Kaiser and iPAQ 210 on same Computer? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I just bought a new unlocked Kaiser and I also run an iPAQ 210 Enterprise Handheld PDA. Am I able to run both on my Laptop, and have only one instance of ActiveSync Would I have to use two different ID's?
I don't want to give up my PDA if I don't have to, but I suppose eventually I will have everything on the Kaiser.
Thanks for your help.

Nickster248 said:
I just bought a new unlocked Kaiser and I also run an iPAQ 210 Enterprise Handheld PDA. Am I able to run both on my Laptop, and have only one instance of ActiveSync Would I have to use two different ID's?
I don't want to give up my PDA if I don't have to, but I suppose eventually I will have everything on the Kaiser.
Thanks for your help.
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The device ID is different from the Owner name so if one is 'Kaiser' for instance and the other is 'iPaq' you can sync both with Activesync 4.5 as it will create different profiles for each (but not at the same time I think, maybe wrong).

I ran two WM devices on one PC for a little while. Its super simple. Just make sure they have different names (I havent tried running two idenical devices).

Thanks to both of you for answering my question. I can hardly wait for the Kaiser to arrive, and I will make sure I set up another partnership with a different name as you both suggested.
Thanks again....

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How to sync tytn ii with mac... has anyone got any clue

I have just bought HTC tytn II but dont know how to sync it with my mac. can anyone provide any answers
You'll have to use The Missing Sync for Windows Mobile to sync all your calendars, tasks and contacts from your mac to your phone.
http://www.markspace.com/missingsync_windowsmobile.php
I used it with my 8525, and it worked without a problem. I've never tried it with my Tilt, but it should be the same.
Dave
yeah Missing Sync works great with Mac...you can sync more items than ActiveSync offers for Windows. Such as text messages...
Wow! I was expecting to browse this thread and see a ton of replies flaming Mac. Good to see the professionalism showing.
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Wow! I was expecting to browse this thread and see a ton of replies flaming Mac. Good to see the professionalism showing.
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Well i am a MS fan, always been a user since the first time i used a computer, but am now employed by Apple (no, i refuse to use that iPhone, its truly not as good as people say it is), and to admit, there are many things Apple is better at than MS, but Mobile, Windows Mobile remains on top only because its so open.
rohit8282 said:
I have just bought HTC tytn II but dont know how to sync it with my mac. can anyone provide any answers
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you can try eltima syncmate. right now its still in beta. feature wise and simplicity I like it better than missing sync but that's just me.
When I had Tiger, the one thing missing sync had above syncmate was its ability to open my device as a disk in mac os x. But with leopard, this has been disabled (missing sync 4.02) You can read through the missing sync change log about this. If you still use tiger, try and get the last missing sync v3. If you have leopard, i'd advise using syncmate since it's free though there are still some bugs (i mainly use contacts sync and no issues there)
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Wow! I was expecting to browse this thread and see a ton of replies flaming Mac. Good to see the professionalism showing.
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There is no need to flame Macs. They are now capable of running their own OS as well as a working one (how's that for professionalism )
Ok, I'm just a sarcastic jerk. I actually have a Vista computer, an iMac G5, my Tilt and I have an iPhone again (which is going on Craigslist...again!). I don't know how to synchronize with the Mac so I just use the PC. I couldn't care any less which of the computers I use. They both work.
wow! i'm glad tytn II can be synced with Mac! coz my Vista just crashed on me a few hours ago without any good reason but thank God it miraculously got revived!
so i'm really skeptical of Windows and plan on jumping over to Mac if ever any nonsense from Windows/Vista comes up again..
rohit8282 said:
I have just bought HTC tytn II but dont know how to sync it with my mac. can anyone provide any answers
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I have owned a qtek 9000, an HTC MeTeor, an HTC TyTN ll, and All have been WinMobile 5, smartphones, or WinMobile 6 Professional devices, and I can honestly say, that The Missing sync (on My MacBOOk Pro, OS X 10.5.6), I have had SIGNIFIGANT SYNCING ISSUES, AND SIGNIFANT BLUETOOTH ISSUES, THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE even been in the equation as I was cradled with a USB. I have tried it 6 ways from Sunday on at least 4 or 5 different devices and not fared much better. I am wondering if I brave enough to try to flas my ROM on my TyTN ll to the current version, but do it running Windows XP on my MAC through VMWarefusion (I think it would be easier than trying to do it with Parralells or Boot Camp) but honestly, I haven;t heard from anyone that has ever updated a ROM on Winmobile 5 or 6 device from a MAC. If you have, I would forever be in your debt to know how they did it and how it worked? Cheers, Shogunzero
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I have owned a qtek 9000, an HTC MeTeor, an HTC TyTN ll, and All have been WinMobile 5, smartphones, or WinMobile 6 Professional devices, and I can honestly say, that The Missing sync (on My MacBOOk Pro, OS X 10.5.6), I have had SIGNIFIGANT SYNCING ISSUES, AND SIGNIFANT BLUETOOTH ISSUES, THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE even been in the equation as I was cradled with a USB. I have tried it 6 ways from Sunday on at least 4 or 5 different devices and not fared much better. I am wondering if I brave enough to try to flas my ROM on my TyTN ll to the current version, but do it running Windows XP on my MAC through VMWarefusion (I think it would be easier than trying to do it with Parralells or Boot Camp) but honestly, I haven;t heard from anyone that has ever updated a ROM on Winmobile 5 or 6 device from a MAC. If you have, I would forever be in your debt to know how they did it and how it worked? Cheers, Shogunzero
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It is not possible to flash from the Mac side, Leopard will not run the .exe's.
I have an Intel Imac running Windows XP through Bootcamp. I sync through Active Sync 4,5 to my Windows desktop with never a problem. I have also flashed many roms, radios, and upgrades also, and have never had a problem at all.
Since I run my business off of my Mac. I also need to sync my phone to my Mac side. What problems have you encountered ? Missing sync has been way better than AS for me. Never a problem.
Parallels is crap. Crappy software, crappy company. Bootcamp is way better and free. I can't believe I actually paid for Parallels.
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It is not possible to flash from the Mac side, Leopard will not run the .exe's.
I have an Intel Imac running Windows XP through Bootcamp. I sync through Active Sync 4,5 to my Windows desktop with never a problem. I have also flashed many roms, radios, and upgrades also, and have never had a problem at all.
Since I run my business off of my Mac. I also need to sync my phone to my Mac side. What problems have you encountered ? Missing sync has been way better than AS for me. Never a problem.
Parallels is crap. Crappy software, crappy company. Bootcamp is way better and free. I can't believe I actually paid for Parallels.
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Im sure its possible, as you CAN flash using tty on other devices under Linux. Dont forget, macs come standard with ssh/tty ( as they are Unix ).
Ive not done it on a kaiser yet ( Hardspl allows you to flash via MicroSD which is not only faster but a MUCH MUCH more stable way to do it ) But i remember messing with the roms on my hermes ( goofing with mobile linux ).
Im on a C2D Macbook Pro. I sync using MissingSync. I do ALL flashing by copying the nbh to the MicroSD. This is your safest, fastest, most efficient way of flashing ( Much faster than runing an exe on a windows system ). If you need help on how, shoot me a PM =)
Just a sidenote.....
POF made the HERMflasher and im SURE he has to have something available for the kaiser by now You might try to shoot him a PM to see if he has a source you could compile and port to the kaiser. If it can be done under linux, then more than likely you can do it under BSD Unix
When I asked this question last spring, the general concensus was possible, probably, but the tools weren't there yet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393869
I have never flashed from an SD card before. Just takes ten minutes on the PC in Win XP, never had a hitch, resistant to new ways I guess
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When I asked this question last spring, the general concensus was possible, probably, but the tools weren't there yet. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=393869
I have never flashed from an SD card before. Just takes ten minutes on the PC in Win XP, never had a hitch, resistant to new ways I guess
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Rohit8282 has a mac............. not xp. Simply telling him some useful information. Also, flashing via SD takes at most 5 minutes. There is NO RISK at all involving a data connection disruption OR power failures.
Just more helpful info
The OP was from a year ago, shogunzero searched and picked up this thread. ( yea, a noob who actually searched, good job) He has the same set up as me, running an Intel Mac with a partioned disk , running OSX Leopard on one side and Windows XP on the other side.
Suffice it to say , you cannot run the Kaiser RUU and flash Spl from OSX. Once you have SPL flashed on your phone , you can download custom roms onto OSX and transfer he files to your SD card and flash from your card.
Since I personally spend equal amounts of time on OSX and XP, I just do all my flashing and phone play from XP. Microsoft plays nice with Microsoft (why upset Bill and Steve)
If you are just updating your stock TyNT II rom then you can do it safely from your SDcard, If you want to flash a custom rom you need to initially use XP to flash HardSpl.
It is just as safe.
And if like pyraxiate, your really sweating that extra 5 mins, I just have an extra cup of coffee
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The OP was from a year ago, shogunzero searched and picked up this thread. ( yea, a noob who actually searched, good job) He has the same set up as me, running an Intel Mac with a partioned disk , running OSX Leopard on one side and Windows XP on the other side.
Suffice it to say , you cannot run the Kaiser RUU and flash Spl from OSX. Once you have SPL flashed on your phone , you can download custom roms onto OSX and transfer he files to your SD card and flash from your card.
Since I personally spend equal amounts of time on OSX and XP, I just do all my flashing and phone play from XP. Microsoft plays nice with Microsoft (why upset Bill and Steve)
If you are just updating your stock TyNT II rom then you can do it safely from your SDcard, If you want to flash a custom rom you need to initially use XP to flash HardSpl.
It is just as safe.
And if like pyraxiate, your really sweating that extra 5 mins, I just have an extra cup of coffee
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LOL im with you on the coffee part, but the main reason I flash Via SD is because I flash about once or twice a week, and I keep a folder of roms as well as a folder of radios on the sdcard itself. If im out, I can swap things around at any time ( and because im an on-the-go technician this is a good thing). I can download the roms and install without ever using a computer. Very useful if one doesnt have windows at all
But, im having my cup of coffee now and flashing as we speak ( trying out a PDACorner Rom )
Being a noob at card flashing, you have a card that is just dedicated to roms ? You don't load roms on to your everyday card with music, ringtones and backups, and flash from that do you?
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Being a noob at card flashing, you have a card that is just dedicated to roms ? You don't load roms on to your everyday card with music, ringtones and backups, and flash from that do you?
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I do have multiple cards , but my last 10 flashes have been from my everyday card. I keep a folder inside called flash and inside flash are 3 subfolders ( Roms, Radios, Hard-SPL). I copy all of the nbh files to the appropriate directory path, then rename them to something id recognize like HDIII.nbh, L26M2D.nbh, PDAV14.nbh and for radios use the radio number. when I go to flash, simply copy/paste the rom/radio (HDIII.nbh) to the root of the SD card and rename it to KAISIMG.nbh ( do not cut/paste as you wil want the original later). just reset into botloader and viola there you go. flashing made easy hehe. (all but flashing SPL...thats done a tad differently from sd)
If you have any other questions feel free to ask
PS
I use 2x 8gb card and no issues yet (maybe 1K flashes now haha)
Syncmate
I've just read a review about Syncmate, a free software to sync win mobile devices and Mac Os.
Read on: http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=2577
Ciao, Francesco

Hard Rest/Restore-> ASynch thinks different PC

Title says most of it: I had to do a hard reset. I did a Sprite backup first. I do a restore. But then the ActiveSynch mating thinks it is a different PC from the phone's perspective.
I have been mating to my PC at work (called Laptop) and my Pc at home, (called Windows PC).
It asks me to delete an old one. Somehow during all this I got Windows PC 2 in the list. I delete that, and I specify Laptop for the new one, which is really my original laptop, and I'm hopting to get it hooked to it.
The problem is that I lose all my calendar entries when this thinks it is a different system. Another tidbid of info: I'm sychning through mNOtes to Lotus Notes.
Anyone have an idea of correct method to get my synch setup right?
thanks
I"m really in a bind. I tried even the Google search, and I must not be using right terms.
What I find is that after a restore from Sprite, then when I hook to Activesynch, it thinks it is a new PC. I tried several times now, and can't figure out how to make it use the OLD ORIGINAL partnership. I tried entering LAPTOP as the name, for example, and I end up with multiple LAPTOP configs.
Any ideas what I need to do?
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I"m really in a bind. I tried even the Google search, and I must not be using right terms.
What I find is that after a restore from Sprite, then when I hook to Activesynch, it thinks it is a new PC. I tried several times now, and can't figure out how to make it use the OLD ORIGINAL partnership. I tried entering LAPTOP as the name, for example, and I end up with multiple LAPTOP configs.
Any ideas what I need to do?
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Make sure your device name and owner information is the same on the device?
Thanks. I'm OK there.
I think it has to do with the Activesync partnerships. I think I need to delete them, and re-establish. But I haven't quite got it figured out yet. I've been through several restores. I'm dense tonight.

Transferring files/programs between smartphones?

Hello! I've been using my Tilt since Jan '08 (and an occassional lurker here), and have been loving it except for the heft. Call me a glutton for eye candy, but I pre-ordered the HP iPaq 910 Business Messenger, and received it about 3 days ago. I'd like to transfer most of the programs and files from my Tilt to the HP, but can't figure it out short of swapping out the microSD card.
I've looked over the help section in MS ActiveSync to see if there's a way to synchronize two smartphones w/each other, but nothin' doing. Is there a method to synchronize the programs & files of two smartphones?
Why not jus use bluetooth ? Copy and past to the other devise. Easy i do it with the Tilt to Moto Q
Programs - You can't, need to reinstall them on the new device either from the .cabs or from the PC using activesync.
Files - You can send them using bluetooth, but that's usually 1 by 1. Personally I'd make a folder on the memory card, copy all I want to transfer onto it and then swap it to the new device. But I already have everything on the card anyway.
HP iPaq 910 Business Messenger
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Ouch... that thing is right big and ugly!
Can't imagine why one would change from a Kaiser to that... but to everyone his preferences

**FRIENDS AGAIN** Activesync argument after 8yr friendship

I’ve had the diamond for approx 1 month and regularly sync it to my work and home pc running XP and Vista respectively. Up until now I’ve never had a problem with activesync to any of my past smartphones or PPC’s.
My diamond has all of a sudden decided that it doesn’t want to sync anymore. It connects ok and I can transfer files back and forth it just won’t sync.
I’ve searched the forum and found similar symptoms but nothing has worked.
I’ve deleted the partnership from the device and both pc’s, created new partnerships which on first connection does actually sync (sometimes) but from then on either says “looking for changes” or “synchronising” until it times out giving the error message “Synchronising cannot be completed successfully. Reconnect your device and try again. If the problem persists, see the Microsoft Activesync Troubleshooter in Microsoft Help on your desktop computer”
I’ve tried the help, I’ve let it do its own diagnostic, I’ve unchecked the “enable advanced network functionality” option in USB to PC. I’ve soft reset, hard reset, the only thing I haven’t done is re-flash a new rom.
Does anybody know if flashing a new rom/radio will solve the problem. I would normally just try it but I spent an hour yesterday after I hard reset putting everything back to the way I like it only to find that it synced the first time but wouldn’t work again.
If anyone has any other suggestions before a re-flash I would welcome them. Otherwise I’ll bite the bullet and hope for the best.
I’m currently running Duttys V1.6 Radio version 1.00.25.07
I Had this problem
Hey fella, i was having this problem and after doing a little research i found the following.. If you constantly activate and deactivate the mobile (pair and unpair) you can corrupt A/S on the system. The only way i got around this was to uninstall active sync and re-install it again.
Hope this helps...!
I've never been able to get activesync to work harmoniously between relationships with two PCs.
Most syncs with a second machine after successful syncs with a first tend to result in errors that require my intervention, especially if an item of data has been changed. Drives me mad sometimes, and I often need to spend more time fixing these errors than it would take to manually update stuff across my three devices. I get the feeling the comparison/processing engine activesync uses is no where near sophisticated or clever enough to carry out the processing, and when it does have errors, the scope for my intervention to help it in its quandary are fairly hopeless.
I'm hoping that as devices like the diamond bring this lets face, it fundamentally great, but nevertheless fundamentally flawed platform to the masses, then Microsoft will have to put more effort into activesync and how it copes with relationships across two (or perhaps even more in future) PCs.
Ps, neomagik, actual connection, which sometimes has hiccups, has never been a big problem for me, (a few minutes in the various settings usually sorts these), but I've been using activesync for about 4 years before my diamond with with my HP4700 and various double PC partnerships along the way, and can confidently say that the problems I describe are not device related, but are the result of activesync inadequacies.
Thanks fyew-jit-tiv but I've tried that already. Also, it wont sync to WMDC in Vista either and it's unlikely that the same fault occured in AS and WMDC at the same time. This is what leads me to believe it's the Diamond and not the PC's.
Been there, done that....
Suprised you've not had this issue earlier...I've been suffering with Activesync issues for years
There are lots of ways to diagnose and resolve but perhaps you just might want to get the sledgehammer out...this mostly works for me....(I hope your familiar with Outlook!)
On one PC (I would use the XP "older" Op system one) export your synced data from Outlook to a .pst or .ost file for backup and later import (after delete & tidy stuff you no longer need in Calander/Contacts/Tasks, etc)
then
Delete all your data in Outlook, create a new empty .pst (connect to same), delete old .pst
then
delete partnership with device (to be sure), and remove same data (Contacts/Calander etc) from device
then
You can then check the exported/saved .pst for errors (I can't remember the MS programme...google for it), once satisifed OK import all you info back into Outlook
then
Synchronise with new partnership to device.
Hopefully so far so good
(sometimes I even rename the device-partnersip etc in case something "residual" there stays behind and corrupts something )
Next
Prior to connecting device with WORK PC:
Delete all previously synced data in Outlook and delete partnership there. I then make sure that in Activesync (before establishing new partnership) that I click option for one way data transfer ie replace items on computer with those from device
then
...plug in and establish new partnership, hopefully no problems....data populates computer from device. Once established then put back how you prefer data to be transfered (if there is a conflict etc)
Return home and partnership there still synchronised, Hopefully this works
If you find that there are still issues, you can un-Check and Check each synced area (Contacts, Calander, Tasks, Synced Files) independently to see where the conflict is.....
...I have found conflicts mostly occur with:
i) Calander: Birthdays/Anniversarys (probably as they are extended recurring events)
ii) Calnder: Meetings etc that might be recurring
There are real issues if using old versions of Outlook (2000 for me at work ) syncing with most recent ones!!
Sorry for the mad typing but best I can do for a "Quick" reply....Good luck !!
Studz, I know what you mean, I often get errors where it asks you to "resolve item" and after a while of playing it usually works. This is different, it won't sync at all.
neomagik said:
Studz, I know what you mean, I often get errors where it asks you to "resolve item" and after a while of playing it usually works. This is different, it won't sync at all.
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Presume you have done the most obvious, and that is un-install and re-install Activesync and the Vista sync programme on both PC's ?
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Studz, I know what you mean, I often get errors where it asks you to "resolve item" and after a while of playing it usually works. This is different, it won't sync at all.
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I had this once I think a year or so back. Tried so many things that I can't remember what finally fixed it.
I think a good place to start though, like PJ6363 says, is do a clean sweep... re-install activesync on both machines, and I would also reinitialise your Outlook Account (.pst) on the master PC and delete on all other devices.
Good luck, and tell us how you get on.
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Thanks fyew-jit-tiv but I've tried that already. Also, it wont sync to WMDC in Vista either and it's unlikely that the same fault occured in AS and WMDC at the same time. This is what leads me to believe it's the Diamond and not the PC's.[/QUOT
Neomagik... Sorry i could help any further fella.. As i said in last post i had this problem and i just re-installed A/S... The only other thing i done after i un-installed A/S was to run a registry cleaner.!
P.s i don't think is down to the Diamond. I Was having this problem with the Touch (elf) too...
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well, i have similar issue w/ sync and finally, i solved the problem by changing the sync cable.
Thanks folks,
I'm going to try all of these.
@ Snufkin, I'm using two different sync cables so I know this is not the problem.
My diamond did funny things when the screen would turn off quickly after connecting because i set it not to charge when connected. Gave all sorts of weird errors.
Now, screen stays on because i want it to charge and sync completes now, still takes a while though.
You guys are aware that WM6.1 has a problem syncing with 2 computers, aren't you?
Some people claim they managed to do it and I believe them, only none of the voodoo worked for me. Never had that problem with WM5 and 6.
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You guys are aware that WM6.1 has a problem syncing with 2 computers, aren't you?
Some people claim they managed to do it and I believe them, only none of the voodoo worked for me. Never had that problem with WM5 and 6.
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there is a long thread about this issue somewhere conclusion 100% in wm 6.1 you can not sync with 2 PC. this is a wm 6.1. related problem.
i can sync with 2 pC my athena with wm 6 but i can not do it with the diamond or trinity. don't even try it. it will mes you the whole outlook!
Sync with WM6.1....off course u can!
Been syncing my Kaiser and now Diamond with WM6.1 for well over a year with 2 PC's. Must have done it at least 20 times with various devices and ROM's. Kicker is that my work has W2000 & O2000, and at home I use XP and O2007....still works!!
I'm not saying I don't occasionally have issues...but I do carry more than 1000 contacts and and extended calander with numerous recurring entries
.....like I've posted before (as many others) there are issues, but nothing insurmountable. I'd be lost if I could not sync my work PC, homw PC and PDA
Read around and you'll see........
here u are, i found the thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377823
i tried long and hard to sync my diamond with 2 pc. all i got is errors and double tasks and appointments. got tired and gave up! my contacts list is too precious to play with!. i do have over 600 contacts and 1300 numbers (tlf, mobile, fax).
in order to have my diamond sync with 2 pc i syinc it with one, then i sync my athena and sync with the second....lol...this is my way to have 2 pc and 2 htc devices in sync.
I had my Diamond (and previous Trinity) synced with 2 pc's. No major problems until now.
It's dead
OK, I have tried the steps suggested by PJ6363 with no success. It won’t sync to the first pc let alone the second.
I then decided to dig out the old C500. After blowing the dust off I hard reset to clear out any info left on it. Plugged it in and hey presto, immediate sync. Unplugged it and tried again, another sync. Added a contact whilst synced and it updated straight away.
I then deleted all partnerships on pc and diamond and plugged it in. It went through the usual setup and connected to the device as before but surprise surprise, no sync.
Does this not mean that the data on the PC is fine and it is a problem with the Diamond, possibly a hardware problem?
Unless anyone else can suggest anything I’m going to flash a new rom but I have a strong suspicion it will not make a difference.
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OK, I have tried the steps suggested by PJ6363 with no success. It won’t sync to the first pc let alone the second.
I then decided to dig out the old C500. After blowing the dust off I hard reset to clear out any info left on it. Plugged it in and hey presto, immediate sync. Unplugged it and tried again, another sync. Added a contact whilst synced and it updated straight away.
I then deleted all partnerships on pc and diamond and plugged it in. It went through the usual setup and connected to the device as before but surprise surprise, no sync.
Does this not mean that the data on the PC is fine and it is a problem with the Diamond, possibly a hardware problem?
Unless anyone else can suggest anything I’m going to flash a new rom but I have a strong suspicion it will not make a difference.
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It looks like something other than what I have been pointing out....see here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377823
I think you need to get serious and re-install the actual software itself on the device (hard reset), appears that Activesync on PC's is good...but would re-install there anyway!!
Look at it this way, you have found a sweet excuse to update your ROM withthe latest version and clean up your contacts/calander etc....should not be an issue with a fresh ROM install (try SwiftB 6.0....excellent!!)...let us know how you get on
Ah ha....forgot something critical...if you are syncing using older version of Windows (2000) or Outlook ...or any issues syncing for that matter, then I found that you MUST go to Settings->Connections->USB to PC and turn off Enable Advanced Network Functionality...have you done this?

Active Sync/USb disconnecting on regular basis

Hi All,
I have a strange problem with my Tilt. Whenever I connect my Tilt to my PC using USB cable, it gets disconnected regularly. I have to unplug and replug the USB cable to get the ActiveSync working.
I am using windows 6.1 ATT official ROM. I tried multiple cables and multiple PCs and same issue is there.
Does anyone having any clue or similar problem and solution for this.
Thanks in advance
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Check the pings in the mini usb port to make sure they aren't bent.
It's possible that you have a program causing it, use a task manager to turn them off if you can.
I already checks all the strips(pings) in the mini usb....and mini usb cable also....
How do I identify if some program is causing it?
I have the following program running on my tilt
MobileShell.exe
device.exe
filesys.exe
voicecmd.exe
gwes.exe
cprog.exe
s2u2.exe
shell32.exe
services.exe
quickGPS.exe
repllog.exe
connmgr.exe
taskMge.exe
iLock2.exe
HTCIMSSvc.exe
AutoUpdate.exe
poutlook.exe
NK.exe
use task manager to turn them off one by one or in groups.
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I have to unplug and replug the USB cable to get the ActiveSync working.
I am using windows 6.1 ATT official ROM. I tried multiple cables and multiple PCs and same issue is there.
Does anyone having any clue or similar problem and solution for this.
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In the early days of my owning a TyTN II (HTC not AT&T Branded), I had this issue occuring often with my old PCs (via chipset USB 1.1 motherboards). Since updating the USB capability by addidng a decent NEC chipset based USB 2.0 PCI card, the connectivity problems vanished. Now I'm using an Intel DG45ID with USB 2.0 built in, the problem has never re-occurred. What are the ages / chipsets of these 'multiple PCs'? Have you tried connecting the Tilt to a newish PC?
I have a laptop not older than 2 years and it has intel 945 based chipset (which definetly support USB 2.0) and another PC on which I have tried also has 945 based chipset.
I think you are right, the issue is the USB ports. one of them showing an error when I pluging anything into this and I think other are not working properly too in my laptop but they are not showing an error.
However I tried different (other than I used) USB port in my Desktop and I do not see the issue.
Thanks for your help. We got the root cause but I dont know how to fix it in my laptop maybe usb port got the dust on it.
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[email protected] said:
We got the root cause but I dont know how to fix it in my laptop maybe usb port got the dust on it.
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Those Intel 945 chipsets should definitely be able to cope with the USB demand alright. In time after installing lots of different USB devices through a given USB port, remnants of past driver associations etc can remain and it's often a good idea every now and again to perform a 'from the ground up' format and reinstal. If you have a recovery CDROM from the Laptop manufacturer (preumably this is what you're using as your main PC), then this will simplify things tremendously. Just make sure you back up all your important data before you commence the recovery operation.
I dont want to restart every thing I have lots of software and thing which will take ample of my time.
I am using Vista home premium, is there any way to clean up the driver related stuff.
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I dont want to restart every thing I have lots of software and thing which will take ample of my time.
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I do understand as I've worked in IT in the past. You may find however that a restore/reinstall from scratch is the quickest way rather than going through looking for remnanats of files and unused registry entries to clear out. Its always a good idea to format your PCs HDD every so often anyway and usually the performance boost that comes with an efficient 'how it was meant to be' setup, helps to compensate for the time and effort it takes.
I am using Vista home premium, is there any way to clean up the driver related stuff.
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You could try using system recovery (I presume thats in Vista Home Premium, I don't have Vista myself), but I don't have much faith in such inbuilt recovery options. It'd also mean you need to know when to recover back to - the $64,000 question. You could also try uninstalling all the USB related things in device manager (with all USB devices unplugged at the time of course) and on restarting, the PC should pick them all up again (have your driver CDROMs on hand in case it doesn't). Personally, I'd just back up my data, get my software installation CDROMs ready and perform a full laptop system recovery using the manufacturers CDROM.
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I do understand as I've worked in IT in the past. You may find however that a restore/reinstall from scratch is the quickest way rather than going through looking for remnanats of files and unused registry entries to clear out. Its always a good idea to format your PCs HDD every so often anyway and usually the performance boost that comes with an efficient 'how it was meant to be' setup, helps to compensate for the time and effort it takes.
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I understand......I will do the same when I'll get the time.
Thank You
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Those Intel 945 chipsets should definitely be able to cope with the USB demand alright. In time after installing lots of different USB devices through a given USB port, remnants of past driver associations etc can remain and it's often a good idea every now and again to perform a 'from the ground up' format and reinstal. If you have a recovery CDROM from the Laptop manufacturer (preumably this is what you're using as your main PC), then this will simplify things tremendously. Just make sure you back up all your important data before you commence the recovery operation.
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That should be the very last bit of advise to give out, and really I think thats very very bad advice.. Ah infact he claims that it happens on more then one computer, so it's a problem with the phone. I'm sure the "remnants" of drivers don't stay in the cable..
I tried multiple cables and multiple PCs and same issue is there.
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Did you ever kill those programs running in the background? Have you reset the phone, sheesh make sure to do that before wiping your computer. Very bad advice!!
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Did you ever kill those programs running in the background? Have you reset the phone, sheesh make sure to do that before wiping your computer. Very bad advice!!
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No I haven't, however I too feel that it is the problem of the USB port or cable. I again tried on my desktop (with XP) on different ports (on board earliar I was trying with the front side USB ports) and seems to be fine, not showing and disconnecting issue. I do not know why there is a difference in usb ports.
My laptop with Vista still having an issue. One of the port even showing an error when I try to connect it.
It seems that the safe bet when syncing is to use XP.. I know that with notebooks the USB ports can be flakey because of power issues but that shouldn't be a big deal with a desktop.. Try your XP desktop and hopefully you'll have some good luck.
I'd like to say I've had this problem before, but I don't remember what I did to fix it.
I agree - well, with one point anyway
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Have you reset the phone
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That's a good idea to try as well, a combination of both will almost certainly fix things. I guess my personal experience with this and the cause having been USB port related on the PCs (both with older VIA chipsets) led me in the direction of the PCs USB ports and everything surrounding them. You hit the nail on the head with with your comments about power issues on ports. I remember that one of the things which tended to bring on a disconnect in my last VIA chipset board was starting the TV Tuner up - the extra power consumed by the tuner put the rest of the chipset into a position where it simply couldn't cope with what Activesync was asking of it and the problem was 100% repeatable. I also found with that setup that I needed to disable Advanced Networking functionality on the phone or it wouldn't connect at all - although that didn't cause unreliable connections, it simply wouldn't connect with Advanced Networking Capability enabled. The newer USB port adapter card resolved all of these issues.
If [email protected] has lots of software installed on the PC, there may be lots on the phone as well so if thats the case, it'll mean a little work reinstalling cabs and reconfiguring there as well but I'm all for occasional cleanouts for restoring reliability and performance - the difference is often like night and day. Thanks for the additional positive idea among all the negatives.
Not able to connect to internet with Active sync
I don't know what is happening......now I am facing new issue.
I am able to connect to internet by Active sync on my vista laptop but its not working on XP desktop.
I have default connections in connection setting and I manually added for my ISP(Airtel).
I already tried deleting and resetting the sync settings, tried different setting on XP(Active Sync) but no use. Its working fine with Vista (WMDC).
Any help would be gratful.
Thanks.
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I am able to connect to internet by Active sync on my vista laptop but its not working on XP desktop.
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I'm not sure what you want to connect to the internet - is it so you can have your Kaiser use your desktop PCs internet connection (what I suspect is the case) or the other way around (in which case internet connection sharing would come into play)?
I have default connections in connection setting and I manually added for my ISP(Airtel).
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If the problem is the former above, try changing the 'Automatic' in the Desktop Activesync 'This computer is connected to' section to 'The internet'. I had a WM 6.1 HTC ROM on my Kaiser for a while and this was the only way I could get it to connect (the WM 6.0 ROM works fine in this regard under Automatic). Not sure what you mean by manually added Airtel though. If thats also your landline ISP, I've never experienced a need to configure down to the level of specifying the ISPs name. The only ISP where names come into it in my experience is the one the phone is connected to over the air as the network of choice (Airtel going by your profile) and that should be fully set up using the HTC Configuration Wizard built into HTC TyTN II ROMs automatically a short while after it connects to the network for the first time (or after a hard reset). Is this not happening for you?
I already tried deleting and resetting the sync settings, tried different setting on XP(Active Sync) but no use. Its working fine with Vista (WMDC).
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If you've tried the above config change in the XP machines Activesync settings, you could always try uninstalling and reinstalling Activesync 4.5 after you've backed up important data from the phone.
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I'm not sure what you want to connect to the internet - is it so you can have your Kaiser use your desktop PCs internet connection (what I suspect is the case) or the other way around (in which case internet connection sharing would come into play)?
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Yes, I am talking about the former one.
If the problem is the former above, try changing the 'Automatic' in the Desktop Activesync 'This computer is connected to' section to 'The internet'. I had a WM 6.1 HTC ROM on my Kaiser for a while and this was the only way I could get it to connect (the WM 6.0 ROM works fine in this regard under Automatic).
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Tried but no use. Still not able to update the weather and access the internet by opera/IE mobile.
Not sure what you mean by manually added Airtel though. If thats also your landline ISP, I've never experienced a need to configure down to the level of specifying the ISPs name. The only ISP where names come into it in my experience is the one the phone is connected to over the air as the network of choice (Airtel going by your profile) and that should be fully set up using the HTC Configuration Wizard built into HTC TyTN II ROMs automatically a short while after it connects to the network for the first time (or after a hard reset). Is this not happening for you?
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No, I have to manually add the configuration to connect to my ISP(Airtel) over the air (Edge). I know this nothing to do with active sync but I mentioned it here for the sake of the information.
If you've tried the above config change in the XP machines Activesync settings, you could always try uninstalling and reinstalling Activesync 4.5 after you've backed up important data from the phone.
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I tried this too, still no success.
Any other suggestion would be grateful.
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I tried this too, still no success.
Any other suggestion would be grateful.
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Try disabling or removing any software firewall on the XP machine if it has any? Is the phone in the same state when you connect it via WMDC and this works as when you attempt the same through Activesync 4.5 and it doesn't? Did you end up doing the hard reset suggested?
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Try disabling or removing any software firewall on the XP machine if it has any?
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I have AVG 8.5 free Edition, but I dont think AVG firewall is creating any problem as I have access internet in tha past using the same machine. Anyways I will check it out.
Is the phone in the same state when you connect it via WMDC and this works as when you attempt the same through Activesync 4.5 and it doesn't?
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yes.
Did you end up doing the hard reset suggested?
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I will not do this as it time consuming to setup all the things.

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