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Kaser overclock

Which software to use?

In my humble opinion: None......for the Qualcomm there is no software availalble to overclock it....but in time it will come...

try this out guys. application specific.

All this seems to be doing is to change the priority of the threads running certain applications. It does not overclock the CPU like OMAP did.

anyway does this work?
or its like the sktools optimization?

Any progress out there on a safe program to overclock a Kaiser? WM6 is definitely faster than WM5, but alot slower than my old Palm OS Treos.
thanks,
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I'm also waiting for a piece of software that will allow me to overclock my Kaiser, but still there is no progress at all. As they say - patience is gods' virtue (-:

has anyone tried htc performance?
I believe I read helmi had a hand in creating it???I know this has been used on a few different devices and is very low on batti draw but no one quite knows how it works.Really makes a difference on my device but Im not sure if it would be safe to use or even work with the proccessor on the kaiser.

With the battery life as borderline as it is with the Tilt/Kaiser, I'd shy away from overclocking. You'll get lightening fast speed for the 5 minutes of battery life

ya but...
ya but... with the video drivers we're missing and an overclocker the phone would be lightning quick.Also I was reading that the reality is with the right programmers the next gen phones kaiser , dream and a few others a playstation 2 emulator on the ppc would be possible. imagine being on a plane cut off 3g and phone functions and play ps2 games on your phone. plus with extended and/or extra batteries that are now becoming available...

I do not see the logic. The Kaiser is so fast and has so much memory, why would you risk bricking or prematurely damaging your phone? Just my opinion

punkhawaiian said:
I do not see the logic. The Kaiser is so fast and has so much memory, why would you risk bricking or prematurely damaging your phone? Just my opinion
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Glad to learn that my Kaiser is so fast ! I guess you don't use games or heavy graphical applications, because then you would see that the Kaiser is not faster than an HTC Prophet wich is overclocked at only 240 Mhz ! (380 Mhz for the Kaiser...). Also if you want to play VGA videos, the speed is not good enough (wich it should be if you look at the Qualcomm processors capabilities, but as everyone know here, HTC did'nt make the drivers for that).
I am very disapointed by the fact the Kaiser is not a VGA device, but even more disapointed when you see that it is not even faster than a VGA device !!! So at this low speed, where is the interest of having a QVGA screen compared to VGA ?
Definitly, an overclocker tool may help me to consider keeping my Kaiser (even if I think that at this device price, it's a shame to be obliged to overclock it to have a decent speed ...).

The prophet is slower in my opinion, I don't own a Kaiser, but whenever i use it everything happens faster than on my overclocked WM6 Prophet (overclocked to 286MHz normally).

How does the speed compare to the TyTN, mine should be here on Wednesday... I can't wait!

someone found a tool that really works ?

WOW! and I thought we had enough problem threads on here with overheat and battery deaths!
Look out for many more!!

I upgraded to kaiser from a Tmob Wing, for that I played with an overclocker called Fl0wt. Which did seem to work BUT the battery becames a flamethrower of heat and the battery life was sucked away in no time. this wasnt a big clock speed step either. The parts just arnt suited for the additional heat it seems. plus it felt dangerously hot...like "hit the dirt its going to blow" hot. not worth the risk in my oppinion...but hey thats just me

Can you post a link to "Fl0wt" ive searched far and wide and found nothing. Please post a link.
Cheers !

dizzy33 said:
Glad to learn that my Kaiser is so fast ! I guess you don't use games or heavy graphical applications, because then you would see that the Kaiser is not faster than an HTC Prophet wich is overclocked at only 240 Mhz ! (380 Mhz for the Kaiser...). Also if you want to play VGA videos, the speed is not good enough (wich it should be if you look at the Qualcomm processors capabilities, but as everyone know here, HTC did'nt make the drivers for that).
I am very disapointed by the fact the Kaiser is not a VGA device, but even more disapointed when you see that it is not even faster than a VGA device !!! So at this low speed, where is the interest of having a QVGA screen compared to VGA ?
Definitly, an overclocker tool may help me to consider keeping my Kaiser (even if I think that at this device price, it's a shame to be obliged to overclock it to have a decent speed ...).
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I beg to differ.
I play LOTS n LOTS of games on my TyTN II AND I watch full feature movies and I use Outlook AND I use GPS AND I use internet (Netfront v3.5) and I have yet to find a speed problem as mentioned in this here cheese and whine forum.
Some of the games I have on my TyTN II are:
Cybersaurus
Warfare Inc
Machines at War
Bejeweled 2
Zuma
Ackys XP Breakout
Shattered Worlds
Call of Duty 2
Darxide EMP
gfDoom
Fast Future Race
G-Prime Extreme
Interstellar Flames
Skyforce Reloaded
Quake & Quake 2
Sinbad Return of the Legends
Flux Challenge
Is this a good enough sample for you?
THE KAISER NEVER CLAIMED TO BE A VGA DEVICE. IT IS STRICTLY QVGA....NOW GET OVER IT!!!
I am starting to believe that AT&T roms are fraught with problems.
I don't have that problem here in SA.
My TyTN 2 is MUCH faster than my iMate KJam....MUCH MUCH FASTER!!!
So I don't know what you are referring to.

MACkjam said:
I beg to differ.
I play LOTS n LOTS of games on my TyTN II AND I watch full feature movies and I use Outlook AND I use GPS AND I use internet (Netfront v3.5) and I have yet to find a speed problem as mentioned in this here cheese and whine forum.
Some of the games I have on my TyTN II are:
Call of Duty 2
Is this a good enough sample for you?
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I have Call of Duty 2 too, and it's really slow on the Kaiser compared to other devices. You should see how it runs on other PPC's...
MACkjam said:
I am starting to believe that AT&T roms are fraught with problems.
I don't have that problem here in SA.
My TyTN 2 is MUCH faster than my iMate KJam....MUCH MUCH FASTER!!!
So I don't know what you are referring to.
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I have an T-mobile Kaiser and it's definitely not much faster than a Magician. The difference is really, really small.
And we're referring to the fact that there are no drivers for the ATI Imageon hardware. Thanks to this, everything needs to be rendered by the CPU.

TytnII Vs Imate 9502

I have just been given a Imate 9502 on a plan( ok i have to pay for it over a period of time)and as this uses the same chipset as the the TytnII i thought this would be interesting, also keep in mind the Imate 9502 uses a 640x480 VGA screen..have completed some benchmarking using VSbenchmark..
Imate9502 TYTNII
Graphic test1 1717 1101
Other test2 1913 1875
Jpeg test3 3098 2323
Games test4 1099 1278
Sound test5 1944 0668
Total Score 1954 1449
Very interesting indeed, only score which TytnII wins on is the Games test.But as the 9502 is running at higher res than the TytnII and getting higher scores does this mean Imate have fixed the qualcomm issue????..
movie play back is a breeze stock... will run tests later using diff players

Just from those numbers I'm pretty sure nothing is really fixed. Check out the score difference from the P6500 to the Kaiser
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381254
I've seen variation even between Kaisers of a few hundred points just depending on ROMs, software and a myriad of little things that can affect the overall score.

Are you taking into account that the res is double that of the TytnII,also according to VSbenchmark's web page,the scores that the 9502 got are lil over mid way compared to a tytnII having a reported score of 1444 admitedly there was a KAISER on there with a slightly higher score but it still wasnt anywhere near the 9502.
The reason i reported the TytnII score and not the KAISER from VSbenchmark was MY TytnII got sim Scores.
Another point of interest is the 9502 has VGA out,which i hooked up to the phillips 50in LCD and works a treat.
also will down load SPD benchmark and will report those scores

Technically, the resolution is 4 times that of the Kaiser if you care comparing pixel count. There are 4 times as many pixels on a 640x480 screen than there is on a 320x240 screen.

Hi mav42,
Could you please report what free program memory (RAM) you get immediately after a soft reset. In some reviews I have read it is just over 32 MB which in my opinion is very low for a 128 MB installed device. For example my TyTn II gives close to 70 MB of free RAM immediately after a soft reset.
Shall be obliged for your response as I am seriously considering getting one myself but the memory issue is holding me back.
Regards

Are we sure that benchmark is even measuring the kind of stuff the Tytn II is known to be missing? I thought someone pointed out, the last time comparisons were drawn with these benchmarks, that the accelerated hardware wasn't actually being tested at all.
Someone (who knows what they're doing) needs to get hold of a rom for the 9502 and start analysing it... Chainfire, where art thou?

Boinng said:
Are we sure that benchmark is even measuring the kind of stuff the Tytn II is known to be missing? I thought someone pointed out, the last time comparisons were drawn with these benchmarks, that the accelerated hardware wasn't actually being tested at all.
Someone (who knows what they're doing) needs to get hold of a rom for the 9502 and start analysing it... Chainfire, where art thou?
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Im sorry Im just a idiot heres me thinking that both these devices use the same chipset doh....wait a minute they do.......all i did was compare these device's using the same benchmarks at the same time to see if there was any major diff,report it and work from there....and in this case there is a diff .also even if stated by Bong that these benchmarks dont measure accelerated hardware theres still a diff between these 2 devices using software rendition

mav42 said:
Im sorry Im just a idiot heres me thinking that both these devices use the same chipset doh....wait a minute they do.......all i did was compare these device's using the same benchmarks at the same time to see if there was any major diff,report it and work from there....and in this case there is a diff .also even if stated by Bong that these benchmarks dont measure accelerated hardware theres still a diff between these 2 devices using software rendition
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I meant no offence, sorry it appears I've caused some. My question was genuine - if the benchmark doesn't test the imageon features etc, then that would explain the relatively small difference in the tests, even if the 9502's video is miles better in use.
I'm well aware of the shared chipset, and that's why I'm so interested in a developer getting hold of the ROM and extracting any drivers they can.

Can you post a TCPMP or Core player video playback benchmark? Thanks

srmz said:
Hi mav42,
Could you please report what free program memory (RAM) you get immediately after a soft reset. In some reviews I have read it is just over 32 MB which in my opinion is very low for a 128 MB installed device. For example my TyTn II gives close to 70 MB of free RAM immediately after a soft reset.
Shall be obliged for your response as I am seriously considering getting one myself but the memory issue is holding me back.
Regards
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ok after doing a soft reset
total:84.41mb...........in use 50.26mb..........FREE 34.15mb
hope that helps

This is exactly why we need a 9502 section on here! From what I have read so far (only on mobile phone consumer forums mind, so no techies), the major issues are:
1. Complete lack of free RAM meaning only one or two apps can be run simultaneously.(Unconfirmed how much this issue is related to Telstra ROM/bloatware).
2. Is not natively SDHC compliant and although the WM6 SDHC drivers work, they disable the wifi functionality of the device.
Both of these things I think could be remedied by XDA-Dev geniuses.

I just want to know does the 9502 suffer from the I-hit-a-button-but-nothing-happens-unless-i-hold-it-down-for-a-few-seconds-then-it-clicks syndrom that the Tilt has?

starstreak said:
I just want to know does the 9502 suffer from the I-hit-a-button-but-nothing-happens-unless-i-hold-it-down-for-a-few-seconds-then-it-clicks syndrom that the Tilt has?
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I have not come accross this problem..........so far....

aww man. if that SOny X1 wasn't coming out, I would buy the 9502. That and not being VGA is my only complaint with the Tilt I have. I miss the VGA and I can't stand it how sometimes the screen or key just wont register presses unless you hold it down.

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aww man. if that SOny X1 wasn't coming out, I would buy the 9502.
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Sony X1 doesn't have a jogdial and OK button on left side, I guess all TyTN users got used to have that... 9502 does have those

Is there going to have a Imate 9502 Section?
I too holding a imate

I would really appreciate if somebody could post the XIP and some of the other graphics related dlls (DDI.dll, dependencies, etc). ROM dump would be nice.
So far, I have the 9502 ahi2dati.dll from some other thread and it's the same as the KS20 so that's a good comparison point, depending on how you want to look at it.

I would really appreciate if somebody could post the XIP and some of the other graphics related dlls (DDI.dll, dependencies, etc). ROM dump would be nice.
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Totally agree! if someone gives this dump would be very nice .
im also working on this and i need some dlls. XIP etc.
a ROM dump would be great!

Diamond V Touch

Morning all
With the upcoming release of the diamond, it is time for me to retire my Touch (elf)
My question is about processor speeds and memory. I love my touch, but the major problem i have with it is the memory in it is poor - and the processor speed is quite slow.
So with all of the fancy graphical stuff on the diamond, is this going to take up all of the memory and affect the speed? or is the new processor better equipped?
Just trying to decide between the diamond or the raphael.... hmmmm

Even I'm faced with the same dilemma. Since I bought the touch I changed to the TYTN II and TOuch Cruise but ended up going back to the touch coz of its size and ease of use.
I think the Raphael is more or less a kaiser with some frills, so Id stay away from that if size is a issue.
The Diamond has192mb and the Raphael 256mb... may not be a big difference.
Id like to hear some opinions as well..

yeah i think the rapheal will be too big..
what memory does the orignal touch have? 128MB?
192 isnt that much morereally... when you think about how much more work it is going to be doing with image and animation caching...
hmmmm

selspiero said:
Morning all
With the upcoming release of the diamond, it is time for me to retire my Touch (elf)
My question is about processor speeds and memory. I love my touch, but the major problem i have with it is the memory in it is poor - and the processor speed is quite slow.
So with all of the fancy graphical stuff on the diamond, is this going to take up all of the memory and affect the speed? or is the new processor better equipped?
Just trying to decide between the diamond or the raphael.... hmmmm
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I have a Touch too, but I will definitely be getting a Touch Diamond. The Touch Diamond won't be particularly slow because of TouchFLO 3D, and the amount of RAM available with TouchFLO 3D running will make you wonder how you ever used to put up with your Touch.
selspiero said:
yeah i think the rapheal will be too big..
what memory does the orignal touch have? 128MB?
192 isnt that much morereally... when you think about how much more work it is going to be doing with image and animation caching...
hmmmm
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The original Touch has 64MB of RAM, so the Touch Diamond has a lot more. The Touch Diamond is, apparently, the official successor to the original Touch, so Touch owners should get a Touch Diamond - it lacks all of the problems that the Touch had.

blimey! 64MB RAM!! the 192 is sounding better now! well that has pushed me towards it...
justgotta wait now

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I want know if somebody overclock diamond with a soft, and, if yes, is there some problems, or not, accelerate the 3D flow, and other appli...
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Hello, almost neighborou, I am Czech. I have Diamond for one day, but I spend hours findong some info - here is shortly what I know: Yes, Diamond has some Graphic Drivers, but still nothing exciting yet. It seems that 3D drivers are much better than 2D here. If you want a proof, a can say that on TyTN 2 in some bench thay gave 140 FPS, but Diamond gave only 80! Of course TyTN had experimental drivers. This means that Diamond has big reserves in performance, and they are waiting to be used. The 7201A dualcore CPU is basicly high-end technology theoretcally much better than Xscale CPUs, but its bad optimalised. (I heared that new Google phone will have one, but I am not sure). Yes, CoreCodec can use QTv, but now it is almost clear that Diamond has moch more to offer from HW. So, Oc will not help you, only new ROM can. There are many great pople and many ROM´s, and there is also preassure on HTC to come with better drivers, and personally I think it will be bigger and bigger, due to Touch Pro. So just wait, it take some time, but I trust there will be more power than you need sometimes.

Touch Pro 2 sucks. OT

Let's face it people. When the TP2 was announced it was looking like a great device and a possible Xperia replacement. Now, after it is out, I can safely say that it has both bad hardware and software. I will hang tight to my Xperia for the time being.
Here is why I do not like the TP2:
No 3.5 m headphone jack - LOL. In 2009...............
No flash/LED on the camera - Again, it is 2009 and this is a high end device.....
No D-pad or other directional buttons on the front - They say the software is optimized for that kind of use. Well, what about the 10k apps I want to install, that require a d-pad?
No FM radio/disabled by firmware - Why??? That is the stupidest decision by a phone manufactirer ever.
Same processor as the TP. 520mhz qualcom, although the TP2 has an older version !!!!!!!!! - Older version on a model that is supposed to be a successor???
TP - MSM 7201 A
TP2 - MSM 7200 A
Same storage space as the TP.
Same ammount of RAM, although the TP2 has 20mb LESS RAM available to it. I repeat, the newer version has less RAM available!!!
TP2 has a better battery than the TP, BUT worse battery life! How about that huh???
Good things:
Nice screen. (tilting)
5 row keyboard. (awesome)
Noise cancelation.
How is the Touch Pro 2 an upgrade?? It has ther same or LOWER specs than the Touch Pro. I feel cheated by HTC . My advice is - Keep your Touch Pro or Xperia and wait for the TP3 or X2.......

What are they playing at lol! got to agree it is very poor not to have even a 3.5 head jack

The HTC branded phones always have sucky battery life (and usually overheating issues)...

It's just a marketing!

whats the point of this fanboish thread
the tp2 is an amazing device despite it shortcomings. and its software is refined, much faster and better than X1's

THE GRIZZ said:
whats the point of this fanboish thread
the tp2 is an amazing device despite it shortcomings. and its software is refined, much faster and better than X1's
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Fanboy?? ROFL!!!!!!!
I am just expressing my disappointment, because I wanted this device so bad. Better look at my other posts before you judge and FYI I posted the same thread in the Touch Pro 2 forum.

this thread really dont belong in x1 forums...im moving it

agreed i want a dpad and soft keys so badly. btw is their a 3d accelerator card with a driver in the tp2?

Duplicate thread of the Rhoduim one.
Closing this one for sure.
Dave