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Good news for Kaiser users: CorePlayer 1.2 will entirely fix the video problems!

See http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=596.0

sounds coool, I wonder how they want to fix the misssing driver support...

If you read the explanation posted on that forum -
The issue was that they used something called QTV for overlay (undocumented qualcomm driver).
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I'm assuming "they" is HTC, which suggests that the driver support isn't missing, it's just not working very well, and Coreplayer have switched to something else.

G Reat News

That is very interesting also for all the future users of Polaris too!

Boinng said:
If you read the explanation posted on that forum -
I'm assuming "they" is HTC, which suggests that the driver support isn't missing, it's just not working very well, and Coreplayer have switched to something else.
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Yes, maybe they are NOT missing (as some people have said) and this is the first app that actually uses the correct calls.
Can we get rid of that sticky now??

how will i get the additional driver or update for my htc tytn II? when will this be available?

kurashige said:
how will i get the additional driver or update for my htc tytn II? when will this be available?
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There is no additional driver or update for the Tytn II, only a new version of Coreplayer which is compatible with the driver already in the Tytn II. This will be on sale in the new year.

Farsquidge said:
Can we get rid of that sticky now??
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This guy is the definition of annoying...

dsyro said:
This guy is the definition of annoying...
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Sorry, I did not say remove the thread, that would be wrong. I just asked if it could be made un-sticky!

Do you mean petition thread?
That petition is much more general. It touches problems with accelerated 3D graphics as well as video playback issues.
None of these are solved yet. I don't see any reason for un-sticky-ing that thread.
Bottom line: No, I don't think that petition will solve anything. But I still like people to know about Kaiser's problems.

omikr0n said:
Do you mean petition thread?
That petition is much more general. It touches problems with accelerated 3D graphics as well as video playback issues.
None of these are solved yet. I don't see any reason for un-sticky-ing that thread.
Bottom line: No, I don't think that petition will solve anything. But I still like people to know about Kaiser's problems.
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Unlike others who, for reasons that escape us all, would rather hide them under the carpet

Ahhh... You people and your petitions.... very amusing.
Now come on, don't all jump on me now... It's cute that you have an interest and you feel that your 'doing something'

greeek said:
Ahhh... You people and your petitions.... very amusing.
Now come on, don't all jump on me now... It's cute that you have an interest and you feel that your 'doing something'
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It would be a pity if the problem was solved and admins could put a block on certain people downloading from this site.....

Will this fix in any way help with the Camera/Video Camera jerky/blurry-video issue?
Either way it's nice to see some solutions are finally surfacing.

Menneisyys said:
See http://www.corecodec.com/forums/index.php?topic=596.0
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Really, you call this good news? This is horrible news. And it isn't even correct either.
They haven't solved anything, they're just used a propriety technology driver to do something that by all means SHOULD WORK with the already existing and used-in-every-normal-program DirectDraw and GDI.
This gives HTC even LESS incentive to fix our problems, since there is now (a particularly bad) workaround.
So now we have to use a custom player we have to pay for to do something our device should have done already out-of-the-box, and it still doesn't solve our GDI, DD, D3D or GLES issues.
You call this good news, I call this a farce.
(And actually, the correct GDI/DD should be able to decide when to actually use QTV and do this internally, just like the KS20 D3Dm driver uses GLES internally)

Chainfire said:
Really, you call this good news? This is horrible news.
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It is very good news for anyone wanting to watch videos with CorePlayer. Noone else, I know. But, at least, video playback becomes much easier.
Chainfire said:
This gives HTC even LESS incentive to fix our problems
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Do you really think HTC would fix these issues? They haven't even fixed the two-year-old touchscreen CPU usage issue plaguing ALL 2.8" HTC phones... a major pain in the back with ALL these phones.

Menneisyys said:
It is very good news for anyone wanting to watch videos with CorePlayer. Noone else, I know. But, at least, video playback becomes much easier.
Do you really think HTC would fix these issues? They haven't even fixed the two-year-old touchscreen CPU usage issue plaguing ALL 2.8" HTC phones... a major pain in the back with ALL these phones.
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Which is why my next device will not be a HTC device. I am seriously thinking of switching to the new US nokia with the upgraded ram and cpu.

Bratag said:
Which is why my next device will not be a HTC device. I am seriously thinking of switching to the new US nokia with the upgraded ram and cpu.
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You mean the N95-3? That's a very nice model - highly recommended.

Farsquidge said:
Sorry, I did not say remove the thread, that would be wrong. I just asked if it could be made un-sticky!
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If any sticky gets removed it should be the "The thread to address ALL TILT-specific questions". What a mess that turned into. It is completely useless. In addition to the length and disjointed topics, many of the questions aren't even Tilt specific. The first several posts should be moved to the wiki, glean what you can from the rest and let that abomination fade into a long overdue digital oblivian! ...nuf said
Back on topic, I think this is good news but the petitioned issue still stands. Core Player will help for encoded video only, and has not yet been released. Until I see it, I am sceptical. Plus it requires an additional purchase for something that should be free. Still, being able to transcode my video library once and be able to play on multiple devices with respectible quality will make it well worth the price.
So I will probably wind up using it if/when it does come out and if it does indeed work, but I still think the petition thread serves a good purpose, if only to make potential purchasers aware of the situation, and also what to expect form HTC support (which is basiaclly nothing).

QUALCOMM(R) 7201 chip on my Tilt.

I just received a warranty replacement for my ATT Tilt (reception problem, it would drop signal and not pick it up again, not in a 3g area). I checked the device info to see if they had preloaded the updated rom--they did--and in the hardware section they listed the chip as a 7201, not a 7200 like my old one.
So, what is the difference between the 7200 and the 7201? I did a seach and couldn't really find anything.
Thanks.

o wow this may be very important actually.
have you noticed any graphical improvement?

mikeeey said:
o wow this may be very important actually.
have you noticed any graphical improvement?
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I must admit, sheepishly, that I haven't done anything with it yet. I don't have time to string out the restore process, and I don't want to just restore from a backup, so I'm collecting all the cabs I need, at the moment. I should have it up completely tomorrow night.
Is there any file or anything I should be looking for?

sharpja said:
I must admit, sheepishly, that I haven't done anything with it yet. I don't have time to string out the restore process, and I don't want to just restore from a backup, so I'm collecting all the cabs I need, at the moment. I should have it up completely tomorrow night.
Is there any file or anything I should be looking for?
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OK,
I ran VSBenchmark--sound off--and got the following:
graphics: 1254
Others: 2178
JPEG: 2612
games: 1540
Sound: 0592
final score: 1635
so according to this, it's not any faster.

ugh..who knows.. maybe its nothing lol.
but i thought i remember hearing that the P6500 had this chip or something?

I just got my tilt last week and it also has the 7201 not any faster than other tilts though

mikeeey said:
o wow this may be very important actually.
have you noticed any graphical improvement?
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For some reason this reply really makes me laugh inside. What your seeing is (my guess) the oem chip number finally being shown. This is the chip with the video gpu turned off. Why does everyone think it's going to be something better?

ChumleyEX said:
This is the chip with the video gpu turned off.
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/cry... Seriously, I've given up hoping for awesome video performance from my Tilt. I'm running Dutty's latest release and it is plenty fast enough for me. I barely use my phone for talking, let alone video playback. We'll just have to wait for the Xperia to come out.

ChumleyEX said:
For some reason this reply really makes me laugh inside. What your seeing is (my guess) the oem chip number finally being shown. This is the chip with the video gpu turned off. Why does everyone think it's going to be something better?
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I was afraid of that. So, same chip, but new number to reflect what we <i>really</i> have.

In my not so humble opinion, I would say that maybe Qualcomm caught enough heat from people like us that they started requiring new phone to go out with the 7201 name instead of the 7200. Now they will have something to fall back on. Also the way that HTC has worded some of their replies to us just gives me the impression that this chip has been modded for them. Which is normal.

ChumleyEX said:
For some reason this reply really makes me laugh inside. What your seeing is (my guess) the oem chip number finally being shown. This is the chip with the video gpu turned off. Why does everyone think it's going to be something better?
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hey i was thinking that too, either improvement, or a big nail thru the processor disabling any possible drivers.

QUALCOMM(R) 7201 vs 7200 chip
I just got my new Tilt from at&t today for a warranty swap. I checked it out hoping there would be a new ROM release on it. There wasn't. I checked the Device Info and to my surprise it was a different chip. Normally it's the 7200. This one has the 7201. I am wondering if this is common where some Kaisers come with the 7201 or if it's a new release. I searched Google and was unable to find any info. Here are some pictures.
I'm unsure that it's anything but I have noticed that my new tilt runs much faster and smoother. There could be a few different reasons but my old one never seemed to run this fast.
I am using the at&t wm6.1 test rom on both.

Here is mine. Thats odd. I haven't seen that. Maybe someone can clarify.

P1Tater said:
Here is mine. Thats odd. I haven't seen that. Maybe someone can clarify.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385347
Multiple people saying it. Someone else said it's an OEM spin w/ the graphics disabled...

hmm my tytnII is 7200 as well...maybe tilts have 7201?

my tilt is 7200

I just got my warranty replacement today and it too has the 7201 chip. I couldn't find this thread so I started my own.
Mine seems faster and smoother. Significantly. It's possible it's because of something I did to my old Tilt but I really don't think I did anything but it's possible. I'm benchmarking in coreplayer and I'll try spb benchmark, but it's not likely i'll find anything.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2121403#post2121403

When I say significantly, I don't mean like it has the drivers. It just feels much faster.

idj1975 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=385347
Multiple people saying it. Someone else said it's an OEM spin w/ the graphics disabled...
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My bad. I didnt realize that was what that thread was about. I haven't even looked in it until you linked it. My apologies.

My coreplayer test were inconclusive. My new tilt came out ahead but by very little after a few runs. Every time it was more but not by much.

HTCclassaction - drivers are here! (NOT)

Breaking news: HTC's WM6.1 Update is here (?), ROM analysis and video driver news. Read more...
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080521_1

SpeedyTuning said:
Breaking news: HTC's WM6.1 Update is here (?), ROM analysis and video driver news. Read more...
http://www.htcclassaction.org/#update_20080521_1
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Wasn't it concluded that the Dutch version (even though it improved the graphics benchmark) did not really improve the video play?

i dont understand everything, but i send news info, for users which doesnt look for HTCclassaction

I liked this part most of all.
Before we continue on that point, there's something else you should know. There is also a leaked Diamond ROM. We have pulled this ROM apart and guess what: it has graphics drivers! They follow the same structure as the KS20 drivers too, with the "ahi2dati" driver at the core of the hardware accelerated graphics, talking to the hardware. It seems to be a bit more compatible with the current Kaiser ROMs, but note we have not compared the internal calls (yet!) to the new leaked NLD and WWE ROMs. Also note that because of this construct, it does not seem to be possible do drop in the libgles_cm hardware 3D driver.
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hmm not so good

pretty misleading subject line then... maybe should have been something like "Drivers are here!! (On the Diamond)" or something like that, because the way its looking, we are still going to be without drivers from HTC...thanks alot.

Why create such a thread title if not only is it not true, but you have no idea on what you're talking about? Seriously, stop spreading stupid rumors and making stuff up

Well it does say that they think they have the leaked FIX (not driver) over at modaco.com..
I just don't think people realize that a driver and a fix are two different things. On the bright side, it does seem that the driver we do have might be upgraded to something a bit better. Maybe not 100% but still better then what we do have.
(and dont' way we don't have a driver at all, you do have video on your phone)

rcm_rx7 said:
pretty misleading subject line then... maybe should have been something like "Drivers are here!! (On the Diamond)" or something like that, because the way its looking, we are still going to be without drivers from HTC...thanks alot.
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Absolutely! I was so excited when I saw the subject line and so disappointed when I saw what it was talking about....sigh....

according to htc our hardware doesn't support graphic acceleration (don't know how much truth is there) so i don't even know if its worth following the driver update ...

thesire said:
according to htc our hardware doesn't support graphic acceleration (don't know how much truth is there) so i don't even know if its worth following the driver update ...
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No according to HTC we don't use the hardware.
The wording matters.

ChumleyEX said:
No according to HTC we don't use the hardware.
The wording matters.
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thanks for the clarrification senior

Indeed the title of this topic is a bit misleading, BUT there is some good news at HTCClassAction:
If this is true, it would definitely open doors to bringing full hardware acceleration to the TyTN II, and possibly other MSM7x00 based devices. We have a TyTN II ROM that somehow touches the accelerated video hardware (NLD, probably WWE), we have fully accelerated drivers from HTC (Diamond), and we already have some prior experience due to the KS20 drivers. Throw them all together and it suddenly becomes a lot more likely the community will be able to bring full graphics drivers to the affected devices. Interesting times! Stay tuned, the effort has already begun!
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There is still hope!!

ChumleyEX said:
Well it does say that they think they have the leaked FIX (not driver) over at modaco.com..
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modaco.com was also one of the early Kaiser reviewers who either deliberately or ignorantly didn't comment on the graphics problems in the first place. That site has zero credibility in my book.

greenbrd said:
modaco.com was also one of the early Kaiser reviewers who either deliberately or ignorantly didn't comment on the graphics problems in the first place. That site has zero credibility in my book.
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I've had a stinking feeling that reviewers were reviewing preproduction devices that had drivers. That is what the Sedna review from the Spanish site Todo Smartphone.com leads me to believe anyway. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381254
Perhaps it's not their fault. I would like to see them always do ROM dumps and benchmarks.

Digitaltigre said:
I've had a stinking feeling that reviewers were reviewing preproduction devices that had drivers. That is what the Sedna review from the Spanish site Todo Smartphone.com leads me to believe anyway. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381254
Perhaps it's not their fault. I would like to see them always do ROM dumps and benchmarks.
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Maybe, but the threat of being cut off from future preproduction review units could have something to do with the silence of some of the review sites.
Not to accuse anybody of anything in this case, but I worked in IT publishing for a long time and saw a lot of dirty tricks played by the tech companies.

WIFI hardware problem

Hello!
I've got a problem with my xperias wifi. when i turn on the wifi my phone crashes, not all time,but most of them. (about 70-80%) Only the battery replacement helps.
I tried many different roms,but nothing helped.
Is somebody have any idea what to do?
(sorry for my english..)
madmike

muranyi said:
Hello!
I've got a problem with my xperias wifi. when i turn on the wifi my phone crashes, not all time,but most of them. (about 70-80%) Only the battery replacement helps.
I tried many different roms,but nothing helped.
Is somebody have any idea what to do?
(sorry for my english..)
madmike
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hi
just guessing as I'm no technician, but as you tried it with different roms I suspect you answered yourself: might be a hardware issue
if it also didn't work on stock rom it might be a good idea to contact SE service, hope you are still in warrranty period...
gl
Ed. maybe it's worth trying wifimonster, haven't used it myself but it's got a good rep and seems to offer quite a few configuration options
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DrakenKorin said:
hi
just guessing as I'm no technician, but as you tried it with different roms I suspect you answered yourself: might be a hardware issue
if it also didn't work on stock rom it might be a good idea to contact SE service, hope you are still in warrranty period...
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Ed. maybe it's worth trying wifimonster, haven't used it myself but it's got a good rep and seems to offer quite a few configuration options
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Hello!
I've already try wifimonster and all the same like in communication manager, crash...
I have got warranty, or I dont know. I've got 1+1 year,and this is the second. I don't know what is the difference between them.

muranyi said:
Hello!
I've already try wifimonster and all the same like in communication manager, crash...
I have got warranty, or I dont know. I've got 1+1 year,and this is the second. I don't know what is the difference between them.
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hi
shame wifi monster would have been easier...
I would expect the following: first year warranty provided by (responsibility of) reseller (provider), second year by producer
easy to confirm when contacting your reseller shop (if you got it there with a contract)
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[Q] Camera Will Not Work Regardless of ROM

I have been trying to get this issue fixed for the past month but nothing seems to work.
I've spoken with Ale Baba and he tried helping me but he has not responded to my last two PM's (I assume he is extremely busy).
The camera will not load. Once I click the Camera app or any other app that relies on the camera, I get a black screen and I have to Force Close the app.
The Full Logs are available in the attachments.
I hope someone can lend me a hand. I thought that trying a vanilla (stock) ROM might eliminate other issues but I cannot get my hands on one.

Quite easy: Your hardware doesn't respond at all. That's what I essentially already told you in PMs.
There are plenty of (stock) RUUs in this forum, all rooted. Choose one and see if you sensor works.
I very much doubt that, for me this looks like defective hardware which no ROM developer can fix. I might be wrong though.

ali ba said:
Quite easy: Your hardware doesn't respond at all. That's what I essentially already told you in PMs.
There are plenty of (stock) RUUs in this forum, all rooted. Choose one and see if you sensor works.
I very much doubt that, for me this looks like defective hardware which no ROM developer can fix. I might be wrong though.
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Well, then I completely misunderstood your intention.
Your last PM was this:
This really seems to be a problem with the kernel. I used a stock kernel, maybe HTC changed something in newer hardware revisions.
HTC might have fixed that error in the kernel sources they provide. Please try Azure 0.5 (available via ROM Manager).
For Azure I compiled the kernel and if you are lucky this error is fixed.
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I apologize if you sent another PM and I did not receive it. From this message, I understood that if I try a different ROM, I may have more success with it accessing my camera, which was not the case. I've tried many ROMs and it seems they all suffer from the same issue with my device.
I will try one of the stock RUUs around here, if that fails, I will unroot and send it in for warranty purposes.

Actually I got your reply about Azure not working either and am pretty sure that I recommended trying 2.03.
But I usually do a lot of things concurrently, so maybe I just thought I send that reply and didn't check whether it was sent at all.