be valid and the one under the battery would be blacklisted. The sticker under the battery looks legit.
Any help is appreciated.
Thank you
They could have changed it, but what I think is more likely is that they changed out the screen at some point and left the wrong sticker on it. On most newer Samsung phones the IMEI sticker is on the screen assembly, so when you install a new screen you have to swap the stickers too. I'm a phone tech and I always swap the stickers whenever I put a new screen on a device just to avoid this kind of confusion.
I personally would aggressively pursue a refund cause you could end up with an expensive paperweight even though it works fine at the moment. Involve the police if the seller decides to get salty about it, cause it's technically fraud.
Thank you for the response. Why would swapping out the screen change the IMEI? Which IMEI is the phone currently using?
The seller is no help.
Open the dialer screen and press *#06#
Don't press send. It will give a notification of what imei the phone is using.
I did this. The blacklisted one comes up.
I don't doubt what you're saying is true. But who says it's blacklisted? If it's an internet source I'd call the carrier. The carrier can tell you why it's blacklisted, and depending on the case it can un-blacklist it.
I also don't understand how a blacklisted device is working.
Unfortunately if it is blacklisted, you've been scammed. Contact the police. The more info you have, the more they can help you. If you have the sellers phone number, address, and description of them you might have a chance. Otherwise all you can do is sell it as a blacklisted device.
You are as confused as I am. Hence my post. Lol
I used Swappa to verify.
The number on the Status screen is definitely different than the one under the battery.
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They could have changed it, but what I think is more likely is that they changed out the screen at some point and left the wrong sticker on it. On most newer Samsung phones the IMEI sticker is on the screen assembly, so when you install a new screen you have to swap the stickers too. I'm a phone tech and I always swap the stickers whenever I put a new screen on a device just to avoid this kind of confusion.
I personally would aggressively pursue a refund cause you could end up with an expensive paperweight even though it works fine at the moment. Involve the police if the seller decides to get salty about it, cause it's technically fraud.
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Open the dialer screen and press *#06#
Don't press send. It will give a notification of what imei the phone is using.
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Green1534 said:
You are as confused as I am. Hence my post. Lol
I used Swappa to verify.
The number on the Status screen is definitely different than the one under the battery.
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Ignore the IMEI under the battery it's just a sticker I think what @kabuk1 is saying is that it could be different because of a careless error during a repair. The IMEI that shows up on the device is the IMEI of the phone and the one you should care about. If that is the one that swappa says is blacklisted then you should take @440bro and @kabuk1 s advice and investigate further with the carrier or just contact the police.
Sucks if you got scammed, but if you bought it through swappa they're really helpful with whatever you need. I bought a phone from a seller who turned nonresponsive immediately after the paypal payment cleared and they guys at swappa were really helpful getting my money back...slightly different situation but there is hope!
Thanks everyone for the feedback.
Just weird the phone works perfect.
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Thanks everyone for the feedback.
Just weird the phone works perfect.
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It could be blacklisted on a different carrier than the one you're using. Usually what happens is that if a phone is blacklisted by T-Mobile, you won't be able to use it on their network but if the phone is unlocked you could still use it on other GSM networks.
The phone is AT&T model and I am using it on AT&T
Hi I'm getting a "new" labeled v40 from ebay. I wanted to see if it is really brand new. Is there a way to check this in the service menu or using some other method? I guess I'd be looking for a power cycle count or something related to that?
Thanks
-J
Thats a tough thing. You going to have to communicate with the seller. What kind is it? Screenshots? Model? Even if the seller will not communicate then when the item arrives you can check imei see if its cleaned etc. If not at least you can return for full refund protected by ebay money back garantee